PALIN IS A LIAR - DO WE REALLY WANT MORE LIARS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY?
Möbius Pretzel
Religion Is The Problem
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> And that my friends, is the question...
>
Nobody cares really. Lying about pregnancy of your daughter and lying
about political dealings is 2 different things.
Palin wont be vice president anyway, so it doesnt matter.
vernono
"Möbius Pretzel" <M0bius_S...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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LIAR Mobius
Palin daughter's pregnancy and fallout Apparently, the pregnancy of
17-year-old Bristol Palin wasn't a secret in her hometown of Wasilla,
Alaska. In fact, people thought it was her business, not everybody else's.
But politics is rough, and it was bound to get out sooner or later.
What's the religion tag here? Bristol's mom, would-be vice president Sarah
Palin, is anti-abortion because of her strong Christian faith, and certainly
the talk will turn to whether she pressured Bristol into having the baby.
According to Newsweek, that never entered the picture:
http://www.time.com/time/po...
dtom...@aol.com
> And that my friends, is the question...
Apparently we do. We prefer lying politicians to lying newsgroup
trolls. Maybe you can run for office and leave us alone?
zzpat
It's hard being a right wing pro family nut. Give her a break already.
They talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.
But this is normal for the GOP. Reagan was hated by his children,
Gingrich divorced his cancer ridden wife, while others frolic in public
bathrooms looking for cheap sex. Still others go to prostitutes.
Behind the curtain is a party of hypocrites. Their wizard of oz is a fraud.
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tar~bal
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> On Sep 1, 8:05 am, Möbius Pretzel <M0bius_S_Pret...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> And that my friends, is the question...
>
> Apparently we do. We prefer lying politicians to lying newsgroup
> trolls. Maybe you can run for office and leave us alone?
It's hard being a right wing pro family nut. Give her a break already.
They talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.
But this is normal for the GOP. Reagan was hated by his children,
Gingrich divorced his cancer ridden wife, while others frolic in public
bathrooms looking for cheap sex. Still others go to prostitutes.
Behind the curtain is a party of hypocrites. Their wizard of oz is a fraud.
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Next we'll learn that her daughter is a hypocritical Democrat that didn't
have the decency to stand up for women's rights and have the baby scraped
out of her body...
Of course, Democrats would roundly applaud this action. It would be so much
better for her to kill the baby and pretend it never happened. It would be
so much more political expedient, which, of course, guides all of the
decisions of the Democrats, right?
tar~bal
"DG" <xxxx...@xxxxxx.xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "tar~bal" wrote:
>>
>>Next we'll learn that her daughter is a hypocritical Democrat that didn't
>>have the decency to stand up for women's rights and have the baby scraped
>>out of her body...
>
>
> abortion.
Is that what Obama's Momma should have done?
>
>
>>Of course, Democrats would roundly applaud this action. It would be so
>>much
>>better for her to kill the baby and pretend it never happened. It would
>>be
>>so much more political expedient, which, of course, guides all of the
>>decisions of the Democrats, right?
>
>
> Vote Obama, Trig needs a mommy...
Yeah, keeping women at home cooking and mommying is what the Democrats are
all about. LOL
vernono
> On Sep 1, 8:05 am, Möbius Pretzel <M0bius_S_Pret...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> And that my friends, is the question...
>
> Apparently we do. We prefer lying politicians to lying newsgroup
> trolls. Maybe you can run for office and leave us alone?
>It's hard being a right wing pro family nut. Give her a break already.
>They talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.
For the idiots who never studied pstchology OR the bible, each child is a
new and COMPLETELY different person.
>But this is normal for the GOP. Reagan was hated by his children, Gingrich
>divorced his cancer ridden wife, while others frolic in public bathrooms
>looking for cheap sex. Still others go to prostitutes.
For the idiots who never studied pstchology OR the bible, each child is a
new and COMPLETELY different person.
>Behind the curtain is a party of hypocrites. Their wizard of oz is a fraud.
Solomon, the smartest man ever to live had no children that followed his
example.
For the idiots who never studied psychology OR the bible, each child is a
new and COMPLETELY different person.
JeWitch
> On Sep 1, 8:05 am, Möbius Pretzel <M0bius_S_Pret...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> And that my friends, is the question...
>
> Apparently we do. We prefer lying politicians to lying newsgroup
> trolls. Maybe you can run for office and leave us alone?
It's hard being a right wing pro family nut. Give her a break already.
They talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.
But this is normal for the GOP. Reagan was hated by his children,
Gingrich divorced his cancer ridden wife, while others frolic in public
bathrooms looking for cheap sex. Still others go to prostitutes.
Behind the curtain is a party of hypocrites. Their wizard of oz is a fraud.
Don't forget Guiliani .. bring his mistress to live in the governors mansion
while his wife was still living there.
dtom...@aol.com
>
> Don't forget Guiliani .. bring his mistress to live in the governors mansion
> while his wife was still living there.
He lived with friends in their apartment instead of staying with his
wife. Prior to that he slept in an office at the Mayor's mansion. Do
you all get news down there or do you just make stuff up?
vernono
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Like it or not, Palin took the oil companies to task and blasted the good
old boys, even in her own part.
SO take your bigotry someplace else.
She had a job to do and did it.
You didn't nor did any of your friends.
KK
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:31:14 -0700, "vernono" <ver...@there.com> wrote:
>
>>Like it or not, Palin took the oil companies to task and blasted the
>>good old boys, even in her own part.
>
>
> So she says, but the details are certainly lacking.
Only if you're ignorant of them.
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB122057381593001741.html
How Palin Beat Alaska's Establishment September 5, 2008; Page A13
If you've read the press coverage of Sarah Palin, chances are you've heard
plenty about her religious views and private family matters. If you want
to know what drives Gov. Palin's politics, and has intrigued America, read
this. [Potomac Watch]
Martin Kozlowski
Every state has its share of crony capitalism, but Big Oil and the GOP
political machine have taken that term to new heights in Alaska. The oil
industry, which provides 85% of state revenues, has strived to own the
government. Alaska's politicians—in particular ruling Republicans—roll
in oil campaign money, lavish oil revenue on pet projects, then retire to
lucrative oil jobs where they lobby for sweetheart oil deals. You can love
the free market and not love this.
Alaskans have long resented this dysfunction, which has led to
embarrassing corruption scandals. It has also led to a uniform belief that
the political class, in hock to the oil class, fails to competently
oversee Alaska's vast oil and gas wealth, the majority of which belongs to
the state—or rather, Alaskan citizens.
