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Susan Williams

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Jan 13, 2003, 2:45:45 AM1/13/03
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On 12 Jan 2003 19:59:50 -0800, aki...@hotmail.com (kikers) wrote:

>Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<0ga12v80dtp3uu0a8...@4ax.com>...
>> After much time refusing to condemn the most hateful document known to
>> man called the Jesiut Oath, Kikers finally claims that he denounces
>> it. Even then he has to twist falsify his intentions to justify the
>> institution that created the document since he has always shown he is
>> a faithful respecter of it:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 Jan 2003 12:14:37 -0800, aki...@hotmail.com (kikers) wrote:
>>
>> >Yes, she condemend it, but she also said it was fake. I can do that.
>> >I can condemn the Tooth Fairy, so what? The Tooth Fairy is fake.
>>
>> I can condemn the Ustashis. So what!
>
>Ustashis aren't fake. You can condemn something that isn't fake.

Did any of you sinister lying Vatican killers condemn Foxe's Book of
Martyrs? Why haven't you explained why it is true then?

>>I can condemn the man who
>> condemned all non-Catholics to persecution and death because of his
>> monstrous hate. SO WHAT!!
>
>He's not fake either, you're getting the hang of it.

Did you get the hang of condemning Foxe's Book of Martyrs, Vatican
killer? You know when you are eternally damned, even hearing aids
won't work so well!!

Are Ellen White's works fake? Have you commented against them?

>> >She called it:
>> >
>> >; a fiction penned by a Protestant in the
>> >> >> >19th century.
>> >> >> >
>> >
>> >I've made the statement below many times (not in as many words).
>>
>> You have sent many posts, but your overwhelming burden was to destroy
>> anyone who would attack that Oath or those who obeyed it to the full.
>
>SLL

But you still have sent many posts, but your overwhelming burden is to
destroy anyone who would attack the Jesuit Oath or anyone who obeys it
to the full!

>> You were so preoccupied with defending atrocities
>
>Never defended atrocities
>
> and usenet posting,
>
>Never did this either.

You were shown atrocities done by the Ustashis that made the Nazis
shudder. You shuddered that people revealed and condemned those
actions ONLY claiming that to reveal them is to hate the Catholic
people!

>> you concluded that all who disagreed with you needed mental help!!
>
>Never did this.

But you still concluded that lal who disagreed with you needed mental
help. Even people who also did this were all around you. You didn't
see the need to correct them, but you leech onto one in order to
address some emergency!

>> >> >> >We further denounce the actions of the Ustashis against the Serbs as one
>> >> >> >of the great tragedies of the last century. We aknowledge that any
>> >> >> >Vatican connection with the Ustashis was morally wrong.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >We give these responses meant to be a full denunciation, without
>> >> >> >reservation, of both of the subjects above.
>> >
>> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Therefore, to prevent error, no Catholic in good standing may read the
>> >> >> >Jesuit oath or the Grizingo letter, lest they mistake these as
>> >> >> >acceptable behaviour for Catholics.
>> >>
>> >DISAGREE. Simple Catholic upbringing is all that is neeed to know
>> >that these documents do not repreent the teachings of the Church.
>>
>> Was it Catholic training that would make Catholics waste manhours
>> posting against cross-posts, wasting bandwidth, name-calling, etc.
>> against someone who condemns these documents?
>
>Yep. If the docs are fake, where is the waste?

When you killers condemned Foxe's Book of Martyrs. Yet you still claim
it is fake, and therefore your temporary career at lying is still
confirmed!!

>> Was it Catholic
>> training that makes those who expose its supreme hate have to pull
>> teeth to get Catholic psychiatrists to understand that its issue is
>> much worse than condemning it?
>
>Pulling teeth. Resurrecting Salem Witch trials are we?

Yes, but was it Catholic training that makes those woh expose the
Jesuit Oath's supreme hate have to pull teeth to get Catholic
psychiatrists to understand that its issue is much worse than
condemning such hate? Much worse than plagiarism? And Ted Seeber
condemning all non-Catholics just a year ago on the newsgroups prove
that this issue is still in our faces?

>> Was it Catholic training that makes
>> those Catholics who claim to hate usenet disrespect
>
>Glad you admit you were disrespectful.

I said Catholics who CLAIM to hate disrespect. I wasn't agreeing with
Vatican despots.

>> to crosspost,
>> waste bandwidth with hateful one liner remarks, flood, accuse, condemn
>> and name-call?
>
>Never called you a name (except anti-intellectual which I feel is an
>accurate descriptor in any case).

But I'm more intelligent to know about your claim that anything false
or fake needs no comment. That would include Ellen White!!

I'm just trying to more demonstrate unchanging Rome to the world and
the fruit of her training.

>> >The
>> >Jesuit oath should be read to understand the impact of historical
>> >forgery in slandering an entire group of people, just as the Protocols
>> >of the Elders of Zion was used as a "basis" to bash Jews.
>>
>> FALSE!! And here we see again that this poster is indeed another
>> monster who agrees totally with the Jesiut Oath!!
>>
>How?

Now the damned despot who always tells us what we have to believe has
to ask a question again.

THE JEWS DO NOT EXPOSE THE HOLOCAUST IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE WORLD
FROM ACCUSING ALL GERMANS. That is not the agenda for revealing
atrocities, but is the twisting of the facts by people who would
commit atrocities!

>> The Jews do not expose the Holocaust for the purpose of teaching the
>> world not to bash Germans! Again these Vatican Antichrist
>> psychiatrists cannot but help reveal just a small portion of their
>> impending super-damnation!

>SLL

Yeah, but still, the Jews do not expose the Holocaust forthe purpose
of teaching the world not to bash all Germans! Still, again these
Vatican Antichrist psychiatrists cannot but help reveal just a small
portion oftheir impending super-damnation!!

>> >The
>> >grizongo letter should be studied in order to prevent nationalism from
>> >using religion as a cloak of respectability.
>>
>> And you wondered what Ustashis would think about these issues. Now
>> you know!! The man is just enveloped in protecting the institution
>> that time and time again deals out beliefs that results in atrocities.
>
>Time and time? Why don't you list them. Why let the Ustashis have
>the spotlight all the time.

Maybe when you can figure out why you can't answer questions, you will
be able to figure out why I don't list things.

