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Timothy Meyers

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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Hi.

I was thinking we could maintain a "twitlist" like alt.atheism. I didn't
bring this up before because of the hostile nature of this group, everyone
would eventually be twitlisted. The christian trolls would twitlist all
the non-christians and then vice-versa. However, Jerkel certainly needs
some recognition so we could try this...

To be twitlisted, one must have five votes from people who may not be
regulars, but we've at least "seen around" and COULD be regulars. Jerkel
would get a vote because of, um, his recent "influence".

HOWEVER, there must be AT LEAST two votes from christians AND two votes
from non-christians. A true twit will be recognized by his or her own side
and so there will be no biases.

SO...let's start it up...I vote one for Jerkel, one for Neil. Believe it
or not, I'm going to be nice enough to leave Saga off the list (although
I'm sure he'll mention my name) because he makes an attempt to reason
(albeit with lies and sorry-assed jokes).

Please participate, everyone. I'll take the votes off list, and keep them
confidential, but they'll also be accepted on list (especially since I can
expect a number of nominations for myself) with justification arguments if
desired. If you're regular enough to be counted, I won't need to ask if
you are xtian or non. I'll keep track of them anyway, since you'll still
have posts to back you up if you think "I cheated". Anyway, let's go! :)

NEIL JERKEL
0 0 X
1 1 N

-tim-

Matt Noonan

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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Timothy Meyers wrote:

You could maintain a Who-Is-A-Twit FAQ, in rebellion against the other FAQs
or something.. ;)

Matt


Timothy Meyers

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Matt Noonan <twi...@bbs.compfind.com> wrote:


: Timothy Meyers wrote:

Yeah! Now I'M the "moderation guy". ;)

Now vote! :)
-tim-

jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On 28 Nov 1998 00:39:12 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
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>I was thinking we could maintain a "twitlist" like alt.atheism.

Hmmm. I could add it to the FAQ. OK. Thanks Tim for the idea.

Timothy Meyers

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jac...@melbpc.org.au <jac...@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
: On 28 Nov 1998 00:39:12 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
: wrote:

:>I was thinking we could maintain a "twitlist" like alt.atheism.

: Hmmm. I could add it to the FAQ. OK. Thanks Tim for the idea.

This should be interesting. ;)

Do you mean my twitlist, an unbiased democracy of the group, or yours,
which will obviously be a biased monarchy?

Anyway, I'm going to proceed to ignore this and get back to encouraging
you folkses to VOTE. Matt? Jerkel?
-tim-

Matt Noonan

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Timothy Meyers wrote:

Neil is indeed a twit, and I don't mind saying so. The rest of my
opinions, I'm going to keep to myself.. ;)

Matt


Timothy Meyers

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Matt Noonan <twi...@bbs.compfind.com> wrote:

: Timothy Meyers wrote:

So another vote for Neil. Prolly only a matter of time 'til Jerkel gets on
your nerves, too, and I'll be waiting to tally that up. ;D
-tim-

jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On 28 Nov 1998 01:11:12 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
wrote:

>Anyway, I'm going to proceed to ignore this

Oh, please, please do! Promises, promises! :-)

The FAQ list might best be called a FOOL list.

>Do you mean my twitlist, an unbiased democracy of the group, or yours,
>which will obviously be a biased monarchy?

Don't know what you mean Tim, but I see that you continue to think
that democracy is a/one source of your authority. But all too often
it is just pooled foolishness, as we've seen here with you et al.

>Anyway, I'm going to proceed to ignore this and get back to encouraging
>you folkses to VOTE.

Vote Tim #1

Timothy Meyers

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jac...@melbpc.org.au <jac...@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
: On 28 Nov 1998 01:11:12 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
: wrote:

:>Anyway, I'm going to proceed to ignore this

: Oh, please, please do! Promises, promises! :-)

: The FAQ list might best be called a FOOL list.

:>Do you mean my twitlist, an unbiased democracy of the group, or yours,
:>which will obviously be a biased monarchy?

