Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
AirRaid
uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
Barack Obama is very good looking, charming, extremely charismatic. he
seems so "good", unlike bill clinton.
he seems highly, highly intelligent, more so than any politition i've
ever seen. i am not everything about him fits the expected profile of
the antichrist, but what if some of those expectations are wrong?
most teachings on the anti-christ say he will come out of the european
union, the revived 'holy' roman empire, which could be the western
roman empire or the eastern roman empire, perhaps even the middle east
or the soviet union / russia. but almost nobody thinks the anti-
christ will come out of america.
Obama bothers me. not because he's black, or half-black. but
because he seems too 'perfect'.
Obama never mentioned anything about doing away with the Real ID Act,
which will force all American's to recieve a National ID Card, which
many prophecy teachers think is a major stepping stone to the mark of
the beast.
without the National ID Card, nobody will be able to hold a job, use
public transportation, have a bank account, etc.
how much buying & selling will we do if the National ID Card (or
whatever it will be called) is implemented ?
again, that guy bothers me.
leush...@gmail.com
> alt.fan.jesus-christ, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
> uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
>
> Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
>
> Barack Obama is very good looking, charming, extremely charismatic. he
> seems so "good", unlike bill clinton.
> he seems highly, highly intelligent, more so than any politition i've
> ever seen. i am not everything about him fits the expected profile of
> the antichrist, but what if some of those expectations are wrong?
>
> most teachings on the anti-christ say he will come out of the european
> union, the revived 'holy' roman empire, which could be the western
> roman empire or the eastern roman empire, perhaps even the middle east
> or the soviet union / russia. but almost nobody thinks the anti-
> christ will come out of america.
>
> Obama bothers me. not because he's black, or half-black. but
ago and during one segment, he bent down to retrieve a fallen paper
when I saw 666 in his scalp as his hair parted. I could hardly believe
my eyes, but there it was as clear as day. He quickly stood back up
and it took me a while to compose myself. Then I began wondering, "Did
I really see what I think I saw?" We must be careful and keep our eyes
on him!
AirRaid
wrote:
I found this to be extremely interesting:
http://www.fromthelighthouse.com/blog/index.php?p=414&more=1&c=1
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The Spirituality of Barak Obama and Rick Warren
Barak Obama, the Senator who recently spoke at Saddleback Church, drew
criticism from many Christians because of his pro-abortion beliefs.
Rick
Warren defended his move to include Obama at the AIDS convention, and
while at first glance, it may look like the two men are at opposite
ends
of the pole when it comes to spiritual beliefs, in actuality, they
have
quite a bit in common.
In an article in United Church News, Obama stated that the teachings
of
the UCC (United Church of Christ), of which he is a member (Trinity
United
Church of Christ), are "foundation stones for his political work."
Just
what are those "teachings" comprised of? On Trinity's website, on the
Yoga
page, the following statement is highlighted:
Within each [of]us is the seed of Divinity. Each Soul is divine. I bow
to
the divinity in us all!
That is the spirituality of Thomas Merton! You may be asking right
now,
"How is this kind of affinity to yoga and panentheism similar to Rick
Warren's beliefs? After all, he's evangelical! Right." But Rick Warren
has
been and continues to promote Thomas Merton's contemplative
spirituality,
which has the same premise as that of yoga and panentheism - it's just
that what he promotes is disguised in Christian terminology so people
are
fooled.
It is interesting to note that on the Trinity Church of Christ
website, it
states: Rick Warren is "brilliant at explaining our real purpose on
earth."
Such a statement clearly shows that Obama's spiritual leaders at
Trinity
resonate with Rick Warren.