Hearing constantly that Foxe's book of Martyrs is fake and then watch
it get constantly condemned, we are not supposed to see any
continuation of it with the Ustashis who murdered anything
non-Catholic and conducted forced conversion. Then we were not
supposed to see Ted Seeber condemn Liberty and the US Constitution.
Then we were not supposed to see the man condemn all non-Catholics to
persecution and death. Then we were not supposed to see all these
things happen causing no trouble until Brother Ted reproves the
monster. Then Vatican killers move in to finally show irritation
because Seeber is exposed.

>> Then they come and tell us the institution has nothing to do with it
>> while they ignore a man who condemned all non-Catholics to death, and
>> just attack anyone who exposes him!!

>OHNTDWTO (one has nothing to do with the other.)

I mean just because Seeber has the same beliefs detailed in Foxe's
Book of Martyrs in all the years dealing with blood, and these killers
have the same beliefs, how are we to know that one has nothing to do
with the other especially when the Vatican killer leaves no proof?


In His Grace,


Susan

kikers

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Jan 13, 2003, 9:58:34 PM1/13/03
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Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<vjr42vcia8ql6p7sl...@4ax.com>...

> On 12 Jan 2003 19:59:50 -0800, aki...@hotmail.com (kikers) wrote:
>
> >Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<0ga12v80dtp3uu0a8...@4ax.com>...
> >> After much time refusing to condemn the most hateful document known to
> >> man called the Jesiut Oath, Kikers finally claims that he denounces
> >> it. Even then he has to twist falsify his intentions to justify the
> >> institution that created the document since he has always shown he is
> >> a faithful respecter of it:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11 Jan 2003 12:14:37 -0800, aki...@hotmail.com (kikers) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yes, she condemend it, but she also said it was fake. I can do that.
> >> >I can condemn the Tooth Fairy, so what? The Tooth Fairy is fake.
> >>
> >> I can condemn the Ustashis. So what!
> >
> >Ustashis aren't fake. You can condemn something that isn't fake.
>
> Did any of you sinister lying Vatican killers condemn Foxe's Book of
> Martyrs? Why haven't you explained why it is true then?
>
You mean this Foxe's Book of Martyrs, a description of which reads:

"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."


> >>I can condemn the man who
> >> condemned all non-Catholics to persecution and death because of his
> >> monstrous hate. SO WHAT!!
> >
> >He's not fake either, you're getting the hang of it.
>
> Did you get the hang of condemning Foxe's Book of Martyrs, Vatican
> killer? You know when you are eternally damned, even hearing aids
> won't work so well!!

You mean this Foxe's Book of Martyrs, a description of which reads:

"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."


>
> Are Ellen White's works fake? Have you commented against them?
>

Who is Ellen White. Is she important?

> >> >She called it:
> >> >
> >> >; a fiction penned by a Protestant in the
> >> >> >> >19th century.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I've made the statement below many times (not in as many words).
> >>
> >> You have sent many posts, but your overwhelming burden was to destroy
> >> anyone who would attack that Oath or those who obeyed it to the full.
> >
> >SLL
>
> But you still have sent many posts, but your overwhelming burden is to
> destroy anyone who would attack the Jesuit Oath or anyone who obeys it
> to the full!

SLL. Read your sentence. You say I attack both the enemies and the
supporters of the "oath." Makes no sense (surprise).


>
> >> You were so preoccupied with defending atrocities
> >
> >Never defended atrocities
> >
> > and usenet posting,
> >
> >Never did this either.
>
> You were shown atrocities done by the Ustashis that made the Nazis
> shudder.

And I condemned them.

You shuddered that people revealed and condemned those
> actions ONLY claiming that to reveal them is to hate the Catholic
> people!

Yes, applying a local atrocity to an entire religion is wrong.

>
> >> you concluded that all who disagreed with you needed mental help!!
> >
> >Never did this.
>
> But you still concluded that lal who disagreed with you needed mental
> help.

No I didn't . Who is the deceiver now?

Even people who also did this were all around you. You didn't
> see the need to correct them, but you leech onto one in order to
> address some emergency!

Oh, so I'm supposed to both defend you and defend myself against you?
You call me super damned and then holler when I don't come to your
aid?

>
> >> >> >> >We further denounce the actions of the Ustashis against the Serbs as one
> >> >> >> >of the great tragedies of the last century. We aknowledge that any
> >> >> >> >Vatican connection with the Ustashis was morally wrong.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >We give these responses meant to be a full denunciation, without
> >> >> >> >reservation, of both of the subjects above.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Therefore, to prevent error, no Catholic in good standing may read the
> >> >> >> >Jesuit oath or the Grizingo letter, lest they mistake these as
> >> >> >> >acceptable behaviour for Catholics.
> >> >>
> >> >DISAGREE. Simple Catholic upbringing is all that is neeed to know
> >> >that these documents do not repreent the teachings of the Church.
> >>
> >> Was it Catholic training that would make Catholics waste manhours
> >> posting against cross-posts, wasting bandwidth, name-calling, etc.
> >> against someone who condemns these documents?
> >
> >Yep. If the docs are fake, where is the waste?
>
> When you killers condemned Foxe's Book of Martyrs. Yet you still claim
> it is fake, and therefore your temporary career at lying is still
> confirmed!!
>

You mean this Foxe's Book of Martyrs, a description of which reads:

"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."

> >> Was it Catholic
> >> training that makes those who expose its supreme hate have to pull
> >> teeth to get Catholic psychiatrists to understand that its issue is
> >> much worse than condemning it?
> >
> >Pulling teeth. Resurrecting Salem Witch trials are we?
>
> Yes, but was it Catholic training that makes those woh expose the
> Jesuit Oath's supreme hate have to pull teeth to get Catholic
> psychiatrists to understand that its issue is much worse than
> condemning such hate? Much worse than plagiarism? And Ted Seeber
> condemning all non-Catholics just a year ago on the newsgroups prove
> that this issue is still in our faces?
>
> >> Was it Catholic training that makes
> >> those Catholics who claim to hate usenet disrespect
> >
> >Glad you admit you were disrespectful.
>
> I said Catholics who CLAIM to hate disrespect. I wasn't agreeing with
> Vatican despots.
>
> >> to crosspost,
> >> waste bandwidth with hateful one liner remarks, flood, accuse, condemn
> >> and name-call?
> >
> >Never called you a name (except anti-intellectual which I feel is an
> >accurate descriptor in any case).
>
> But I'm more intelligent to know about your claim that anything false
> or fake needs no comment. That would include Ellen White!!

