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JazzIs TvRicky
Nov 6, 2017, 10:07:35 PM11/6/17
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From Erich Fromm's The Sane Society:
Fromm was not content to detach individual development and behavior from larger social forces.
He challenged widely accepted ideas about health and pathology and urged readers to consider the idea that what we take for granted as normal is, in fact, pathological.
Considering that the SGI exhorts the members, on the regular, to "Become Shinichi Yamamoto", "I will become Shinichi Yamamoto", and “Reveal your true identity as Shinichi Yamamoto”, it's pretty damn clear that, though the SGI members tend to accept this as "normal", it's obviously pathological. HOW can this organization that claims a goal of "world peace through individual happiness" ever make that happen by telling its members they have to become SOMEONE ELSE???
Further, he said, we deceive ourselves through a process of consensual validation that prevents us from seeing the socially patterned defects, which are intrinsically connected to individual pathology.
So the membership can't see just how pathological their organization and their behavior is, but boy howdy, OUTSIDERS sure can! I probably saw between 500 and 1000 "guests" (outsiders) invited to SGI activities, and they never came back! Not even for a second activity! IT'S A CULT, PEOPLE!! EVERYBODY ELSE CAN SEE IT!
Former SGI-USA national YWD leader Melanie Merians once said, in the introduction to her talk at a Soka Spirit meeting in the LA area back ca. 2002 or 2003, that in the course of her 20 years of practice, she'd helped 400 people get gohonzon!! And only TWO were still practicing O_O
There's a reason that SGI-USA can't win the hearts and minds of its membership long-term. 95% to 99% of everyone who even tries SGI quits, because it's a nutty cult. Most people are able to realize that at some point. And as soon as they realize it, they're gone.
"If a person fails to attain freedom, spontaneity, a genuine expression of self, he may be considered to have a severe defect, provided we assume that freedom and spontaneity are the objective goals to be attained by every human being. If such a goal is not attained by a majority of members of any given society, we deal with the phenomenon of socially patterned defect. The individual shares it with many others; he is not aware of it as a defect, and his security is not threatened by the experience of being different, of being an outcast, as it were. What he may have lost in richness and in genuine feeling of happiness, is made up by the security of fitting in with the rest of mankind -- as he knows them. As a matter of fact, his very defect may have been raised to a virtue by his culture, and thus may give him an enhanced feeling of achievement."
Yes, the person who adopts this defective, dysfunctional cult-mask persona may even be promoted to leadership and thus rewarded for this conformity and for internalizing SGI's priorities within his/her life! YAY!
Fromm was not content to detach individual development and behavior from larger social forces.
He challenged widely accepted ideas about health and pathology and urged readers to consider the idea that what we take for granted as normal is, in fact, pathological.
Considering that the SGI exhorts the members, on the regular, to "Become Shinichi Yamamoto", "I will become Shinichi Yamamoto", and “Reveal your true identity as Shinichi Yamamoto”, it's pretty damn clear that, though the SGI members tend to accept this as "normal", it's obviously pathological. HOW can this organization that claims a goal of "world peace through individual happiness" ever make that happen by telling its members they have to become SOMEONE ELSE???
Further, he said, we deceive ourselves through a process of consensual validation that prevents us from seeing the socially patterned defects, which are intrinsically connected to individual pathology.
So the membership can't see just how pathological their organization and their behavior is, but boy howdy, OUTSIDERS sure can! I probably saw between 500 and 1000 "guests" (outsiders) invited to SGI activities, and they never came back! Not even for a second activity! IT'S A CULT, PEOPLE!! EVERYBODY ELSE CAN SEE IT!
Former SGI-USA national YWD leader Melanie Merians once said, in the introduction to her talk at a Soka Spirit meeting in the LA area back ca. 2002 or 2003, that in the course of her 20 years of practice, she'd helped 400 people get gohonzon!! And only TWO were still practicing O_O
There's a reason that SGI-USA can't win the hearts and minds of its membership long-term. 95% to 99% of everyone who even tries SGI quits, because it's a nutty cult. Most people are able to realize that at some point. And as soon as they realize it, they're gone.
