Daily Gosho Passages, 11/14/09

Reginald Carpenter

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:06:07 PM11/12/09

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Daily Gosho Passages Nov. 14, 2009

"Females are the means by which family relations are extended. Males
inherit their fathers' homes. Though one rules Japan, if he has no son,
there will be no one to inherit the ruler's position. Even if one has
all the money in the world, if he is without children, who will inherit
such a fortune? The three thousand volumes of non-Buddhist canon call
one who has children a wealthy man. The five thousand volumes of
Buddhist canon call one who is childless, destitute."

Reference: "Reply to Ueno-dono" Gosho; Gosho, p. 1494
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"A daughter opens up the gate of another household, a son carries on
the house in which he was born. Though one may be the ruler of the
whole country of Japan, if he lacks a son, who will succeed him? Though
he may have riches enough to fill a major world system, if he lacks a
son, to whom can he bequeath them?

Therefore the three thousand and more works of non-Buddhist literature
call someone who has a son a rich man, and the five thousand and more
works of the Buddhist canon speak of someone with no son as a poor man.
A son and a daughter are like the sun and moon in the sky, the
directions east and west on the earth, the two wings of a bird, or the
two wheels of a carriage."

Reference: "The Treasure of a Child" Gosho; WND Vol. II, p. 884

Kosen-rufu! }:<{ 0

cmk

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:59:27 PM11/16/09

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On Nov 12, 9:06 am, chiefstoneea...@msn.com (Reginald Carpenter)
wrote:

This doesn't relate to this time period. Not all Nichiren
Daishonin's writings encompass everything in the present
time period. It's meant to teach with the time period in mind.

Females are not just people who extend the family. Men
and women should work together but should not be forced
to do so in marriage until a marriage contains MUTUAL
RESPECT. Today women can inherit homes. Grown
ups are not treated like children after twenty-one. Which
is most likely why women can inherit homes.

There are also laws against the abuse of women and
children. Physical violence is becoming more repulsive to
more people. Children now have more rights. Mothers
and fathers no longer spank their children. It's called
RESPECT, not spoiling. Things are done differently
today. LISTENING to others is what needs to be done.

If women or children work hard at things just like a male
adults they should have rights. RESPECT has become
important instead of being pushed aside. Kosen-Rufu is
about common sense and compassion, not sweeping things
under the rug and giving only SOME benefit. If people don't
use common sense or compassion they will not achieve
Kosen Rufu in effect.

Using forces or force to achieve things, even when belief
is present, without making causes to bring lasting peace
are acts of futility. You have heard President Ikeda and
the High Priest's say this many times. I am sure
by now many people also have learned this through cause
and effect if they didn't learn to listen.

Look at old Japan or Hitler's old Germany or other religious
views which negate respect for those who earned it. Look
at the anger of blaming someone and where did it lead?
To violence...Being forced to forgive, and not moving on
past anger is NOT the Buddhist way. Your daily life is to
change things the Buddhist way, not the way of force, but
the way of RESPECT.

By both President Ikeda and the Priesthood teaching values
it makes it unanimous that there needs to be more positive
causes in order to bring about more positive changes in
the world.

UNITY and getting along better, not worse with other Buddhists
IS Kosen Rufu. Despite your differences with others it takes very
hard work, and not talk to move things along in a different direction.
This is the kind of work that needs to be done in order to move on
from here. NOT TALK, and NOT separatism.

The best way to bring Kosen-Rufu is live it. What we
need are more people who live Kosen Rufu not talk it.
We need people to bring examples of positive change
into their daily lives. To stop their bad habits, and to
stop disrespect IN ALL, not some people's lives. THIS
WILL achieve change. This means to LIVE the words
of Nichiren Daishonin as adjusted to this time period.

This is NOT an easy thing to do. Cause and effect
has more to do with it than people here take responsibility
for. Even marriage has lost it's attraction in this time
period. The reason is that people need to learn more about
getting along than they previously thought. Things like child
rearing classes, marriage counseling, anger management,
and personal therapy have helped many, many people. They
serve to bridge gaps in a positive way in order to achieve
discussion and UNITY, not anger. This helps Priesthoods
and Lay Leaders not just members.

How to get along is in the heart of the GOSHO. It has nothing
to do with old school sexism, laws, politics, or gesturing,
and everything to do with learning to RESPECT, using common sense,
and using real compassion which we learn to do through practicing
IF we listen to our hearts. When we do listen, It takes diligent
WORK and not for some but FOR ALL.

Back in old Japan, women were reduced to the rights
of children. Children did what they were told or were
beaten. Today all people are much more liberated and
RESPECTED. Which brings me to say that the religious
views we learned from Japan or in the U.S. can't be ALL bad
because they did bring some positive changes. However,
because there are still very big problems, they can't be all
good either.

There are things to do to make things better, and things
to change, however we should always appreciate what
has already been done by our ancestors and those who
came before us, and move on in a positive way. Not insult
or abuse others like Nichiren Daishonin taught us to avoid.

I am sorry if I mentioned that I am sick of not getting along
and I try to force the issue. The reason is there was entirely
too much disrespect for the SGI and it's members. It's also
true there is disrespect for the High Priest and the Priesthood
as well as the Nichiren Shoshu lay organization. WE can
all use a tune up here.

We need to stop the criticism, paranoia, anger, and blaming
each other and ALL work together for Kosen Rufu. To be able
to continue the time is coming where we MUST get along
in order to survive.

