A very sad piece of news from Chicago NS.
Cashjlac
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Boy, 4, feared drowned:
By John Celentani and Veronica Gonzalez Daily Herald
Staff Writers
Posted May 11, 2003
A 4-year-old boy was missing and presumed dead
Saturday after he fell into a creek behind the West
Chicago Buddhist temple that also serves as his
family's home, authorities said.
The boy, who was not identified, was playing with
another 4-year-old boy at an embankment of Kress Creek
when he fell in.
The boy lives with his parents at the Myogyoji Temple
at 1S100 Route 59 in West Chicago, officials said. The
friend ran to the temple to tell adults, who called
911 at 1:08 p.m., said Carol Roegner, a spokeswoman
for the DuPage County sheriff's department.
"We're assuming he fell in," Roegner said.
Dive teams from 12 departments searched for the
black-haired boy in the murky creek that feeds into
the DuPage River. It runs behind the cream-colored
temple with the slanted red roof.
Poor visibility in the water and a strong current from
recent heavy rains complicated the search, divers
said.
The boy was wearing a white, long-sleeve shirt with
blue stripes and black pants. He is 3 feet tall and
weighs 55 pounds, officials said.
The search was called off at about 7:15 p.m. because
of darkness but was expected to resume this morning.
Divers searched an area from Route 59 and Kress Creek
to Mack Road, on the north end of Warrenville.
"The high water because of previous rains, the speed
of the current -- there's zero visibility in the water
-- that hampered the divers," said West Chicago Fire
Department Deputy Chief Hugh Stott.
Officials also blocked Route 59 at 1:45 p.m. from
Wilson Street to Joliet Street
The creek stretches for about three-eighths of a mile
before reaching the DuPage River. Its depth varies to
as much as 5 feet, Stott said.
A police dog with the sheriff's department and an
Illinois State Police airplane aided in the search.
A red scooter the boy was apparently playing with was
recovered on the embankment, said Sgt. Dan McCarthy of
the DuPage County Sheriff's Department..
Winfield Fire Department Lt. Steve Evans was one of
the members of the dive team looking for the boy.
He was tied to two people onshore while he searched
the river with his feet, arms and legs.
"There could be something anywhere, so you have to use
all your senses to try and find anything if you can,"
he said.
About a dozen people gathered with the boy's family
for a prayer service late Saturday night.
The temple is home to several members of a small
Buddhist sect called Nichiren Shoshu. A man who
answered the phone at the temple said he couldn't
comment on the search.
"This is an incredibly tragic time," he said. "We're
not in a position to say anything right now."
Xxxoooxxxooo123
From: cash...@aol.com (Cashjlac)
Date: 1213May2003 1:51 PM
Message-id: <20030512175144...@mb-m03.aol.com>
It has been brought to my attention that some here might use this tragic event
to attempt to show there is something wrong with NS. I hope no one here does
this. Perhaps I shouldn't have posted it but I thought we could all send
daimoku and our prayers to this little boy and his family, who are
understandably grief stricken as any loving parents would be. It is indeed a
sad day for them.
Terry Berger
be with them.
Sincerely
Terry
"Xxxoooxxxooo123" <xxxooox...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030512190405...@mb-m05.aol.com...
Jim Cub 3D
>It has been brought to my attention that some here might use this tragic
>event
>to attempt to show there is something wrong with NS. I hope no one here does
>this. Perhaps I shouldn't have posted it but I thought we could all send
>daimoku and our prayers to this little boy and his family, who are
>understandably grief stricken as any loving parents would be. It is indeed a
>sad day for them.
>
>My heart goes out to this child's parents and family.
Don't feel bad about posting it. It was in the Chicago Sun Times online, so
there's no keeping it secret:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-dupage12.html
The boy's name is Yasu Murata. I and others are sending daimoku to him.
Jim
Cashjlac
From: jimc...@aol.com (Jim Cub 3D)
Date: 1213May2003 5:03 PM
Message-id: <20030512210357...@mb-m13.aol.com>
>
>It has been brought to my attention that some here might use this tragic
>event
>to attempt to show there is something wrong with NS. I hope no one here does
>this. Perhaps I shouldn't have posted it but I thought we could all send
>daimoku and our prayers to this little boy and his family, who are
>understandably grief stricken as any loving parents would be. It is indeed a
>sad day for them.
>
>My heart goes out to this child's parents and family.
Don't feel bad about posting it. It was in the Chicago Sun Times online, so
there's no keeping it secret:
Yes, well Jim I made mention of it at another group and one particular Hokkeko
member came back and accused me of being happy about it as if I couldn't wait
to "share the news". A revolting attitude IMO. Despite the issues between the
two sects I find no joy in this little boy's death and feel grief for him and
his family. If I lived in the area, I would attend his funeral and bring fruit
as requested. Please, let's all chant for them.
Bridgett
Derek N.P.F. Juhl
> I feel grief for him and his family. If I lived in the area, I would attend
> his funeral and bring fruit as requested. Please, let's all chant for them.
It is overwhelmingly sad. I offer Daimoku for Yasu and his family.
Derek Juhl
John J. Petry
"Cashjlac" <cash...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030512175144...@mb-m03.aol.com...
> My heart goes out to this child's parents and family.