If Ellen White was fake, then she need no comment.


>
> I'm just trying to more demonstrate unchanging Rome to the world and
> the fruit of her training.

Not working.


>
> >> >The

> >> >Jesuit oath should be read to understand the impact of historical
> >> >forgery in slandering an entire group of people, just as the Protocols
> >> >of the Elders of Zion was used as a "basis" to bash Jews.
> >>
> >> FALSE!! And here we see again that this poster is indeed another
> >> monster who agrees totally with the Jesiut Oath!!
> >>
> >How?
>
> Now the damned despot who always tells us what we have to believe has
> to ask a question again.
>
> THE JEWS DO NOT EXPOSE THE HOLOCAUST IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE WORLD
> FROM ACCUSING ALL GERMANS. That is not the agenda for revealing
> atrocities, but is the twisting of the facts by people who would
> commit atrocities!

Let's see, Nazis kill Jews, Jews expose Nazi atrocities. Ustashis
kill Serbs, Serbs expose Ustashis but you know better than the vicitms
and try to blame all Catholics.

>
> >> The Jews do not expose the Holocaust for the purpose of teaching the
> >> world not to bash Germans! Again these Vatican Antichrist
> >> psychiatrists cannot but help reveal just a small portion of their
> >> impending super-damnation!
>
> >SLL
>
> Yeah, but still, the Jews do not expose the Holocaust forthe purpose
> of teaching the world not to bash all Germans! Still, again these
> Vatican Antichrist psychiatrists cannot but help reveal just a small
> portion oftheir impending super-damnation!!
>
> >> >The
> >> >grizongo letter should be studied in order to prevent nationalism from
> >> >using religion as a cloak of respectability.
> >>
> >> And you wondered what Ustashis would think about these issues. Now
> >> you know!! The man is just enveloped in protecting the institution
> >> that time and time again deals out beliefs that results in atrocities.
> >
> >Time and time? Why don't you list them. Why let the Ustashis have
> >the spotlight all the time.
>
> Maybe when you can figure out why you can't answer questions, you will
> be able to figure out why I don't list things.

I'm answering, you're dodging.

>
> Hearing constantly that Foxe's book of Martyrs is fake

You mean this Foxe's Book of Martyrs, a description of which reads:

"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."

and then watch
> it get constantly condemned, we are not supposed to see any
> continuation of it with the Ustashis who murdered anything
> non-Catholic and conducted forced conversion. Then we were not
> supposed to see Ted Seeber condemn Liberty and the US Constitution.
> Then we were not supposed to see the man condemn all non-Catholics to
> persecution and death. Then we were not supposed to see all these
> things happen causing no trouble until Brother Ted reproves the
> monster. Then Vatican killers move in to finally show irritation
> because Seeber is exposed.
>
> >> Then they come and tell us the institution has nothing to do with it
> >> while they ignore a man who condemned all non-Catholics to death, and
> >> just attack anyone who exposes him!!
>
> >OHNTDWTO (one has nothing to do with the other.)
>
> I mean just because Seeber has the same beliefs detailed in Foxe's
> Book of Martyrs in all the years dealing with blood, and these killers
> have the same beliefs, how are we to know that one has nothing to do
> with the other especially when the Vatican killer leaves no proof?
>

Just like the Puritans. Prove you're not a witch!

>
> In His Grace,
>
>
> Susan

Susan Williams

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Jan 13, 2003, 10:16:35 PM1/13/03
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On 13 Jan 2003 18:58:34 -0800, aki...@hotmail.com (kikers) wrote:

>Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<vjr42vcia8ql6p7sl...@4ax.com>...
>> On 12 Jan 2003 19:59:50 -0800, aki...@hotmail.com (kikers) wrote:
>>
>> >Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<0ga12v80dtp3uu0a8...@4ax.com>...
>> >> After much time refusing to condemn the most hateful document known to
>> >> man called the Jesiut Oath, Kikers finally claims that he denounces
>> >> it. Even then he has to twist falsify his intentions to justify the
>> >> institution that created the document since he has always shown he is
>> >> a faithful respecter of it:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11 Jan 2003 12:14:37 -0800, aki...@hotmail.com (kikers) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Yes, she condemend it, but she also said it was fake. I can do that.
>> >> >I can condemn the Tooth Fairy, so what? The Tooth Fairy is fake.
>> >>
>> >> I can condemn the Ustashis. So what!
>> >
>> >Ustashis aren't fake. You can condemn something that isn't fake.
>>
>> Did any of you sinister lying Vatican killers condemn Foxe's Book of
>> Martyrs? Why haven't you explained why it is true then?
>>
>You mean this Foxe's Book of Martyrs, a description of which reads:
>
>"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
>gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
>paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."


If it said that, why did killers like you condemn it but refused to
condemn the Jesuit Oath???? Because it was fake? Or wasn't it??

You all said it was a lying document and then condemned it as
hateful!!

In His Grace,


Susan

Teresita

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Jan 14, 2003, 9:17:34 AM1/14/03
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In article <1c275ed0.03011...@posting.google.com>, aki...@hotmail.com
says...

>"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
>gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
>paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."

Foxe's Book of Hereticks.

--
Encyclopedia Teresita
http://web.newsguy.com/teresita/

Rob

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Jan 14, 2003, 11:19:33 AM1/14/03
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On 14 Jan 2003 06:17:34 -0800, Teresita <tere...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>In article <1c275ed0.03011...@posting.google.com>, aki...@hotmail.com
>says...
>
>>"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
>>gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
>>paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."
>
>Foxe's Book of Hereticks.

So if they're hereticks, it's okay to kill them, right?

Rob

Teresita

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Jan 14, 2003, 12:34:35 PM1/14/03
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In article <64e82vgft4url2ad2...@4ax.com>, Rob says...

It's OK to kill your fellowship with them. Titus 3:10.

Rob

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Jan 14, 2003, 6:30:30 PM1/14/03
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But in Foxe's Book of Martyrs the Catholics killed people they accused of
heresy. Was that okay too?

Rob

Tom A.