: Don't know what you mean Tim, but I see that you continue to think
: that democracy is a/one source of your authority. But all too often
: it is just pooled foolishness, as we've seen here with you et al.

Uhm...no, my democracy means democracy...I'm not getting more of a vote
than anyone else. Are you trying to maintain your own list, or are you
talking about mine? That was my obvious question, and one you neglected to
answer.

:>Anyway, I'm going to proceed to ignore this and get back to encouraging
:>you folkses to VOTE.

: Vote Tim #1
Ah, so it is a vote...is it the twitlist I'm keeping track of/maintaining?
Can I assume this is a vote for me?

-tim-

jac...@melbpc.org.au

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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On 28 Nov 1998 01:47:12 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
wrote:

>: Don't know what you mean Tim, but I see that you continue to think


>: that democracy is a/one source of your authority. But all too often
>: it is just pooled foolishness, as we've seen here with you et al.

>Uhm...no, my democracy means democracy

You're avoiding the issue Tim - again!

It must be because you don't have a valid answer and know you're
wrong.

Is your authority merely the (majority) opinions of people?

SagaLore

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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<snip>

>SO...let's start it up...I vote one for Jerkel, one for Neil. Believe it
>or not, I'm going to be nice enough to leave Saga off the list (although
>I'm sure he'll mention my name) because he makes an attempt to reason
>(albeit with lies and sorry-assed jokes).
<snip>

I'm not sure whether this was a compliment or a cheap shot... ;D

MiSSY

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what about agnostics. are they considered non?
I just recently read some of jackels posts and I submit my vote for him, I
would have voted for you or neil but this guy/gal has struck my nerve

jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:40:41 -0500, "MiSSY" <IndBl...@mailcity.com>
wrote:

>
>what about agnostics. are they considered non?
>I just recently read some of jackels posts and I submit my vote for him, I
>would have voted for you or neil but this guy/gal has struck my nerve

Don't be nervous sweetie. I'm in your blood...


David Shipley

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>
> NEIL JERKEL
> 0 0 X
> 1 1 N
>
> -tim-

I'll do one for Jerkel
--
---------------
Anla'Shok Dave
We Live for the Cats
We Die for the Cats
---------------
May his merciful paw fall upon you

Timothy Meyers

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MiSSY <IndBl...@mailcity.com> wrote:

: what about agnostics. are they considered non?

Yes. Are you an agnostic? I always thought you to be christian.
: I just recently read some of jackels posts and I submit my vote for him, I


: would have voted for you or neil but this guy/gal has struck my nerve

Ah. Thank you for your input. You can have more than one vote, BTW.
-tim-

Marissa

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After his current posting on how men are supposedly oppressed by women and
his obvious ignorance about feminism, I vote Jerkel.

Marissa

Timothy Meyers

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Marissa, your newsgroup thanks you. ;) One christian vote and Jerkel will
be the first to be twitlisted! He has 1 xtian vote, 4 misc. The clock is
ticking. ;)

BTW, Jerkel, did you vote for me or not? That was never clarified.
-tim-

Marissa <mw...@sprint.ca> wrote:
: After his current posting on how men are supposedly oppressed by women and

Steven Schrader

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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On 28 Nov 1998, Matt Noonan wrote:

> Timothy Meyers wrote:
>
> > jac...@melbpc.org.au <jac...@melbpc.org.au> wrote:

> > : On 28 Nov 1998 00:39:12 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>


> > : wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, I'm going to proceed to ignore this and get back to encouraging

> > you folkses to VOTE. Matt? Jerkel?
> > -tim-
>
> Neil is indeed a twit, and I don't mind saying so. The rest of my
> opinions, I'm going to keep to myself.. ;)

I'm not sure if I feel like voting on something like this or not, I'll
think about it..

Although, I'm not sure if I _want_ to give twits anymore attention then
they already seem to be..