"If a person fails to attain freedom, spontaneity, a genuine expression of self, he may be considered to have a severe defect, provided we assume that freedom and spontaneity are the objective goals to be attained by every human being. If such a goal is not attained by a majority of members of any given society, we deal with the phenomenon of socially patterned defect. The individual shares it with many others; he is not aware of it as a defect, and his security is not threatened by the experience of being different, of being an outcast, as it were. What he may have lost in richness and in genuine feeling of happiness, is made up by the security of fitting in with the rest of mankind -- as he knows them. As a matter of fact, his very defect may have been raised to a virtue by his culture, and thus may give him an enhanced feeling of achievement."
Yes, the person who adopts this defective, dysfunctional cult-mask persona may even be promoted to leadership and thus rewarded for this conformity and for internalizing SGI's priorities within his/her life! YAY!
JazzIs TvRicky
Nov 6, 2017, 10:10:43 PM11/6/17
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Today we come across a person who acts and feels like an automaton; who never experiences himself entirely as the person he thinks he is supposed to be; whose artificial smile has replaced genuine laughter; whose meaningless chatter has replaced communicative speech; whose dulled despair has taken the place of genuine pain.
That's your long-term SGI member in a nutshell.
Two statements can be made about this person. One is that he suffers from a defect of spontaneity and individuality which may seem incurable. At the same time, it may be said that he does not differ essentially from millions of others who are in the same position. For most of them, the culture provides patterns which enable them to live with a defect without becoming ill. It is as if each culture provided the remedy against the outbreak of manifest neurotic symptoms which would result from the defect produced by it."
"You aren't happy? Well, perhaps you need to chant more. Attend more SGI activities. Do more shakubuku! Make a determination to read President Ikeda's guidance EVERY DAY. Really try to capture his heart, his spirit, and apply that to your daily activities. Start contributing regularly to the kofu fund. Oh, and here's a million diamoku chart if you think your situation is serious enough to warrant beginning a million daimoku campaign! You've got to overcome your heavy karma!!"
[In therapy,] patients were encouraged to rediscover their authentic buried selves, and the analyst was encouraged to become a genuine force in the therapeutic encounter.
So the patient was to be supported and guided in examining his/her beliefs/attitudes/self-image, in order to identify what had been absorbed from family, authority figures, society, etc., and what was authentic to that person himself/herself. And in order to assist with this process, the analyst HAD to be intimately involved with the patient, attempting to understand the patient as well as the patient understood himself/herself.
The SGI model has a distant, unapproachable Ikeda who doesn't know the members exist, whom the members are supposed to focus on and attempt to understand so that they can model themselves after him. See the difference? Ikeda has no interest in the members. NONE.
That's your long-term SGI member in a nutshell.
Two statements can be made about this person. One is that he suffers from a defect of spontaneity and individuality which may seem incurable. At the same time, it may be said that he does not differ essentially from millions of others who are in the same position. For most of them, the culture provides patterns which enable them to live with a defect without becoming ill. It is as if each culture provided the remedy against the outbreak of manifest neurotic symptoms which would result from the defect produced by it."
"You aren't happy? Well, perhaps you need to chant more. Attend more SGI activities. Do more shakubuku! Make a determination to read President Ikeda's guidance EVERY DAY. Really try to capture his heart, his spirit, and apply that to your daily activities. Start contributing regularly to the kofu fund. Oh, and here's a million diamoku chart if you think your situation is serious enough to warrant beginning a million daimoku campaign! You've got to overcome your heavy karma!!"
[In therapy,] patients were encouraged to rediscover their authentic buried selves, and the analyst was encouraged to become a genuine force in the therapeutic encounter.
So the patient was to be supported and guided in examining his/her beliefs/attitudes/self-image, in order to identify what had been absorbed from family, authority figures, society, etc., and what was authentic to that person himself/herself. And in order to assist with this process, the analyst HAD to be intimately involved with the patient, attempting to understand the patient as well as the patient understood himself/herself.
The SGI model has a distant, unapproachable Ikeda who doesn't know the members exist, whom the members are supposed to focus on and attempt to understand so that they can model themselves after him. See the difference? Ikeda has no interest in the members. NONE.