>
OrangBlossms
It has been brought to my attention that some here might use this tragic event
to attempt to show there is something wrong with NS. I hope no one here does
this. Perhaps I shouldn't have posted it but I thought we could all send
daimoku and our prayers to this little boy and his family, who are
understandably grief stricken as any loving parents would be. It is indeed a
sad day for them.
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No one did that before. It was mentioned, after I was told SGI had caused the
death of a man traveling on the plane 911 and that Nikken told her that.
Previously any complaint about people sick or dying in NST was one because of
the treatment ex SGI members received visiting NST, listening to ridicule about
SGI all the time and the basic compassion level there being low towards ex SGI
members. So QUIT rehashing it.
The problems are real, if you want to kick someone for mentioning what is a
real problem, go pick on someone else. Your really getting old.
Everytime SGI tries to help NST it kicks people for agreeing with them.
I am not kissing anyone's feet here. I never have, and thats my benefit.
I dont hang around with holier than thou types.
D
D
OrangBlossms
member came back and accused me of being happy about it as if I couldn't wait
to "share the news". A revolting attitude IMO. Despite the issues between the
two sects I find no joy in this little boy's death and feel grief for him and
his family. If I lived in the area, I would attend his funeral and bring fruit
as requested. Please, let's all chant for them.
Bridgett
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Despite the very nasty post addressed to me before, I too do not EVER like
noticing people's deaths or misfortune.
And it would be nice if SGI people would not sit there and complain about NST
and then say I am doing it, thats hippicritical but I already know about that.
So, next time you have a problem with someone, dont turn it on me, and make
sure you realize who's problem it really is.
D
OrangBlossms
I am owed an apology due to what has occurred leading up to that post, but I
am SURE I will never get one.
D
Brian
Please everyone, don't respond to the postings of this person.
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At times like these we all reflect on the profound nature of life and
how precious it is.
No words can express such a loss.
Brian
Reginald Carpenter
sent via email to notify NST/ NSH members in the USA & Europe regarding
the missing 4 year old boy, Yasu Murata, at Myogyoji temple on 5/10/03,
11:55pm CDT.
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Saved e-mail message
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
Date: Sat, May 10, 2003, 11:55pm
To: [deleted addresses]
Subject: News Flash!
News Flash!
Approx. 9:40pm, I was informed by a NST/ NSH member who called me that,
the 4 year old son of Chief Priest - Y. Murata, NST - Myogyo-ji temple
was reported to have fallen into the DuPage river that runs next to the
temple's property.
A search for him was made by the DuPage County Sheriff's dept and the
Warrenville police dept, and/ or the West Chicago police dept from 1:00
to 8:00pm. I verified this info by calling the Warrenville PD myself
tonight at 9:00pm.
The search-ing has been called off until the morning due to darkness and
a tornado watch/ warning in the DuPage County area until 11:30pm.
The story about the search for this missing child has been reported in
the radio & tv news media since this afternoon.
No further info known at this time.
<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
======================================
<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
atheramari
Please everyone, don't respond to the postings of this person.
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Brian you are slandering now. Enjoy the effects.
D
atheramari
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Separate and not pertaining to this...
As for Brian Rahillys post. Read your gosho a few hundred times and your and
my posts.
I did not purposely set out to harm anyone here. And if you wish to know, you
have TRULEY harmed my shakubuku, my family and I am owed an apology due to the
self-absorbed nature of my priesthood, Mr. Rahilly.
Everytime your religion thinks its FINE to spew out garbage and everyone else
is screwed up, it spews out HURT and blames its members.
STOP DOING IT and you wont hear about it.
As for a child being harmed, no one ever wants ANYONE here to be harmed,
ESPECIALLY me, so BRIAN, SINGLEING me out is VERY BAD SLANDER and you will be
singled out.
My condolences to you too for your misunderstanding and harm to me.
D
atheramari
This is tragic. Im sorry for your loss Mr. Murata.
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Separate and not pertaining to this...
As for Brian Rahillys post. Read your gosho a few hundred times and your and
my posts, dont just use your WIN approach, see what I meant, not what you want
to see.
I did not purposely set out to harm anyone here. And if you wish to know, you
have TRULEY harmed my shakubuku, my family, and I am owed an apology due to the
self-absorbed nature of my EX priesthood, Mr. Rahilly.
I support UNITY and not separation and the disrespect of SGI. I have my
problems with them too, but I dont HOLD ANY GRUDGES on anyone here, including
NST UNLESS they slander others Buddha nature which IS occuring here.
Everytime your religion thinks its FINE to spew out misdirection and blame
everyone else for being screwed up, it spews out ACTUAL REAL LIFE HURT and
blames its members for anything that happens.
STOP DOING IT and you wont hear about what has occurred.
As for a child being harmed, no one ever wants ANYONE here to be harmed,
ESPECIALLY me, so BRIAN, SINGLEING me out is VERY BAD SLANDER and you will be
singled out and apologize TO ME at some point. I too practice Buddhism.
My condolences to you too for your misunderstanding and harm to me as well, Mr.
Rahilly. You might realize your religion harms sincere SGI members, Mr. Ikeda,
Mr Toda, and their family members, that came after them in NSA.