Later,
---
Steven Schrader
The Musician's Homepage - "http://www.enteract.com/~digialex/"
"I got well by talking. Death could not get a word in edgewise,
grew discouraged, and traveled on." - Louise Erdrich


Steven Schrader

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Looks like both to me. :)

Steven Schrader

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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On 28 Nov 1998, Timothy Meyers wrote:

> Marissa, your newsgroup thanks you. ;) One christian vote and Jerkel will
> be the first to be twitlisted! He has 1 xtian vote, 4 misc. The clock is
> ticking. ;)

Oh, okay. One vote for Linday Jerkel). :)

jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:41:55 -0600, "Marissa" <mw...@sprint.ca> wrote:

>After his current posting on how men are supposedly oppressed by women and
>his obvious ignorance about feminism, I vote Jerkel.
>
>Marissa

Who is she, this masked Jerkel?!

Be warned love, Tim says that we can have more than one vote per
person.


jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On 28 Nov 1998 17:09:55 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
wrote:

>Marissa, your newsgroup thanks you. ;) One christian vote and Jerkel will
>be the first to be twitlisted! He has 1 xtian vote, 4 misc. The clock is
>ticking. ;)
>

>BTW, Jerkel, did you vote for me or not? That was never clarified.
>-tim-

Boy! If we know who this Jerkel was it would be interesting wouldn't
it?!!!

Who's the 'christian'?

I'm not participating is such a silly list designed to vilify and
silence discussion. It only draws attention to people.

In fact, I've always though it silly that people who detest/hate
others (eg politicians) will go around with the object of their hate's
name on their car, in the form a bumper sticker, etc.

Steven Schrader

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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, jac...@melbpc.org.au wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:41:55 -0600, "Marissa" <mw...@sprint.ca> wrote:
>
> >After his current posting on how men are supposedly oppressed by women and
> >his obvious ignorance about feminism, I vote Jerkel.
> >
> >Marissa
>
> Who is she, this masked Jerkel?!

On the off chance that you really don't know, "Jerkel" is a take off of
your last name. Congrats, you've been given a nickname. ;)



> Be warned love, Tim says that we can have more than one vote per
> person.

Meaning you can vote for more than one person, correct Tim?

Steven Schrader

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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, jac...@melbpc.org.au wrote:

> I'm not participating is such a silly list designed to vilify and
> silence discussion. It only draws attention to people.

Huh, yet you were going to include it in your FAQ..

MiSSY

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>Don't be nervous sweetie. I'm in your blood...
>

Blood....coagulating.....bile...rising up in throat.....lunch.....spewed all
over keyboard...

;-)

Steven Schrader

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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, jac...@melbpc.org.au wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:32:52 -0600, Steven Schrader
> <digi...@enteract.com> wrote:
>
> >Huh, yet you were going to include it in your FAQ..
>

> Given I'm not God, I'm allowed to change my mind. :-)

Fair enough.

> It's not my FAQ!

Who's is it?

> I'm told it may have a description of fools! :-)

So it _will_ have a twitlist?

MiSSY

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>Yes. Are you an agnostic? I always thought you to be christian.

ok, look at it this way. To the atheists and agnostics I will act and
respond to them in a more christian manner, to the christians I will
probably respond more like an atheist or agnostic. I dont think I can
classify myself yet

>Ah. Thank you for your input. You can have more than one vote, BTW.
How generous, I'll make more judgements later

Steven Schrader

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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, MiSSY wrote:

> >Yes. Are you an agnostic? I always thought you to be christian.

> ok, look at it this way. To the atheists and agnostics I will act and
> respond to them in a more christian manner, to the christians I will
> probably respond more like an atheist or agnostic. I dont think I can
> classify myself yet

I've done the same myself in the past. It's an interesting way to poke at
your own beliefs, and certainly a good way to get some perspective on
things. Good luck to you!

jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:32:52 -0600, Steven Schrader
<digi...@enteract.com> wrote:

>Huh, yet you were going to include it in your FAQ..