And so it came as no surprise in 2004 when former Republican Gov. Frank
Murkowski made clear he'd be working exclusively with three North Slope
producers—ExxonMobil, ConocoPhillips and BP—to build a $25 billion
pipeline to move natural gas to the lower 48. The trio had informed their
political vassals that they alone would build this project (they weren't
selling their gas to outsiders) and that they expected the state to reward
them. Mr. Murkowski disappeared into smoky backrooms to work out the
details. He refused to release information on the negotiations. When
Natural Resources Commissioner Tom Irwin suggested terms of the contract
were illegal, he was fired.
What Mr. Murkowski did do publicly was instruct his statehouse to change
the oil and gas tax structure (taxes being a primary way Alaskans realize
their oil revenue). Later, citizens would discover this was groundwork for
Mr. Murkowski's pipeline contract—which would lock in that oil-requested
tax package for up to 40 years, provide a $4 billion state investment, and
relinquish most oversight.
Enter Mrs. Palin. The former mayor of Wasilla had been appointed by Mr.
Murkowski in 2003 to the state oil and gas regulatory agency. She'd had
the temerity to blow the whistle on fellow GOP Commissioner Randy Ruedrich
for refusing to disclose energy dealings. Mr. Murkowski and GOP Attorney
General Gregg Renkes closed ranks around Mr. Ruedrich—who also chaired
the state GOP. Mrs. Palin resigned. Having thus offended the entire old
boy network, she challenged the governor for his seat.
Mrs. Palin ran against the secret deal, and vowed to put the pipeline back
out for competitive, transparent, bidding. She railed against cozy
politics. Mr. Murkowski ran on his unpopular pipeline deal. The oil
industry warned the state would never get its project without his
leadership. Mrs. Palin walloped him in the primary and won office in late
2006. Around this time, news broke of a federal probe that would show oil
executives had bribed lawmakers to support the Murkowski tax changes.
Among Mrs. Palin's first acts was to reinstate Mr. Irwin. By February 2007
she'd released her requirements for pipeline bidding. They were stricter,
and included only a $500 million state incentive. By May a cowed state
house—reeling from scandal—passed her legislation.
The producers warned they would not bid, nor would anyone else. Five
groups submitted proposals. A few months before the legislature awarded
its license to TransCanada this July, Conoco and BP suddenly announced
they'd be building their own pipeline with no state inducements
whatsoever. They'd suddenly found the money.
Mrs. Palin has meanwhile passed an ethics law. She's tightened up oil
oversight. She forced the legislature to rewrite the oil tax law. That new
law raised taxes on the industry, for which Mrs. Palin is now taking some
knocks, but the political background here is crucial.
The GOP machine has crumbled. Attorney General Renkes resigned. Mr.
Ruedrich was fined $12,000. Jim Clark—Mr. Murkowski's lead pipeline
negotiator—pleaded guilty to conspiring with an oil firm. At least three
legislators have been convicted. Sen. Ted Stevens is under indictment for
oil entanglements, while Rep. Don Young is under investigation.
Throughout it all, Mrs. Palin has stood for reform, though not populism.
She thanks oil companies and says executives who "seek maximum revenue"
are "simply doing their job." She says her own job is to be a "savvy"
negotiator on behalf of Alaska's citizens and to provide credible
oversight. It is this combination that lets her aggressively promote new
energy while retaining public trust.
Today's congressional Republicans could learn from this. The party has
been plagued by earmarks, scandal and corruption. Most members have
embraced the machine. That has diminished voters' trust, and in the
process diminished good, conservative ideas. It is no wonder 37 million
people tuned in to Mrs. Palin's convention speech. They are looking for
something fresh.
queenie
>On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:31:14 -0700, "vernono" <ver...@there.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Like it or not, Palin took the oil companies to task and blasted the good
>>old boys, even in her own part.
>
>
>So she says, but the details are certainly lacking.
And it's not like McCain's lip-stick wearing bitch is granting
interviews.
vernono
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>>old boys, even in her own part.
>
>
What details do you want? The laws are on the books for all to read.
You are kidding. SHE didn't claim such by herself. It's public record.
She just made fun of it.
CB
>On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:31:14 -0700, "vernono" <ver...@there.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Like it or not, Palin took the oil companies to task and blasted the good
>>old boys, even in her own part.
>
>
>So she says, but the details are certainly lacking.
P.K.
retro...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:31:14 -0700, "vernono" <ver...@there.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Like it or not, Palin took the oil companies to task and blasted the good
> >old boys, even in her own part.
>
P.K.
asshole.
alexy
>She is due to have a press conference where she will tear your boy a new
>asshole.
When? I don't think her handlers will let her get into a situation
where she might say anything they haven't written for her. It will
probably be a while before they think she is competent to speak
off-script, much less be ready to govern.
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P.K.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080907/pl_politico/13227
CB
>"P.K." <geo...@vcnet.com> wrote:
>
>>She is due to have a press conference where she will tear your boy a new
>>asshole.
>
>When? I don't think her handlers will let her get into a situation
>where she might say anything they haven't written for her. It will
>probably be a while before they think she is competent to speak
>off-script, much less be ready to govern.
You mean like obama?
Pat H
What's the religion tag here? Bristol's mom, would-be vice president
Sarah Palin, is anti-abortion because of her strong Christian faith, and
certainly the talk will turn to whether she pressured Bristol into
having the baby.
Pat: The religion tag is the sin of fornication. The Palin family all
support one another is what Sarah's sister in Alaska said on TV. They
support the sin of fornication. Is Sarah Palin demanding that he minor
child not have sex anymore with Levi, the teenage father? Since Sarah
Paling taught abstinance to other people it makes it hypocrisy. Sarah
Palin cannot raise her children right. Did you see her wild 7-year-old
in the convention on both nights? The 1st night the 7-year-old was
wiping HER SPIT on the Downs Syndrome baby's head and hair and then they
showed her poking and probably touching her eye brows. This 7-year-old
had a red mouth and looked sick. This was while Sarah Palin was saying
special needs children inspire a special kind of love. NO WAY is that
special love for the betterment of the Downs Syndrome baby. Then the
next night the 7-year-old was constantly going up from behind to get to
her mother. The adults could not stop her. This was while Cindy McCain
was speaking. She is a wild thing giving no respect to adults. Since
Sarah Palin cannot raise her children right, she has NO BUSINESS trying
to e VP or become president because McCain is so old and has had cancer
4 or 5 times before can easily die in office. Vote for Obama/Biden if
you people have any sense.