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Jan 15, 2003, 9:11:28 AM1/15/03
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Fox's Book of Martyrs isn't history. Fox never heard of a bad thing
against Catholics that he didn't believe. It was part of the propaganda
war that was going on at the time.

--
Tom A.
"I've got the whole world
In my hands" - John, 3 year old Megalomaniac

Rob

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Jan 15, 2003, 11:26:26 AM1/15/03
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:11:28 -0600, "Tom A." <meteoric...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

The massive coverup of sex crimes within the RCC in recent years makes
clear who the propaganda experts are.

Rob

Tom A.

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Jan 15, 2003, 11:42:08 AM1/15/03
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No just shows that the truth will out. Fox's lies haven't stood up to
history. The cover-up lies haven't either.

"No liar... can be in the presence of God."
Let's pray for the repentence of all liars that they may have the
Beatific vision.

Rob

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Jan 15, 2003, 12:01:30 PM1/15/03
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:42:08 -0600, "Tom A." <meteoric...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

That's a crock. Many of Foxe's accounts are corroborated and validated
by other reputable sources.

Rob

Susan Williams

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Jan 15, 2003, 9:03:30 PM1/15/03
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On 14 Jan 2003 06:17:34 -0800, Teresita <tere...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>In article <1c275ed0.03011...@posting.google.com>, aki...@hotmail.com
>says...
>
>>"Every Christian should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1583) in order to
>>gain an appreciation for the price which early Catholic Christians
>>paid in order to preserve the Christian faith."
>
>Foxe's Book of Hereticks.


Ted Seeber, when he constantly condemned the US Constitution and then
inevitably condemned all non-Catholics to persecution and death,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5s3n0vg73j3ij1ft2osp6jnmugum9himi7%404ax.com

showed that he still has the sentiments of the Ustashis.

Now the language of Teresita demonstrates that she also has the same
old sentiments.

WHY THE HELL ARE YOU PLAYING ON THEIR CONPUTERS???


In His Grace,

Susan

Susan Williams

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Jan 15, 2003, 9:14:22 PM1/15/03
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:11:28 -0600, "Tom A."
<meteoric...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Such thought patters comes with HANDS ON HATRED which has constantly
been the history of Rome. But we are showing this is the present
also.

Ted Seeber has been condemning the US Constitution FOR YEARS before
the pitchforks of these murderers here. IT NEVER BOTHERED THEM,
NATURALLY! When Brother Ted McMillan and I pointed out the snake,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5s3n0vg73j3ij1ft2osp6jnmugum9himi7%404ax.com

THEN THEY CAME IN FOR THE RELENTLESS ATTACK. They obey the Jesuit
Oath, AND SO THEY HAVE TO CONSTANTLY SHOW THAT TO EXPOSE THE WORST
KILLING MACHINE OF HISTORY IS TO INSULT OR HATE CATHOLICS SINCE
KILLING MACHINES ARE THE FLAGS TO REPRESENT CATHOLICS!!

William Suzanne just couldn't stand to have the atrocities of history
expose, for this would curtail and even prevent the ones being planned
and to come. He therefore storms in with the usual Inquisition
slanders and accusations. He told us that Ted Seeber didn't represent
Rome. I therefore asked him why then he wasn't upset with Ted Seeber
SINCE SEEBER MIS REPRESENTED ROME AS THEY ALL CLAIM WE DO. From there
the killer diverted to attacking Ellen White and ignoring my questions
and points as if he never knew I posted them!

Tom A. is another one of those same people who killed the Protestants
because his beliefs are also the same. It is different with these
Vatican killers. If you talk about their hatred shown through
killing, they will pretend that you are hateful. They will complain
that you TALK about the killings. It is only natural then that they
have to lie to make everyone think that it is more of a crime to talk
than it is TO KILL!!

Tom A. and the other servants of the Antichrist were asked to condemn
the Jesuit Oath, but they refused, claiming that the document was
fake. I had already shown they were lying by the fact that they
condemned Foxe's Book of Martyrs as a hateful document AND FALSE.


Next, these submonsters refused to condemn the atrocities of the
Ustashis: probably the worst killers of all time. We showed
documentaton from a Catholic Croat detailing the atrocities of the
Ustashis, and the documentation caused THE NAZIS TO SHUDDER! Since we
have done this, these sub-Nazi Ustashis began posting that we are the
ones with supreme hatred.

Bring your friends and let them see this till they make printed fliers
with the URLs and have them placed on the seats of every subway train!


In His Grace,


Susan

Susan Williams

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Jan 15, 2003, 9:22:31 PM1/15/03
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I'm not concerned so much even about their lies, BUT THESE ARE THE
WORST MURDERERS OF ALL TIME!!

If you expose them, they will tell the world that you are hurting very
fine Catholic people who represent the entire body.

Then they will move to attack Ellen White and go nuts because they
claim she plagiarized and predicted things that didn't come true.

Wouldn't that make the world upset and cause many to lose their
lives??

William Suzanne did this and wound up making a terrible mistake. But
these are the scoundrels of the Pope! As terrible as the mistake was,
they are trained to have no conscience. They will exercise all their
powers to talk over the evidence, along with anything else that was
found.

THAT IS HOW THE INQUISITIONS WERE RUN!! ALL EVIDENCE HAD TO BE
OVERCOME BY THE RANTINGS OF THE MURDERERS. EVIDENCE WAS A HATED THING
TO THEM!!

Look now and see what William Suzanne did in his bid to destroy what
we have found about Ted Seeber.

As we have shown, William Suzanne went nuts in hatred of Ellen White,
to the point where he said she was THE WORST FALSE PROPHET and claimed
so by her predicting that Christ would come in her day--more than 140
years off!!!

The Vatican super-terrorist went nuts about this and NOT about the
fact that Ted Seeber condemned all non-Catholics to persecution and
death boldly on the newsgroups after years of uninterrupted
condemnation of the US Constitution. William knew Ted Seeber was
always attacking the Constitution, but this didn't bother him. He was
only bothered when Brother Ted and myself began exposing the demon.

But now, since he claimed that Ellen White was the worst false
prophet, we need to understand the truth about this, for we know there
were false prophets of history who even predicted to the Children of
Israel that they should go into battle when the Lord already told them
they shouldn't. For that false prophecy, thousands died. Why then
does this killer proclaim Ellen White to be THE WORST FALSE PROPHET
claiming THAT SHE WAS MORE THAN 140 YEARS OFF IN HER ESTIMATIONS???