D
SoarinGblueskI
Date: 1313May2003 1:41 AM
Message-id: <20030513054132...@mb-m01.aol.com>
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D
D
Denise,
You must stop this. This post was to inform others of this terrible tragedy
that this family has suffered. It is not the place to discuss or bring up
anything done to you or anyone else. I have asked you before to stop
mentioning the names of those in NS that have died or had really tragic,
unfortunate things happen. This child has died. As a parent, you know how
difficult this would be to endure. Please, just send daimoku to the little
boy and his parents/family. At times like this, it doesn't matter one bit what
religion/sect someone is in, it matters only that their child died and they are
suffering greatly. Please, I'm asking you as a friend and fellow
buddhist/mother.
Bridget
>>
deejay
Thank you and Terry for being dignified - I hope that nobody from either side
ever tries to make capital out of anyone's personal tragedies
deejay
you've all done yourselves proud
On 12 May 2003 21:51:44 GMT, cash...@aol.com (Cashjlac) wrote:
: My heart goes out to this child's parents and family.
:
:
:
:
Reginald Carpenter
sent to notify NST/ NSH members in the USA & Europe re. the missing
child at NST-Myogyoji temple on 5/11/03.
Saved e-mail message
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
To: [deleted]
Subject: NewsFlash! - Update
NewsFlash! - Update
At approx. 2:30pm CDT, it was reported on the WBBM "News Radio 78" am
radio station in Chicago that the body of the missing 4yr old boy (the
chief priest's son) was found in the water approx 1/2 mile downstream
from where he had apparently fallen into the creek at the temple which
flows into the DuPage river.
No further info at this time.
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At this time, I want to express my sincere condolences to Mr & Mrs Y.
Murata & their family for the tragic loss of their son. WorldPeace!
} : < { 0
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Reginald Carpenter
away on 5/10/03, at NST - Myogyoji temple in Warrenville IL on May 12th
- 14th, 2003.
The wake & funeral services were conducted by Rev. T. Takano, Chief
Priest of NST - Myohoji temple, Los Angeles CA.
The wake was conducted on both Monday & Tuesday, May 12th & 13th, 2003
at 7:00pm.
The funeral service was conducted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 11:00am.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
Reginald Carpenter
Reginald Carpenter
Wake & Funeral services were held for Yasu Murata (4yrs old) who passed
away on 5/10/03, at NST - Myogyoji temple in Warrenville IL on May
The wake & funeral services were conducted by Rev. T. Takano, Chief
Priest of NST - Myohoji temple, Los Angeles CA.
The wake was conducted on both Monday & Tuesday, May 12th & 13th, 2003
at 7:00pm.
The funeral service was conducted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 11:00am.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
Reposted on 5/28/03
atheramari
D
Dana Ritterbrown
Reverend Nagasaka's grandson.
Reginald Carpenter
(my) original posting made re. the subject on this thread.
FYI - 1) according to a letter sent to NST/ NSH members by the Chief
Priest of NST-Myogyoji temple, dated 6/01/03, the correct name of the
deceased was Yasuharu Murata.
2) He also stated that: "It seems so fitting that Rev. Taishin Takano, a
former Chief Priest of Myogyoji Temple and currently the President of
NST and Chief Priest of Myohoji Temple in Los Angeles, should make the
following statement after officiating at the 2nd Ceremony for Yasuharu
on the evening of May 13th: "We should understand that this tragedy is
'Sansho Shima', a manifestation of the Three Obstacles and Four Devils.
We need to overcome this difficulty and not be discouraged. 'The best
gift we can give the child is a successful 750th Anniversary
celebration'."
3) He lastly stated that: "I also hope that you will do your best to
encourage many members and guests to attend our celebration of the 750th
Anniversary of Nichiren Shoshu on June 28th, and that many Hokkeko
members will now come to Myogyoji Temple for Evening Gongyo and Shodai,
so we can chant together in front of this Temple's Gohonzon to overcome
this powerful 'Sansho Shima' and to ensure a successful anniversary
celebration in less than four weeks. Let's all do our very best! Thank
you." [entire last para. of letter]
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Wake & Funeral services were held for Yasu Murata (4yrs old) who passed
away on 5/10/03, at NST - Myogyoji temple in Warrenville IL on May
12-14th, 2003.
The wake & funeral services were conducted by Rev. T. Takano, Chief
Priest of NST - Myohoji temple, Los Angeles CA.
The wake was conducted on both Monday & Tuesday, May 12th & 13th, 2003
at 7:00pm.
The funeral service was conducted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 11:00am.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Reginald Carpenter
Re: 1st "NewsFlash!" message sent re. missing child at NST-Myogyoji
To Arbn. readers: this is a copy of the 1st "NewsFlash!" message that I
sent via email to notify NST/ NSH members in the USA & Europe regarding
the missing 4 year old boy, Yasu Murata, at Myogyoji temple on 5/10/03,
11:55pm CDT.
Saved e-mail message
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
To: [deleted addresses]
Subject: News Flash!
News Flash!
the 4 year old son of Chief Priest - Y. Murata, NST - Myogyo-ji temple
was reported to have fallen into the DuPage river that runs next to the
temple's property.
A search for him was made by the DuPage County Sheriff's dept and the
Warrenville police dept, and/ or the West Chicago police dept from 1:00
to 8:00pm. I verified this info by calling the Warrenville PD myself
tonight at 9:00pm.