Pat's preaching:
The Way To Heaven, according to the Bible
http://www.geocities.com/1christlover
"Once Saved, Always Saved" IS WRONG
Pat H
Pat: Now that's the truth, and more lkely to bring the special kind of
love Saran Paln sppke of that special needs children inspire in us.
Hey, speaking ofher LIES, one to surface recently is the lie that she
has been saying she sold her jet/plane on E-bay, but that is not true.
She only listed it on E-bay and it was actually sold in person from
someone who knew someone who bought it. Plus McCain went around
repeating this lie and he even said it sold for profit which is another
lie because it sold for like $600,000 less than what it was worth. Liars
and no one fit to lead do not deserve to be in office. So vote for
Obama.
alexy
Are you under the impression that he has been afraid to meet with the
press, and that he has handlers that is keeping him away from the
press to avoid his saying anything they didn't script?
alexy
>Here is your answer genius ................
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080907/pl_politico/13227
>
>alexy wrote:
>
>> "P.K." <geo...@vcnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >She is due to have a press conference where she will tear your boy a new
>> >asshole.
>>
>> When? I don't think her handlers will let her get into a situation
>> where she might say anything they haven't written for her. It will
>> probably be a while before they think she is competent to speak
>> off-script, much less be ready to govern.
No, there is nothing there about her having a press conference, which
is what you claimed.
Nobody ever said her handlers were dumb. It looks like enough people
were asking the same thing, with the result that the handlers realized
they have to let her out of her cage at least briefly. I am sure they
will keep her on a VERY short leash. A press conference is very
unlikely.
Pat H
a new and COMPLETELY different person.
Pat: Study this from the Bible:
Revilers (people who use abusive language in speaking to or about
others) will not inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Cor. 6:9,10)
Jesus said, "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts... false
witness, blasphemies (slander, speech injurious to another's good name).
These are the things which defile a man." (Matthew 15:19,20)
He who sins is of the devil. (1 John 3:8) ~ That is talking about
habitually sinful conduct, because that chapter is talking about what
one practices. If you slip up and stumble, He will forgive you if you
confess to Him and ask for forgiveness, because He is faithful and just
to forgive you (1 John 1:9). But in order to rightfully claim 1 John
1:9, you must be doing the conditions found in 1:6,7. You must not be
walking in darkness (practicing sin). You must be walking in the light.
You can't be bound up in sin, and then just confess those sins you are a
slave to, and get forgiveness. It does not work that way.
YOU NEED TO REPENT
Jesus said, "unless you repent you will all likewise perish." (Luke
13:3) ~ These words are so important that they are the same exact words
repeated just 2 verses later in 13:5. To repent means to change one's
mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins.
That's a strong dislike or hatred of your past sins. It's much more than
just feeling sorry for your sins. It also involves what you think about
sin and what you intend to do about it. You must change.
Telling people to repent is the 1st thing Jesus said in His ministry. He
said, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matt. 4:17) ~ In
the gospel according to Mark, Jesus said, "The time is fulfilled, and
the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel." (Mark
1:15)
Telling people to repent is also the very 1st thing Jesus' disciples
told to other people. So they went out and preached that people should
repent - Mark 6:12. ~ That's what we should say if we want to talk about
how to get to heaven. ~ At the beginning of Paul's ministry, He told
people that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting
repentance. (Acts 26:20) The word works here also means an act, deed,
thing done. It is not about works of the OT law. It's about what you do
with your life. The word befitting also means meet, worthy,
corresponding to a thing. So to do works befitting repentance means
genuine repentance is shown by a changed behavior.
From my page:
Pat H
Don't forget Guiliani .. bring his mistress to live in the governors
mansion while his wife was still living there.
Pat:
Guilliani put Obama down for being a community organizer. Then I think
he lied about Obama not voting yes or no but present was because it was
too tough. Then he mocked Obama with "Only in America." Then he said
Barack Obama never lead anything. Sure that's not a lie? Then he said
America is safe in John McCain's hands. But I say no because McCain is
impulsive and trigger happy with his temper and that makes us less safe
because a big war with Russia can easily destroy us. He said John McCain
will lower taxes. Really? On who, the wealthy who already get the Bush
Tax Cut and he will lower their taxes? I dont now, because he only made
this vague coment on lowering taxes. Then he stole Obama's line about
energy independance by freeing us from dependancy on foreign oil. He
mocked change by saying Biden should get VP candidancy in writing. He
fessed up later to one of his lies about Obama saying the Wassalia City
Hall was not cosmopolitan enough when he admitted Obama only said not
big enough.
Peope who care and have sense will vote for Obama. I will.
vernono
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They have plans and they have to be certain that she and McCain appear on
the same page.
They know what they are doing. The longer they wait, the higher the
anticipation.
She wiped out Obama in numbers, right or wrong.
McCain had been working with her and people who know her since April. He
made it look like a week.
They may be wrong but so far the press and public can't get enough.
queenie
wrote:
>They may be wrong but so far the press and public can't get enough.
The press and the pundits can't get enough.
vernono
CB
>CB <count...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:56:07 -0400, alexy <nos...@asbry.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"P.K." <geo...@vcnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>She is due to have a press conference where she will tear your boy a new
>>>>asshole.
>>>
>>>When? I don't think her handlers will let her get into a situation
>>>where she might say anything they haven't written for her. It will
>>>probably be a while before they think she is competent to speak
>>>off-script, much less be ready to govern.
>>
>>You mean like obama?
>
>Are you under the impression that he has been afraid to meet with the
>press, and that he has handlers that is keeping him away from the
>press to avoid his saying anything they didn't script?
Yes.
JeWitch
weekend Palin does too .. and the one she belonged to before was even more
wacked than the new one she joined. Also, read that her mother-in-law wants
to know 'what makes this country think that Sarah is qualified to be VP ..'
Pat H
listened to a Jews for Jesus guy preach. He said God KILLED the Jews
because they didn't believe in Christ. That's what Palin is associated
with.
It's PAT. Did you see the 1st show of the new Rachel Maddow Show
yesterday? The hypocrite Pat Buchanan was on. He acused Rachel Maddow
of bashing religion, but then brings up Barack Obama's OLD church to
bash religion.
No way. No how. No McCain. NoPalin.
Vote for Obama.
KK
> I always thought that Obama was a member of a wacky church, but I read this
> weekend Palin does too
Any church which has, as a basic tenet, that there's an invisible,
all-powerful man in the sky who created the universe and cares about you
and knows every detail of your life, who's all-knowing and all-good, yet
lets children die horrible deaths, is wacky.
John Black
says...
> Also, read that her mother-in-law wants
> to know 'what makes this country think that Sarah is qualified to be VP ..'