The United Church of Christ basically is an ultra liberal Christian
denomination that has focused on social justice and making the world
into
a better place. But in the process of their all emcompassing view that
anything positive is spiritually sound, many leaders within this group
have embraced or incorporated the teachings and practices of occultism
and
eastern religion. One such individual is Bruce Epperly, a United
Church of
Christ pastor, who wrote a book called Reiki Healing Touch and the Way
of
Jesus, in which Epperly says: We can utilize the practice of Reiki to
transform families, relationships, meetings, and institutions." Reiki,
as
you know, is drawn from Tibetan Buddhism and incorporates spirit
guides
and psychic powers. It is extremely likely that Obama has been exposed
to
things such as yoga or reiki.
Rick Warren and Barak Obama also share views on global peace and
world-wide unification. Obama, who was a speaker at the "Pentecost
2006:
Building a Covenant for a New America" conference, used "the speech as
a
call for continued dialogue and bridge-building between religious
conservatives and progressives." This "bridge-building" is the same
kind
of talk Rick Warren uses when he is discussing his "new reformation"
that
will include all religions, in which he states that he will do
"whatever
it takes" to accomplish it in his lifetime.
In Obama's address at Pentecost 2006, he talked about the "connection
between religion and politics." That is what Rick Warren talks about
with
his "three-legged stool" philosophy that government, religion and
business
have to work together if global peace is every going to happen. Herein
lies
another similiarity between Obama and Warren.
When New Ager and meditation promoter Marianne Williamson came to Rick
Warren's defense recently, she knew he shared the same vision as she.
That
vision, which is also Obama's, will eventually attempt to eliminate
opposition to this mystical-based new reformation. They will believe
they
have to in order for it to work.
We mustn't be fooled into thinking that Rick Warren is on a different
page
than Obama, just because their views on abortion differ. They have
found a
common ground, and it is one that is sinking sand.
no...@noway.com
wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
>On 10 Feb 2007 17:12:33 -0800, "AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
>can be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>alt.fan.jesus-christ, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
>>uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
>>
>>Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
>>
>>Barack Obama is very good looking, charming, extremely charismatic. he
>>seems so "good", unlike bill clinton.
>>he seems highly, highly intelligent, more so than any politition i've
>>ever seen. i am not everything about him fits the expected profile of
>>the antichrist, but what if some of those expectations are wrong?
>
>The anti-Christ-- the model we have from scripture-- MUST be a
>European-born JEW!!
>
>(no slam on my beloved / God's beloved Jews implied or intended)
>
>The anti-Christ-- the model we have from scripture-- MUST be a
>European-born JEW!!
>
>That is an absolute MUST!
>
>Why MUST he be a Jew?
>
>(stupid question) Was Jesus Jewish?
>YES! Who did Jesus come to redeem?
>FIRST and FOREMOST, Jesus came to redeem The House of Israel.
>
>The JEWS!
>
>So the FALSE Christ must ALSO be of the House of Israel.
>
>More specifically, Jesus was of the House of DAVID (the House of the
>KINGS)
>
>The anti-Christ MUST be Jewish, AND he must convince the Jews that he
>is of the lineage of David.
>
>That is -- SUPPOSEDLY -- that the anti-Christ is to come from the
>same Kingly line as Christ came.
>
I wasn't going to reply to this because the writing style was too much
like Bible John's, but I will reply to your comments:
Several flaws in your reasoning. First off, no-where is the Beast of
Revelation called the "anti-christ." Even though John is the only NT
author who used the term, "antichrist," he did not use it of the
Beast.
And John tells is that there were many "anti christs" even in his
time, is also identified by John as a former believer.
The word itself, in Greek, the prefix, "anti" means both "against" and
also "instead of." It carries the same idea of the "false christs"
that Jesus used in Matthew.
As to the Beast, it is the same endtime government depicted in
Daniel's vision. Essentially it is the endtime representation of the
Roman Empire which is depicted as two legs of clay and iron
(representing both strength and weakness). The two legs represent the
split Roman Empire with captials in Rome and Constantinople
(Istanbul). Ten toes, 10 is used in Scripture as a form of
completeness and also signifies that, by the time of the end, it is
geographically more seperated. The decendents of the Roman Empire now
reside throughout Europe, the Middle East, Africa and the other foot
is in the Americas. The ten toes also suggest two groups of nations.