JazzIs TvRicky
Nov 6, 2017, 10:40:02 PM11/6/17
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Fromm (1941/1994) argued that what is most important in understanding the authoritarian character is its attitude toward power. People who have an authoritarian character split the world into those who have power and those who are powerless. Love, admiration, and readiness for submission are aroused by any person or institution that conveys power. Power fascinates, irrespective of the values or beliefs it represents.
Notice how Ikeda chases after people more famous than he is to try and increase his own visibility, raise his own public profile. Remember when Ikeda was sucking up to dictators and criminals like Panama strongman Manuel Noriega? Here's a picture of them together. How about a color picture?
World Tribune Monday, May 7, 1984 Manuel Noriega Honors Gen. Director George Williams
While in Panama at SGI President Daisaku Ikeda's request, NSA general director George M. Williams recieved a distinct honor from the government in recognition for all he has done for the people of Panama and for the cause of peace throughout the world.
On Monday, April 30, in the capitol of Panama city, Mr Williams recieved a full military escort to the office of General Manuel Noriega, chief of the countire's defense forces, where he was given an honorary appointment to the rank of Colonel. Earlier in his stay, Mr Williams had attended the opening of the new Panamanian community center and the NSP culture festival with General Noriega at the Balboa Theater. copyright SGI World Tribune <-- That's a picture of them both.
Also, it’s funny how quotes from Ikeda like “It should be hoped that (Russian) President Putin will continue to do such a good job” (from some Living Buddhism issue a while back), and support, admiration and accolades presented to a tyrant torturing dictator like Islam Karimov (Uzbekistan) are quietly swept under the rug and ignored within this organization. Source
Notice how Ikeda chases after people more famous than he is to try and increase his own visibility, raise his own public profile. Remember when Ikeda was sucking up to dictators and criminals like Panama strongman Manuel Noriega? Here's a picture of them together. How about a color picture?
World Tribune Monday, May 7, 1984 Manuel Noriega Honors Gen. Director George Williams
While in Panama at SGI President Daisaku Ikeda's request, NSA general director George M. Williams recieved a distinct honor from the government in recognition for all he has done for the people of Panama and for the cause of peace throughout the world.
On Monday, April 30, in the capitol of Panama city, Mr Williams recieved a full military escort to the office of General Manuel Noriega, chief of the countire's defense forces, where he was given an honorary appointment to the rank of Colonel. Earlier in his stay, Mr Williams had attended the opening of the new Panamanian community center and the NSP culture festival with General Noriega at the Balboa Theater. copyright SGI World Tribune <-- That's a picture of them both.
Also, it’s funny how quotes from Ikeda like “It should be hoped that (Russian) President Putin will continue to do such a good job” (from some Living Buddhism issue a while back), and support, admiration and accolades presented to a tyrant torturing dictator like Islam Karimov (Uzbekistan) are quietly swept under the rug and ignored within this organization. Source
Katie Higgins
Nov 7, 2017, 12:38:17 AM11/7/17
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"What you resist, you become"-- seems to fit you, Ricky--
~Katie
JazzIs TvRicky
Nov 7, 2017, 10:44:30 AM11/7/17
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“When I encounterd Soka Gakkai, it seemed to me a group of people trying to achieve harmony and peace in the world. "On establishing the correct teaching for the peace of the Land"! Nothing sells like this in a world full of complex issues as terrorism, war and exploition of human rights. A group of Buddhist chanting and working for a better world; nothing is more alluring to youths, who are trying to find some value out of their fragmented lives. So was I attracted toward the philosophy of Soka Gakkai. Overnight I felt like a great missionary, who is a part of an unprecedented undertaking on this earth, which eventually will save humanity of its various dilemmas and misery. My self esteem went sky high. I didn’t care anything, like the mundane things we do to survive in this world. I was a hero. Ikeda Sensei was the greatest gift humanity have ever had. I am an eternal Bodhisattva of earth, whose sole aim is to eradicate suffering and misery from the earth. And who is doing that at this moment on earth? Only Soka Gakkai. So anything and everything that countered the idea of Soka Gakkai was evil, those might be my friends, family, literature, religion, God etc. Then started my drama of life, meeting after meeting home visits after home visits, members after members... Work after work within Soka Gakkai. As I thought I am doing