I've read at least a dozen things in the past week about Palin that have
turned out to be untrue.
John Black
ujb
> On August 17th, just a few weeks ago, Palin was there in church and she
> listened to a Jews for Jesus guy preach. He said God KILLED the Jews
> because they didn't believe in Christ.
God seems to do that stuff you know, but some of the times he'll change
His mind...
> That's what Palin is associated
> with.
hahahaha lol that's what she is associated with? a guest speaker, a one
time guest speaker at that! hahahaha lol
> It's PAT. Did you see the 1st show of the new Rachel Maddow Show
> yesterday? The hypocrite Pat Buchanan was on. He acused Rachel Maddow
> of bashing religion, but then brings up Barack Obama's OLD church to
> bash religion.
I'm sure Buchanan was his wonderful self? I'd vote him for pope...
> No way. No how. No McCain. NoPalin.
my money is on the McCain in 08
> Vote for Obama.
your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're not
a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
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Best answer by Sarah:
all i can say is, dont plan on getting this published....
hahahahaha
tar~bal
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> accurate. Like it or not.
LOL Good one. So who in the MSM tells the truth all the time? FOX?
MSNBC? CNN?
vernonoj
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> On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:14:56 -0500, John Black <jbl...@texas.net>
> wrote:
>
> accurate. Like it or not.
How about people who live where she does and not in Usenet.
MSM? he he he he NONE are accurate. There is no accurate reporting any
more whether on supposedly Conservative or Liberal owned stations.
vernonoj
"tar~bal" <ba...@wheeze.net> wrote in message
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All the time? Who even half the time?
BobR
> In article <PKednXjWYbF1z1vVnZ2dnUVZ_j6dn...@giganews.com>, i...@home.com
> says...
>
> > Also, read that her mother-in-law wants
> > to know 'what makes this country think that Sarah is qualified to be VP ..'
>
> I've read at least a dozen things in the past week about Palin that have
> turned out to be untrue.
>
> John Black
Just a dozen? You must not read very much. <BG>
Richard Eich
re...@r-a-reed-assoc.com wrote...
Exactly!!! The number of claims the McCain campaign has put out=20
about Palin that have turned out to be untrue is a lot more than a=20
dozen, that's for sure.
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"President Obama" -- say it every chance you can.
Pat H
On August 17th, just a few weeks ago, Palin was there in church and she
listened to a Jews for Jesus guy preach. He said God KILLED the Jews
because they didn't believe in Christ.
UJB:
God seems to do that stuff you know, but some of the times he'll change
His mind...
Pat: Where in Scripture does it show GOD KILLING THE JEWS?
That's what Palin is associated
with.
UJB:
hahahaha lol that's what she is associated with? a guest speaker, a one
time guest speaker at that! hahahaha lol
Pat: On that day she associated with him. She listened to him and did
not renounce those beliefs, and she likes to think she is Pro-Israel.
That's a joke! So laugh at that.
It's PAT. Did you see the 1st show of the new Rachel Maddow Show
yesterday? The hypocrite Pat Buchanan was on. He acused Rachel Maddow of
bashing religion, but then brings up Barack Obama's OLD church to bash
religion.
UJB:
I'm sure Buchanan was his wonderful self? I'd vote him for pope...
Pat: Pat Buchanan is terrible. You prove you don't know much about
religion or you are a joke.
No way. No how. No McCain. NoPalin.
UJB:
my money is on the McCain in 08
Pat: You are gambling on who will be president? Hillary Clinton's words
above are good.
Vote for Obama.
UJB:
your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're not
a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
Pat: You are full of sin. IF you knew my preaching you would certainly
know I am no Baptist. Now repent so that the Lord can have mercy on your
soul
Pat H
all-powerful man in the sky who created the universe and cares about you
and knows every detail of your life, who's all-knowing and all-good, yet
lets children die horrible deaths, is wacky.
Pat: Hebrews 4:12,13 - For the word of God is living and powerful, and
sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul
and spirit, ... and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the
heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things
are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. ~
Note: The word for discerner also means relating to judging, fit for
judging, skilled in judging. The word for intents also means mind, the
act of thinking, consideration, meditation, a thought. So even our
thoughts are judged by God's word. The word for heart also means the
centre and seat of spiritual life, the soul or mind. This explains why
heart is often used for soul or spirit. The word for eyes also means the
eyes of the mind, the faculty of knowing. You see, God knows our
thoughts and He judges them by His word; so we better not have a corrupt
mind, but believe and obey God's word with it.
ujb
> From: u...@bigfoot.com (ujb)
> Pat H wrote:
> On August 17th, just a few weeks ago, Palin was there in church and she
> listened to a Jews for Jesus guy preach. He said God KILLED the Jews
> because they didn't believe in Christ.
>
> UJB:
> God seems to do that stuff you know, but some of the times he'll change
> His mind...
>
> Pat: Where in Scripture does it show GOD KILLING THE JEWS?
I said "stuff", not "Jews". But it wouldn't be that hard to show God has
killed a Jew or two.
> That's what Palin is associated
> with.
hahahahaha lol
> UJB:
> hahahaha lol that's what she is associated with? a guest speaker, a one
> time guest speaker at that! hahahaha lol
>
> Pat: On that day she associated with him. She listened to him and did
> not renounce those beliefs,
just as people see your words here everyday and don't renounce em!
> and she likes to think she is Pro-Israel.
> That's a joke! So laugh at that.
she is, hahahahaha lol
> It's PAT. Did you see the 1st show of the new Rachel Maddow Show
> yesterday? The hypocrite Pat Buchanan was on. He acused Rachel Maddow of
> bashing religion, but then brings up Barack Obama's OLD church to bash
> religion.
>
> UJB:
> I'm sure Buchanan was his wonderful self? I'd vote him for pope...
>
> Pat: Pat Buchanan is terrible. You prove you don't know much about
> religion or you are a joke.
whatever, but we have each other.
> No way. No how. No McCain. NoPalin.
>
> UJB:
> my money is on the McCain in 08
>
> Pat: You are gambling on who will be president?
sure, how much would you like to put on your team?
> Hillary Clinton's words
> above are good.
oh please, nothing about Hillary is "good".
> Vote for Obama.
not me pal
> UJB:
> your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're not
> a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
>
> Pat: You are full of sin.
no pat, ujb is one righteous dude
> IF you knew my preaching you would certainly
> know I am no Baptist.
how pray tell could I know your preaching when it's obvious you don't
know what you preach? Oh, and from what I've seen I'd put my chips on
you being Church of Christ, Church of God in Christ, or perhaps African
Methodist Episcopal, but for sure you are wrong...