The Beast then, is the leader of these nations, although the 10 toes
and the iron and clay suggest that he isn't an all powerful leader.
Logically, the Beast is the "leader of the free world," whomever he
may be at the time.
Terrell
Terrell
http://www.songbookz.com
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
bob young
AirRaid wrote:
> alt.fan.jesus-christ, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
> uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
>
> Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
I imagine just about as possible as you getting an ounce of brain
bob young
"leush...@gmail.com" wrote:
> On Feb 10, 5:12 pm, "AirRaid" <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > alt.fan.jesus-christ, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
> > uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
> >
> > Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
> >
> > Barack Obama is very good looking, charming, extremely charismatic. he
> > seems so "good", unlike bill clinton.
> > he seems highly, highly intelligent, more so than any politition i've
> > ever seen. i am not everything about him fits the expected profile of
> > the antichrist, but what if some of those expectations are wrong?
> >
> > most teachings on the anti-christ say he will come out of the european
> > union, the revived 'holy' roman empire, which could be the western
> > roman empire or the eastern roman empire, perhaps even the middle east
> > or the soviet union / russia. but almost nobody thinks the anti-
> > christ will come out of america.
> >
> > Obama bothers me. not because he's black, or half-black. but
> He is definitely the Anti-Christ. I saw him in an interview not long
> ago and during one segment, he bent down to retrieve a fallen paper
> when I saw 666 in his scalp as his hair parted. I could hardly believe
> my eyes, but there it was as clear as day. He quickly stood back up
> and it took me a while to compose myself. Then I began wondering, "Did
> I really see what I think I saw?" We must be careful and keep our eyes
> on him!
Keep your eyes on your Shrink - you're gonna need him
bob young
"john w
> x-no-archive: yes
> On 10 Feb 2007 17:12:33 -0800, "AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
> can be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
> >alt.fan.jesus-christ, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
> >uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
> >
> >Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
> >
> >Barack Obama is very good looking, charming, extremely charismatic. he
> >seems so "good", unlike bill clinton.
> >he seems highly, highly intelligent, more so than any politition i've
> >ever seen. i am not everything about him fits the expected profile of
> >the antichrist, but what if some of those expectations are wrong?
>
> The anti-Christ-- the model we have from scripture-- MUST be a
> European-born JEW!!
>
> (no slam on my beloved / God's beloved Jews implied or intended)
>
> The anti-Christ-- the model we have from scripture-- MUST be a
> European-born JEW!!
>
> That is an absolute MUST!
>
> Why MUST he be a Jew?
>
> (stupid question) Was Jesus Jewish?
> YES! Who did Jesus come to redeem?
> FIRST and FOREMOST, Jesus came to redeem The House of Israel.
>
> The JEWS!
>
> So the FALSE Christ must ALSO be of the House of Israel.
>
> More specifically, Jesus was of the House of DAVID (the House of the
> KINGS)
>
> The anti-Christ MUST be Jewish, AND he must convince the Jews that he
> is of the lineage of David.
>
> That is -- SUPPOSEDLY -- that the anti-Christ is to come from the
> same Kingly line as Christ came.
GROAN
bob young
"john w
> x-no-archive: yes
> ??
> I see no "flaws" in my reasoning. Perhaps we have different views on
> eschatology!.........
...............Is that doing poo poo's or am i confusing it with something
else?
>
>
> First off, no-where is the Beast of
> >Revelation called the "anti-christ." Even though John is the only NT
> >author who used the term, "antichrist," he did not use it of the
> >Beast.
>
> And-- yet--- I believe a thorough study of scripture would bring the
> sincere student to the conclusion that there are a multitude of titles
> / labels for The Anti-Christ. One such label / title is "The Beast."
> >
> >And John tells is that there were many "anti christs" even in his
> >time, is also identified by John as a former believer.
>
> Absolutely correct.