the most noble work in the world, I have every right to ignore every thing as my family, career, work, friends, free time, hobbies, Passions.. So on.. My only passion was Gakkai and its growth. I was praised like anything for my dedication. Pampered by leaders and became very popular in the organization. "Do not wait for good times, take bad time as granted". At one point I was completely blank, what should I do with my life if there is no Soka Gakkai. My genuine friends and family were worried about me. But I was so much into it, that no one could be strict with me. They just let me go.. 8/9 years went by.. I had no visible growth in my life. I was failing in my jobs continously as my If you become a leader priority was Gakkai. Ikeda’s earning more than 300 doctorates without going to university made me to think, I can do great things even without proper education. If you work for Kosen rufu, Gohonzon ll grant you everything eventually. I was always low on my finances. I used to strave to save money for my activities. If you become a leader, you have to buy many books and attend many meetings, some in different cities, which consumes huge money on part of a youth. Some are always on debt. Like me of course. Meanwhile Ikeda Sensei grew more and more, 300+ doctorates became 400+. My experience and responsibilities in the organization grew more and more. But nothing changed in my life. I was always borrowing money from friends and family to fulfill my Gakkai responsibilities. After losing half of the world and having the other half as my enimy, I realized that the man i/we worship as semi God, as the greatest mentor the humanity have, has raped women, did nasty things to acquire power and wealth by using the fear and emotions of common people. Spreading a false theory in the world that best suits his motives and intentions. Want to attain a status of Buddha in contemporary world. Toda Sensei had said, Soka Gakkai is more precious than my life itself. I always supported that. At that point did not know that, Gakkai only uses it members to get money and to promote brand Ikeda to the world so that he ll ever remain a legendary figure in history. Alas.. Nazis murdered millions on day light.. Now Soka Gakkai is killing people's souls on broad day light in the name of world wide Kosen rufu. Millions and millions of people fell in that trap and still falling. It took lives of many youth, still taking.. Not killing them physically, but psychologically. Brainwashing them, so that they can work for Ikeda throughout their lives freely or rather spending their own hard earned money. It took my youth. To be honest, after so many years of being in the Gakkai, now I am in a state of shock and trauma which way I ll steer my life to. I am having suicidal thoughts. This could be the effect of a distorted religion on your life. If you are a youth or your parents are practicing, be careful! Check the facts before you dive in to this monstrous organization. I pity for you, if you are a so called fortune baby. Some underlying facts :
The center point of all Soka Gakkai philosophy and guidance or what ever is Ikeda Sensei. Where as in Buddhism it is the law that is Supreme. "Be an island to yourself" were the Buddha's last words. Not to your so called mentor. Why Ikeda is everything? Cause it is the Ikeda cult. Any doubt?
All of Soka Gakkai's experiences/testimonials are based on how many individuals that person could introduce/shakubuku/recruit to the organization. Or how much money he/she donated, after which he/she got a windfall of benefits. This is a silent message being sent to everyone ; donate and recruit people. The more people comes, the more Ikeda’s books ll be sold, more donations. *Top leaders function in a robotic and secret manner, as they are important figures. Members have very few knowledge about the whereabouts of Sensei. How much salary the top leaders get. Everyone important is a paid staff of Ikeda. Paid heftily to bring in more money. Faith has very little to do with all these. *they always use music or culture to capture the emotion of members. After a refreshing musical or cultural session, what ever told to you seems correct. *Only Ikeda can write books and sell in Gakkai or his wife and son. No one else can. Cause it's his cult.
you can't raise questions about the functioning of the organization. Members are lambs. Whatever comes from above, all have to follow that. *it appointments people to the leadership, who can spend more time and money. Faith is just a word.
leaving Soka Gakkai is more disastrous than the nuclear bomb. At that's the way it is sold to members. Never leave the Soka Gakkai. Throughout your life work for free and give us money regularly. And tell your children to do so as well.
Youth and future division are most precious as they are easy to manipulate. They are the future income. Hit the iron when it's hot.
Young girls or Ywds are used to sing and dance continuously on Gakkai songs before important events to uplift the spirit of members. Free cheer girls for Ikeda Sensei.