Well here is someone WHO WAS 2,000 YEARS OFF!! According to the
unscrupulous Vatican follower of the Jesuit Oath, THIS MAN MUST BE THE
MOST SUPREME IDIOT!!

Will has since come by to divert from the knowledge, BUT WE WILL HOLD
IT RIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS!!!

From: Salet...@rocketmail.com (Susan Williams)
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.christian.adventist,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,tnn.religion.catholic
Subject: #WILL, YOU SHOWED US CHRIST WAS A FOOL!!!
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.158.50.249
Message-ID: <71b8e9c9.03011...@posting.google.com>

WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne) wrote in message
news:<5f039a16.03011...@posting.google.com>...
> Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<j6572v0li5jobmuu5...@4ax.com>...
> > On 13 Jan 2003 20:01:19 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >More amazing breakthroughs! See as exampled in the Ted/Susan's
> > >previous reply that (s)he didn't bother to answer or refute all the
> > >truths thrown at him/her? Thank you everyone! Although (s)he tries
> > >to follow their Protestant oaths and cult orders, I think our prayers
> > >are beginning to work as (s)he runs out of false accusations to hide
> > >their lies and evil!!! To ereryone: keep up the good work. To
> > >transvestited Ted/Susan: we'll soon have you saved!
> > >
> > >
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > >In His True Grace,
> > >
> > >William Suzanne
> >
> >
> > I would like to take this time out to pray for Jesus
>
> You do not pray FOR Jesus...you pray TO Jesus. Only the ego of Satan
> and his minions would think that God Himself needs human help and
> prayers! Lord have mercy!!! Evidence keeps growing...

I PRAY FOR JESUS BECAUSE A WORKER FOR THE ANTICHRIST HAS SHOWN HIM TO
BEA COMPLETE FALSE PROPHET AND BLITHERING IDIOT!!

William Suzanne went into ballistic mode when we demonstrated that Ted
Seeber condemned the American Constitution for years and then
condemned all non-Catholics to persecution and death JUST AS WE HAD
BEEN REVEALING FOR YEARS!! The man then came AND DIDN'T SAY A WORD
AGAINST TED SEEBER. He came to attack us and to say anything to
destroy the truth. The man therefore fibbed and told us that Ted
Seeber does not represent Rome.

I came back and asked that if Ted Seeber doesn't represent Rome, then
he MISrepresents Rome as they claim we do. I then asked why these
Ustashis here defending Rome FORGET TO GET UPSET WITH THE MAN!!

Here part of the evidence for what Ted Seeber did:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5s3n0vg73j3ij1ft2osp6jnmugum9himi7%404ax.com

Being wiley enough to know he cannot possibly answer the question,
this killer began to attack Ellen White. He began to, as usual, take
statements of hers out of context and then placed his judgment after
them.

He then boldly claimed that Ellen White is the worst of prophets and
pointed out that she predicted that Christ would come in her day. He
pointed out that she was at least 140 YEARS OFF OF THE TRUTH!!

The problem we now uncovered is that CHRIST WAS OFF ON HIS PREDICTIONS
FOR 2,000 years:

The super-terrrorist William Suzanne says:

>Mrs White said in May of 1856 that some of those listening to her
will
>live
>to see the return of Jesus...
>Some of those that were attending a meeting with her would become
food
>for worms, and some would live to become subjects of the seven last
>plagues, and some others would "remain upon the earth to be
translated
>at the coming of Jesus." Testimonies for the Church, vol 1, pg
>131-132.

>Hmmm, that statement was made over 140 years ago. Has Jesus come yet?
>Are any of those at that 1856 meeting still alive?
>ONE FALSE PROPHECY MAKES A FALSE PROPHET.

Now listen and see, according to his false principles, THE FOLLOWING
SUPREME FALSE PROPHET:

Jesus said:

28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
kingdom.

These were Jesus' words.

OH HOW HARD IT IS WHEN YOU ARE A SON OF SATAN FROM THE ANTICHRIST!!!
ALL THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE BLOOD-LETTING CULT HAD SOME
CONSCIENCE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE CHANGED INSTEAD OF
HIDING HER TRUE COLORS BEFORE THE WORLD IN ORDER TO FOLLOW THE JESUIT
OATH!!


In His Grace,

Susan

>
> > since a
> > super-terrorist from his archenemy the Devil made Him out to be a
> > complete idiot and a supreme false prophet.
> >
> > The man who did this crime is none other than the super-terrorist
> > killer from the Vatican, William Suzanne!!
> >
> >
> > I KNOW YOU MAKE THESE READERS WHOM YOU THINK ARE STUPID OUT TO BE
> > IDIOTS, USTASHI SUZANNE, BUT WHY DID YOU MAKE CHRIST OUT TO BE AN
> > IDIOT AGAIN???
> >
> > THE MAN STILL AS YET HAS NOT ANSWERED WHY HE MADE CHRIST OUT TO BE A
> > COMPLETE IDIOT. HE CLAIMED THAT ELLEN WHITE WAS THE WORST FALSE
> > PROPHET. BELOW HE SHOWS THAT ELLEN WHITE PREDICTED THE SECOND COMING
> > OF THE LORD IN HER DAY (THE 1840S). WATCH NOW AND SEE AS SOMEONE ELSE
> > MISSES IT. . .
> >
> > BY MORE THAN 2,000 YEARS!!!!!
> >
> >
> > The super-terrrorist William Suzanne, in his hatred against all
> > Adventist people (accoding to his stated standards) says while
> > attacking Ellen White:
> >
> >
> >
> > >Mrs White said in May of 1856 that some of those listening to her will
> > >live
> > >to see the return of Jesus...
> > >Some of those that were attending a meeting with her would become food
> > >for worms, and some would live to become subjects of the seven last
> > >plagues, and some others would "remain upon the earth to be translated
> > >at the coming of Jesus." Testimonies for the Church, vol 1, pg
> > >131-132.
>
> > >Hmmm, that statement was made over 140 years ago. Has Jesus come yet?
> > >Are any of those at that 1856 meeting still alive?
> > >ONE FALSE PROPHECY MAKES A FALSE PROPHET.
> >
> See how they can't refute the false prophesy of their devil cult
> false-prophetess? After a listing of many of her false prophesies,
> there is only ONE they THINK they can argue against AND USE IT TO
> FALSELY PUT WORDS IN OTHERS' MOUTHS!