The search-ing has been called off until the morning due to darkness and
a tornado watch/ warning in the DuPage County area until 11:30pm.
The story about the search for this missing child has been reported in
the radio & tv news media since this afternoon.
No further info known at this time.
Reposted on 6/07/03
Reginald Carpenter
5/11/03
To Arbn Readers: this is a copy of the 2nd "Newsflash!" message that I
sent to notify NST/ NSH members in the USA & Europe re. the missing
child at NST-Myogyoji temple on 5/11/03.
Saved e-mail message
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
To: [deleted]
Subject: NewsFlash! - Update
NewsFlash! - Update
At approx. 2:30pm CDT, it was reported on the WBBM "News Radio 78" am
radio station in Chicago that the body of the missing 4yr old boy (the
chief priest's son) was found in the water approx 1/2 mile downstream
from where he had apparently fallen into the creek at the temple which
flows into the DuPage river.
No further info at this time.
---------------------------------------------------------------
At this time, I want to express my sincere condolences to Mr & Mrs Y.
Murata & their family for the tragic loss of their son. WorldPeace!
} : < { 0
Reginald Carpenter
To Arbn. readers: this is the original Daily Herald news story re. the
tragedy at NST - Myogyoji temple, 5/11/03.
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The creek stretches for about three-eighths of a mile before reaching
the DuPage River. Its depth varies to as much as 5 feet, Stott said.
A police dog with the sheriff's department and an Illinois State
Police airplane aided in the search.
A red scooter the boy was apparently playing with was recovered on
Department.
Winfield Fire Department Lt. Steve Evans was one of the members of
the dive team looking for the boy.
He was tied to two people onshore while he searched the river with
his feet, arms and legs.
"There could be something anywhere, so you have to use all your
senses to try and find anything if you can," he said.
About a dozen people gathered with the boy's family for a prayer service
late Saturday night.
The temple is home to several members of a small Buddhist sect called
Nichiren Shoshu. A man who answered the phone at the temple said he
couldn't comment on the search.
"This is an incredibly tragic time," he said. "We're not in a
position to say anything right now."
Bluediamondforme
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
Date: 0713Jun2003 7:59 AM
Message-id: <19649-3E...@storefull-2176.public.lawson.webtv.net>
Re: NewsFlash! - missing 4yr old child at NST-Myogyoji, 5/10/03
Reginald,
You say you are a Hokkeko member? For the life of me I cannot understand why
you keep posting this story over and over again. Why? What are you hoping to
gain? Know what I think? I think you are a disgruntled, taiten NS member who
wants to try to discredit the temple and NS. The way you are doing it is
clever, I'll give you that. Pretend you are a loyal follower and then f""k em
over behind their backs. I think you are cruel as well though Regginald. To
use this tragedy to do your dirty work is preety f**ked up.
Bridgett
Reginald Carpenter
1:05am CDT+5.
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Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Date: Sun, Jun 8, 2003, 1:05am (CDT+5)
From: bluediam...@aol.com (Bluediamondforme)
<< Subject: Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May
12-14th, 2003 From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter) Date:
0713Jun2003 7:59 AM Message-id:
<19649-3E...@storefull-2176.public.lawson.webtv.net>
Re: NewsFlash! - missing 4yr old child at NST-Myogyoji, 5/10/03
Reginald,
>>> You say you are a Hokkeko member? For the life of me I cannot
understand why you keep posting this story over and over again. Why?
1). RC replies: Answer - NO, Stoney (me) really does NOT know or ever
want to "know what [you] think", you alias "Bridgett Cashjlackey"/
Bridget(t)/ CYBIL FOOL! - sez "Mr. T." ROTFL.
Because, "frankly, my dear, I don't give a d-a-m-n" what you think,
FOOL! - "Rhett Butler" in "Gone With the Wind" movie. LOL.
I've already told your crazy-ass before that, "It Ain't None of Yo'
Bizness!" - TLC, and you're really No-thing [Zen] but an anonymous &
COWARDly, arrogant & ignorant, very low life conditioned,
multi-personalitied DUMB-ASS who's just desperately trying to get
herself some male(s) attention here on Arbn: "Where the Fun Never
Stops!" - Bridget(t)/ CYBIL! LOL.
Since you really do NOT know & understand what in the H-e-l-l you're
trying to talk about re. Buddhism in general or so called Nichiren
Buddhism in particular, then that's why you just "cannot understand" or
spell anything Right "for the life of [yourself]" anyway - "NO Way,
Jose!"; because, you just can't & won't "Get A Life" for your very
sorry-ass, STUPID self, Bridget(t)/ CYBIL! LOL.
And, you've already proven that & how INcapable & INcompetent you really
are just recently on the Arbn thread re. Minnie Riperton's death & her
famous "Lovin' You" song by getting almost everything that you first
wrote about it Wrong, FOOL!
"Listen Up," FOOL! - Quincy Jones.
This is NOT a d-a-m-ned "chat room", and Stoney (me) does NOT
communicate with or explain anything to anybody who's a DUMB-ASS, low
life conditioned, new-aged SGI/ NSS (mess!) politico-religio
organization member like you, Bridget(t)/ CYBIL!