And there are so many things, which I ll keep on adding as I remember. This has been written only to alarm the youth, not to fall into this trap. Many common people sacrificed themselves to satisfy the monstrous egos of certain persons in history. Ikeda is one, living or already dead, no one knows. It is or any distorted religious cult is a soft nuclear bomb which kills humanity at its core.”
An experience from an anonymous Person
The center point of all Soka Gakkai philosophy and guidance or what ever is Ikeda Sensei. Where as in Buddhism it is the law that is Supreme. "Be an island to yourself" were the Buddha's last words. Not to your so called mentor. Why Ikeda is everything? Cause it is the Ikeda cult. Any doubt?
All of Soka Gakkai's experiences/testimonials are based on how many individuals that person could introduce/shakubuku/recruit to the organization. Or how much money he/she donated, after which he/she got a windfall of benefits. This is a silent message being sent to everyone ; donate and recruit people. The more people comes, the more Ikeda’s books ll be sold, more donations. *Top leaders function in a robotic and secret manner, as they are important figures. Members have very few knowledge about the whereabouts of Sensei. How much salary the top leaders get. Everyone important is a paid staff of Ikeda. Paid heftily to bring in more money. Faith has very little to do with all these. *they always use music or culture to capture the emotion of members. After a refreshing musical or cultural session, what ever told to you seems correct. *Only Ikeda can write books and sell in Gakkai or his wife and son. No one else can. Cause it's his cult.
you can't raise questions about the functioning of the organization. Members are lambs. Whatever comes from above, all have to follow that. *it appointments people to the leadership, who can spend more time and money. Faith is just a word.
leaving Soka Gakkai is more disastrous than the nuclear bomb. At that's the way it is sold to members. Never leave the Soka Gakkai. Throughout your life work for free and give us money regularly. And tell your children to do so as well.
Youth and future division are most precious as they are easy to manipulate. They are the future income. Hit the iron when it's hot.
Young girls or Ywds are used to sing and dance continuously on Gakkai songs before important events to uplift the spirit of members. Free cheer girls for Ikeda Sensei.
And there are so many things, which I ll keep on adding as I remember. This has been written only to alarm the youth, not to fall into this trap. Many common people sacrificed themselves to satisfy the monstrous egos of certain persons in history. Ikeda is one, living or already dead, no one knows. It is or any distorted religious cult is a soft nuclear bomb which kills humanity at its core.”
An experience from an anonymous Person
Chas.
Nov 7, 2017, 1:10:40 PM11/7/17
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Ricky Is The Laziest Babbling Fraud In Nichiren Buddhism, EVER! +
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:45:52 PM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
[snip]
> No where in Nichiren’s Post Sado Teachings dose he equate the Recitation of Shakyamuni’s Lotus Sutra with “Faith”!
>
> As I have said in the Debate on Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects” your affinity towards Shakyamuni’s Lotus Sutra is proof of your lack of Faith in The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!
>
> The Guilt Teachings of Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects is evident in your insistence of going against Nichiren’s Teachings and promoting the sell of Gongyo Books which your SGI-USA CULT changes often and regularly!
>
[snip]
>
> You are a deceptive and devious Slanderer if Nichiren’s Teachings Chas
>
> Sincerely Richard H Brown A Teacher 👨🏫 of The Law
As pre-Sado Island teachings go, they are illustrative of the supplemental practice Nichiren Daishonin continued to his death (recitation of part of the Hoben chapter and the Jigage verse section of the Juryo chapter), so I am getting it right and conversely it is you, Ricky who are the fraud.