I REFUTED MUCH MORE, BUT THIS IS THE WORST!!

Don't leave this on the record of your works, son of Satan Suzanne!!

You are trained to be a despot, and so you are going to claim this is
just one place where we damn your soul, but, lyingly, we have not
refuted anything else.

THIS ISSUE INVOLVES INSULTING CHRIST! WE WILL LET YOU ESCAPE FROM
THIS JUST AS EASILY AS YOU ARE GOING TO ESCAPE FROM THE LAKE OF FIRE!!

You insulted Ellen White with all the pitchfork in your soul on the
charge that she was THE WORST false prophet to the point where she was
140 YEARS OFF of properly predicting that Christ would come. NOW WE
SHOW THAT CHRIST WAS 2,000 YEARS OFF!!

Just like you will not let us escape when you persecute us, we will
not give you room to breathe here!!

WHY DID YOU DO IT, SON OF SATAN??? WHY!!!!!!!!!

> > Now listen and see, according to his false principles, THE FOLLOWING
> > SUPREME FALSE PROPHET:
> >
> > Jesus said:
> >
> > 28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
> > not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
> > kingdom.
> >
> > These were Jesus' words.
>
> Yes they ARE His words(not were). Isn't this sad?

They WERE His words! They were said in History.

See we think killings are sad. You think plagiarism and not stating
things exactly are after you are trained better than all others to
state things incorrectly in order to deceive!! Perilous and sad times
are not coming because of the concerns of the murderers from the
Antichrist!

> This prooves how
> non-Christian the cult's members are. They just proved here that they
> have no understanding of the basic Christian doctrine of The
> Transfiguration written in 3 of the 4 Gospels!!! And their cult CLAIMS
> to believe it!!! Here's what the notes from one of their own editions
> of the Bible has to say on this passage:

What the monster is here trying to prove is that with all prophets YOU
CAN'T JUST SNIP OUT A QUOTE AND ESTABLISH WHAT IS SAID OF ITS MEANING.
BUT THAT IS WHAT THESE DEMONS ARE TRAINED TO DO!!!

For every snippet that Will took to destroy a dead woman, he was
supposed to explain it in context. That is why I also gave the
demonstration of people snipping from the bible statements concerning
what saves a man:

===============

To the Vatican Liar Will Suzanne, after he keeps proclaiming that
Ellen White is trained at the same place he is, I wrote:

I'll show you the first liar here:


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=ls0v1v8fj9l0jprvu4dpd3jh4euba7mod5%404ax.com

In the link above the man proclaims that scripture says Ellen White is
the Antichrist. CAN YOU BELIEVE THE DEMON???? Now I comment further
to the monster:

Next, I'm going to use your Vatican tactics and show you the second
greatest liar...


Now watch as I show that you can take the bible and snip out portions
of it and then claim that the bible is a liar:


Eph. 2:8, 9 says:
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Luke 3:12-14 says:
12 Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him,
Master, what shall we do?
13 And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed
you.
14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall
we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse
any falsely; and be content with your wages.

The moral here:

ONCE YOU STUDY THE WORKS OF THE PROPHETS TO OBEY AND BE FAITHFUL TO
GOD, THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

It is different when you are a Vatican Ustashi scoundrel showing
hatred to all Adventists!!

In the first statement the bible tells us we are not saved by works,
but in the second statement we learn that we are saved by other
things, INCLUDING BEING CONTENT WITH OUR WAGES!!!


The Ustashi scoundrel killer here knows these things, but he keeps the
Jesuit Oath and he must do what he can to destroy the credibility of
God's people first before he can actually accomplish it in fact and
blood!!


There is an explanation for Christ's statements. You can learn more
about it on Brother Ted's website:


http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/Perplexities_1.html


In His Grace,

Susan

Rob

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:22:31 -0500, Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com>
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No worse than the Protestants.

"I should have no compassion on these witches; I should burn them all."
[Martin Luther]

Rob

Susan Williams

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You need to see the record of the atrocities of the Ustashis. They
were so bad that even THE NAZIS shuddered! The people you are posting
to did not shudder when they heard of the unrivaled atrocities. THEY
SHUDDERED WHEN THEY SAW WE WERE EXPOSING THOSE ATROCITIES!!

What kind of atrocities would cause even the Nazis to shudder???

Check THIS OUT!!


====================


http://www.suc.org/culture/history/The_Serbs_Chose_War/darkest.html

The words are written by a CATHOLIC CROAT! Now watch how, by the
actions of the Ustashis during WWII, the actual wording of the Jesuit
Oath was carried out to a tee! As horrible as the words are, you will
notice that none of the posters here: Alan, Paul, Witch Caillean,
Meehan, etc., will even try to dwell on the horribleness of the
specifics, by they will try to ignore the documentation and turn all
focus off of it:


GRIZOGONO LETTER

Source: Letter written by Privislav Grizogono, a Croat and a Roman
Catholic, member of the Yugoslav Diplomatic Corps, Minister to
Czechoslovakia, Minister to Poland, addressed to Dr. Aloisius
Stepinac, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Zagreb, Croatia, February 8,
1942. Published in translation by the American Srbobran, a Serbian
paper of Pittsburgh, Pa., U.S.A., February 24, 1943:

"These atrocities do not amount to killings alone. They aim at
extermination of everything Serbian: women, children, and aged men,
and in terribly wild tortures of the victims. These innocent Serbs
were stuck on poles alive, and fires were built on their bare chests.
Literally they were roasted alive, burned to death in their homes and
churches. Boiling water was poured on live victims before mutilation;
their flesh was salted. Eyes were dug out of live victims, ears
amputated, noses and tongues lobbed off. The beards and mustaches of
priests, together with their skin, were ripped off rudely by knives.
They were tied to trucks and dragged behind them. The arms and legs of
the victims were broken and their heads were spiked.