So, in the future, just "go ask your senior leader" and/ or a
psychiatrist to answer those DUMB-ASS questions that you keep asking
Stoney (me) & posting "over and over again", Bridget(t)/ CYBIL!
ROTFL.
BJW - Buddhist Jihad War. } : < { 0
--------------------------------------------------------------- I think
you are a disgruntled, taiten NS member who wants to try to discredit
the temple and NS. The way you are doing it is clever, I'll give you
behind their backs. I think you are cruel as well though Regginald
up.
Bridgett
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atheramari
behind their backs. =A0 I think you are cruel as well though Regginald
[sic]. To use this tragedy to do your dirty work is preety [sic] f**ked
up.
Bridgett
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<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
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Stoney, 14 slanders, read it.
D
Reginald Carpenter
Reposted on 6/16/03
Reginald Carpenter
====================================== Reposted on 6/16/03
Cashjlac
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
Date: 1613Jun2003 9:36 AM
Message-id: <10622-3E...@storefull-2175.public.lawson.webtv.net>
Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
--------------------------------------------------------------- Re:
Daily Herald news story re. tragedy at NST-Myogyoji, 5/11/03
To Arbn. readers: this is the original Daily Herald news story re. the
tragedy at NST - Myogyoji temple, 5/11/03.
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=A0=A0Boy, 4, feared drowned:
By John Celentani and Veronica Gonzalez Daily Herald Staff Writers
=A0=A0Posted May 11, 2003
=A0=A0A 4-year-old boy was missing and presumed dead Saturday after he
fell into a creek behind the West Chicago Buddhist temple that also
serves as his family's home, authorities said.
=A0=A0The boy, who was not identified, was playing with another
4-year-old boy at an embankment of Kress Creek when he fell in.
=A0=A0The boy lives with his parents at the Myogyoji Temple at 1S100
Route 59 in West Chicago, officials said. The friend ran to the temple
to tell adults, who called 911 at 1:08 p.m., said Carol Roegner, a
spokeswoman for the DuPage County sheriff's department.
"We're assuming he fell in," Roegner said.
=A0=A0Dive teams from 12 departments searched for the black-haired boy
in the murky creek that feeds into=A0the DuPage River. It runs behind
the cream-colored temple with the slanted red roof. =A0=A0Poor
visibility in the water and a strong current from recent heavy rains
complicated the search, divers said.
=A0=A0The boy was wearing a white, long-sleeve shirt with blue stripes
and black pants. He is 3 feet tall and weighs 55 pounds, officials said.
=A0=A0The search was called off at about 7:15 p.m. because of darkness
but was expected to resume this morning.
=A0=A0Divers searched an area from Route 59 and Kress Creek to Mack
Road, on the north end of Warrenville.
=A0=A0"The high water because of previous rains, the speed of the
current -- there's zero visibility in the water -- that hampered the
divers," said West Chicago Fire Department Deputy Chief Hugh Stott.
=A0=A0Officials also blocked Route 59 at 1:45 p.m. from Wilson Street to
Joliet Street.
The creek stretches for about three-eighths of a mile before reaching
the DuPage River. Its depth varies to as much as 5 feet, Stott said.
=A0=A0A police dog with the sheriff's department and an Illinois State
Police airplane aided in the search.
=A0=A0A red scooter the boy was apparently playing with was recovered on
the embankment, said Sgt. Dan McCarthy of the DuPage County Sheriff's
Department.
=A0=A0Winfield Fire Department Lt. Steve Evans was one of the members of
the dive team looking for the boy.
=A0=A0He was tied to two people onshore while he searched the river with
his feet, arms and legs.
=A0=A0"There could be something anywhere, so you have to use all your
senses to try and find anything if you can," he said.
About a dozen people gathered with the boy's family for a prayer service
late Saturday night.
The temple is home to several members of a small Buddhist sect called
Nichiren Shoshu. A man who answered the phone at the temple said he
couldn't comment on the search.
=A0=A0"This is an incredibly tragic time," he said. "We're not in a
position to say anything right now."
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Reposted on 6/16/03
<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
You are angry about this aren't you Regginald? For some reason you are totaly
pissed at the temple and for some reason that you have not shared you blame
them for this child's death. I have heard from others that there was a mtg
going on when this little boy and his friend were playing on the creekbed
unsupervised. If he had been supervised or better yet, not allowed to play
near this water he would not have drowned. Is that how you feel? Remember, it
was this child's karma to have this accident. Hopefully, there is more
supervision amongst the parents now at the temple.
Bridgett
>>
atheramari
You are angry about this aren't you Regginald? For some reason you are totaly
pissed at the temple and for some reason that you have not shared you blame
them for this child's death. I have heard from others that there was a mtg
going on when this little boy and his friend were playing on the creekbed
unsupervised. If he had been supervised or better yet, not allowed to play
near this water he would not have drowned. Is that how you feel? Remember, it
was this child's karma to have this accident. Hopefully, there is more
supervision amongst the parents now at the temple.
Bridgett
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Bridgett, think about this. Why would Reggie publish this article again and
again knowing you think its harmful?
Who has nothing to lose?
