Gay Priests, Pastors, Reverends, Ministers, why not?

[Michael Christ]

Apparently, all of Christendom concedes that all their congregants
remain continuing sinners, so why not have gay clergy?

What difference does it make? Isn't it abuse to allow a straight sinner
to mistreat a gay sinner?

Is there a difference between one continuing sinner who sins and another
continuing sinner who sins?

Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive and well in sinner Christianity.





Michael Christ

--
God is God

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

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Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

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is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

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hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

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still according to my power," says the Lord.

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 What a gift in a fallen world!"

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that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
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and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
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"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

[James]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 05:02:12 +1100, Michael Christ
<michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:

>Apparently, all of Christendom concedes that all their congregants
>remain continuing sinners, so why not have gay clergy?
>
>What difference does it make? Isn't it abuse to allow a straight sinner
>to mistreat a gay sinner?
>
>Is there a difference between one continuing sinner who sins and another
>continuing sinner who sins?
>
>Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive and well in sinner Christianity.

So then, does God accept the gay lifestyle?

Sincerely James
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2/11/2024



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>Michael Christ

[Michael Christ]

On 12/02/2024 5:55 am, James wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 05:02:12 +1100, Michael Christ
> <michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Apparently, all of Christendom concedes that all their congregants
>> remain continuing sinners, so why not have gay clergy?
>>
>> What difference does it make? Isn't it abuse to allow a straight sinner
>> to mistreat a gay sinner?
>>
>> Is there a difference between one continuing sinner who sins and another
>> continuing sinner who sins?
>>
>> Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive and well in sinner Christianity.
>

Sinner Hypocrisy and Bigotry James wrote:
> So then, does God accept the gay lifestyle?

Please stop trying to sell the lie that your life is based on what God
accepts; it is based on sin, Sinful James.

So, why would a sinner judge another sinner as being a sinner?

"Isn't it abuse to allow a straight sinner to mistreat a gay sinner?

Is there a difference between one continuing sinner who sins and another
continuing sinner who sins?"

[Michael Christ]

On 12/02/2024 6:18 am, Jaye Elke wrote:

> James wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 05:02:12 +1100, Michael Christ
>> <michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently, all of Christendom concedes that all their congregants
>>> remain continuing sinners, so why not have gay clergy?
>>>
>>> What difference does it make? Isn't it abuse to allow a straight
>>> sinner to mistreat a gay sinner?
>>>
>>> Is there a difference between one continuing sinner who sins and
>>> another continuing sinner who sins?
>>>
>>> Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive and well in sinner
>>> Christianity.
>>
>> So then, does God accept the gay lifestyle?
>>
>
>

> Yes. Jesus was gay, and God Himself reveals advocacy of homosexuality
> in the OT. Read Keith Sharpe's The Gay Gospels.

I looked at that book recently.

It is pure crap.

All it does is channel personal sexual preference by massaging words and
meanings.

Typical of sinner Christianity.

[Jack Sovalot]

Michael Christ wrote:

> On 12/02/2024 6:18 am, Jaye Elke wrote:
> > James wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 05:02:12 +1100, Michael Christ
> >><michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Apparently, all of Christendom concedes that all their
> > > > congregants remain continuing sinners, so why not have gay
> > > > clergy?
> > > >
> > > > What difference does it make? Isn't it abuse to allow a straight
> > > > sinner to mistreat a gay sinner?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a difference between one continuing sinner who sins and
> > > > another continuing sinner who sins?
> > > >
> > > > Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive and well in sinner
> > > > Christianity.
> > >
> > > So then, does God accept the gay lifestyle?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Yes. Jesus was gay, and God Himself reveals advocacy of
> > homosexuality in the OT. Read Keith Sharpe's The Gay Gospels.
>
> I looked at that book recently.
>
> It is pure crap.
>
> All it does is channel personal sexual preference by massaging words
> and meanings.
>
> Typical of sinner Christianity.
>
>
>
> Michael Christ

I don't know of anybody who takes that book seriously.

[Michael Christ]

Ted wrote:
> I don't know of anybody who takes that book seriously.

Except me. :-).

We disagree on many things about it, but it doesn't seem to matter with
you. And the reason might surprise you. It is because you are the
closest thing to a pure atheist here. Whereas, people like Holman, JWS,
Dawny Poo, Mycock, Tim, and even Kevrob and others are mere pretenders
and are not atheists at all.

However, ironically, the greatest pretenders of all are the sinner
Christians, so they attract from me, let us say, the most "distaste."

And so it was 2000 years ago.