>
> There were many anti-Christs in Jesus' time, many in the time of the
> apostles, many since.
>
> HOWEVER, there will be one and ONLY one "The Anti-Christ."
> Not a dozen, not hundreds, not thousands.
> Many who are anti-Christ, including a dozen I could name in this
> group:
> Robibnikof
> Walksalone
> Phar Lap (by whatever label he wears today)
> Libertarius (whom I choose to call "Lobotomy")
> Dave Horn
>
> etc.
> anti-Christs, but NOT The Anti-Christ.
>
> The Anti-Christ is he of whom I was referring.
>
> >
> >The word itself, in Greek, the prefix, "anti" means both "against" and
> >also "instead of." It carries the same idea of the "false christs"
> >that Jesus used in Matthew.
> >
> >As to the Beast, it is the same endtime government depicted in
> >Daniel's vision. Essentially it is the endtime representation of the
> >Roman Empire which is depicted as two legs of clay and iron
> >(representing both strength and weakness). The two legs represent the
> >split Roman Empire with captials in Rome and Constantinople
> >(Istanbul). Ten toes, 10 is used in Scripture as a form of
> >completeness and also signifies that, by the time of the end, it is
> >geographically more seperated. The decendents of the Roman Empire now
> >reside throughout Europe, the Middle East, Africa and the other foot
> >is in the Americas. The ten toes also suggest two groups of nations.
>
> I am also not going to argue over the symbols in symbolic books.
>
> "We shall see in due time." And I am sure that when things unfold, I
> will be surprised by some events; I am equally sure that others--
> including YOU -- will be surprised.
>
> I for one didn't anticipate the Arabs ( Muslims) arising as The World
> Threat of the 21st Century, DWARFING the Communist threat of the 20th.
>
> >
> >The Beast then, is the leader of these nations, although the 10 toes
> >and the iron and clay suggest that he isn't an all powerful leader.
> >Logically, the Beast is the "leader of the free world," whomever he
> >may be at the time.
>
> Nor do I have this much = intent / interest in engaging you on
> scriptural topics, as I am quite convinced that you are one who is
> possessed by evil spirits.
vernon
"AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> alt.fan.jesus-christ, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
> uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
>
> Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
>
There is and never was and never will be any such thing as "The AntiChrist"
referenced in the bible.
Try reading the bible.
vernon
"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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> The anti-Christ-- the model we have from scripture-- MUST be a
> European-born JEW!!
>
There is no "The Anti-Christ" in scripture. Hence, no model.
Read the bible.
What is this, fictional fantasy land?
vernon
<no...@noway.com> wrote in message
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Correct.
There have been books written of the Beast and the leader.
The most interesting (but questionable) hypothesis I have seen is that "The
beast" was a huge, not "thinking" (in human terms) computer system that got
out of control, set up by the European Union.
anon...@nowhere.you.know
NOs...@no.spam
wrote:
>
>HOWEVER, there will be one and ONLY one "The Anti-Christ."
>Not a dozen, not hundreds, not thousands.
>Many who are anti-Christ, including a dozen I could name in this
>group:
> Robibnikof
> Walksalone
> Phar Lap (by whatever label he wears today)
>Libertarius (whom I choose to call "Lobotomy")
>Dave Horn
Go back to your room and calm yourself. When you have calmed down
sufficiently, we will talk about this further.
NOs...@no.spam
wrote:
>
>Nor do I have this much = intent / interest in engaging you on
>scriptural topics, as I am quite convinced that you are one who is
>possessed by evil spirits.
More delusions, John.
nick cobb
however, all of those who REJECT JESUS CHRIST AS KING AND GOD are
anti-christs. This includes all religions which do not accept Jesus
Christ as King & God.
NOs...@no.spam
wrote:
>
>Did you just fart?
>
>(did you just say something? some noise came out, but all I got after
>that was something smelly. nothing intelligible.)
>
>
>>
I see your tendency to abnormally fixate on body parts and/or
functions is steadily increasing..... not a good sign.
