Jewish Women
Pastor Dave
Now in order to understand the humor here, you must
understand the Jewish culture and especially Jewish
women. If you do, you will find this very funny! :)
Now I'm sure that Vera will respond and claim that
I'm an Anti-Semite and that I hate Jews, but since
Vera is an "Anti-Gentite", even though she's not
Jewish (she simply worships them) and since I have
her kill filed, it won't bother me any. :)
Besides, remember, I was only the messenger and
even Jewish women, who aren't fear mongerers
who think that the world is out to get them, do find
this funny. :)
Anyway... :)
Jewish Women:
1) The Harvard School of Medicine did a study of why
Jewish women like Chinese food so much. The study
revealed that this is due to the fact that "Won Ton"
spelled backward is "Not Now".
2) There is a big controversy on the Jewish view of when
life begins. In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not
considered viable until it graduates from medical school.
3) Q: Why don't Jewish mothers drink?
A: Alcohol interferes with their suffering.
4) Q: Have you seen the newest Jewish-American-Princess
horror movie?
A: It's called "Debbie Does Dishes".
5) Q: Why do Jewish mothers make great parole officers?
A: They never let anyone finish a sentence.
6) Q: What's a Jewish American Princess's favorite position?
A: Facing Bloomingdale's.
7) When the doctor called Mrs. Liebenbaum to tell her that
her check came back , she replied, "So did my arthritis".
8) A man called his mother in Florida, "Mom, how are you?".
"Not too good," said the mother. "I've been very weak.".
The son said, "Why are you so weak?". She said,
"Because I haven't eaten in 38 days.". The son said,
"That's terrible! Why haven't you eaten in 38 days?".
The mother answered, "Because I didn't want my mouth
to be filled with food if you should call.".
9) A Jewish boy comes home from school and tells his mother
he has a part in the play. She asks, "What part is it?.
The boy says,"I play the part of the Jewish husband.".
The mother scowls and says, "Go back and tell the teacher
you want a speaking part!".
10) Q: How many Jewish mothers does it take to change
a light bulb?
A: <Sigh!> Don't bother! I'll sit in the dark.
I don't want to be a nuisance to anybody!
11) Short summary of every Jewish holiday: They tried
to kill us, we won, let's eat.
12) Did you hear about the bum who walked up to
a Jewish mother on the street and said, "Lady
I haven't eaten in three days." "Force yourself",
she replied.
13) Q: What's the difference between a Rottweiler
and a Jewish mother?
A: Eventually, the Rottweiler lets go.
14) Jewish telegram: "Begin worrying. Details to follow."
15) Q: Why are Jewish Men circumcised?
A: Because Jewish women don't like anything
that isn't 20 % off.
--
Money isn't everything. But it keeps the kids in touch.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
<Kelly>
> Now in order to understand the humor here, you must
> understand the Jewish culture and especially Jewish
> women. If you do, you will find this very funny! :)
As a non-Jew, how is it, exactly, that you figure you "understand the
Jewish culture and especially Jewish women"? I also have to wonder
*why* you posted this.
Any answers?
Randy ®
in article <mfos74p5jprnaqfqf...@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Now in order to understand the humor here, you must
>understand the Jewish culture and especially Jewish
>women. If you do, you will find this very funny! :)
>
>Now I'm sure that Vera will respond and claim that
>I'm an Anti-Semite and that I hate Jews, but since
>Vera is an "Anti-Gentite", even though she's not
>Jewish (she simply worships them) and since I have
>her kill filed, it won't bother me any. :)
>
>Besides, remember, I was only the messenger and
>even Jewish women, who aren't fear mongerers
>who think that the world is out to get them, do find
>this funny. :)
>
>Anyway... :)
First of all, notice that you launch an attack on Vera, based
on the unprovoked assumption she'll respond to your post the
way you claimed.
Second, I believe you are anti-semitic, in that you insist
they were permanently rejected by God, and have no right to
the promises God made them, including the land. Thus, you
play right in to the hands of all the Arabs who _are_ seeking
their annihilation, and you try to rob them of the inheritance
and blessings God has made on an unconditional basis.
1) Christ is the "seed" who is the rightful heir of the
Abrahamic promises to both the Jews and Gentiles (Galatians
3). He therefore has every right to sin on the throne, in
Jerusalem, as their king.
