"THE WICKED FLEE WHEN NO MAN PURSUETH: ..."

[Donna Kupp]

“The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
lion.” Proverbs 28:1

That one-line proverb can be quickly read and forgotten; but one
frightful night it became a memorable experience. I was walking
alongside a solitary Quonset hut with the intention of unlocking its
front door to prepare for a fellowship meeting and Bible Study. To my
left was a large vacant lot and the moonlight exposed a man running
toward me.

Instead of being terrified, I was filled with peace that cannot be
described as I listened to these whispered words:

“The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
lion.” Proverbs 28:1

Because of Jesus, I was bold as a lion. I did not scream or run; but
walked calmly at my normal pace. The man fell. He got up and
continued running toward me. He stumbled and fell again. Then he got
up, turned around and ran away.

Today, I am old --and the Quonset hut is gone. The word of God
remains the same so that another generation can know Him and His power
to help them in their time of need.

Donna Kupp

The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
http://www.freetruth.info

[jwshe...@satx.rr.com]

Col 2:16 -Let no man therefore judge you in meat,
or in drink, or in respect of an holyday,
or of the new moon,
or of the sabbath days:


Pr 30:6 - Add thou not unto his words,
lest he reprove thee,
and thou be found a liar.

[vince garcia]

As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

--Apostle paul



Donna Kupp wrote:
>
> A thousand may pray until their knees are bloody, but if they are not
> keeping His Commandments, God says their prayer is an abomination to
> Him. Yet the prayers of one one man who abides in Him can change the
> lives and circumstances of many:
>
> "The effectual fervent prayer of a RIGHTEOUS man availeth much."
> James 5:16 KJV
>
> “Little children, let no one deceive you. He who DOES RIGHT is
> RIGHTEOUS.” 1 John 3:7 RSV

Sounds good, doesn't it? SOUNDS like something a believer in Christ
might really say.

But what is the truth behind what Donna Kupp teaches and believes?

How can we know if this woman is of God or actually a false teacher when
she speaks?

Paul gives us the answer:

2 cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve
through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the
simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth ANOTHER JESUS, whom we have not
preached, or if ye receive ANOTHER SPIRIT, which ye have not received,
or ANOTHER GOSPEL, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with
him.

2 cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming
themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of
light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed
as the MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS; whose end shall be according to their
works.

Donna Kupp, for those who do not know, is a woman preaching a false
gospel with a false Christ that denies virtually every possible
essential of the Christian faith.

Note here paul's words about false teachers: they will actually be
"MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS"!!!!! Not antinomians, teaching lawlessness
and freedom to sin, but MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, teaching an
apparently good-sounding Gospel that is actually ANOTHER GOSPEL about
ANOTHER JESUS!

Let us test Donna Kupp's own words against the doctrines of
the New Testament and the Christian church, and see if we can determine
whether she is a servant of God, or actually a minister of Satan!

1. First, Paul warns that a minister of Satan will teach "ANOTHER
JESUS."

Is Donna Kupp's Jesus YOUR Jesus? Is her Jesus the Jesus of
Scripture?

While Donna Kupp just made a number of statements sound like something a
real Christian might make, we cannot make a judgment whether she is or
is not a true Christian based only on what she just posted here. We must
determine if she really teaches the same Jesus REAL Christians follow by
looking at statements she, herself, has made about Christ in the past,
that she may not throw out on a regular basis, because she knows it
reveals what she REALLY thinks about Christ.

So what does she actually say about the Jesus she follows, and
supposedly places faith in?

This...

>"In the beginning was Jesus

> and Jesus was with THE RULER,

> and Jesus was Ruler.

> The same was in the beginning with THE RULER."
>John was teaching that Jesus was our Ruler (our theos) and that
>Jesus was with the Father from the very beginning of creation.
>(Not that Jesus was one third of some mysterious and mind-
>boggling "Trinity" that no one had ever heard of.)

We can stop right there. Donna Kupp, denying the deity of Christ,
rewrites the Gospel of John in a manner that affirms that denial, so we
can either change all our Bibles to her new trenslation that "proves"
Jesus is NOT fully God, but some other sort of created lesser being, or
we can allow the sacred words of the apostle John to stand AS WRITTEN!

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD
WAS GOD.

So we see her Jesus is ANOTHER JESUS that orthodox Protestants and
Evangelicals (and Catholics) DO NOT believe in.

For US, Jesus is God in flesh, fully God and fully man, and 2nd Person
of the Trinity she goes on to mock and deny.


2. Next, Paul warns that a minister of Satan will teach or operate under
a "DIFFERENT SPIRIT".

Does Donna Kupp teach and receive anoining by the same Holy Spirit that
REAL Christians follow?

Judge for yourself by her own words.

> The concept that the Holy Spirit is God is based on a single verse in
> Acts (5:3) where it says that Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit - and
> later it says that he lied to God.
> To conclude that the Holy Spirit is God on the basis of those verses is
> merely an interpretation which adds to what is actually written. Since
> the Spirit is the means of communciation between God and man, if you
> lie to the Spirit you are in effect lying to God. Are there any verses
> which actually say that the Holy Spirit is God?
> Not one!
> Jesus did not teach the Trinity, the apostles did not teach it, and it
> was not taught by church leaders for three hundred years after the
> death of Christ.

All REAL Christians believe not only in the deity of Christ, but also
the Godhood of the Holy Spirit. As we see from her own words, Donna
Kupp denies those two essentials of the faith, and proclaims the Holy
Spirit is only some nebulous "means of communication between God and
man"

So now we see she has fulfilled the SECOND warning of Paul--she has
A DIFFERENT SPIRIT than REAL Christians do.

By the way, her LIES about the history of the Trinity are instantly
refutable:

The deity of Christ was EXPLICITLY taught by Ignatius in the early 2nd
century

"To the Church at Ephesus in Asia . . . chosen through true suffering by
the will of the Father in Jesus Christ our God"
"FOR OUR GOD, Jesus Christ, was conceived by Mary in accord with God�s
plan: of the seed of David, it is true, but also of the Holy Spirit"

Letter to the Ephesians 1 110 AD

False teacher kupp also adds:

> There is no record of the co-equal, co-eternal, three-in-one God
> being taught by a single one of the early church fathers. It
> was not a part of Christian teaching until it was formulated by the
> Second Ecumenical Council at Constantinople in 381.A.D.


"No record"?