D
Cashjlac
Date: 1613Jun2003 11:43 AM
Message-id: <20030616154348...@mb-m15.aol.com>
Bridgett
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D
Denise,
I really think Regginald is pissed at the temple and blames them for this
child's death. Perhaps there have been problems before and no one paid any
attention. I have never been to that temple although I have been to
Chicago(great city, btw) but I remember at the old Myohoji there was a pond
just outside the temple in the back that was only surrounded by a wooden fence.
The way kids ran around back then I'm surprised no kid ever fell in. I do
think though there is a better way to deal with the issue than repeating it
over and over here. I would suggest a letter to the temple to figure out a way
to fence off the creek area. They could even have what we used to call "baby
toban" during the mtgs at the temple. Or, the parents could simply watch their
children. It's really just a matter of using good, common sense.
Bridgett(my real name)
>>
atheramari
think though there is a better way to deal with the issue than repeating it
over and over here. I would suggest a letter to the temple to figure out a way
to fence off the creek area. They could even have what we used to call "baby
toban" during the mtgs at the temple. Or, the parents could simply watch their
children. It's really just a matter of using good, common sense.
Bridgett(my real name)
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Now, this is helpful but posting the incident over and over, which continuously
hurts the grieving parents, is NOT Nichiren Daishonin's compassion, think if it
were you, and you did mention that before.
These are parents and this is so very sad.
D
Reginald Carpenter
sent via email to notify NST/ NSH members in the USA & Europe regarding
the missing 4 year old boy, Yasu Murata, at Myogyoji temple on 5/10/03,
11:55pm CDT.
Saved e-mail message
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
To: [deleted addresses]
Subject: News Flash!
News Flash!
Approx. 8:40pm, I was informed by a NST/ NSH member who called me that,
the 4 year old son of Chief Priest - Y. Murata, NST - Myogyo-ji temple
was reported to have fallen into the DuPage river that runs next to the
temple's property.
A search for him was made by the DuPage County Sheriff's dept and the
Warrenville police dept, and/ or the West Chicago police dept from 1:00
to 8:00pm. I verified this info by calling the Warrenville PD myself
tonight at 9:00pm.
The search-ing has been called off until the morning due to darkness and
a tornado watch/ warning in the DuPage County area until 11:30pm. The
story about the search for this missing child has been reported in the
radio & tv news media since this afternoon.
No further info known at this time.
====================================== Re: Wake & Funeral services held
for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Re: 2nd "NewsFlash!" message sent re. missing child at NST-Myogyoji,
5/11/03
To Arbn readers: this is a copy of the 2nd "Newsflash!" message that I
sent to notify NST/ NSH members in the USA & Europe re. the missing
child at NST-Myogyoji temple on 5/11/03.
******************************************************
Saved e-mail message
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
Date: Sun, May 11, 2003, 3:07pm
To: [deleted]
Subject: NewsFlash! - Update
NewsFlash! - Update
At approx. 2:30pm CDT, it was reported on the WBBM "News Radio 78" am
radio station in Chicago that the body of the missing 4yr old boy (the
chief priest's son) was found in the water approx 1/2 mile downstream
from where he had apparently fallen into the creek at the temple which
flows into the DuPage river.
No further info at this time.
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At this time, I want to express my sincere condolences to Mr & Mrs Y.
Murata & their family for the tragic loss of their son. WorldPeace!
} : < { 0
======================================
Reposted on 6/18/03
OrangBlossms
D
Reginald Carpenter
CDT+5.
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Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2003, 11:09am (CDT+5) From: orangb...@aol.com
(OrangBlossms)
D
RC replies: Answer - Is there "any reason" for your "OBSESSION" - asking
& counting Up something for "the 4th time", more or less, that just "It
Ain't None of Yo' Bizness", Denise/ CYBIL?! - TLC. LOL.
Listen Up, FOOL! "Buddhism is Reason"; and so, there is absolutely No
good reason for a Nichiren Daishonin Buddhism real-deal, true believer
like humble Stoney (me) to have to "chit-chat" trying to explain
anything about it to a very crazy-ass, multi-personalitied,
non-Buddhist, heathen & pagan, wicked B*tch Witch like you; but, you've
already known & been told that more than "the 4th time" before, Denise/
CYBIL! ROTFL.
However, since "I've Got My Mojo Workin' On You" - Muddy Waters, maybe
these "hints" will help you to figure out a reason, that is, IF a
heathen & pagan non-Buddhist is really capable of any such kind of
reasoning or NOT:
a) although, the May 10th tragedy was just over 5 weeks ago, Stoney (me)
waited & made the first Arbn posting about a week AFTER the subject/
title - wake & funeral services had been conducted within less than
seven (7) days.
b) in the Nichiren Shoshu, a formal Toba Memorial ceremony is/ must be
conducted every seven (7) days for forty-nine (49) days/ seven (7) weeks
immediately after a deceased person has passed away; and, there are/ can
be more afterward in the first year, and in any subsequent years, or at
yearly intervals, of course.
c) see the above a & b; and, re-read the posting(s); and then, maybe you
(all) will try to pray for the deceased accordingly.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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atheramari
over?
What are you looking to do?
It happened more than one month ago and Reverend Muratas son's funeral has
already passed. Any reason why the post?
Now, I am curious too.
D
Reginald Carpenter
x-ref. to RC (my) posting on 6/18/03, 9:44am CDT.
Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
(atheramari)
post? Now, I am curious too. <<< #1.
