Yep, Ikeda is Dead and the SGI is Covering it Up.

[Jack Fate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sgiwhistleblowers/comments/3y5v85/japanese_people_think_daisaku_ikeda_died_this/

[Chas.]

The Self-Appointed High Priest +

Like I said, his photo is in the recent World Tribune, where he and Kaneko attended an art exhibit.

Can Michael Cody show us a recent picture of the Transfer Box authenticating the Nichiren Shoshu High Priest Nichinyo (a well-known thug) as not being a "fake" High Priest appointed by the "self-appointed" High Priest, Nikken? See the truth here:

http://www.nstemple.org/

-Chas.

[Jack Fate]

Chas. wrote:
> The Self-Appointed High Priest +
>
> Like I said, his photo is in the recent World Tribune, where he and Kaneko attended an art exhibit.

Yet you can't provide it. I suffer Straw Man Arguments so stick that
shit up your cult brainwashed ass.

[Chas.]

It wasn't an article, it was a photo with a caption from April 26, 2017 Tokyo in the July 14th, 2017 issue of the World Tribune, page 3.

And most recently in an article in the October 13th, 2017 issue, page 8 of the World Tribune. Sensei and Kaneko visited the Kanagawa Culture Center for a meeting with members.

Hence, Michael Cody and Reddit spew lies that are so easily objectively refuted as to be pathetic.

However, they have no Transfer Box to authenticate the validity of their fake High Priest, the thug Nichinyo "self-appointed" High Priest, Nikken? See the truth here:

http://www.nstemple.org/

Where's the Transfer Box, Michael Cody?

-Chas.

[Jack Fate]

Damn, five copy and pastes.

[Chas.]

You asked for proof, I gave it. What more do you want ... oh yeah, you won't accept proof rebutting your lies anyway.

However, at least I offered the proof sincerely and your lies are now plainly just that: lies.

-Chas.

[Jack Fate]

You offered no proof. Do you really think i will just take your word for
it? Show me the photos. You fucking can't.

[Chas.]

That is, once again, a blatant lie out of the mouth of Michael Cody, which is just standard operating procedure from you.

I gave you the dates and the page numbers in the World Tribune, you just have to get off your ass and get a copy from someone you know that has a subscription. I'm sure someone in your Danto network has a subscription, if only to gain intelligence. Go seek, and they'll email you a copy: this newsgroup does not support binaries.

-Chas.

[Jack Fate]

You're repeating yourself. I already answered this stupidity on another
thread. Try to keep up, old man.

[Chas.]

An evasion is not an answer, follow up and get a copy yourself. I am not going to give you a pointer to a digital image that you can doctor in some foul manner, or in a website you can hack. I know you r lot too well to fall into that trap. Get a print copy of the World Tribune yourself.

-Chas.

[Jack Fate]

Translation: Chas has been caught with his pants down and now he's doing
the back pedal break dance in a lame attempt to distract from his
inability to prove that Ikeda isn't dead.

[daisie...@gmail.com]

Chas,

Your organisation are the thugs. Remember WW2 when SGI
beat up a Priest? If someone doesn't agree with the SGI
organisation, your organisation hacks their computers
illegally, excommunicates their own members, chants AT them
to die or get hurt, attacks their character, buys them off,
or uses them, so they SHUT UP. So, aim that finger where
it belongs, BOZO!

I think you ought to stop calling High Priests thugs IF
if you can't even handle correcting a Priest in some way
that's HUMANE. Just a suggestion! Especially because it's
not the Priests who need correcting.

I don't see SGI changing their karma by using their own
Buddhist practices to change their karma, YET SGI most
CERTAINLY asks everyone else to do things in this way.

You waste your time trying to convince anyone that SGI is
humane, Chas! Remember your daimoku tosos to ruin the temple?
Remember Mr. Ikeda saying that all the people that didn't
agree with SGI would suffer or die in agony in his POEMS (2).

I don't see your point and I probably never will, due to the
fact I went to an SGI funeral to pay respects to someone.
Being NST at the time, I was attacked verbally no less than
3 times DURING the activity. I don't recommend it to anyone
BTW.

You really need to look at your own organisation's actions for
a change Chas., before you blame others for what they do.

Cart before the horse!

dfd

[Katie Higgins]

The battle rages on! The "funi-twins"-- part XIX?

Before Jack & daisie make another claim about "bogus SGI" , maybe they would like to discuss a few pretty bizarre practices at the Head Temple-- Chanting to "a tooth" that is enshrined as a "relic of Nichiren", for instance-- And their failure to produce for proper scrutiny their so-called "secret transfer" documents!

Yes, there was a publicized "spilt" between SGI/NST-- but closer examination shows there are more similarities than differences between the two-- and the most telling is the heretical doctrines BOTH are propagating ; "Nichiren as Original Buddha" and "Daimoku "as separate and prior to the Lotus sutra, "the name of an entity", rather than the TITLE of the Buddha's highest teaching.

Want more proof that SGI/NST are ":equally bogus"-- ? Check out the archives here on arbn-- and note the depth of depravity shown by both sides with regard to attacks on the other WHILE never reconciling the erroneous doctrines they BOTH propagate.

Want to have a dcotrinal debate with SGI/NST --?? Good luck, they both hide behind personal insults aimed at their challengers and their own self-professed superiority!

~Katie

[Chas.]

I'll tell you one thing, Denise Gold, Katie is right that the purpose of NST and their fake High Priests is to destroy the Fuji School and you are aiding and abetting that purpose. Not that y'all will succeed, of course.