For the Church, although dispersed throughout the whole world even to
the ends of the earth, has received from the apostles and from their
disciples the faith in one God, the Father Almighty . . . and in one
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who became flesh for our salvation; and in
the Holy Spirit

Irenaeus, before 200 AD

And at the same time the mystery of the oikonomia is safeguarded, for
the unity is distributed in a TRINITY. Placed in order, the three are
the Father, Son, and Spirit. They are three, however, not in condition,
but in degree; not in being, but in form; not in power, but in kind; of
one being, however, and one condition and one power, because he is one
God of whom degrees and forms and kinds are taken into account in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"

Tertullian "Against Praxeas" early 200s AD

For Scripture as much announces Christ AS ALSO GOD, as it announces God
himself as man. It has as much described Jesus Christ to be man, as
moreover it has also described Christ the Lord to be God. Because it
does not set forth him to be the Son of God only, but also the son of
man; nor does it only say, the son of man, but it has also been
accustomed to speak of him as the Son of God. So that being of both, he
is both, lest if he should be one only, he could not be the other. For
as nature itself has prescribed that he must be believed to be a man who
is of man, so the same nature prescribes also that he must be believed
to be God who is of God. . . . Let them, therefore, who read that Jesus
Christ the son of man is man, read also that this same Jesus is called
also God and the Son of God"

Novatian, Treatise on the Trinity 11 235 AD

And now the capstone to Kupp's historial and TEXTUAL illiteracy:

The Lord says: 'I and the Father are one.' And again of the Father and
Son and the Holy Spirit it is written: 'And these three are one'.
Cyprian --Treatise 1 on the unity of the Catholic Church, chapter 6,
early 3rd century, PROVING THE LEGITIMACY OF THE COMMA JOHANNEUM KUPP
(and other historical illiterates) SAY IS A FRAUD.


3. The minister of Satan will also teach "ANOTHER GOSPEL."

Does Donna Kupp uphold the CHRISTIAN gospel? We've already seen she
denies and perverts the nature of Jesus Himself and the precious Holy
Spirit. But what is her actual gospel message? She talks about
obedience, and making Jesus Lord...but what does she really believe
about sin, justification, and sanctification? Does she ever lay out her
beliefs in clear language so the body of Christ can see and judge
whether she is or is not a fellow believer?

Yes!

Again, these are her own words:

>To be saved is the first step in the process of salvation. Those who
>are saved do not have eternal life -

Did you get that? THOSE WHO ARE SAVED ___DO NOT___HAVE ETERNAL LIFE!!!

LET'S CONTRAST THAT WITH SCRIPTURE:

jn 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, HATH eternal life;
and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name
of the Son of God; that YE MAY KNOW that ye have eternal life, and that
ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

More from Donna Jupp:

> "If one who is born of God has truly repented of committing sin
> (chosen to cease from sin) and then deliberately commits sin he has
> despised the Holy Spirit, just as the OT the Israelites despised the
> Law of God. It is blasphemy!"
> "When we are converted all past sins are forgiven. After a person is
> born-again, only sins of ignorance are forgiven. If a person sins
> with knowledge and intent after that time, they have blasphemed
> the Holy Spirit and there is no more sacrifice for sin. See Hebrews
> 6:1-8; Hebrews 10:26-31."

LET'S CONTRAST THAT WITH SCRIPTURE:

Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves
are ALSO FOUND SINNERS, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God
forbid.

Apparently, paul understood that even those justified in Christ STILL
SINNED!

Are we sure? Well, let's again test the doctrine of donna kupp by Paul's
own words, written in the last months of his life:

1 tim 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I AM
CHIEF.

Wait a minute--I thought Donna said any Christian who willingly commits
even ONE SIN is eternally damned!

Apparently, paul did not realize this when he acknowledged he was the
WORST of sinners in 67 AD when he wrote this, 30+ years after finding
Christ! Thus, he must have been guilty of blaspheming the spirit
according to false teachers harold and donna kupp

What else did Paul have to say about whether Christians do or do not
commit sin in romans 7?

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing:
for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I
find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: BUT THE EVIL WHICH I WOULD NOT,
____THAT I DO___.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin
that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with
me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my
mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my
members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this
death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I
myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Does THAT sound like a man who has reached the state of sinless
perfection like Donna Kupp, who claims any sin she commits is 100%
accidental and unintentional??????

And this is her ultimate blasphemy regarding the blood of Christ...

> Blood of Christ covers: 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light,
> as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the
> blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (Only sins
> of ignorance)

Notice how donna kupp added the words "Only sins of ignorance" to
pervert John's words? Just as she did with the powerful passage in John
1:1, she rejects the message and inserts her own heretical words flat
out CONTRADICTING what was actually written! John says Christ's blood
cleanses us from ALL sin; Donna adds words to change it to all
UNINTENTIONAL sins, making the blood of Christ LIMITED in its ability to
atone for sin.

Kupp also has missed what Jesus said about how imperfect His followers
will always be:

Luke 4:4 And FORGIVE US OUR SINS; for we also forgive every one that is
indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from
evil.

Meanwhile, THIS is God's true message of salvation:

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become
the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

And while Donna Kupp blasphemes the gospel by claiming we keep--and
actually earn--our salvation through keeping the 10 commandments
perfectly, here is what the SCRIPTURE says about how we stay in right
standing security with God:

1 peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a
lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not
away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 WHO ARE KEPT BY THE POWER OF GOD __THROUGH FAITH__ UNTO SALVATION
ready to be revealed in the last time.

So now we see her "gospel" IS NOT the gospel of the New testament. It is
a false gospel that...

A. Requires Bible verses to be rewritten in a heretical manner.
B. Requires adding a clarification to Scripture that TOTALLY overturns
what the Scripture actually SAYS.
C. Must deny the deity of Christ and the Holy Spirit.
D. Requires remaining in a state of salvation by keeping the 10
commandments PERFECTLY, or else the person is now damned without
possibility of repentance.
E. Blasphemes and limits the atoning power of Christ's blood to
"Only sins of ignorance."


4. As we noted, Paul says the MINISTER OF SATAN will actually appear to
be a MINISTER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS! That is what makes them so deceptive.
They are serpents in the guise of sheep, preaching righteous living and
'keeping God's holy law' while in their hearts is satan himself, drawing
people away from TRUE righteousness, to a perverted notion of it based
on keeping commandments!