2) Chastisement does not eliminate the promise, but confirms
Israel is the rightful heir (cf. Heb. 12; Jer. 30-33).
3) An "everlasting" promise cannot be fulfilled, then done
away with at a point in time. The Abrahamic, Palestinian, and
Davidic covenants are "everlasting" covenants, to continue as
long as the present heavens and earth (Jer. 30-33). Contending
you can give someone an everlasting promise, then take it away
because you already fulfilled it when you gave it to them in
the first place, is tantamount to claiming you can get saved
and have eternal life, but then have it taken away at a point
in time, because the promise was already fulfilled.
©2008 pulpitfire.com, pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org
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Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Terry Cross
It comes as no surprise that Jewish women are so strident and vocal
concerning Feminism. Jewish women are among the most oppressed people
on the face of the planet. Read Mosaic law to confirm. Even their
menstrual periods are a "sin."
TCross
cactus
Terry / Carol, which millennium are you living in?
<Kelly>
> It comes as no surprise that Jewish women are so strident and vocal
> concerning Feminism.
Really? And you know this because...?
> Jewish women are among the most oppressed people
> on the face of the planet.
Snore. If they were the "most oppressed people on the face of the
planet, they wouldn't be "so strident and vocal concerning Feminism.",
would they?
> Read Mosaic law to confirm.
Only read it if you can understand it. You obviously don't understand
it.
> Even their
> menstrual periods are a "sin."
That's a popular belief amongst non-Jews, and totally untrue.
cactus
Terry / Carol is an antisemitic bigot who flaunts her ignorance at every
opportunity.
<Kelly>
> Terry / Carol is an antisemitic bigot who flaunts her ignorance at every
> opportunity.
Yes, I thought I recognized the name.
cactus
colp
"He's not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy".
"Are you a virgin?"
"Piss off"
"She is, she is!"
Terry Cross
The same century you are. Women cannot yet initiate divorce in
Israel, nor fight for support when their masters divorce them. They
are as slaves who cannot leave a cruel master, nor resist the loss of
a husband they would keep.
They have only the wretched "kethuba", the bridal price when they are
sold into slavery to their husbands. When they are dismissed from
sexual servitude, they are permitted to keep the price of the
purchase.
TCross
TCross
Terry Cross
> On Jul 17, 4:36 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It comes as no surprise that Jewish women are so strident and vocal
> > concerning Feminism.
>
> Really? And you know this because...?
Look at this list of famous feminists in America. Most of them has
received the American Jewish Committee Award for Distinguished Jewish
American and Israeli Feminists:
Betty Friedan
Gloria Steinem
Jacqueline Levine
Esther Broner
Phyllis Chesler
Elizabeth Holtzman
Bella Abzug
Blu Greenberg
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Virginia Snitow
Letty Cottin Pogrebin
Francine Klagsbrun
Lilly Rivlin
Susan Weidman Schneider
TCross
Van
Disgusting... I didnt even read it all I nearly threw up, In America
you call yourselves the melding pot because you're so diverse,
BULLSHIT! I've never met a more hateful, bigoted, angry at the world
group of people! In Germany we have Large populations of Christians ,
Jews and Muslims who are common in all neighborhoods and walks of
life, some neighborhoods in Amerika cost so much.
<Kelly>
> The same century you are.
You may be in the same century, but you don't know bupkes about
Judaism and Mosaic Law.
> Women cannot yet initiate divorce in
> Israel, nor fight for support when their masters divorce them.
Yep. That's their law. Judges in Israel are all ultra-Orthodox
rabbis - it's the way it's been for centuries. Israel is a very
religious and God-fearing country - from the ultra-Orthodox to the
common man who doesn't even go to synagogue anymore. As far as
divorce from the woman's perspective, here's something from Wikipedia:
"Since under Jewish law, a divorce Get must be delivered by the
husband to the wife voluntarily, husband are known to hijack the
wives' property unless their financial or other demands are met. Women
whose husbands refuse to deliver a Get or who have disappeared without
a trace are called Agunot, they can not remarry, and this status may
last for decades."
So, as you see above, Israeli divorce procedure is not as anti-woman
as you would like to portray it.