"They were thrown into the deep cisterns and caves, then literally
bombed to pieces. Crowbars smashed their heads. Their children were
thrown into fire, scalding water, and fed to the fired lime furnaces.
Other children were parted by their legs; their heads crushed against
walls and their spines dashed against rocks. These and many other
methods of torture were employed against the Serbs-tortures which
normal people cannot conceive. Thousands of Serbian bodies floated
down the Sava, Drava, and Danube rivers and their tributaries. Many of
these bodies bore tags: 'Direction-Belgrade, to King Peter.' In one
boat on the Sava there was a pile of children's heads, with a woman's
head (presumably the mother of the children) labeled: "Meat for John's
Market-Belgrade" (meaning meat for the Serbian market).

"The case of Milenka Bozinich from Stapandza is a particularly
gruesome one: they dug her unborn child out of her with a knife. Then,
in Bosnia, a huge pile of roasted heads was found. Utensils full of
Serbian blood were also discovered; this was the hot blood of their
murdered brothers that other Serbs were forced to drink.

"Countless women, girls, and children were raped, mothers before
daughters and daughters before mothers, while many women, girls, and
female children were ushered off to Ustashi garrisons to be used as
prostitutes. Rapes were committed even before the altars of the
Orthodox Church. About 3,000 Serbs were murdered in the Serbian
Orthodox Church at Glina, and the massacre of Serbians before the
altar at Kladusha with sledge hammers is something never mentioned in
history....

"There are detailed and official minutes (reports) about these
unheard-of crimes. They are so terrible they have shocked even the
Germans and Italians. Many pictures were taken of these massacres and
torture orgies. The Germans claim the Croats did these same things
during the Thirty-Year War and that, since then, there is a proverb in
Germany: 'God save us from cholera, hunger, and the Goats.' Even the
Germans from Srem [Syrmia] hate us and act more or less humanely
toward the Serbs. The Italians have photographed a vessel holding 31.5
kilograms of Serbian eyes, and one Croat decorated with a wreath of
Serbian eyes came to Dubrovnik with two wreaths of Serbian tongues.

"Though we Croatians shall never be able to erase this shamefulness
which we brought upon ourselves with these crimes, we can at least
lessen our responsibility before the world and our consciences if we
raise our voices in protest against all these crimes.

"This is the last hour for us to do so. After all the great crimes in
history, punishments follow. What will happen to us Croats if the
impression is formed that we participated in all these crimes to the
finish!?"#

PRIVISLAV GRIZOGONO

At Zemun, Feb. 8, 1942

In His Grace,

Susan

Tom A.

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I didn't say everything he wrote was a lie, but from what I have read,
if the event was close at hand, his reporting was pretty good, but the
farther away from him it was, the more outragous the stories became.

And here's some information from some one-line encyclopedias

http://1911encyclopedia.org/ :
Foxe based his accounts of the martyrs partly on authentic documents
and reports of the trials, and on statements received direct from the
friends of the sufferers, but he was too hasty a worker and too violent
a partisan to produce anything like a correct or impartial account of
the mass of facts with which he had to deal. Anthony a Wood says that
Foxe "believed and reported all that was told him, and there is every
reason to suppose that he was purposely misled, and continually deceived
by those whose interest it was to bring discredit on his work," but he
admits that the book is a monument of his industry, his laborious
research and his sincere piety. The gross blunders due to carelessness
have often been exposed, and there is no doubt that Foxe was only too
ready to believe evil of the Catholics, and he cannot always be
exonerated from the charge of wilful falsification of evidence. It
should, however, be remembered in his honour that his advocacy of
religious toleration was far in advance of his day.

Columbia Encyclopedia

1516-87, English clergyman, author of the noted Book of Martyrs. He
early became a Protestant and, when Mary Tudor became queen, he fled
from England to Strasbourg. There was printed (1554), in Latin, the
first part of his history of the persecution of Protestant reformers.
Foxe moved to Basel and had published (1559) the first complete edition,
in Latin, of his history. After Elizabeth's accession, an expanded
English edition appeared (1563) entitled The Actes and Monuments of
These Latter and Perilous Dayes. The work was commonly known as the Book
of Martyrs, and its chief purpose was to praise the heroism and piety of
the Protestant martyrs of Mary's reign. The book was widely read, and
its influence was extensive, although as history it is highly prejudiced
and not altogether trustworthy.

And finally:

Catholic Encylopedia:

Even in the fantastically partisan church history of the earlier portion
of the book, with its grotesque stories of popes and monks and its
motley succession of witnesses to the truth (including the Albigenses,
Grosseteste, Dante, and Savonarola) was accepted among simple folk and
must have contributed much to anti-Catholic prejudices in England. When
Foxe treats of his own times his work is of greater value as it contains
many documents and is but largely based on the reports of eyewitnesses;
but he sometimes dishonesty mutilates his documents and is quite
untrustworthy in his treatment of evidence. He was criticized in his own
day by Catholics such as Harpsfield and Father Parsons and by
practically all serious eccesiastical historians.


Maybe I shouldn't have posted that. Now McMillan will believe that
Encyclopedia's are also under the control of the Jesuits (when in
reality, it's the Paulist Fathers that have been assigned that task when
they're not running Hollywood.) Fnord.

Susan Williams

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:11:28 -0600, "Tom A."
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The man is claiming that Foxe's Book is fake. He is then claiming that
Foxe hates Catholics. I thought fake documents need no comment
related to hatred!

Is Foxe really hateful? Or does the seemingly sudden disappearance of
millions of bible-believing Christians, confirmed by Ted Seeber
believing they should MORE THAN DISAPPEAR, have something to do with
his CONSERVATIVE expose???

WHY DID TED SEEBER CONFIRM FOXE'S RECORD????...


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5s3n0vg73j3ij1ft2osp6jnmugum9himi7%404ax.com


Why can't the killers, who know they have to present to the world that
those who reveal these things hate Catholics, see it????

In His Grace,


Susan

Susan Williams

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:42:08 -0600, "Tom A."
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I thought the man told us that the Jesuit Oath must not be commented
upon because it was fake? No one should document the hatred within it
because it is fake?

Now the killer is not only telling us that the record written by Foxe
is fake, he is telling us the man is hateful of Catholics???


In His Grace,


Susan

Rob

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It's not any worse than the record of a lot of other brutal regimes in history.
Why don't you find yourself a new dog and pony show, because the one you're
perpetually regurgitating is extremely boring.

Rob

Rob

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:53:42 -0600, "Tom A." <meteoric...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

You quote from the CE? That's as biased as you can get. I prefer EB which is
recognized as the most authoritavie and comprehensive enclyclopedia published.