D
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1). RC replies: "May I ask why you" just don't ask another one of your
other crazy-ass multi-personalities to read the posting (below) and try
to explain it to you all, and why don't you all just mind your own
d-a-m-ned business, Denise/ CYBIL?! LOL. WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2003, 9:44am
From: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter)
Reginald Carpenter
To Arbn readers: this is a correction & additional information to RC
(my) original posting made re. the subject on this thread.
FYI - 1) according to a letter sent to NST/ NSH members by the Chief
Priest of NST-Myogyoji temple, dated 6/01/03, the correct name of the
deceased was Yasuharu Murata.
2) He also stated that: "It seems so fitting that Rev. Taishin Takano, a
former Chief Priest of Myogyoji Temple and currently the President of
NST and Chief Priest of Myohoji Temple in Los Angeles, should make the
following statement after officiating at the 2nd Ceremony for Yasuharu
on the evening of May 13th: "We should understand that this tragedy is
'Sansho Shima', a manifestation of the Three Obstacles and Four Devils.
We need to overcome this difficulty and not be discouraged. 'The best
gift we can give the child is a successful 750th Anniversary
celebration'."
3) He lastly stated that: "I also hope that you will do your best to
encourage many members and guests to attend our celebration of the 750th
Anniversary of Nichiren Shoshu on June 28th, and that many Hokkeko
members will now come to Myogyoji Temple for Evening Gongyo and Shodai,
so we can chant together in front of this Temple's Gohonzon to overcome
this powerful 'Sansho Shima' and to ensure a successful anniversary
celebration in less than four weeks. Let's all do our very best! Thank
you." [entire last para. of letter]
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Wake & Funeral services were held for Yasu Murata (4yrs old) who passed
away on 5/10/03, at NST - Myogyoji temple in Warrenville IL on May
12-14th, 2003.
The wake & funeral services were conducted by Rev. T. Takano, Chief
Priest of NST - Myohoji temple, Los Angeles CA.
The wake was conducted on both Monday & Tuesday, May 12th & 13th, 2003
at 7:00pm.
The funeral service was conducted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 11:00am.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
====================================== Reposted on 6/20/03
Reginald Carpenter
Herald news story re. tragedy at NST-Myogyoji, 5/11/03
To Arbn. readers: this is the original Daily Herald news story re. the
tragedy at NST - Myogyoji temple, 5/11/03.
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Boy, 4, feared drowned:
By John Celentani and Veronica Gonzalez Daily Herald Staff Writers
Posted May 11, 2003
A 4-year-old boy was missing and presumed dead Saturday after he
fell into a creek behind the West Chicago Buddhist temple that also
serves as his family's home, authorities said.
The boy, who was not identified, was playing with another
4-year-old boy at an embankment of Kress Creek when he fell in. The boy
lives with his parents at the Myogyoji Temple at 1S100 Route 59 in West
Chicago, officials said. The friend ran to the temple to tell adults,
who called 911 at 1:08 p.m., said Carol Roegner, a spokeswoman for the
DuPage County sheriff's department. "We're assuming he fell in," Roegner
said.
Dive teams from 12 departments searched for the black-haired boy in
the murky creek that feeds into the DuPage River. It runs behind the
cream-colored temple with the slanted red roof. Poor visibility in
the water and a strong current from recent heavy rains complicated the
search, divers said.
The boy was wearing a white, long-sleeve shirt with blue stripes
and black pants. He is 3 feet tall and weighs 55 pounds, officials said.
The search was called off at about 7:15 p.m. because of darkness
but was expected to resume this morning.
Divers searched an area from Route 59 and Kress Creek to Mack Road, on
the north end of Warrenville.
"The high water because of previous rains, the speed of the
current -- there's zero visibility in the water -- that hampered the
divers," said West Chicago Fire Department Deputy Chief Hugh Stott.
Officials also blocked Route 59 at 1:45 p.m. from Wilson Street to
Joliet Street.
The creek stretches for about three-eighths of a mile before reaching
the DuPage River. Its depth varies to as much as 5 feet, Stott said.
A police dog with the sheriff's department and an Illinois State
Police airplane aided in the search.
A red scooter the boy was apparently playing with was recovered on
the embankment, said Sgt. Dan McCarthy of the DuPage County Sheriff's
Department.
Winfield Fire Department Lt. Steve Evans was one of the members of
the dive team looking for the boy.
He was tied to two people onshore while he searched the river with
his feet, arms and legs.
"There could be something anywhere, so you have to use all your
senses to try and find anything if you can," he said.
About a dozen people gathered with the boy's family for a prayer
service late Saturday night.
The temple is home to several members of a small Buddhist sect called
Nichiren Shoshu. A man who answered the phone at the temple said he
couldn't comment on the search.
"This is an incredibly tragic time," he said. "We're not in a
position to say anything right now."
====================================== Reposted on 6/20/03
Reginald Carpenter
temple on June 27, 2003 at 7:00pm [tentative time].
It is being planned for this special memorial ceremony to be conducted
by the Overseas Bureau Chief of Nichiren Shoshu and attended by other
senior priests accompanying him who are visitors from Japan as well as
NST priests who are visitors from other temples located in the USA.