> They
> are as slaves who cannot leave a cruel master,
Hate men, do ya?
> They have only the wretched "kethuba", the bridal price when they are
> sold into slavery to their husbands. When they are dismissed from
> sexual servitude, they are permitted to keep the price of the
> purchase.
Oh, baloney. Once again, you know nothing about Judaism or Mosaic Law.
<Kelly>
Amazing. You complain in one part of this thread about women not
being able to get their own divorces in Israel and that the Ketubah is
equivalent to "being sold at a price" to their husband - then here you
contradict yourself and gripe about Jewish feminists.
Go figure.
cactus
Most people in the USA get along as well as could be expected. Terry
Cross / Carol Valentine is the exception, an antisemitic, lying loki who
spreads her hateful lies wherever she can. Don't judge everyone by her
bigotry. She is very much the exception here.
cactus
This is typical of Terry Cross/Carol Valentine. She is an antisemitic
bigot and loki who loses no opportunity to spread lies about Jews and
Judaism. Inconsistency, lies and hypocrisy are her tools and she uses
them in virtually all of her posts.
Robibnikoff
"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> babbled:
>
> Being DEAD isn't a sin, but if a Jew found himself / herself --
> without even intending it, in the presence of a dead body (a relative
> keels over and dies during a meal), the Jew became ceremonially
> unclean having been in the presence of DEATH, and had to be
> ceremonially CLEANSED. I don't recall the ritual for cleanliness after
> being "among the dead," but it was cumbersome and inconvenient.
Sounds like a load of bullshit you made up, short bus. Unless there's some
obscure Orthodox ceremony that only you're aware of, this came straight out
of your imagination. A quick search on the Net turned up this:
"All those present at the funeral must wash their hands afterward. There is
an emphasis on life since one has just come in contact with the dead. This
is like a purification process."
Wow! Washing your hands is really cumbersome and inconvenient, isn't it.
Well, maybe it is for you, short bus.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
If you can't be a good example....
You'll just have to be a horrible warning.
Randy ®
in article <ep6j84tn7se106tbe...@4ax.com>,
john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>3). He therefore has every right to sin on the throne, in
>>Jerusalem, as their king.
>
> Randy, I believe you meant:
>
>>3). He therefore has every right to siT on the throne, in
>>Jerusalem, as their King.
Correct.
walksalone
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> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:36:16 -0700 (PDT), Terry Cross
> <tcro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Jul 16, 3:12 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
snip
>>It comes as no surprise that Jewish women are so strident and vocal
>>concerning Feminism. Jewish women are among the most oppressed people
>>on the face of the planet. Read Mosaic law to confirm. Even their
>>menstrual periods are a "sin."
>>
> Their menstrual periods weren't a "sin." Their menstrual blood--
> being dead-- rendered them ceremonially UNCLEAN.
>
> Being DEAD isn't a sin, but if a Jew found himself / herself --
> without even intending it, in the presence of a dead body (a relative
> keels over and dies during a meal), the Jew became ceremonially
& you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about. No shock there,
just routine for you. The Jew became dead & their last rites would be
preformed. You don't even know the reasons the Jewish culture conciders
the dead unclean.
> unclean having been in the presence of DEATH, and had to be
Nothing like it, it has cultural roots & was one of the ways the Judaic
society pretended it was god's chosen people.
You see, at one time, the Judaic's actually grieved for their dead, up to &
including scarification of themselves. The scarification had a purpose, it
was to convince the dead person that the living was in worse shape, & the
dead person would leave them alone & continue their journey to sheol. The
receptical of all life, eventually.
> ceremonially CLEANSED. I don't recall the ritual for cleanliness after
> being "among the dead," but it was cumbersome and inconvenient.
It's hard to recall what you have never read or heard, but what's one more
lie from you?
Anyone really want to know about the dead in ancient Judea can read [this
excludes you jw, you wouldn't understand the terms & lack the vocabulary]
can get a copy of Israel's Beneficent Dead by Brtian B. Schmidt, ISBN
1575060086.
Or they can start with Amos 6:7 & do a lot of reading, without the Cliff
Notes.