Foxe, John
John Foxe, engraving by George Glover, 1587
Hulton Getty

(b. 1516, Boston, Lincolnshire, Eng.--d. April 18, 1587, Cripplegate, London),
English Puritan preacher and author of The Book of Martyrs, a graphic and
polemic account of those who suffered for the cause of Protestantism. Widely
read, often the most valued book beside the Bible in the households of English
Puritans, it helped shape popular opinion about Roman Catholicism for at least
a century. The feeling of the English populace against Spain, important in the
politics of the age, was fanned by the book's description of the Inquisition.
It dealt chiefly, however, with the martyrdom of English Protestants from the
14th century through the reign of Queen Mary I in Foxe's own time.
After studying at the University of Oxford and holding a fellowship for seven
years, Foxe fell under suspicion of harbouring Protestant views more extreme
than the authorities of his college would allow. He resigned and in 1547 moved
to London, where he became tutor to the grandchildren of the duke of Norfolk.
He was ordained a deacon of the Church of England. Foxe worked for the
Reformation, writing several tracts. He also began his account of martyrs but
had carried it no further than 1500 when the accession of the Roman Catholic
queen Mary I in 1553 forced him to flee overseas. In Strasbourg, France, he
published his partly completed martyrology in Latin as Commentarii rerum in
ecclesia gestarum (1554; "Commentaries on Affairs Within the Church"). He then
went to Frankfurt, where he lent a moderating support to the Calvinistic party
of John Knox, and thence to Basel, Switz., where he wrote a burning appeal to
the English nobility to restrain the queen from persecuting Protestants: Ad
inclytos ac praepotentes Angliae proceres ("To the Renowned and Powerful Nobles
of England," 1557). With the aid of manuscripts sent to him from England, he
carried his account of the martyrs up to 1556 and had it printed in 1559, the
year following the accession to the throne of the Protestant queen, Elizabeth
I.

Foxe returned to London and devoted himself to the completion of his great
work. Perusing official registers and using the memories of eyewitnesses, he
enlarged his story. His English translation was printed in March 1563 under the
title Actes and Monuments of these Latter and Perillous Dayes. It immediately
acquired the popular name The Book of Martyrs. In 1570 he produced his greatly
improved second edition. This was the crown of his achievement; he made few
changes in his third (1576) and fourth (1583) editions.

Foxe was ordained an Anglican priest in 1560, but having Puritan scruples he
refused all offices, obtaining two church stipends that required no duties. He
often preached, however, and a sermon delivered at Paul's Cross (A Sermon, Of
Christ Crucified [1570]) had a wide sale. In the plague of 1563 he ministered
to the victims and wrote a moving tract of consolation. When Anabaptists in
1575 and Jesuits in 1581 were condemned to death, Foxe wrote vehement letters
to Queen Elizabeth and her councilors, begging reprieves.

Foxe's monument is his book. It has been criticized as prolix, carelessly
edited, one-sided, sometimes credulous, but it is factually detailed and
preserves much firsthand material on the English Reformation unobtainable
elsewhere.

Copyright 1994-1999 Encyclopædia Britannica

Rob

Susan Williams

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Not only that, Foxe's book is CONFIRMED since we saw Ted Seeber
condemn liberty and the US Constitution BEFORE he claimed that
persecution of all Non-Catholics was biblical, and then he condemned
them all to persecution and death!!

Here is where he did this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5s3n0vg73j3ij1ft2osp6jnmugum9himi7%404ax.com


The Ustashis came WELL AFTER FOXE AND PROVED THAT THE DOCUMENTATION
WRITTEN BY FOXE WAS NOT ONLY ACCURATE,...

BUT IT WAS CONSERVATIVE!!!

The killers documented here were not ashamed that Ted Seeber is just
another example confirming what Foxe wrote. To them and in all their
efforts, the criminals were those who exposed these killers.

FOXE DID JUST THAT!!!


In His Grace,


Susan

Susan Williams

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THAT'S BECAUSE THE NAZIS DIDN'T FIND YOUR CONCLUSION TO BE ACCURATE.
THE NAZIS PRIZED THEMSELVES BEING THE MOST BRUTAL, BUT THEY SHUDDERED
WHEN THEY LEARNED ABOUT THE CRIMES OF THE USTASHIS. THEY FELT
OUT-WITTED AND OUT-CLASSED!!

Why don't you find a different group to join other than the Ustashis??


In His Grace,


Susan

Rob

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:50:11 -0500, Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

Oh yeah, I bet Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler were just shaking in their boots
while eating caviar and drinking wine with their mistresses. I don't know who,
but someone did a real con job on you.

> THEY FELT
>OUT-WITTED AND OUT-CLASSED!!
>
>Why don't you find a different group to join other than the Ustashis??

WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE?????

Rob

Rob

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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:45:59 -0600, Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:16:34 GMT, Rob <r...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>>>The massive coverup of sex crimes within the RCC in recent years makes
>>>>>>>>clear who the propaganda experts are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm not concerned so much even about their lies, BUT THESE ARE THE
>>>>>>>WORST MURDERERS OF ALL TIME!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No worse than the Protestants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"I should have no compassion on these witches; I should burn them all."
>>>>>>[Martin Luther]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You need to see the record of the atrocities of the Ustashis.
>>>>
>>>>It's not any worse than the record of a lot of other brutal regimes in history.
>>>>Why don't you find yourself a new dog and pony show, because the one you're
>>>>perpetually regurgitating is extremely boring.
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>THAT'S BECAUSE THE NAZIS DIDN'T FIND YOUR CONCLUSION TO BE ACCURATE.
>>>THE NAZIS PRIZED THEMSELVES BEING THE MOST BRUTAL, BUT
>>>
>>>THEY SHUDDERED
>>>WHEN THEY LEARNED ABOUT THE CRIMES OF THE USTASHIS.
>>
>>Oh yeah, I bet Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler were just shaking in their boots
>>while eating caviar and drinking wine with their mistresses. I don't know who,
>>but someone did a real con job on you.
>

>Yeah, Hitler should learn from you and be calm when hearing the worst
>atrocities!!

All the atrocities ever committed by the Ustashis pale in comparison to the
crucifixion of Christ, but you're obviously quite calm about that.

Rob

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