> Now repent so that the Lord can have mercy on your
> soul
is this John Weatherly perchance? lol
dtom...@aol.com
> In article <PKednXjWYbF1z1vVnZ2dnUVZ_j6dn...@giganews.com>, i...@home.com
>
> > Also, read that her mother-in-law wants
> > to know 'what makes this country think that Sarah is qualified to be VP ..'
>
> I've read at least a dozen things in the past week about Palin that have
> turned out to be untrue.
>
> John Black
I've read 2 dozen things this week about her that have turned out to
be true and worse than reported by Fox News or CNN. She is a backwards
rightwing loon.
dtom...@aol.com
> <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:u8cdc45q64e5d1acg...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:14:56 -0500, John Black <jbl...@texas.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>says...
> >>> Also, read that her mother-in-law wants
> >>> to know 'what makes this country think that Sarah is qualified to be VP
> >>> ..'
>
> >>I've read at least a dozen things in the past week about Palin that have
> >>turned out to be untrue.
>
> > And 100 that are. What do you expect when you read usenet? But MSM is
> > accurate. Like it or not.
>
> How about people who live where she does and not in Usenet.
> MSM? he he he he NONE are accurate. There is no accurate reporting any
> more whether on supposedly Conservative or Liberal owned stations.
It was reported that she is against abortions in cases of rape, is
that true or not? It was reported that she supports the teaching of
creationism and intelligent design in public schools, is that true or
not? Tell us what is accurate.
Pat H
other than my family. Period." So if you have a loved one who ever died
in war, you don't count.
Today's Worse Person in the World is Sean Hannidy, because he said no
one on Fox ever said Obama was a Muslim. But Keith Olbermann quoted a
few people who have.
I think they said the lady who beat Sarah Palin for Miss Alaska is going
to vote for Obama.
Sarah Palin lied about her personal chef that she got rid of her, but in
reality the chef just got reassigned with a different title.
Sarah Palin lied that she was against the Brdge to Nowhere and that she
stopped it, But she was for it 2 years ago and she didn't stop it,
Congress did. Only when Congress de-authorized building The Bridge did
she say "No, thanks."
Alaska has the highest rate of incest and rape = so Palin is not fit to
lead the country, nor to be 2nd in charge to a man 72 years old and has
already had cancer 4 or 5 times.
McCain's Campaign Manager was a Freddie Mac Lobbyist. McCain is a
Washington Insider that stays with the Statue Quo. He is no Maverick to
bring change. McCain has about 169 lobbyist and Obama has none. McCain
votes like Bush has over 90% of the time. That's not change, that's more
of the same.
McCain lies about Obama when he says Obama wants sex eduation for
kindergardners. That's nonsense! Obama's bill was to protect kids, not
to corrupt them. McCain gets no honor because he lies and his running
mate Palin lies.
Bush brings the word "success" to the table again when talking about the
surge, but look what success is to him = He is pulling out 8,000 troops
by February next year, but that still leaves more US troops there than
before the surge started.
The Republicans are terrible, so vote for Obama!
ujb
> John McCain's daughter Megan said today "no one knows what war is like
> other than my family. Period." So if you have a loved one who ever died
> in war, you don't count.
shouldn't we be magnanimous about her statement?
> Today's Worse Person in the World is Sean Hannidy,
i luv sean, and i like alan too
> because he said no one on Fox ever said Obama was a Muslim.
how does that change the fact Barry was?
> But Keith Olbermann quoted a few people who have.
>
> I think they said the lady who beat Sarah Palin for Miss Alaska is going
> to vote for Obama.
so it seems miss pattie, but if she has any smarts she knows it's wise
not to cross the color line on the international news.
> Sarah Palin lied about her personal chef that she got rid of her, but in
> reality the chef just got reassigned with a different title.
oh, but being a Christian she is forgiven
> Sarah Palin lied that she was against the Brdge to Nowhere and that she
> stopped it,
oh, but being a Christian she is forgiven
> But she was for it 2 years ago and she didn't stop it,
> Congress did. Only when Congress de-authorized building The Bridge did
> she say "No, thanks."
oh, that's just wonderful
> Alaska has the highest rate of incest and rape = so Palin is not fit to
> lead the country, nor to be 2nd in charge to a man 72 years old and has
> already had cancer 4 or 5 times.
oh, so it disturbs you a *girl* is just a heartbeat from being president
of the USA! lol
> McCain's Campaign Manager was a Freddie Mac Lobbyist. McCain is a
> Washington Insider that stays with the Statue Quo. He is no Maverick to
> bring change.
Do ya think 'MavCain' would lie?
> McCain has about 169 lobbyist and Obama has none.
could be it's not that easy for old white guys finding crack as it is
for half whites
> McCain
> votes like Bush has over 90% of the time. That's not change,
no, that's wonderful!
> that's more of the same.
oh good, more safe
> McCain lies about Obama when he says Obama wants sex eduation for
> kindergardners.
here in detroit most kids have sex "eduation" and are having sex before
they can read, that's about 18 in the 8th grade for a book like dick and
jane. "eduation" is complete when they can fill out a "brdge" card (Food
Stamps) application and have applied for welfare. lol
> That's nonsense! Obama's bill was to protect kids, not
> to corrupt them. McCain gets no honor because he lies and his running
> mate Palin lies.
hahahaha please pray for kwame kirkpatrick hahahaha
> Bush brings the word "success" to the table again when talking about the
> surge, but look what success is to him = He is pulling out 8,000 troops
> by February next year, but that still leaves more US troops there than
> before the surge started.
like everyone else, they have to be somewhere...
> The Republicans are terrible, so vote for Obama!
hahahaha, *terrible!* hahahaha
are we sensing a little fear pattie play pal?
> Pat's preaching:
wrong as the day is long.
Grabbitz
news:8479-48C...@storefull-3351.bay.webtv.net:
This posting is 100% correct. All facts check out.
ujb
sure they do! hahaha
-... Matt ...
wrote:
Well in my opinion
Fox 10% of the time
MSNBC 25% of the time
CNN is closest maybe 45% of the time.
Comedy Central at least can make you laugh
Matt
vernono
"-... Matt ..." <trdel...@SPAMgmail.com > wrote in message
news:d00gc4tttub8a89be...@4ax.com...
One thing I will say about FOX. Almost invariably they have opposing
people. Both (including OReilly and Hannity) present dumb statements with
equally dumb responders (usually from PBS)
The uninformed actually believes one side or the other.
CB
wrote:
So now your true colors show.
You're just another lunatic liberal.