Take a look at Donna Kupp's deceptive posts, including this one. Every
one touts the keeping of biblical commandments, threatens people with
damnation for failing to keep biblical commandments, and threatenes them
with damnation if anyone should ever--EVEN ONE TIME--willingly BREAK a
biblical commandment.

So Kupp APPEARS to be preaching the righteousness of 'keeping God's holy
commandments'...yet she does it in a way that is an UTTER PERVERSION of
the gospel of grace, and comes right from the mouth of satan speaking
good things, and making her LOOK like a minister of righetousness.

So, summing it up, Paul says that a minister of satan will...

Preach another Jesus...
Preach under another spirit...
Preach a different gospel...
While appearing to be a minister of righteousness while doing so!

I believe Donna Kupp meets ALL FOUR CRITERIA.

Based on the totality of her teachings, I see no conclusion other than
that the "Jesus" she follows is a demon spirit, and the "Yahweh" she
speaks for is actually SATAN.


I am dead to the law by the crucified body of Christ. Are you?

[Rod]

On 5/17/2012 8:45 AM, Donna Kupp wrote:
> �The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
> lion.� Proverbs 28:1

>
> That one-line proverb can be quickly read and forgotten; but one
> frightful night it became a memorable experience. I was walking
> alongside a solitary Quonset hut with the intention of unlocking its
> front door to prepare for a fellowship meeting and Bible Study. To my
> left was a large vacant lot and the moonlight exposed a man running
> toward me.
>
> Instead of being terrified, I was filled with peace that cannot be
> described as I listened to these whispered words:
>

> �The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
> lion.� Proverbs 28:1

>
> Because of Jesus, I was bold as a lion. I did not scream or run; but
> walked calmly at my normal pace. The man fell. He got up and
> continued running toward me. He stumbled and fell again. Then he got
> up, turned around and ran away.
>
> Today, I am old --and the Quonset hut is gone. The word of God
> remains the same so that another generation can know Him and His power
> to help them in their time of need.
>
> Donna Kupp
>
> The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
> http://www.freetruth.info
>

Thank you Donna, I had forgotten this one..

[duke]

On Fri, 18 May 2012 10:29:17 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/17/2012 8:45 AM, Donna Kupp wrote:

>> “The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
>> lion.” Proverbs 28:1

>>
>> That one-line proverb can be quickly read and forgotten; but one
>> frightful night it became a memorable experience. I was walking
>> alongside a solitary Quonset hut with the intention of unlocking its
>> front door to prepare for a fellowship meeting and Bible Study. To my
>> left was a large vacant lot and the moonlight exposed a man running
>> toward me.
>>
>> Instead of being terrified, I was filled with peace that cannot be
>> described as I listened to these whispered words:
>>

>> “The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
>> lion.” Proverbs 28:1

>>
>> Because of Jesus, I was bold as a lion. I did not scream or run; but
>> walked calmly at my normal pace. The man fell. He got up and
>> continued running toward me. He stumbled and fell again. Then he got
>> up, turned around and ran away.
>>
>> Today, I am old --and the Quonset hut is gone. The word of God
>> remains the same so that another generation can know Him and His power
>> to help them in their time of need.
>>
>> Donna Kupp
>>
>> The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
>> http://www.freetruth.info
>>
>
> Thank you Donna, I had forgotten this one..

Galatians 5:19-21 (New International Version)
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage,
selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and
the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not
inherit the kingdom of God.

duke - American American

*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****

[Rod]

On 5/18/2012 10:40 AM, duke wrote:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 10:29:17 -0500, Rod<nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/17/2012 8:45 AM, Donna Kupp wrote:

>>> �The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
>>> lion.� Proverbs 28:1

>>>
>>> That one-line proverb can be quickly read and forgotten; but one
>>> frightful night it became a memorable experience. I was walking
>>> alongside a solitary Quonset hut with the intention of unlocking its
>>> front door to prepare for a fellowship meeting and Bible Study. To my
>>> left was a large vacant lot and the moonlight exposed a man running
>>> toward me.
>>>
>>> Instead of being terrified, I was filled with peace that cannot be
>>> described as I listened to these whispered words:
>>>

>>> �The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
>>> lion.� Proverbs 28:1

>>>
>>> Because of Jesus, I was bold as a lion. I did not scream or run; but
>>> walked calmly at my normal pace. The man fell. He got up and
>>> continued running toward me. He stumbled and fell again. Then he got
>>> up, turned around and ran away.
>>>
>>> Today, I am old --and the Quonset hut is gone. The word of God
>>> remains the same so that another generation can know Him and His power
>>> to help them in their time of need.
>>>
>>> Donna Kupp
>>>
>>> The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
>>> http://www.freetruth.info
>>>
>>
>> Thank you Donna, I had forgotten this one..
>
> Galatians 5:19-21 (New International Version)
> 19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
> debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage,
> selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and
> the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not
> inherit the kingdom of God.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****

1John_1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


* 1John_2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one
that doeth righteousness is born of him. *


* 1John_3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth
righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. *

John_7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he
that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no
unrighteousness is in him.

John_7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous
judgment.


And for those depending on the Law, not Christ for righteousness:

Mat_5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall
exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no
case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[duke]

On Fri, 18 May 2012 11:34:20 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/18/2012 10:40 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 10:29:17 -0500, Rod<nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2012 8:45 AM, Donna Kupp wrote:

>>>> “The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
>>>> lion.” Proverbs 28:1

>>>>
>>>> That one-line proverb can be quickly read and forgotten; but one
>>>> frightful night it became a memorable experience. I was walking
>>>> alongside a solitary Quonset hut with the intention of unlocking its
>>>> front door to prepare for a fellowship meeting and Bible Study. To my
>>>> left was a large vacant lot and the moonlight exposed a man running
>>>> toward me.
>>>>
>>>> Instead of being terrified, I was filled with peace that cannot be
>>>> described as I listened to these whispered words:
>>>>

>>>> “The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a
>>>> lion.” Proverbs 28:1

>>>>
>>>> Because of Jesus, I was bold as a lion. I did not scream or run; but
>>>> walked calmly at my normal pace. The man fell. He got up and
>>>> continued running toward me. He stumbled and fell again. Then he got
>>>> up, turned around and ran away.
>>>>
>>>> Today, I am old --and the Quonset hut is gone. The word of God
>>>> remains the same so that another generation can know Him and His power
>>>> to help them in their time of need.
>>>>
>>>> Donna Kupp
>>>>
>>>> The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
>>>> http://www.freetruth.info
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Donna, I had forgotten this one..
>>
>> Galatians 5:19-21 (New International Version)
>> 19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
>> debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage,
>> selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and
>> the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not
>> inherit the kingdom of God.