We need to talk, we need to learn, we need to have
UNITY. Unity won't come with force, it will only come
with mutual respect, support, compassion and understanding.
It's not something you PUSH on someone, or you don't have to
work at. It's not something you humiliate others to achieve.
It's is something YOU MAKE HAPPEN WITH RESPECT,
compassion, and UNITY through practicing.

In the Gosho it says that UNITY must be present to
achieve anything remarkable....

There ya go!

Have a happy Thanksgiving, <}:)

cmk

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:06:48 AM11/17/09

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You weren't expected to understand this Gosho and you met all expectations.

BTW, you said you were leaving. I guess your word means absolutely nothing.

C

Reginald Carpenter

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:05:59 AM11/18/09

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Re: Daily Gosho Passages, 11/14/09
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 6:59pm
From: cmk <orchid...@gmail.com>

On Nov 12, 9:06ï¿½am, chiefstoneea...@msn.com (Reginald Carpenter)
wrote:

Daily Gosho Passages ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Nov. 14, 2009
ï¿½

"Females are the means by which family relations are extended.

ï¿½Males inherit their fathers' homes. ï¿½Though one rules

Japan, if he has no son, there will be no one to inherit the ruler's

position. ï¿½Even if one has all the money in the world, if he is
without children, who will inherit such a fortune? ï¿½The three

thousand volumes of non-Buddhist canon call one who has children a

wealthy man. ï¿½The five thousand volumes of Buddhist canon call
one who is childless, destitute." ï¿½

Reference: ï¿½"Reply to Ueno-dono" Gosho; Gosho, p. 1494 ï¿½
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ï¿½ "A daughter opens up the gate of another household, a son
carries on the house in which he was born. ï¿½Though one may be

the ruler of the whole country of Japan, if he lacks a son, who will

succeed him? ï¿½Though he may have riches enough to fill a major
world system, if he lacks a son, to whom can he bequeath them? ï¿½

ï¿½ Therefore the three thousand and more works of non-Buddhist

literature call someone who has a son a rich man, and the five thousand
and more works of the Buddhist canon speak of someone with no son as a
poor man. A son and a daughter are like the sun and moon in the sky, the
directions east and west on the earth, the two wings of a bird, or the

two wheels of a carriage." ï¿½

Reference: ï¿½"The Treasure of a Child" Gosho; WND Vol. II, p. 884
ï¿½

Kosen-rufu! ï¿½}:<{ 0
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CMK wrote:

This doesn't relate to this time period. Not all Nichiren Daishonin's
writings encompass everything in the present time period. It's meant to
teach with the time period in mind.
Females are not just people who extend the family. Men and women should
work together but should not be forced to do so in marriage until a
marriage contains MUTUAL RESPECT. Today women can inherit homes. Grown
ups are not treated like children after twenty-one. Which is most likely
why women can inherit homes.

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cmk
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RC comments: Well, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are
Wrong based on the facts, "CMK." The Nichiren Shoshu English
translation of this Gosho was just made in the late 1990s and it
probably was never explained or taught to you, and you probably have
never sought an explanation of it in order to understand it. So, old
Stoney (me) will try to explain it for you for your understanding.

First of all, I posted the WND English translation of this Gosho from
its beginning and will now post the rest of it to the ending:

"Therefore, I ask that you call this son of yours Hiwaka Gozen (1). I
will write in more detail at another time.
Nichiren

The twenty-sixth day of the eighth month in the third year of Koan
[1280]

Reply to Ueno"
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"Background: Addressed to Nanjo Tokimitsu, the steward of Ueno Village,
Suruga Province, this letter was written at Minobu in 1280. In it,
Nichiren Daishonin congratulates Tokimitsu on the birth of a son, for
whom he proposes the name Hiwaka Gozen. The Daishonin points out,
according to the custom of his time, that while a daughter leads another
household to prosper, a son becomes heir where he was born. Comparing a
son and daughter to the sun and moon, he suggests that children are
irreplaceable treasures."

"Note: (1). Probably the eldest son of Nanjo Tokimitsu. Hi, of Hiwaka,
means sun, and waka means young or a litle child; Gozen is an honorific
title."
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RC: So, taken either in part or as a whole, this particular Gosho, like
every Gosho, does in fact "relate to this time period", the present &
future time which is called Mappo/ the latter day of the Law. The main
subject of this Gosho is just about a child being born & named, the
father being congratulated, and the value of children. That is why the
WND English title of this Gosho is "The Treasure of a Child."

It is really NOT about women's issues or women/ daughters who,
"according to the custom of his time" & Japanese culture/ society were
used through making arranged marriages to join families together,
usually to the new families advantage, to lead a "household to
prosper." The Daishonin just made a brief reference to that in His
first statement of the Gosho passages quoted. However, that same old
custom of making arranged marriages between families is still being
practiced today to some degree in Japanese society and other like-minded
countries or cultures in the Asian/ Oriental world. It's even been done
in the Western world in the last century, between rich families, too;
ie. the Ford (auto) family & Firestone (tire) family. But, don't worry
. . Nobody who's in their right mind is ever gonna want to get your
crazy-ass into their family, "CMK", aka. Crystal Meth Kisser! LOL.
WorldPeace! }:<{0

Reginald Carpenter

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:05:32 AM11/18/09