Pat H
They think Palin can be a victim, but it is not going to work. McCain
can't play "sexism" card because of how he treated Clinton with his own
"Lipstick on a pig" commet about her health care plan. John McCain has
said it 4 times in the last year and a half. Megan his daughter says he
says it all the time. McCain's "Lipstick on a Pig" game makes peole sick
and tired of politics.
Enough is enough" says Obama. McCain loses today because of this
Lipstick Cry, These Crocodile Tears are beyond belief.
McCain politiced 911 with those pictures at the RNC to terrorize us with
it like using the terrorism will make peole vote for him.
Rachel Maddow showed a picture of McCain boarding a yacht on his
birthday August 29th 2 years ago. Welcomng him aboard was a Italan
playboy con man and his movie star celebrity girlfriend. Rachel said
McCain was there because they shared the same Washington Lobbyist. This
con man pled guilty today for something he did and is facing 5 years in
prison.
Sarah Palin has an e-mail scandal. There are 1,100 hidden e-mails that
they will not release. But they have to because not all of them are
confidential policy matters and she CC'd them to her husband, citizen
Todd, so she should be forced to reveal them, as they are part of
investigating her wrong doings.
There's a new group "Alaska Mythbusters" who will set the record
straight on Sarah Palin.
The deficit is now at 407 billions dollars. Blame the Republicans.
3rd Party candidates will hurt McCain. Ron Paul will not support McCain
because he says then the 2 or 3 million who voted for him would be mad.
But Hillary supports Obama and she got 18 million people to vote for
her. Bob Barr hurts McCain, too.
Sarah Palin RAISED TAXES as a mayor (for a skating rink) and as a
govenor.
Sarah Palin is for hacking wolves = animal abuse.
The Dept. of Interior has a sex and drugs scandal. It's ssome kind of
sex for oil deal. Mary J is included.
McCain is shameful and perverse because of the LIE about Obama having a
bill about sex education for kindergardners.
Obama is no longer discouraging 527's anymore. So they are fee to go. Go
get 'em.
Today's Worst Person in the World is Rick Goddard. He said Newt Gingrich
was talking about an Uppidy Person (not what Newt said, but what this
Rick guy said he was). It's a Racist comment beause the guy talked about
is African Amerian.
McCain says he knows how to capture Osama Bin Laden, but he hasn't done
it. Therefore he is a Do Nothing and he is aiding and abetting Osama Bin
Laden to stay free since he knows how to capture him.
These are today's news, and they say vote for Obama.
ujb
hahahaha lol MavCain and MavPalin in '08
Pat H
your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're not
a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
Pat: You are full of sin.
no pat, ujb is one righteous dude
Pat: It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
to vote for John McCain, the war monger. If you support war, you will
deserve spiritual death in hell (Romans 1:29-32). Have you seen my
anti-war post?
Pat: (before) IF you knew my preaching you would certainly know I am no
Baptist.
UJB:
how pray tell could I know your preaching when it's obvious you don't
know what you preach?
Pat: I know what I preach, you false accuser. So explain your lie = how
is it obvious I don't now what I preach, eh accuser?
UJB:
Oh, and from what I've seen I'd put my chips on you being Church of
Christ, Church of God in Christ, or perhaps African Methodist Episcopal,
Pat: Give me your chips. I preach against water baptism for salvation,
nor am I any denomination.
UJB:
but for sure you are wrong...
Pat: Dare to discuss Scripture so you can prove me wrong? What doctrine
do you want to chance with?
Now repent so that the Lord can have mercy on your soul
UJB:
is this John Weatherly perchance? lol
Pat: I am no liar. My name is Pat, short for Patrick.
ujb
> UJB:
> your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're not
> a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
> Pat: You are full of sin.
>
> no pat, ujb is one righteous dude
>
> Pat: It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
> to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
chapter and verse for the "vote", and please show any false accusations
if you would.
> If you support war, you will deserve spiritual death in hell
i will, or do?
> (Romans 1:29-32). Have you seen my anti-war post?
no, nor have i seen your pro-war post.
> Pat: (before) IF you knew my preaching you would certainly know I am no
> Baptist.
>
> UJB:
> how pray tell could I know your preaching when it's obvious you don't
> know what you preach?
>
> Pat: I know what I preach, you false accuser.
it's so obvious you don't
> So explain your lie = how is it obvious I don't now what
> I preach, eh accuser?
i have no lies to explain as i've posted no lies johnnie
> UJB:
> Oh, and from what I've seen I'd put my chips on you being Church of
> Christ, Church of God in Christ, or perhaps African Methodist Episcopal,
>
> Pat: Give me your chips. I preach against water baptism for salvation,
even tho you sound all wet, i was pointing out you sound more like a
negroid.
> nor am I any denomination.
kool, so you can just make it up as you go without an overseer! that
sure is an ez route...
> UJB:
> but for sure you are wrong...
>
> Pat: Dare to discuss Scripture so you can prove me wrong? What doctrine
> do you want to chance with?
it is only necessary to show your own words, much like pointing to a
flaming airplane sticking out of a trade center to know all is not right.
> Now repent so that the Lord can have mercy on your soul
God has had mercy on ujb
> UJB:
> is this John Weatherly perchance? lol
>
> Pat: I am no liar. My name is Pat, short for Patrick.
sorry pattie, but you sound so like liar-johnnie when his serotonin
levels are extra low.
ujb
Pat H
John McCain's daughter Megan said today "no one knows what war is like
other than my family. Period." So if you have a loved one who ever died
in war, you don't count.
Tuesday's Worse Person in the World was Sean Hannidy, because he said no
one on Fox ever said Obama was a Muslim. But Keith Olbermann quoted a
few people who have.
I think they said the lady who beat Sarah Palin for Miss Alaska is going
to vote for Obama.
Sarah Palin lied about her personal chef that she got rid of her, but in
reality the chef just got reassigned with a different title.
Sarah Palin lied that she was against the Brdge to Nowhere and that she
stopped it, But she was for it 2 years ago and she didn't stop it,
Congress did. Only when Congress de-authorized building The Bridge did
she say "No, thanks."
Alaska has the highest rate of incest and rape = so Palin is not fit to
lead the country, nor to be 2nd in charge to a man 72 years old and has
already had cancer a few times.
McCain's Campaign Manager was a Freddie Mac Lobbyist. McCain is a
Washington Insider that stays with the Statue Quo. He is no Maverick to
bring change. McCain has about 169 lobbyist and Obama has none. McCain
votes like Bush has over 90% of the time. That's not change, that's more
of the same.