Here are the Gosho passages refuting your ignorant rantings. In all of these post-Sado writings Nichiren Daishonin discusses doing gongyo as a filial act in appreciation of the Lotus Sutra and Shakyamuni Buddha who preached it (as the supplementary and not as the primary practice):
In 1275, "Reply to the Lay Priest Soya", WND I, p. 486:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/58#para-0
In 1275, "Letter to Hōren", WND I, p. 513, again on p. 516, again on p. 517, and finally on p. 518:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-74
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-95
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-104
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-105
In 1275, "New Year’s Greeting", WND II, p. 530:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/243#para-1
In 1276, "The Fourteen Slanders", WND I, p. 756:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/92#para-4
In his 1276 autobiography of the Sado history, "The Actions of the Votary of the Lotus Sutra", WND I, p. 768:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/93#para-25
In 1280, "On Filial and Unfilial Conduct", WND I p. 1033:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/146#para-0
In 1280, "White Horses and White Swans", WND I, p. 1066 second paragraph, and again on the same page, fourth paragraph:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/152#para-1
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/152#para-3
Finally, at the end of 1280 and less than two years before his death, "Reply to the Mother of Ueno", WND I, p. 1072:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/154#para-0
The fact that you have made destroying Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Gongyo your cause celebre and that second fact that Nichiren Daishonin's own writings utterly refute you over and over, exposes the third fact that YOU, RICKY, ARE UNIQUE AS THE SINGLE LAZIEST BABBLING FRAUDULENT COMMENTATOR ON THE SUBJECT OF NICHIREN DAISHONIN'S PRACTICE OF THE BUDDHISM OF THE LOTUS SUTRA, EVER!
-Chas.
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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 10:56:27 PM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> DAVE your presentations are more than welcome for instance: Nichiren The Buddhist Prophet is a most enlightening work so much valuable information and truly a work capturing Nichiren Daishonin’s Spirit of Faith!
>
> Thank you for taking the time to share and inform those of us who are not intimidated by those who have valuable contributions to the Spread of Nichiren Daishonin’s Teachings
>
> Sincerely Richard
Ricky, your attempts to deflect won't work. Your position on Gongyo is an affront to anyone who actually bothers to read the Gosho, everyone now knows this:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/4bHXAXgoy2I/kp9V18iOAgAJ
Let's see if you can respond intelligently this time.
-Chas.
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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 9:27:56 AM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> My position on Gongyo is Nichiren’s Teachings not mine your ignorance of Nichiren’s Teachings are not my fault Chas your lack of capacity in Study is grounded in prejudice and habit!
>
> Gongyo is your Gohonzon not The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo! Which you and Your Soka Cult now deny as necessary in the practice of Nichiren Daishonin’s Buddhism! How pitiful
>
Actually, as I have demonstrated in detail above:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/4bHXAXgoy2I/kp9V18iOAgAJ
Your position on Gongyo REQUIRES THAT YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE NICHIREN DAISHONIN"S TEACHINGS.
Your foolishness based solely upon your blatant and blind, willful ignorance is your trademark, Ricky.
-Chas.
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 8:18:34 PM UTC-8, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> Chas the Gohonzon Burner and Statue Worshippers Guru! Nichiren is not God Chas. Read his teachings and stop with the deification off Shayamuni’s Lotus Sutra!
Now you have REALLY gone around the bend, Ricky. (1) I would be the last person in the world to do the dishonor to ANY HUMAN BEING by deifying them: which to me really means dehumanizing them. There are of course a large number of people who stand against deification of any sort, but I say that I would be the VERY LAST ONE (2) simply because it is in my nature to ignore social pressure of any sort. And that goes all the way back to my childhood. Finally (3) I think you have to be a nice person (the opposite of a hater) to want to make a God out of someone, and I am CLEARLY NOT A NICE PERSON.
Hence your current theorem about me does not pass the initial inspection by any 12-year-old, and what does that say about you?
-Chas.
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-8, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
[snip]
> I am A Thus Come One!
>
> Sincerely Richard H Brown A Teacher 👨🏫 of The Law
While it is clear from Nichiren Daishonin that the common mortal is the true Buddha, it is also clear from your laziness and utter foolishness that you are not a "Teacher of the Law", nor are you a "Thus Come One" and you are extremely unlikely to become one in this lifetime.
I do, however, predict in a vastly distant future that you will, however, become that kind of great Buddha by virtue of your extremely poison drum relationship with the Lotus Sutra, your absolute hatred of Nichiren Daishonin and his teachings and you animus towards the Kosen Rufu movement in the SGI.
-Chas.
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:45:52 PM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
[snip]
> No where in Nichiren’s Post Sado Teachings dose he equate the Recitation of Shakyamuni’s Lotus Sutra with “Faith”!
>
> As I have said in the Debate on Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects” your affinity towards Shakyamuni’s Lotus Sutra is proof of your lack of Faith in The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!