> 1John_1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
>us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Yes, IF.

> * 1John_2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one
>that doeth righteousness is born of him. *

Yes, IF.

>* 1John_3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth
>righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. *
>
> John_7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he
>that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no
>unrighteousness is in him.
>
> John_7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous
>judgment.

> And for those depending on the Law, not Christ for righteousness:

And Christ said not one small part of God's law will pass away, but be certified
in love.

> Mat_5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall
>exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no
>case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Yes, those scribes and pharisees were bad dudes. But there were plenty of good
Jews not them.

[dolf]

Liar Liar, pants on fire!

On 19/05/12 4:33 PM, Waldo Tunnel wrote:
> Dolf.

{9: // #9 - Inconstancy of Achievement, Practicing Placidity; I-Ching:
H7 - Army; Tetra: 32 - Legion,

{19: // #19 - Argument for Ethical Anarchism, Returning to
Simplicity; I-Ching: H57 - Gentle Penetration; Tetra: 58 - Gathering In]

{100: {"Dolf": {}}}
}
}

Nobody cares about your recondite and sappy prose.

{35: // #35 - Great Guiding Signs?, Virtue of Benevolence; I-Ching: H17
- Allegiance; Tetra: 19 - Following

{80: // #80 - Primitivist Independence, Remaining in Isolation;
I-Ching: H16 - Enthusiasm; Tetra: 23 - Ease

{4535: {"Nobody cares about your recondite and sappy prose.": {}}}
}
}

צבאו
{#90, #2, #1, #6}

tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99
1) that which goes forth, army, war, warfare, host
1a) army, host
1a1) host (of organised army)
1a2) host (of angels)
1a3) of sun, moon, and stars
1a4) of whole creation
1b) war, warfare, service, go out to war
1c) service

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host
{tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99} of them." [Genesis 2:1]

"And it came to pass at that time, that Abimelech and Phichol the chief
captain of his host {tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99} spake unto Abraham,
saying, God is with thee in all that thou doest:" [Genesis 21:22]

"Thus they made a covenant at Beersheba: then Abimelech rose up, and
Phichol the chief captain of his host {tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99}, and
they returned into the land of the Philistines." [Genesis 21:32]

"Then Abimelech went to him from Gerar, and Ahuzzath one of his friends,
and Phichol the chief captain of his army {tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99}."
[Genesis 26:26]

"These are that Aaron and Moses, to whom the LORD said, Bring out the
children of Israel from the land of Egypt according to their armies
{tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99}." [Exodus 6:26]

"But Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you, that I may lay my hand upon
Egypt, and bring forth mine armies {tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99}, and my
people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great
judgments." [Exodus 7:4]

"And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this
selfsame day have I brought your armies {tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99} out
of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your
generations by an ordinance for ever." [Exodus 12:17]

"And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years,
even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts {tsaba'-host
[H6635]: #99} of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt." [Exodus 12:41]

"And it came to pass the selfsame day, that the LORD did bring the
children of Israel out of the land of Egypt by their armies {tsaba'-host
[H6635]: #99}." [Exodus 12:51]

"From twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war
{tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99} in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them
by their armies {tsaba'-host [H6635]: #99}." [Numbers 1:3]

Nous: #9
Time: 16:40 hrs
Date: 2012.12.3
Torah: #1 #30 #4 %81 = #35
Dao: Inconstancy of Achievement, Practicing Placidity
Tetra: #32 - Legion
I-Ching: H7 - Army

Latin: Animus {Propitious God} Alt: Yeielel {Howl to God} {
1. HELPS HIDE THAT WHICH ONE DOES NOT WISH TO REVEAL, SECRETS
2. PLAGUE & RABIES
3. HEALING
4. Viroaso
}
Noah {Rest, Repose; consolation}

.jackNote@zen: 1, row: 7, col: 5, nous: 9 [Time: 1640 hrs, Super: #390 /
#9 - Inconstancy of Achievement, Practicing Placidity; I-Ching: H7 -
Army; Tetra: 32 - Legion, Ego: #290 / #9 - Inconstancy of Achievement,
Practicing Placidity; I-Ching: H7 - Army; Tetra: 32 - Legion]

MALE IDEA #390

#50, #200, #4, #80, #50, #6
נרדפנו radaph (H7291): 1) to be behind, follow after, pursue,
persecute, run after; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to pursue, put to flight, chase,
dog, attend closely upon; 1a2) to persecute, harass (fig); 1a3) to
follow after, aim to secure (fig); 1a4) to run after (a bribe) (fig);
1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to be pursued; 1b2) one pursued (participle); 1c)
(Piel) to pursue ardently, aim eagerly to secure, pursue; 1d) (Pual) to
be pursued, be chased away; 1e) (Hiphil) to pursue, chase;


FEMALE IDEA #290

#2, #5, #2, #1, #10, #70, #200
βεβαιοσ bebaios (G949): 1) stable, fast, firm; 2) metaph. sure, trusty;

[Rod]

On 5/19/2012 4:51 PM, dolf wrote:
> Liar Liar, pants on fire!

Good afternoon Dolt. How have you been ?

[Rod]

Why so negative Duke ?

[duke]

God said "if". He gave us a way back to himself after we fail (John 20:22-23)
and we WILL fail. It's our human nature. Some things are not as bad as other
things, but God made it clear that some things will never be forgiven in the
next life and those are sins against God himself (blasphemy against the Holy
Spirit). So we better make amends in this life.

[dolf]

Hey sod, I don't know you under this email address.

[vince garcia]

As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other

gospel unto you than that ye have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED.

--Apostle paul



John 1:1 DKV
Donna Kupp version

>"In the beginning was Jesus
> and Jesus was with THE RULER,
> and Jesus was Ruler.

vs

Everyone else's translations...
_______________________________________________________________________


John 1:1 CJB
Complete Jewish Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 ESV
English Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 HNV
Hebrew Names Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 KJV
King James Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 ASV
American Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 BBE
Bible in Basic English
From the first he was the Word, and the Word was in relation with God
and was God.