>>TCross
which wannabe this time little johnnie, the great pretender that assumes he
has fooled everyone just because it fools itself by claiming to be a
scholar™?
walksalone who does not mind jonnie lying about what he thinks he knows,
after all, on occasion I have to reach for a book to refresh my
recollection of what was said & meant, instead of what jonnie claims was
said & meant. History & cultural context are not friends of the liars like
jonnie. Is anyone?
Thanks. At least when I use hurtful words, it's not normally intended.
And I've told Phar Lap and some others, when they stop hounding me
with daily, post to post evil words, I'll stop fighting back.
John W
NOSPAM
>
> Also, Randy, I believe I owe you an apology. I wrote a comment to
>you awhile back that was less than friendly, less than nice.
>
> I apologize.
Very good.
Now don't retract this apology.
NOSPAM
<witc...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>
>Wow! Washing your hands is really cumbersome and inconvenient, isn't it.
>Well, maybe it is for you, short bus.
Please forgive poor little johnnie, Robyn. He has not yet mastered
that skill, despite repetitive instruction in this regard.
Terry Cross
I get along quite nicely, thank you.
> an antisemitic,
The word is "antiseptic." Do learn to spell.
> lying loki who
> spreads her hateful lies wherever she can.
You will get nothing but the truth from this source.
TCross
Van
> x-no-archive: yes
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:30:44 -0700 (PDT), Van <evan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> © 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
> describe his view of "old world Judaism."
>
> I've never met a more hateful, bigoted, angry at the world
>
> >group of people! In Germany we have Large populations of Christians ,
> >Jews and Muslims who are common in all neighborhoods and walks of
> >life, some neighborhoods in Amerika cost so much.
> He wasn't describing modern day America. He was attempting to
> describe his view of "old world Judaism."
no, I can assure you I was refering to Amerika.
Van
your words betray your illiteracy... the word is anti-semitic, meaning
anti-jew. antiseptic refers to an anti septic tank...
"do learn to spell" Englisch is my second language and I speak it
better than you haha oh the irony!
Terry Cross
> On Jul 19, 6:20 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The same century you are.
>
> You may be in the same century, but you don't know bupkes about
> Judaism and Mosaic Law.
>
> > Women cannot yet initiate divorce in
> > Israel, nor fight for support when their masters divorce them.
>
> Yep. That's their law. Judges in Israel are all ultra-Orthodox
> rabbis - it's the way it's been for centuries.
Since you agree with me, ... ?
> Israel is a very
> religious and God-fearing country - from the ultra-Orthodox to the
> common man who doesn't even go to synagogue anymore. As far as
> divorce from the woman's perspective, here's something from Wikipedia:
>
> "Since under Jewish law, a divorce Get must be delivered by the
> husband to the wife voluntarily, husband are known to hijack the
> wives' property unless their financial or other demands are met. Women
> whose husbands refuse to deliver a Get or who have disappeared without
> a trace are called Agunot, they can not remarry, and this status may
> last for decades."
>
> So, as you see above, Israeli divorce procedure is not as anti-woman
> as you would like to portray it.
It is exactly as anti-woman as I have portrayed it. If you think that
is justice and equality, perhaps you would endorse slavery, too.
> > They
> > are as slaves who cannot leave a cruel master,
>
> Hate men, do ya?
I hate injustice and inequality. Cactus says that makes me
"antisemitic." We agree on a lot.
> > They have only the wretched "kethuba", the bridal price when they are
> > sold into slavery to their husbands. When they are dismissed from
> > sexual servitude, they are permitted to keep the price of the
> > purchase.
>
> Oh, baloney. Once again, you know nothing about Judaism or Mosaic Law.
If you knew different, you would so say. My facts stand.
TCross
Terry Cross
> On Jul 17, 4:36 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It comes as no surprise that Jewish women are so strident and vocal
> > concerning Feminism.
>
> Really? And you know this because...?
>
> > Jewish women are among the most oppressed people
> > on the face of the planet.
>
> Snore. If they were the "most oppressed people on the face of the
> planet, they wouldn't be "so strident and vocal concerning Feminism.",
> would they?
The Russian Revolution didn't happen in Switzerland. Think about it.
TCross
<Kelly>
I see alot of opinion and semantic games, no verifiable facts.
Terry Cross
That is not a gripe. I point out that those women are the oppressed
minority - Jewish women They are oppressed by Jewish religious
culture/law and all they know of relations between the sexes is
Jewish.