You are "singing the song" and "carrying water" for the statue-worshiping traitorous priests, the sons of the Five Senior Priests who betrayed Nichiren Daishonin after he died, to falsely deify Shakyamuni as a man-God like Jesus, or as God Almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth, like Jehovah. If you like that outcome, I hope you feel happy with it, because you are going to be wearing that like a tattooed-skin for kalpas.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

SGI follows the same kanto Tendai corrupt priests who became Shoshu - ; SGI’s “daddy” same heretical doctrines -. 💤💤💤

Why don’t you “ arch rivals “ study up
On how Nichiren refuted the heretical schools of his time? I admit that I am using every opportunity here to prompt SGI:NST to study and focus on Nichiren’s authentic teachings and stop their small ego , low life insult trading !!

Yeah — another similarity between SGI/NST- negligence in study !

~ Katie

[Chas.]

Regarding my point above:

On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-8, Chas. wrote:
> Are you maintaining that the Great Buddhas that Shakyamuni predicts in the future and those that came before him, his anonymous grandfather, his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, his 15 brothers Akshobhya, Sumeru Peak, Lion Voice, Lion Appearance, Void-Dwelling, Ever Extinguished, Emperor Appearance, Brahma Appearance, Amitayus, Worldly Suffering, Tamala Leaf Sandalwood Fragrance Transcendental Power, Sumeru Appearance, Cloud Freedom, Cloud Freedom King, All Worldly Fears and finally Devadatta in the future Heavenly King Thus Come One and many others, that all those Great Buddhas are fake? That they are not also speaking about manifesting the body of "Myoho-Renge" in the Juryo chapter? Do you think he would mention them if they were preaching something other than the Juryo chapter?
>
> Or is it more likely that Nichiren Daishonin speaks in the vernacular of the time, in the language and understanding of the people he is talking to, in dealing with the conflict between those who follow Shakyamuni and those who follow Amida, Mahavairochana, Yakushi Nyorai, and the Zen void, without complicating that critical battle with these details, in other words, that Nichiren Daishonin is using expedient means and Shakyamuni is telling the truth?
>
> I think the latter is more likely, and where Nichiren Daishonin states that every single character of the Lotus Sutra is the truth, that he is speaking from the heart.
>
> -Chas.

Your response below:

On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 11:44:25 PM UTC-8, Katie Higgins wrote:
> Buddhist scholar Kitagawa Zencho , who is proficient in medieval Japanese and Classical Chinese, and can read Nichiren’s Original writings , wrote “ The Words of the Lotus Sutra “
>
> I shared quotes from “Opening the Eyes of Wooden and Psinted Images” and other Gosho from the Showa Teihon in recent posts . Here is an educated perspective on Nichiren’s attitude toward the Buddha’s own words :
>
> “Nichiren did not regard the sutras merely as the Buddha’s “ skillful mean,” that is , as glosses on the Buddha’s awakening or as guidebook to enlightenment. Rather, Nichiren revered the sutras, and the Lotus Sutra in particular, as the Buddha’s very words, or, we might say, the Buddha’s edicts. This absolute confidence in the sutras is consistent with his interpretive stance of “ relying on the Dharma and not on persons “...If we had to sum up Nichiren’s attitude toward the written words of the Sutra in succinct expression, we could call it one of “faith.”
>
> If one wants to know how Shakyamuni Buddha is distinguished from all other Buddhas, or how these other Buddhas are related to Shakyamuni , there are about a thousand passages in Nichiren’s collective writings that address these topics. No need to speculate regarding Nichiren’s teachings about the ONE Buddha to whom we owe the greatest debt of gratitude.
>

That continues to evade, while sharpening my criticism.

If Nichiren Daishonin regarded the Lotus Sutra as the ultimate truth, then how could his own meaning conflict with that truth?

It could not.

Therefore your interpretation of what Nichiren Daishonin means in those "thousands" of passages from the Gosho is in fact incorrect.

If Shakyamuni is speaking the truth when addressing the history of great Buddhas before him, concurrent to him, and after him (which he surely is,) then the fact that he is making that point so clearly and directly means that he is refuting you, Nichiren Shu, and the Theravada/Hinayana believers that the eternal Buddha is named Shakyamuni, a prince of a ruling family from thousands of years ago, the Shakyas.

He is thoroughly refuting your belief in his personal role as supreme deity.

What Nichiren Daishonin states makes more sense, that there are many great Buddhas, who preach the same Lotus Sutra many times, perhaps each of us getting our turn at some point. That the "actual name of the entity" for each of us is "Myoho-Renge", which is why each of us can attain enlightenment by reciting the one phrase preached by ALL THE GREAT BUDDHAS.

Numberless major world system dust particle kalpas is a longer time than the mind can grasp, and there is more than enough time there for a finite number of living beings to each become a great Buddha.

-Chas.

[Noel]

Once one has become a great Buddha doesnt mean that they'll remain in that state for all eternity either, as there would have to be many slips and falls along journey that has no beginning or end

Devadatta was a great sage etc

This is why the entity of the mystic law is so vital and open to all except those that have heard of Nichiren's 10 world Gohonzons and slander them because of attachments to partial truths thinking that their provisional Gohonzons are equal to a 10 world Gohonzon

[Katie Higgins]

Your views are bogus Noel - self serving , no doubt . Your impenetrable ignorance is no less fierce than Chas’—

Neither of you have the motivation to study . What you provide here is s template that explains the confusion and chaos in SGI/NST -/ boils down to arrogance and negligence in study. -

Thanks for sharing... 😬

~ Katie