John 1:1 CEB
Common English Bible
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was
God.


John 1:1 RHE
Douay-Rheims
In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word
was God.

John 1:1 GW
GOD'S WORD Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and
the Word was God.

John 1:1 GNT
Good News Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and
the Word was God.


John 1:1 CSB
Holman Christian Standard
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 LEB
Lexham English Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.

New American Standard
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 NCV
New Century Version
In the beginning there was the Word. The Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 NIRV
New International Reader's Version
In the beginning, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and
the Word was God.


John 1:1 NIV
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 NKJV
New King James Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 NLT
New Living Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was
God.


John 1:1 NRS
New Revised Standard
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.

John 1:1 NWT
New World Translation (Jehovah's Witnesses)
1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was a god.

John 1:1 RSV
Revised Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.

John 1:1 DT
The Darby Translation
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 MSG
The Message
The Word was first, the Word present to God, God present to the Word.
The Word was God,


John 1:1 WBT
The Webster Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 TMB
Third Millennium Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 TNIV
Today's New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 WNT
Weymouth New Testament
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 WEB
World English Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.


John 1:1 WYC
Wycliffe
In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the
word. [In the beginning was the word, that is, God's Son, and the word
was at God, and God was the word.]


John 1:1 YLT
Young's Literal Translation
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God;




Well...this post shows an example of what Donna and Harold Kupp find it
necessary to do in order to promote THEIR version of Christ and the
Gospel: Rewrite one of the most important verses of scripture, and
pervert it into a ridiculous statement of BS ...for certainly every
Bible that dares render the greek (correctly) as "The word was God" MUST
be wrong.

Apparently, only Harold and Donna Kupp know how to translate scripture
correctly.

Perhaps they claim the anointing and authority of Joseph Smith as well?

As wrong as they are on their 'translation' here is as wrong as they are
on EVERY POINT OF DOCTRINE THEY HAVE.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his
subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is
in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth ANOTHER JESUS, whom we have not
preached, or if ye receive ANOTHER SPIRIT, which ye have not received,
or ANOTHER GOSPEL, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with
him.

--Apostle paul


Donna Kupp meets all 3 criteria

[dolf]

#35 / .jackNote@zen: 9, row: 4, col: 6, nous: 52 [Super: #416 / #25 -
What's behind it all?, Imaging the Mysterious; I-Ching: H62 - Small
Excess; Tetra: 10 - Defectiveness, Distortion, Ego: #349 / #52 - So
What?, Returning to the Origin; I-Ching: H45 - Congregation; Tetra: 61 -
Embellishment]

What I found it to be the most confronting of all conduct of those
persons I met during my residency within Kings Cross, Sydney. Was the
cantankerous, argumentative, disrespectful, disruptive and invective
manner of discourse in which some persons routinely engaged (and
electronically blocking of persons during dialog falls into this
category) as the normal and yet debatably, an entirely arbitrary mode of
socialising conduct. Firstly a conversation participant is reduced to a
stutter. This progresses towards an anxiety in a lingering faux
aspiration that there is actually any merit to having a discourse and
finally subsumes into a state of exhaustion simply by attempting to
finish a sentence. The whole process of clarity as speech and ideas
exchanged by anecdotal story is so impeded because the other party
intentionally is disruptive and deconstructionist as it labours over
every word, notional fact and idea uttered. If integrity is all about
keeping one’s word and deeds relative to time, then a person who engages
in such a mode of cantankerous and invective manner of discourse, might
be considered as antagonistic to the integrity of another person’s being.

Ahowlett1 (Manhunt Profile) 34yo of Sale ("Honesty Integrity and
Genuine"@1745 hrs): "Hi.. I've been single for about 18 months now and
been enjoying most of that time. It would be nice to met some interest
and genuine guys that understand the meaning of integrity as well. I'm
not necessarily looking for short term 'fun'.

I enjoy a wide variety [of] interests, from the usual to the not so
usual. It is very unlikely that you would find me in a pub or a club.
Though you might find me at a nice coffee place, restaurant, theatre,
show, etc..

Please don't ask for naked pics. That simply isn't going to happen.

Any questions? Ask away.."

dolf: "As I'm into a mathematical model of integrity and I don't think
I'd have anything to do with you.

I won't ask for pics cause I like men who are cock proud rather than
peacocks."

Ahowlett1 (Manhunt Profile) 34yo of Sale ("Honesty Integrity and
Genuine"@1745 hrs): "Sorry, did I miss something?"

dolf: "I was then unfairly blocked by “Ahowlett1 (Manhunt Profile) 34yo
of Sale” when I conveyed to him that: ‘Integrity is relative to time and
the noumenal reality’ and his response wasn’t uniquely anything but
simply a resonance with the following daemon of the attributed time.”

Barry OGrady (ath...@hotmail.com.au): “Ye do err, not knowing the
scriptures, nor the power of God. All things are possible for God.
Everything is always just as almighty God wants it.

Reality must seem weird to you.

That's true. Dolf is ignored because he is not rational. A person is in
prison in America because he called for the death of three judges.”

dolf: “Did I ever tell you about the time I went to the American
Consulate in Sydney and asked to them to intervene against Carl
McCaskey’s Internet conduct--Has he posted again since and whilst
holidaying in Guantanamo Bay?”

Gladys Swager (gsw...@gmail.com): “Not so!”

With respect to "Idealism in religious thought" I also defer to
Wikipedia 2008 comments as rational and reasonable. And with respect to
a critical examination of 'Relativism' and 'Idealism' the following is
an excerpt from Wikipedia 2008:

Relativism can be contrasted with:

Universalism: the view that facts can be discovered objectively and that
they thus apply universally in all situations, times and places.

Objectivism: the view that cognitive, aesthetic and ethical values are
independent of human thinking.

Absolutism: the view that beauty, truth, etc, are timeless and
unchanging qualities.

Monism: the view that in any given area there can be no more than one
correct opinion.

One argument for relativism suggests that our own cognitive bias
prevents us from observing something objectively with our own senses,
and notational bias will apply to whatever we can allegedly measure
without using our senses. In addition, we have a culture bias — shared
with other trusted observers — which we cannot eliminate. A
counterargument to this states that subjective certainty and concrete
objects and causes form part of our everyday life, and that there is no
great value in discarding such useful ideas as isomorphism, objectivity
and a final truth. (For more information on the "usefulness" of ideas,
see Pragmatism.)