>
> The Guilt Teachings of Gongyo as Practiced by Nichiren Buddhism Sects is evident in your insistence of going against Nichiren’s Teachings and promoting the sell of Gongyo Books which your SGI-USA CULT changes often and regularly!
>
[snip]
>
> You are a deceptive and devious Slanderer if Nichiren’s Teachings Chas
>
> Sincerely Richard H Brown A Teacher 👨🏫 of The Law
As pre-Sado Island teachings go, they are illustrative of the supplemental practice Nichiren Daishonin continued to his death (recitation of part of the Hoben chapter and the Jigage verse section of the Juryo chapter), so I am getting it right and conversely it is you, Ricky who are the fraud.
Here are the Gosho passages refuting your ignorant rantings. In all of these post-Sado writings Nichiren Daishonin discusses doing gongyo as a filial act in appreciation of the Lotus Sutra and Shakyamuni Buddha who preached it (as the supplementary and not as the primary practice):
In 1275, "Reply to the Lay Priest Soya", WND I, p. 486:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/58#para-0
In 1275, "Letter to Hōren", WND I, p. 513, again on p. 516, again on p. 517, and finally on p. 518:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-74
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-95
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-104
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/62#para-105
In 1275, "New Year’s Greeting", WND II, p. 530:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/243#para-1
In 1276, "The Fourteen Slanders", WND I, p. 756:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/92#para-4
In his 1276 autobiography of the Sado history, "The Actions of the Votary of the Lotus Sutra", WND I, p. 768:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/93#para-25
In 1280, "On Filial and Unfilial Conduct", WND I p. 1033:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/146#para-0
In 1280, "White Horses and White Swans", WND I, p. 1066 second paragraph, and again on the same page, fourth paragraph:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/152#para-1
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/152#para-3
Finally, at the end of 1280 and less than two years before his death, "Reply to the Mother of Ueno", WND I, p. 1072:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/154#para-0
The fact that you have made destroying Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Gongyo your cause celebre and that second fact that Nichiren Daishonin's own writings utterly refute you over and over, exposes the third fact that YOU, RICKY, ARE UNIQUE AS THE SINGLE LAZIEST BABBLING FRAUDULENT COMMENTATOR ON THE SUBJECT OF NICHIREN DAISHONIN'S PRACTICE OF THE BUDDHISM OF THE LOTUS SUTRA, EVER!
-Chas.
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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 10:56:27 PM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> DAVE your presentations are more than welcome for instance: Nichiren The Buddhist Prophet is a most enlightening work so much valuable information and truly a work capturing Nichiren Daishonin’s Spirit of Faith!
>
> Thank you for taking the time to share and inform those of us who are not intimidated by those who have valuable contributions to the Spread of Nichiren Daishonin’s Teachings
>
> Sincerely Richard
Ricky, your attempts to deflect won't work. Your position on Gongyo is an affront to anyone who actually bothers to read the Gosho, everyone now knows this:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/4bHXAXgoy2I/kp9V18iOAgAJ
Let's see if you can respond intelligently this time.
-Chas.
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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 9:27:56 AM UTC-7, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> My position on Gongyo is Nichiren’s Teachings not mine your ignorance of Nichiren’s Teachings are not my fault Chas your lack of capacity in Study is grounded in prejudice and habit!
>
> Gongyo is your Gohonzon not The Gohonzon of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo! Which you and Your Soka Cult now deny as necessary in the practice of Nichiren Daishonin’s Buddhism! How pitiful
>
Actually, as I have demonstrated in detail above:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/4bHXAXgoy2I/kp9V18iOAgAJ
Your position on Gongyo REQUIRES THAT YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE NICHIREN DAISHONIN"S TEACHINGS.
Your foolishness based solely upon your blatant and blind, willful ignorance is your trademark, Ricky.
-Chas.
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 8:18:34 PM UTC-8, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> Chas the Gohonzon Burner and Statue Worshippers Guru! Nichiren is not God Chas. Read his teachings and stop with the deification off Shayamuni’s Lotus Sutra!