Note: today - June 20th, 2003 was counted the Japanese way as the 42nd
day of his death; so, June 27th, 2003 will mark the 49th day of his
death.
Myogyoji temple is located at 1S100 ILL Route 59 in Warrenville, ILL.
Phone #630-293-5235.
*If planning to attend, please call ahead to confirm the starting time
of the ceremony*
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
Reginald Carpenter
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Reposted on 6/21/03
Reginald Carpenter
A special memorial ceremony for Yasu Murata will be held at NST-Myogyoji
temple on June 27, 2003 at 7:00pm [tentative time].
It is being planned for this special memorial ceremony to be conducted
by the Overseas Bureau Chief of Nichiren Shoshu and attended by other
senior priests accompanying him who are visitors from Japan as well as
NST priests who are visitors from other temples located in the USA.
Note: yesterday - June 20th, 2003 was counted the Japanese way as the
42nd day of his death; so, June 27th, 2003 will mark the 49th day of his
death.
Myogyoji temple is located at 1S100 ILL Route 59 in Warrenville, ILL.
Phone #630-293-5235.
*If planning to attend, please call ahead to confirm the starting time
of the ceremony*
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
atheramari
Note: yesterday - June 20th, 2003 was counted the Japanese way as the
42nd day of his death; so, June 27th, 2003 will mark the 49th day of his
death.
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My condolences.
And..I will chant for Yasu. Or would that be out of line, that I would chant
for him. My beads are SGI?
D
doppelganger
I think that would be appreciated Denise. I sent a card and
received a copy of the sermon Reverend Murata gave about Yasuhara's
death and that he felt Yasu fulfilled his mission and attained
enlightenment...he explained about sancho shima and the doubt it can
cause...but to not be swayed by it
The fact that they will be putting up a fence to protect the other
children who come to the Temple is also an outcome of the tragedy of
Yasuhara's death.
Dot
SereniTbyTheSea
received a copy of the sermon Reverend Murata gave about Yasuhara's
death and that he felt Yasu fulfilled his mission and attained
enlightenment...he explained about sancho shima and the doubt it can
cause...but to not be swayed by it
The fact that they will be putting up a fence to protect the other
children who come to the Temple is also an outcome of the tragedy of
Yasuhara's death.
Dot
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I wish the parents and their son, ultimate happiness.
D
Reginald Carpenter
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Reposted on 6/28/03
atheramari
Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Good day, everyone! Re. "OrangBlossms" posting on 6/18/03, 11:09am
CDT+5.
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Re: Wake & Funeral services held for Yasu Murata, May 12-14th, 2003
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2003, 11:09am (CDT+5) From: orangb...@aol.com
(OrangBlossms)
Any reason for this post the 4th time?
D
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RC replies: Answer - Is there "any reason" for your "OBSESSION" - asking
& counting Up something for "the 4th time", more or less, that just "It
Ain't None of Yo' Bizness", Denise/ CYBIL?! - TLC. LOL.
Listen Up, FOOL! "Buddhism is Reason"; and so, there is absolutely No
good reason for a Nichiren Daishonin Buddhism real-deal, true believer
like humble Stoney (me) to have to "chit-chat" trying to explain
anything about it to a very crazy-ass, multi-personalitied,
non-Buddhist, heathen & pagan, wicked B*tch Witch like you; but, you've
already known & been told that more than "the 4th time" before, Denise/
CYBIL! =A0 ROTFL.
However, since "I've Got My Mojo Workin' On You" - Muddy Waters, maybe
these "hints" will help you to figure out a reason, that is, IF a
heathen & pagan non-Buddhist is really capable of any such kind of
reasoning or NOT:
a) although, the May 10th tragedy was just over 5 weeks ago, Stoney (me)
waited & made the first Arbn posting about a week AFTER the subject/
title - wake & funeral services had been conducted within less than
seven (7) days.
b) in the Nichiren Shoshu, a formal Toba Memorial ceremony is/ must be
conducted every seven (7) days for forty-nine (49) days/ seven (7) weeks
immediately after a deceased person has passed away; and, there are/ can
be more afterward in the first year, and in any subsequent years, or at
yearly intervals, of course.
c) see the above a & b; and, re-read the posting(s); and then, maybe you
(all) will try to pray for the deceased accordingly.
WorldPeace! =A0 } : < { 0
******************************************************
Reposted on 6/28/03
<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
@@@@
Must be that 5 & 3.
D
Reginald Carpenter
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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WorldPeace! } : < { 0
====================================== Reposted on 6/30/03
Reginald Carpenter
temple on June 27, 2003.
This special memorial ceremony was conducted by the Overseas Bureau
Chief of Nichiren Shoshu and attended by other senior priests
accompanying him who were visitors from Japan as well as NST priests who
were visitors from other temples located in the USA.
Note: June 20th, 2003 was counted the Japanese way as the 42nd day of
his death; so, June 27th, 2003 was marked as the 49th day of his death.
Myogyoji temple is located at 1S100 ILL Route 59 in Warrenville, ILL.
Phone #630-293-5235.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
******************************************************
Revised on 6/30/03
Reginald Carpenter
5/11/03
To Arbn. readers: this is the original Daily Herald news story re. the
Yasu Murata tragedy at NST-Myogyoji temple, 5/11/03.
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====================================== Re-edited on 6/30/03