Relativism is sometimes (though not always) interpreted as saying that
all points of view are equally valid, in contrast to an absolutism which
argues there is but one true and correct view. In fact, relativism
asserts that a particular instance Y exists only in combination with or
as a by-product of a particular framework or viewpoint X, and that no
framework or standpoint is uniquely privileged over all others. That is,
a non-universal trait Y (e.g., a particular practice, behaviour, custom,
convention, concept, belief, perception, ethics, truth, or conceptual
framework) is a dependent variable influenced by the independent
variable X (e.g., a particular language, culture, historical epoch, a
priori cognitive architecture, scientific frameworks, gender, ethnicity,
status, individuality).

Notably, this is not an argument that all instances of a certain kind of
framework (say, all languages) do not share certain basic universal
commonalities (say, grammatical structure and vocabulary) that
essentially define that kind of framework and distinguish it from other
frameworks (for example, linguists have criteria that define language
and distinguish it from the mere communication of other animals).
Moreover, relativism also presupposes philosophical realism in that
there are actual objective things in the world that are relative to
other real things. Moreover, relativism also assumes causality, as well
as a problematic web of relationships between various independent
variables and the particular dependent variables that they influence.

Nous: #41
Time: 11:35 hrs
Date: 2012.9.16
Torah: #20 #6 #100 %81 = #45
Dao: Playing with Reversal, Sameness in Difference
Tetra: #60 - Accumulation
I-Ching: H26 - Restraining Force

Latin: Exultabundus {God who gives joy} Alt: Lavyah {Desireless Nature
of God} {
1. HELPS RECOVER THE FRIENDSHIP OF THOSE WE'VE OFFENDED
2. WILLS
3. FRIENDLY DISTRIBUTION
4. Aphoso
}

Rehoboam {Who sets the people at liberty}

- http://www.grapple369.com/grapple.html?zen:4,row:5,col:5

MALE IDEA #222

ירזה
{#10, #200, #7, #5}

razah-famish [H7329]: #222
1) to be or become or grow lean
1a) (Qal) to make lean
1b) (Niphal) to be made lean

"And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be
made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean {razah-famish
[H7329]: #222}." [Isaiah 17:4]

"The LORD will be terrible unto them: for he will famish {razah-famish
[H7329]: #222} all the gods of the earth; and men shall worship him,
every one from his place, even all the isles of the heathen." [Zephaniah
2:11]

למוצאיהמ
{#30, #40, #6, #90, #1, #10, #5, #40}

mowtsa'-go [H4161]: #222
1) act or place of going out or forth, issue, export, source, spring
1a) a going forth
1a1) rising (sun), going forth of a command
1a2) goings forth, those going forth
1a3) way out, exit
1b) that which goes forth
1b1) utterance
1b2) export
1c) place of going forth
1c1) source or spring (of water)
1c2) place of departure
1c3) east (of sun)
1c4) mine (of silver)

"But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard
them; then whatsoever proceeded {mowtsa'-go [H4161]: #222} out of her
lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not
stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her."
[Numbers 30:12]

יעקבמ
{#10, #70, #100, #2, #40}

`aqab-supplant [H6117]: #222
1) to supplant, circumvent, take by the heel, follow at the heel, assail
insidiously, overreach
1a) (Qal) to supplant, overreach, attack at the heel
1b) (Piel) to hold back

"And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted
{`aqab-supplant [H6117]: #222} me these two times: he took away my
birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he
said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me?" [Genesis 27:36]

FEMALE IDEA #352

אפרסיא
{#1, #80, #200, #60, #10, #1}

'Apharecay (Aramaic)-Apharsites [H670]: #352
1) an unknown office
2) (BDB) secretaries
3) (TWOT) perhaps a title of an official

"Then wrote Rehum the chancellor, and Shimshai the scribe, and the rest
of their companions; the Dinaites, the Apharsathchites, the Tarpelites,
the Apharsites {'Apharecay (Aramaic)-Apharsites [H670]: #352}, the
Archevites, the Babylonians, the Susanchites, the Dehavites, and the
Elamites," [Ezra 4:9]

שבנ
{#300, #2, #50}

ben-son [H1121]: #352
1) son, grandson, child, member of a group
1a) son, male child
1b) grandson
1c) children (pl. - male and female)
1d) youth, young men (pl.)
1e) young (of animals)
1f) sons (as characterisation, ie sons of injustice [for un- righteous
men] or sons of God [for angels]
1g) people (of a nation) (pl.)
1h) of lifeless things, ie sparks, stars, arrows (fig.)
1i) a member of a guild, order, class

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy
conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children {ben-son [H1121]:
#352}; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over
thee." [Genesis 3:16]

- http://www.grapple369.com/index_files/carl_and_gov_bush.jpg

American ‘Baptist Christian’ Identity as Historical Revisionism, Moral
Relativism and Nihilistic Rationalistic Idealism

Carl McCaskey with Governor Bush
[image dated 02-Jul-2005]

(ru) dolf: "Carl continues to have no answers 'I demand you cease and
desist contacting me via email. If you wish to respond to something
posted on Usenet NG's then respond there. Unsolicited emails from you
after requests to cease is harassment by email and a violation of your
emailer's terms of service. Again, cease and desist contacting me via
email.'" [Carl McCaskey (sai...@nettally.com) Sent: Sunday 16 November
2008 5:50:57 PM]

MikeSmith (antarcti...@yahoo.com): "This guy is a loon. And he's
monitoring this entire discussion on his site! It's all there!"

Krudd the Dudd (let's.have.a...@nodecisions.com / Individual.net):
"Still waiting for you to serve the papers LOL!

Please don't wear a dress when you come to the door; do try to look like
the man you pretend to be. Turd Burglars get bitten by dogs in my
neighbourhood."

(ru) dolf: "And when we finish with you and your ilk at court, next we
will pursue those who tolerated your abuses as fascism for so long!

We will ask them to explain publicly and without a prepared statement,
why they did so!"

Mr. Peter Bowditch (The Quintessence of a Loon): "Or is it the action
threatened on 26 August 2006, when you said: 'A remedy will be sought to
the claim of a religious and racial vilification under Section 8 as
Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001 Act No.
47/2001, will be sustained by a Natural Law, Common Law and
Constitutional Rights argument (see CD ROM), and that will be a made in
perpetuity, against your right to procreate within the Australian
Commonwealth?'