McCain lies about Obama when he says Obama wants sex eduation for
kindergardners. That's nonsense! Obama's bill was to protect kids, not
to corrupt them. McCain gets no honor because he lies and his running
mate Palin lies.
Bush brings the word "success" to the table again when talking about the
surge, but look what success is to him = He is pulling out 8,000 troops
by February next year, but that still leaves more US troops there than
before the surge started.
The Republicans are terrible, so vote for Obama!
Pat's preaching:
Pat H
So now your true colors show.
You're just another lunatic liberal.
Pat: Discuss my words to prove me wrong if you can, or sin again with
your blasphemy and reviling of me again.
John McCain's daughter Megan said Tuesday "no one knows what war is like
Pat H
McCain picked Palin to try to get "sexist" accusation to stick on Obama.
They think Palin can be a victim, but it is not going to work. McCain
can't play "sexism" card because of how he treated Clinton with his own
"Lipstick on a pig" commet about her health care plan. John McCain has
said it 4 times in the last year and a half. Megan his daughter says he
says it all the time. McCain's "Lipstick on a Pig" game makes peole sick
and tired of politics.
Enough is enough" says Obama. McCain loses today because of this
Lipstick Cry, These Crocodile Tears are beyond belief.
McCain politiced 911 with those pictures at the RNC to terrorize us with
it like using the terrorism will make peole vote for him.
Rachel Maddow showed a picture of McCain boarding a yacht on his
birthday August 29th 2 years ago. Welcomng him aboard was a Italian
playboy con man and his movie star celebrity girlfriend. Rachel said
McCain was there because they shared the same Washington Lobbyist. This
con man pled guilty today for something he did and is facing 5 years in
prison.
Sarah Palin has an e-mail scandal. There are 1,100 hidden e-mails that
they will not release. But they have to because not all of them are
confidential policy matters and she CC'd them to her husband, citizen
Todd, so she should be forced to reveal them, as they are part of
investigating her wrong doings.
There's a new group "Alaska Mythbusters" who will set the record
straight on Sarah Palin.
The deficit is now at 407 billions dollars. Blame the Republicans.
3rd Party candidates will hurt McCain. Ron Paul will not support McCain
because he says then the 2 or 3 million who voted for him would be mad.
But Hillary supports Obama and she got 18 million people to vote for
her. Bob Barr hurts McCain, too.
Sarah Palin RAISED TAXES as a mayor (for a skating rink) and as a
govenor.
Sarah Palin is for hacking wolves = animal abuse.
The Dept. of Interior has a sex and drugs scandal. It's some kind of sex
for oil deal. Mary J is included.
McCain is shameful and perverse because of the LIE about Obama having a
bill about sex education for kindergardners. When in reality it was a
bill to protect kids not to corrupt them
Obama is no longer discouraging 527's anymore. So they are free to go.
Go get 'em.
Today's Worst Person in the World is Rick Goddard. He said Newt Gingrich
was talking about an Uppidy Person (not what Newt said, but what this
Rick guy said he was). It's a Racist comment beause the guy talked about
is African Amerian.
McCain says he knows how to capture Osama Bin Laden, but he hasn't done
it. Therefore he is a Do Nothing and he is aiding and abetting Osama Bin
Laden to stay free since he knows how to capture him.
These are today's news, and they say vote for Obama.
u...@bigfoot.com (ujb)
hahahaha lol MavCain and MavPalin in '08
Pat: I exposed their sin and you laugh and show your suport for them.
You are no righteous person. You are on the side of sin. In this the
children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does
not practice righteousness is not of God... - 1 John 3:10.
CB
wrote:
>It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
>to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
Are you one of those who spat on our troops when they came home from
Viet Nam?
You are a hypocrite: preaching Christianity while full of hatred.
But there are plenty of your ilk around.
Rod
I agree with you Patrick, there is a time to fight and
in conservative americas case a time to steal other peoples
natural resources.
We're in the stealing resources period, and thieves don't
like being caught !
Rod
<Kelly>
> I bet if I told you I was spit on when I came home from the
> military, you'd say I deserved it!
I'd just say you were lying.
Mike Painter
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:02:06 -0500, ujb <u...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> Š 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> Pat H wrote:
>>> UJB:
>>> your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're
>>> not a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
>>> Pat: You are full of sin.
>>>
>>> no pat, ujb is one righteous dude
>>>
>>> Pat: It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it
>>> righteous to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
>>
>> chapter and verse for the "vote", and please show any false
>> accusations if you would.
>
> plentiful than Elaine's!
>
> All anyone needs to do to document your THOUSANDS of false
> accusations is to check Google.
>
Something that can't be done with John because he is afraid people will use
it against him.
Which of course they will.
Robibnikoff
"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> screeched:
> ^ ^ ^ ^ Jimmy the Geek, your false accusations are even more
> plentiful than Elaine's!
Oh wah. Would you like some cheese with your whine, johnnie?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
If you can't be a good example....
You'll just have to be a horrible warning.
walksalone
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Subject: Re: Who Goes to the - UJB
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> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:36:34 -0500, CB <count...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:05:10 -0700, thewayt...@webtv.net (Pat H)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
>>>to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
>>
>>Are you one of those who spat on our troops when they came home from
>>Viet Nam?
>
> ^ ^ ^ ^ Interesting comment from YOU, CB.
Not really, just a comment seeking information.
> I bet if I told you I was spit on when I came home from the
> military, you'd say I deserved it!
If he was aware of US Military discharge regulations from that time
period, he would call you a liar. You had disgraced teh uniform, &
would have returned to civilian life without one piece of military
clothing or equipment. IOW, there would have been no reason for anyone
to think of you as a returning serviceman. But then, you still don't
know that.
> john w
The world class lair john w, yes, that I can believe.
which wannabe this time johnniee, the child still trying to play the *I
was rejected when I returned from the war* card?
walksalone who wonders, when, if ever, will dumb john realise, there are
people on usenet who do know abut the military because they served.
Even if it appears he did not, it could be a case of his fantasing
mixing up his few memorys from that long ago. Some drugs do affect the
short term memory, & any glory he thinks he has he will try to relive
everyday.
"Drafted" into the Air Force? "I was sent off to war"? (as claimed by
John W) 18 Aug 2003
>I never asserted that you did write that you "fought in Viet Nam." But
>you did write and post the words, "I was drafted into the Viet Nam war
>in the late 60s," now didn't you?
>
When this person can ask nicely, without accusing me, there are
simple answers. However, I'm getting tired of the attitude, and I owe
this person precisely NOTHING. However, I also am VERY aware, that no
matter WHAT I say, this is one individual who won't accept my answer.