David Morgan (MAMS)
"nick cobb" <ni...@nospamsnet.net> wrote in message...
> "THE" anti-christ is Lucifer,
Knowing the original definition of lucifer, from when and where it came,
just might increase your intelligence quotient a bit. It would at least
make you aware of your apparently successful religious brainwashing.
Phlogeus
<johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> (did you just say something? some noise came out, but all I got after
> that was something smelly. nothing intelligible.)
I think it is your brain rotting and seeping out down your nasal passages
taking the same route they used in mummification processes in Ancient
Egypt
Alec
No, it's not possible. An angel appeared to me 10 minutes ago and
revealed that the Antichrist is ... Bill O'Reilly!
Alexander Arnakis
>
>No, it's not possible. An angel appeared to me 10 minutes ago and
>revealed that the Antichrist is ... Bill O'Reilly!
The idea of an "anti-Christ" -- at least as evidenced in the recent
"end times" hysteria -- is essentially Manichean, seeing the world as
divided into black and white, good and evil. This dualistic vision
sees an eternal struggle between the forces of light and the forces of
darkness.
If there's an anti-Christ, it follows that there's an anti-God of more
or less equal power as the true God, and able to contest with the true
God on a plausible basis.
Such ideas are the very antithesis of Orthodox Christianity.
aggreen
"Alec" <Dush...@aol.com> wrote in message
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No, it's not possible. An angel appeared to me 10 minutes ago and
revealed that the Antichrist is ... Bill O'Reilly!
***Effective people, and Bill O'Reilly is VERY effective, are always
villified by the left.
Dan
> On Feb 10, 8:12?pm, "AirRaid" <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > alt.fan.jesus-christ, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
> > uk.religion.christian, soc.religion.christian
>
> > Is it possible that Barack Obama will be The Anti-Christ?
>
> > Barack Obama is very good looking, charming, extremely charismatic. he
> > he seems highly, highly intelligent, more so than any politition i've
> > the antichrist, but what if some of those expectations are wrong?
>
> > most teachings on the anti-christ say he will come out of the european
> > roman empire or the eastern roman empire, perhaps even the middle east
> > christ will come out of america.
>
> > because he seems too 'perfect'.
>
> > Obama never mentioned anything about doing away with the Real ID Act,
> > which will force all American's to recieve a National ID Card, which
> > many prophecy teachers think is a major stepping stone to the mark of
> > the beast.
>
> > without the National ID Card, nobody will be able to hold a job, use
> > public transportation, have a bank account, etc.
>
> > how much buying & selling will we do if the National ID Card (or
> > whatever it will be called) is implemented ?
>
> > again, that guy bothers me.
>
> No, it's not possible. An angel appeared to me 10 minutes ago and
> revealed that the Antichrist is ... Bill O'Reilly
He may be effective, but he's also mean and rude.
Alexander Arnakis
wrote:
>
>***Effective people, and Bill O'Reilly is VERY effective, are always
>villified by the left.
>
shallow windbag as is Rush Limbaugh. These guys make sense only to the
ditto-heads, like you.
aggreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
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***And I suppose comedian Al Franken speaking for the Democratic left on Air
America does make sense? Give me a break. The lefties are as much "ditto
heads" as the right. LOL!
aggreen
"Dan" <pras...@communitymail.net> wrote in message
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***So are most radio/TV talk show hosts, Democratic or Republican, left or
right. It goes with the territory. None are as mean and rude as the lefty
windbags on Air America.
Stephen Adams
O'Reailly does have his moments, but for the most part is simply
one more populist trying to push a simplistic agenda...
-Stephen
--
Space Age Cybernomad Stephen Adams
malchu...@AMgmail.com (remove SPAM to reply)
Alexander Arnakis
>
>O'Reilly does have his moments, but for the most part is simply
>one more populist trying to push a simplistic agenda...