[Jack Sovalot]

Nice of you to say, MX, thanks, although I don't really consider myself
to be an atheist (despite Christopher Lee's insistence that I was). One
of the things I like about you is that I agree with most of your sig
(from a Christian perspective). And I'd never before met any other
Christian whose thoughts were so similar to mine back when I was a
christer.

>
> However, ironically, the greatest pretenders of all are the sinner
> Christians, so they attract from me, let us say, the most "distaste."
>
> And so it was 2000 years ago.
>

Quite true.

> Michael Christ

[Michael Christ]

I wouldn't agree with Lee if my ass was on fire, except in this
instance. Being an unbeliever (AKA an atheist) has nothing to do with
words, terminology, or even thoughts; it is a heart decision to reject Him.

However, what bothers God a hell of a lot more is a person who likes to
try and sit in a middle ground (e.g., lukewarm). All these pretend
atheists sit in the middle ground. Take someone like Bertrand Russell.
When he was asked if he found out when he died that there was a God,
what would he say to Him? "There wasn't enough proof." Therefore, he's
entertaining the option.

Middle ground, in other words. As with Hitchens (dead), Dawkins, etc.,
Sam Harris is a little more far left than them but still the same. By
the way, even Erhman is middle ground.

Also, Timmy the faggot is definitely middle ground. :-).

You are not middle ground, though.

> One
> of the things I like about you is that I agree with most of your sig
> (from a Christian perspective). And I'd never before met any other
> Christian whose thoughts were so similar to mine back when I was a
> christer.

Why didn't you go on then, because God would have taken you through and
out of the religion shit, like me?

What stopped you?

I am intrigued because I often wonder why people do not choose God? Most
people think that if they reject God that it makes Him angry; it does
not. He gave people a choice, and what, if they do not choose Him He
stamps around like a spoilt schoolboy that doesn't get His way? No, a
free choice is a free choice.

Hence...

Rev_3:16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I
will spue thee out of my mouth.

That is why the Lord Jesus was so pissed off with the Pharisees
(lukewarm), but the prostitutes and the tax collectors, well, He ate and
drank with them and probably had a scotch or two.

Guess where the sinner Christians sit. :-).





Michael Christ

>
>>
>> However, ironically, the greatest pretenders of all are the sinner
>> Christians, so they attract from me, let us say, the most "distaste."
>>
>> And so it was 2000 years ago.
>>
>
>
> Quite true.
>
>> Michael Christ
>

[Ted]

Thanks MX.

>
> > One
> > of the things I like about you is that I agree with most of your sig
> > (from a Christian perspective). And I'd never before met any other
> > Christian whose thoughts were so similar to mine back when I was a
> > christer.
>
> Why didn't you go on then, because God would have taken you through
> and out of the religion shit, like me?
>
> What stopped you?
>
> I am intrigued because I often wonder why people do not choose God?
> Most people think that if they reject God that it makes Him angry; it
> does not. He gave people a choice, and what, if they do not choose
> Him He stamps around like a spoilt schoolboy that doesn't get His
> way? No, a free choice is a free choice.

Of course God isn't a petty little shit who gets pist at people who
don't believe in him. But somehow, that's what they seem to think.

>
> Hence...
>
> Rev_3:16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor
> hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
>
> That is why the Lord Jesus was so pissed off with the Pharisees
> (lukewarm), but the prostitutes and the tax collectors, well, He ate
> and drank with them and probably had a scotch or two.
>
> Guess where the sinner Christians sit. :-).
>

Yes. As it was 2000 years ago.


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> Michael Christ
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Thanks MX.

[Michael Christ]

So, in terms of logic, just plain reality (non-emotional), I understand
fully why you would turn your back on the asshole sinner Xtian
religionist Pharisees, the pretenders of righteousness with bibles in
their hands, but why did you turn your back on God?

I will respect your answer, as I am sure you know by now, but can you or
do you have an answer?

through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

[Ted]

At first it was because I finally came to realize that God gives every
indication of being a despicable prick. But I've also long understood
that there isn't much we can say about God because we're so
infinitesimally insignificant in comparison. So I can't be an atheist.
But I also soon undersood that Yahweh was just made up. And that Jesus
was just a fellow who got himself killed a long time ago.

[Michael Christ]

Well, as far as I am concerned, atheists don't exist anyway, but I do
use the term in a contemporary sense. I am saying that I could use the
word "gay" to mean what it really means, but I go along with the
consensus meaning as the means of relating to people in the place where
they are.

Y'know, when in Rome.

> But I also soon undersood that Yahweh was just made up. And that Jesus
> was just a fellow who got himself killed a long time ago.

Okay. It is tempting to go on but I'll leave it there.

Cheers.

[Ted]

Is it okay if I email you?