So my answer is to not answer.
John W
>How are we to interpret your words: "I was drafted into the Viet Nam
>war in the late 60s"? You implied that you were drafted for service in
>the Vietnam war. But we know that is not exactly and precisely true,
>don't we, Mr John W.? We know that a much closer approximation of the
>truth is that you may or may not have been classified I-A by your local
>draft board. But in any, case, the Air Force did not draft anyone "in
>the late 60s," now did it? (Before you obfuscate or lie, remember that
>this is a matter of puiblic record and is readily checked.) Ergo, you
>enlisted, quite voluntarily, into the Air Force for an active duty
>commitment of six years, four of which years involved an enlistment to
>serve on active duty. Your serial number did include the letters "FR"
>and that is what appeared on your green DD Form 2AF (active), right, Mr
>John W.? Why don't you tell us all what those letters FR signified, Mr
>John W.? (Again, this is easily checked.. Matters of very public
>record. And I live quite close to the Record Center and I don't mind
>the drive. They won't tell me much about you, but the Recond Center
>will tell me whether or not you were on active duty and what branch and
>whether or not you were regular, active reseve, inactive reserve, or
>Air Guard.) Since the Air Force policy was not to send anyone (with a
>few exceptions, but the field maintenance Air Force Specialty Codes
>were not among these, were they?) to Vietnam until they had attained
>their 5 skill level, and you served for roughly two years in the UK,
>you did not have sufficient time for a tour in Vietnam. Did you? I
>rather doubt you even entered or passed through PACAF, did you?
>
>You quite probably served your country honorably and well in the
>capacity where the "needs of the government" were fulfilled as attested
>to by your honorable discharge. Why exaggerate? Mechanics and
>maintenace specialists are a necessary part of any modern military
>organization. Why imply, even slightly, service you did not perform?
>
>> John W
ujb
> x-no-archive: yes
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:02:06 -0500, ujb <u...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> Š 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> UJB:
>>> your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're not
>>> a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
>>> Pat: You are full of sin.
>>>
>>> no pat, ujb is one righteous dude
>>>
>>> Pat: It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
>>> to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
>> chapter and verse for the "vote", and please show any false accusations
>> if you would.
>
> plentiful than Elaine's!
is that the same person you have yet to show a lie from?
> All anyone needs to do to document your THOUSANDS of false
> accusations is to check Google.
ok stupid, i'm asking you to do the "google"...
> Did you get your star yet?
ask baby johnnie, i got me i on him 2 u no! hahahahaha lol
> I'm thinking prison STRIPES or a
mess with sweet sweet and someone might end up in stripes! lol
> strap-on jacket are more suitable to you!
"strap-on", oh papa porn, a "strap-on"! hahahah i'm not your sister...
suny
--
*talk is cheap - until you hire a lawyer to do it for you...*
ujb
> x-no-archive: yes
> Š 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
>>> to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
>> Are you one of those who spat on our troops when they came home from
>> Viet Nam?
>
>
> military, you'd say I deserved it!
i'd say, "another lie papa porn"
ujb
yes, papa porn is a coward, but i'm sure he'll excuse it as just another
family trait, it's like incest, runs in the family... hahaha
DOC
>
>
> ^ ^ ^ ^ Jimmy the Geek, your false accusations are even more
>plentiful than Elaine's!
>
Hy, SHORT BUS! Post ONE false accusation either of us has made. YOUR
problem is, you can't because neither of us posted any.
> All anyone needs to do to document your THOUSANDS of false
>accusations is to check Google.
>
Sure, short bus --- yet YOU cannot even find ONE. Why? Because none
were ever posted.
> Did you get your star yet? I'm thinking prison STRIPES or a
>strap-on jacket are more suitable to you!
>
> john w
Dream on, idiot. If ANYONE could well end up in crowbar hotel, it
would be you, so watch it.
You've already been forced to apologize to this group --- will you
have to lose your connectivity next?
Some fools never learn...
DOC
>
> I bet if I told you I was spit on when I came home from the
>military, you'd say I deserved it!
>
> john w
You mean WHEN YOU GOT THE BOOT-ASS DROP KICK FROM the Miliary, short
bus.
Tell the truth. Lying may be your specialty, but it won't wash here.
DOC
That be why so many o us archive short bus's posts B$ they get
wiped....... then the old creep has no argument over 'I did NOT say
that!"
DOC
>john w <j wrote:
>> x-no-archive: DISHONORED -- just like his (cough) 'military record'!
>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:02:06 -0500, ujb <u...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> © 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> Pat H wrote:
>>>> UJB:
>>>> your thinking is as flawed as your preaching. please tell us you're not
>>>> a Baptist preacher, wanting a democratic Spiro Agnew...
>>>> Pat: You are full of sin.
>>>>
>>>> no pat, ujb is one righteous dude
>>>>
>>>> Pat: It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
>>>> to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
>>> chapter and verse for the "vote", and please show any false accusations
>>> if you would.
>>
>> ^ ^ ^ ^ Jimmy the Geek, your false accusations are even more
>> plentiful than Elaine's!
>
>is that the same person you have yet to show a lie from?
>
That be our little short bus johnnie, Ujie! He also tries to firget
'Sweet-Sweet knows ALL' about him, and it bugs the hell out of him
knowing you do! :+D
>> All anyone needs to do to document your THOUSANDS of false
>> accusations is to check Google.
>
>ok stupid, i'm asking you to do the "google"...
>
Don't hold yer breath! :+D
>> Did you get your star yet?
>
>ask baby johnnie, i got me i on him 2 u no! hahahahaha lol
>
>> I'm thinking prison STRIPES or a
>
>mess with sweet sweet and someone might end up in stripes! lol
>
>> strap-on jacket are more suitable to you!
>
>"strap-on", oh papa porn, a "strap-on"! hahahah i'm not your sister...
>suny
Leave it to sex-obsessed narcissist johnnie to even think of sex with
a straight jacket... what an idiot.
CB
>x-no-archive: yes
>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:36:34 -0500, CB <count...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> © 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:05:10 -0700, thewayt...@webtv.net (Pat H)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>It is not righteous to make false accusations, nor is it righteous
>>>to vote for John McCain, the war monger.
>>
>>Are you one of those who spat on our troops when they came home from
>>Viet Nam?
>
> ^ ^ ^ ^ Interesting comment from YOU, CB.
>
> I bet if I told you I was spit on when I came home from the
>military, you'd say I deserved it!
I don't believe you were spat upon.
Knowing what a coward you are, I'm sure you were visiting a church
that didn't exist instead of serving in Viet Nam.
>
> john w