>
Alec
> "Alec" <Dushe...@aol.com> wrote in message
Al, I shared this posting of yours with people who actually know me.
They're ~howling~ with laughter that you've placed me on the left side
of the aisle ...
Alec
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:29:02 -0500, "aggreen" <aggr...@nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
> >***Effective people, and Bill O'Reilly is VERY effective, are always
> >villified by the left.
>
> Bill O'Reilly "effective"?! Don't make me laugh. He's as much of a
> shallow windbag as is Rush Limbaugh. These guys make sense only to the
> ditto-heads, like you.
Truer words were never spoken. No serious conservative of my
acquaintance would give either of these gents the time of day --
they're strictly lounge acts for hoi polloi. Buckley still lives. So
does George Will. Even Buchanan represents a way higher level of
insight and discourse than either O'Reilly or Limbaugh ...
veritas
"Phlogeus" <Bright...@Flame.com> wrote in message
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I don't know about what you wrote is true . Looks very conspiratorial to me
.
*But* , this guy ( Obama ) was a Muslim in his youth . Now he is a Christian
.
Do you buy this ? I don't .
I think he is a closet Muslim . A crypto-Muslim if you like and sympathetic
to them.
Alexander Arnakis
>Truer words were never spoken. No serious conservative of my
>acquaintance would give either of these gents the time of day --
>they're strictly lounge acts for hoi polloi. Buckley still lives. So
>does George Will. Even Buchanan represents a way higher level of
>insight and discourse than either O'Reilly or Limbaugh ...
Buckley, Will, and Buchanan are serious thinkers. However, they
represent different threads within conservatism. Pat Buchanan is more
of a populist; he's against economic globalization and foreign
military entanglements.
Alexander Arnakis
wrote:
>
>*But* , this guy ( Obama ) was a Muslim in his youth . Now he is a Christian.
>
>Do you buy this ? I don't .
>
>I think he is a closet Muslim . A crypto-Muslim if you like and sympathetic
>to them.
>
President. His utility, at this point, is sucking some of the "oxygen"
out of Hillary Clinton's campaign, and thereby creating more of an
opening for Edwards. If Edwards is successful, Obama might be rewarded
with the VP slot.
aggreen
***Er...I was referring to the left in general. I don't recall mentioning
you by name. But, I'll be fair...Lefty Lou Dobbs on CNN is equally vilified
by the right!
aggreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***When Obama was a child in Indonesia, he attended a Roman Catholic school,
but his father registered him as a Moslem. He also has two VERY Islamic
names.
Alexander Arnakis
wrote:
>
>***Er...I was referring to the left in general. I don't recall mentioning
>you by name. But, I'll be fair...Lefty Lou Dobbs on CNN is equally vilified
>by the right!
>
Buchanan? They're both against globalization and runaway immigration.
veritas
"aggreen" <agg...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> ***When Obama was a child in Indonesia, he attended a Roman Catholic
> school, but his father registered him as a Moslem. He also has two VERY
> Islamic names.
>
Here we heard that he attended a madrussa ( Muslim school ) .
Then some said that it was Hillary's Campaign spreading "rumors" .
One has to wonder about this fellow and guy he is so eager to make "peace"
with his father's co-religionists .
In end he may implode or explode like Dean last time ...but then again he
may get on Hillary's VP slot too.
Alexander Arnakis
wrote:
>
>Here we heard that he attended a madrussa ( Muslim school ) .
>
>Then some said that it was Hillary's Campaign spreading "rumors" .
>
>One has to wonder about this fellow and guy he is so eager to make "peace"
>
>with his father's co-religionists .
>
>In end he may implode or explode like Dean last time ...but then again he
>may get on Hillary's VP slot too.
>
satanically-possessed woman has to be stopped at all costs.
aggreen
years he was in Indonesia, he attended the RC parochial school.
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aggreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***I don't know what to think about Buchanan. He's all over the
place...left, right, centrist. I think he lacks commitment to any particular
political philosophy.