Is there any precedent case which ruled that someone would lose the
right to "procreate within the Australian Commonwealth"?

You might like to reconsider the promise I made when you first started
blowing smoke and mouth foam in my direction: "If you go ahead, I
promise to notify every television station, radio station and print
outlet in Australia that I can reach of your theory as expressed on your
web site and of the fact that you lost badly in the VCAT hearing. I will
also point out to them your hypocrisy, in that you expect the right of
freedom to say whatever you like on your web site but will not extend
that courtesy to me. I also promise to publicly ridicule you at every
opportunity, although the approximately 9,700 Usenet messages from you
archived in Google Groups indicate that you are perfectly capable of
doing this yourself.

The 9,700 number is obviously now out of date."

(ru) dolf: "That a common element in the Internet based racial,
religious and sexual vilification is your www-page--which continues to
this day. And that I have shown you every patience and courtesy in your
consideration of removal of references to my www-page from your
Philately of Loons and Millennium sites."

Mr. Peter Bowditch (The Quintessence of a Loon): "The web site is called
"Quintessence of the Loon" (and has nothing to do with philately). You
are a quintessential loon. I'm sorry if that prevents you from
understanding rationality."

Zytheran (Nigel Dobson-Keeffe the Healthy Internet Hobbyist): "Yeah, he
has a, ahem, 'stalker' persona ... It's all on the web... looks
impressive but is wrong.

OK, the 'lactose intolerant' would be from when I set up the world's
first web site for milk allergy back in 1993. The site isn't around but
I'm referenced in books about milk allergy and lactose intolerance. No
I'm not lactose intolerant.

'Las Vegas based'! Haha, that's funny. That's because my name comes up
on the Las Vegas atheists because I did a talk there just after TAM6
(The Amaz!ng Meeting 6, held on 19-22 June in Las Vegas) titled
"Rational Irrationality". It's on their meet-up site I think. He doesn't
even notice that "Rational Irrational" is the title of the public talk I
give.

Dolf is taking a guess at the "godless" because of the atheist link, and
the fascist because he's trying to be insulting. Sorry Dolf, fail.

The bit about "technology specialist" is taken from the website of the
Australian Skeptics. (Sort of clashes with being Las Vegas based don't
ya think??) I have no idea where he gets "former president" from, I
still am!"

MikeSmith (antarcti...@yahoo.com): “Has anyone noticed a real
similarity between the floridly verbose circumlocution of Good King Dolf
of Barkingmad, and the Skeptics Guide to the Universe forum's own Larry
King Live {ie. this lack of originality is perhaps double speak for the
David Letterman show which was especially evident during the writer's
strike}?

Check this out, they might be brothers: "In kind have taken your most
well constructed and thought provoking suggestion to heart. Indeed I
have consulted with a most noble and well synchronized Man of the
Dictionary, a Dictionarian, as you have suggested calling him. He has
done the grandiose pleasure of, first, supping at my table for
nourishment and socialiality, and second, to share with this person,
'words of yore' as he most eloquently and flamboyantly exclaimed."

Are they one and the same? Related? Is Larry King Live parodying Dolf?
Is one a reptilian clone of the other that can read the other's mind?
Dolf, perhaps you have the answer for this.

Let us know on your website, where you are terrifying us all by your
continuous monitoring and silent condemnation of the people in this thread."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Since you have offered no questions, it is simple
logic that there is nothing you have presented to answer. Quite the
contrary, you have been asked many things of which you have yet to
respond. And actually your posts (and your little website) have
contained nothing but inane, incoherent, irrational ramblings. I think
you may be in need of psychological counselling with proper medications.

Let's look at a specific section of the terms of service your agreed to
when you signed up with Hotmail.

It reads:---

You agree to use the Communication Services only to post, send and
receive messages and material that are proper and, when applicable,
related to the particular Communication Service. By way of example, and
not as a limitation, you agree that when using the Communication
Services, you will not:

Use the Communication Services in connection with surveys, contests,
pyramid schemes, chain letters, junk email, spamming or any duplicative
or unsolicited messages (commercial or otherwise).
Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal
rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.
Since you are now engaging in sending unsolicited emails and then
continuing when asked to cease and desist you are violating their terms
of service and are engaging in Internet harassment. This not only
threatens your Internet account, but even in Australia, it could lead to
civil and/or criminal prosecution. If you truly have lawyers at your
disposal (I doubt you have but for the sake of example let's say you
have) they will inform you that your current choice of behaviour is
indeed Internet abuse.

You have been duly informed."

(ru) dolf: "That you are a gluttonous American piece of Christian white
trash engaging in racial, sexual and religious vilification--And without
regard for the ability of my Torah and Daoist compliant Christian belief
to transcend cultural boundaries."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "The name of my blog is 'The World According To
Carl' and as I have clarified to you on multiple occasions, I am not a
member of any Baptist denomination (although most of them are Biblically
sound and I support them). Try comprehending that little tidbit. You
have no legal case."

Rodney Eastman: "You track my posts across the groups, you respond to me
in this group by slandering me, then you begin the slander and insults
again just because I posted at all ?? And I'm not supposed to believe
that you've been stalking me for some ungodly purpose? How about your
response to Pat (thewayt...@webtv.net) in another group, when he was
trying to speak to me. Did Pat or I invite you to step in and slander
me? No, you volunteered to do it because you're a malcontent, a hate
monger and a chronic trouble maker. Of course, as in the other post so
in this one. I am entitled to my opinion. Oh yes, I still have your
emails and the headers, I'll bet that you don't!"

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Pat H, you have made it abundantly clear of your
disdain and possibly even hatred of Baptists. You constantly harp on
what your perceive as 'no Baptist is willing to discuss/debate
Scripture' with you (or words to that effect). Since I am not Baptist
nor a debater, I am asking some Internet acquaintances who are Baptist
if they would be willing to discuss and/or debate with you regarding any
Scriptural topic you care to discuss. I heard back promptly from one, a
gentleman by the name of Frank Turk. He has formally invited you to come
to his blog at http://q-and-a-blog.blogspot.com/ to engage him in
discussions and/or debate. Frank wrote, 'tell [Pat H] I have never
turned anyone away who would agree to ask questions and give answers
when asked.' So it's time to 'put up or shut up' as the saying goes."