In a way, they are like Sigmund Freud. Freud mapped out the insanity
and neurosis of the human mind - the Jewish human mind. Much of his
work was introspective.
Neither the feminists nor Freud realized they were battling personal
and micro-cultural prisons.
TCross
Terry Cross
The word "antiseptic" refers to an agent that destroys germs.
> "do learn to spell" Englisch is my second language
Maybe you should consider retreading that ESL course.
TCross
<Kelly>
> That is not a gripe. I point out that those women are the oppressed
> minority - Jewish women They are oppressed by Jewish religious
> culture/law and all they know of relations between the sexes is
> Jewish.
>
> In a way, they are like Sigmund Freud. Freud mapped out the insanity
> and neurosis of the human mind - the Jewish human mind. Much of his
> work was introspective.
>
> Neither the feminists nor Freud realized they were battling personal
> and micro-cultural prisons.
But you do, huh?
IMO, you're really not worth responding to. Seriously, you should
take it somewhere else - I'm not interested in getting into a
pointless debate with someone so bigoted and close-minded. Especially
an avowed and tunnel-visioned anti-Semite.
Terry Cross
> On Jul 30, 11:37 pm, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That is not a gripe. I point out that those women are the oppressed
> > minority - Jewish women They are oppressed by Jewish religious
> > culture/law and all they know of relations between the sexes is
> > Jewish.
>
> > In a way, they are like Sigmund Freud. Freud mapped out the insanity
> > and neurosis of the human mind - the Jewish human mind. Much of his
> > work was introspective.
>
> > Neither the feminists nor Freud realized they were battling personal
> > and micro-cultural prisons.
>
> But you do, huh?
>
> IMO, you're really not worth responding to.
So you write a response to tell me I am not worthy of response. And
you end your sentence with a preposition. This IS a heavy
intellectual crowd.
> Seriously, you should
> take it somewhere else - I'm not interested in getting into a
> pointless debate with someone so bigoted and close-minded. Especially
> an avowed and tunnel-visioned anti-Semite.
What's it like never to hear any disagreements, bub? You filter
everything so you hear only praise, never the blame?
Here's what the experts say about Judaism:
http://daatemet.com/articles/article.cfm?article_id=120
You should know that the status of women in modern Judaism is somewhat
similar to the status of slaves in 19th century United States. The law
did not force any slave-owner to abuse his slaves, but there also was
no legal barrier to abusive acts. Decent people treated their slaves
decently and evil owners abused their slaves. In any case, the slave
had no written and actual legal recourse to protect him. Though
certainly the majority of Jewish men are decent, women still have no
Halachic protection against the evil ones. Thus Halacha falls far
short of enlightened secular law which protects the status of women
and her rights.
A woman's obligations to her husband--Maimonides wrote in Laws of
Interpersonal Relations, chapter 12, halacha three: "And the four
things he gets are all determined by Rabbinic legislation: her work is
his, what she finds belongs to him, he eats the produce [profits] of
all her property as long as she lives, and if she dies during his
lifetime he inherits from her, and he is first among all who might
inherit from her." According to the Raabad, it is the Torah's law that
the husband inherits from the wife, as he wrote: "I say that the
husband's right to inherit is from the Torah." There is no need to say
that if the husband dies the wife does not inherit from him--see
below!
We thus conclude form the Sages' regulations: a married woman has no
property or money of her own, and therefore they said in Bava Kama
87a: "A slave and a women who harmed other are not liable." (They have
nothing with which to pay. If the woman is divorced or the slave freed
and they bought property, they must pay, for they are, in principle,
obligated to pay, but they simply have nothing with which to pay. A
husband has a lien on his wife's property and benefits from her
property as well as inherits it -- Rashi.)
Therefore the Shulchan Aruch (Yoreh Deah paragraph 248, section four)
ruled that one should not accept charity from a woman: "The charity
sexton accepts nothing from women, servants, or infants but a
pittance, and nothing big, which is to be considered stolen from
others [for it is impossible for a woman to have her own property or
belongings unless she stole them…]."
The author, Mr. Yadin, is an ordained Orthodox rabbi.
TCross
Terry Cross
Your visual disabilities are not the concern of this newsgroup.
TCross