Given I'm not God, I'm allowed to change my mind. :-)

It's not my FAQ!

I'm told it may have a description of fools! :-)


Timothy Meyers

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Steven Schrader <digi...@enteract.com> wrote:

: On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, jac...@melbpc.org.au wrote:

:> I'm not participating is such a silly list designed to vilify and
:> silence discussion. It only draws attention to people.

: Huh, yet you were going to include it in your FAQ..
Heh. He's silencing my list. :D Honestly, his jabs at what "censorship"
is crack me up. Since when is a public opinion poll a form of
censorship???
-tim-

: Later,

Timothy Meyers

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jac...@melbpc.org.au <jac...@melbpc.org.au> wrote:

: On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:41:55 -0600, "Marissa" <mw...@sprint.ca> wrote:

:>After his current posting on how men are supposedly oppressed by women and
:>his obvious ignorance about feminism, I vote Jerkel.
:>
:>Marissa

: Who is she, this masked Jerkel?!

: Be warned love, Tim says that we can have more than one vote per
: person.
I'm sure she's terribly afraid...like anyone would agree with you.
-tim-

Timothy Meyers

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Steven Schrader <digi...@enteract.com> wrote:

: On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, jac...@melbpc.org.au wrote:

:> On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:41:55 -0600, "Marissa" <mw...@sprint.ca> wrote:
:>
:> >After his current posting on how men are supposedly oppressed by women and
:> >his obvious ignorance about feminism, I vote Jerkel.
:> >
:> >Marissa
:>
:> Who is she, this masked Jerkel?!

: On the off chance that you really don't know, "Jerkel" is a take off of


: your last name. Congrats, you've been given a nickname. ;)

:
:> Be warned love, Tim says that we can have more than one vote per
:> person.

: Meaning you can vote for more than one person, correct Tim?
Yes, you can vote for as many people as you wish. I'm waiting for Jerkel
to go ahead and nominate everybody. Like it would matter. ;D

jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On 29 Nov 1998 00:39:12 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
wrote:

>: On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, jac...@melbpc.org.au wrote:
>

>:> I'm not participating is such a silly list designed to vilify and
>:> silence discussion. It only draws attention to people.
>
>: Huh, yet you were going to include it in your FAQ..
>Heh. He's silencing my list. :D Honestly, his jabs at what "censorship"
>is crack me up. Since when is a public opinion poll a form of
>censorship???
>-tim-

Tim, You really are a very silly person. No where here in this
discussion was censorhip mentioned.

It appears that you are the one who really likes to create something
out of nothing.

If all your gods are created that way, I'm not surprised you'd think
other people do the same, but they don't and there is a REAL and TRUE
GOD and He knows your name Tim, and what's more He loves you!

Dobbin

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jac...@melbpc.org.au wrote in message
<366f873c...@news.melbpc.org.au>...
>On 28 Nov 1998 17:09:55 GMT, Timothy Meyers <tcme...@use.usit.net>
>wrote:
>

>Who's the 'christian'?
>
>I'm not participating is such a silly list designed to vilify and
>silence discussion. It only draws attention to people.
>
>In fact, I've always though it silly that people who detest/hate
>others (eg politicians) will go around with the object of their hate's
>name on their car, in the form a bumper sticker, etc.

Thats it, I thought so. You're not a christian you're a politician.
That explains your inability to answer a simple question.

Dobbin


jac...@melbpc.org.au

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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:37:09 -0000, "Dobbin" <i...@dial.pipex.com>
wrote:

>>In fact, I've always though it silly that people who detest/hate
>>others (eg politicians) will go around with the object of their hate's
>>name on their car, in the form a bumper sticker, etc.
>
>Thats it, I thought so. You're not a christian you're a politician.
>That explains your inability to answer a simple question.
>
>Dobbin

YOU ARE WRONG! :-)


nlg...@hotmail.com

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In article <366d86fe...@news.melbpc.org.au>,

Can I nominate that for argument of the week?

JMHO,
Jon

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