Barry OGrady (mrha...@iinet.net.au): "Dolf's mind is too far gone for
him to comprehend anything."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Besides, there are no jurisdictional powers of
your country in the United States regarding this accusation (which is
meritless incidentally). So your threat of legal action is moot,
meaningless and laughable. You have claimed you have legal
representation (I doubt you do) so consult with them and they will tell
you how ridiculous your accusations are. Again you're rambling
incoherently and ignorantly now with some feeble bluster. Furthermore,
being offended is not probable cause for any legal action."

Barry OGrady (mrha...@iinet.net.au): "I like the way you order God to
do something good. You are wasting your time though. God never does
anything good."

(ru) dolf: "That there will now be a permanent enmity between myself and
Baptists (particularly American) as those who attempt on the basis of
that irrational and deceitful claim to Christian identity to impugn my
autonomic right--Pastor Rowland Croucher (Melbourne, Australia) is
particularly in this group for turning a blind eye to Internet abuses
over the past 12 years."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "dolf, apparently your didn't pay attention to my
earlier post to you so I will clarify once again: I am not a member of
any Baptist denomination. As to 'Internet abuses' I suggest you read
Hotmail/MSN's terms of service of which you agreed when you signed up
for their service. I included the relevant portions above."

(ru) dolf: "Isn't Kudos from the Greek κῦδος (not to be confused with
κύδος "taunt"), kydos, (literally "that which is heard of") means "fame"
and "renown" resulting from an act or achievement? [ref: Wikipedia 2008]

It is not harassment to send a copy of my newsgroup replies to you
privately--This I will continue to do."

carl (Carl McCaskey): "Dolf, you make no sense. May God bless!"

(ru) dolf: "Which statement did you have particular difficulty
with--after all Christian identity is all about UNDERSTANDING as
HYPOSTATIS?"

carl (Carl McCaskey): "You've offered nothing coherent in which to
respond. No answers are necessary when no question has been raised. Your
ramblings aren't making sense to anyone."

Michael Christ (jesus...@father.com): "As God strolls through the
Earth He moves what He desires to move and stills what He desires to
still." [0505 hrs 9 November 2008]

Raymond (rwk...@aim.com): "Do not show how foolish you are by such
silly statements, for one thing God does not stroll through the Earth, a
demon may do such and try to still them that disobey God."

Barry OGrady (mrha...@iinet.net.au): "Do not show how foolish you are
by such silly statements. There are no demons."

Raymond (rwk...@aim.com): "Oh yes there is such, I have casted them out
of a few people that were insane and after prayer their mind was normal.
Then I would have no problem believing if you keep denying them you
could well have a demon in your spirit or soul, then I wonder if you
don't believe in that either? Then again you select only a limited view
that fits what you want. I just checked with the dictionary and one
meaning of demon is this: "A cruel wicked and inhuman person" and we all
know a lot of those kind of demons such as Adolf Hitler, chairman Mao
and lots of folks walking this world today. Not only some supernatural
being, could also be someone that is extremely diligent or skillful.
Check it out. What you did was show how foolish you are by your statements."

The following commentary on "Idealism in religious thought" was obtained
from Wikipedia 2008: "A broad enough definition of idealism could
include most religious viewpoints. The belief that personal beings (eg:
God/s, angels & spirits) preceded the existence of insentient matter
seems to suggest that an experiencing subject is a necessary reality.
Also, the existence of an omniscient God suggests, regardless of the
actual nature of matter, that all of nature is the object of at least
one consciousness.

Materialism sees no incoherence in a scenario of there being a cosmos
where no sentient subject ever develops; a wholly unknown universe where
neither any subject, nor any object of a subject's experience ever
exists. Historically, Mechanistic Materialism has been the favourite
viewpoint of Atheist philosophers. Still, idealistic viewpoints that
have not included God, supernatural beings, or a post-mortem existence
have sometimes been advanced."

Barry OGrady (ath...@hotmail.com.au): “You live in a fantasy world.

You even failed the Turing Test.”

Manifestly by such besieging and unnatural conduct as invention of
nonsense, diversions and delusions which is made relative to time as a
psychological distress.

Barry OGrady (ath...@hotmail.com.au): “Are you saying God wants to be
mocked by his creations?”

Nous: #63
Time: 17:45 hrs
Date: 2012.12.18
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap

Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {Physician; cure}

- http://www.grapple369.com/grapple.html?zen:2,row:7,col:8

νοηματα

noema-mind (G3540): #470 = #50, #70, #8, #40, #1, #300, #1

1) a mental perception, thought
2) an evil purpose
3) that which thinks, the mind, thoughts or purposes

בקרי

qeriy-contrary (H7147): #312 = #2, #100, #200, #10

1) opposition, contrariness, encounter, contrary or hostile encounter

יבקר

baqar-enquire (H1239): #312 = #10, #2, #100, #200

1) to seek, enquire, consider
1a) (Piel)
1a1) to seek, look for
1a2) to consider, reflect

If that furious behaviour escalates to a vital point where I consider it
to be less than healthily robust and is then as a domestic disputation,
entirely disruptive of the peace within my residential area as my
obligations for single occupancy as quietude under the Tenancy
Agreement. As an adverse and disagreeable argumentative conduct which is
then manifestly disrespectful to such a flagrant degree, that it might
be considered a brutalisation and breach of the law requiring police
attendance and intervention. I’ve sought to have those persons
voluntarily leave the abode where in is my presence of being as their
chastisement and punishment for such iniquity. In every instance, they
have done so without recourse to violence and consequently there has
been no need for police attendance.

Accordingly, there has not ever been a breach of the peace within my
rental premises and any failure of my peaceable obligations as single
occupancy as quietude under the Tenancy Agreement.

#36 / .jackNote@zen: 9, row: 4, col: 9, nous: 55 [Super: #376 / #74 -
Controlling Feelings, Overcome Delusion; I-Ching: H39 - Obstacles;
Tetra: 80 - Labouring, Ego: #317 / #55 - Abstruse Mysterious Signs;
I-Ching: H22 - Grace; Tetra: 54 - Unity]

[dolf]

Today God and me got together, to decide a demise he would bring about
for me in such a comprehensive & shocking manner that it would startle
even the indifferent & drive them to action--excepting rampaging
Islamists protesting over tarnished books. He made them silent & afraid,
stunned by the spectacle of what it means to have God with me.

Drag your souless animal carcass away from our fellowship Vince Garcia
lest the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bestows further calamity
upon thee.

[duke]

If you can't discuss the issues with him, he knows more than you do.