Now you have REALLY gone around the bend, Ricky. (1) I would be the last person in the world to do the dishonor to ANY HUMAN BEING by deifying them: which to me really means dehumanizing them. There are of course a large number of people who stand against deification of any sort, but I say that I would be the VERY LAST ONE (2) simply because it is in my nature to ignore social pressure of any sort. And that goes all the way back to my childhood. Finally (3) I think you have to be a nice person (the opposite of a hater) to want to make a God out of someone, and I am CLEARLY NOT A NICE PERSON.
Hence your current theorem about me does not pass the initial inspection by any 12-year-old, and what does that say about you?
-Chas.
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-8, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
[snip]
> I am A Thus Come One!
>
> Sincerely Richard H Brown A Teacher 👨🏫 of The Law
While it is clear from Nichiren Daishonin that the common mortal is the true Buddha, it is also clear from your laziness and utter foolishness that you are not a "Teacher of the Law", nor are you a "Thus Come One" and you are extremely unlikely to become one in this lifetime.
I do, however, predict in a vastly distant future that you will, however, become that kind of great Buddha by virtue of your extremely poison drum relationship with the Lotus Sutra, your absolute hatred of Nichiren Daishonin and his teachings and you animus towards the Kosen Rufu movement in the SGI.
-Chas.
JazzIs TvRicky
Nov 7, 2017, 3:52:39 PM11/7/17
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SGI had an ardent fan in the form of member Josephine Hamada, who proposed several endorsements, as you will see below, and the School Administrator Grace Kojima, who apparently could be counted upon to NOT "just say 'No'"! I don't have any idea how much money exchanged hands to make all this happen, but I'm guessing it was substantial, for an experienced school administrator such as Kojima to throw this school's children, whose welfare was her responsibility, under the SGI cult bus.
Beyer Elementary School in San Ysidro, California, Appoints SGI President and Mrs. Ikeda as Honorary Principals
On June 6, [2001], SGI President Daisaku Ikeda and his wife, Mrs. Kaneko Ikeda, were appointed honorary principals of Beyer Elementary School in San Ysidro, California, USA, in recognition of their longstanding contributions to the advancement of education, anti-violence, and peace on an international scale, based on the value-creating pedagogy of Soka education. Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda are being lauded as ideal role models, reflecting the school's educational philosophy.
WHY? What have they ever done that anyone else would want to emulate??
On the same day, the school also dedicated a garden, grown and cared for by the students, to educator and first Soka Gakkai president Tsunesaburo Makiguchi (1871-1944)--The Makiguchi California Native Plant Garden--in commemoration of his 130th birthday. Trees were planted in honor of Mr. Makiguchi, Mr. Ikeda, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., and Cesar Chavez (1927-1993), founder of the United Farm Workers' Union. San Ysidro is located in the southern-most part of California, next to the U.S.-Mexico border.
Trying to invoke famous people to ride on their fame and seize a little for himself, Ikeda is.
Attending the ceremony were: Beyer Elementary School Principal Fred Cruz, San Ysidro School Administrator Grace Kojima, Beyer School teacher Josephine Hamada, who proposed the honorary principal appointments, other faculty and students, and SGI-USA General Director Daniel Nagashima, who represented Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda.
San Ysidro Women's Club and San Diego House of Representatives Member Commend SGI President and Mrs. Ikeda
On September 8, [2001], the San Ysidro Women's Club and San Diego Congressman Bob Filner presented certificates of appreciation to SGI President Daisaku Ikeda and Mrs. Kaneko Ikeda for their contributions to San Ysidro community
Now show us the RECEIPTS!!
as well as for their dedication to advance peace, education and culture worldwide. The presentation took place at the Beyer Elementary School in San Ysidro, California, of which Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda were named honorary principals in June of this year. Mr. Ikeda had presented a poem to the students of Beyer Elementary School, as well as books to the school library and nearby public library. The SGI also contributed cherry trees to the city and plants to the school's Makiguchi California Native Plant Garden, which pays tribute to the humanistic pedagogy of educator and first Soka Gakkai president Tsunesaburo Makiguchi.
So, when the children ask, "Who was Tsupresabooboo Makagotchi?" they can be directed to books ghostwritten for authored by IKEDA that IKEDA donated to their library!!
In June 2001, SGI President Daisaku Ikeda and Mrs. Kaneko Ikeda were named honorary principals of the school for their longstanding contributions to the advancement of education. Mr. Ikeda presented a poem to Beyer students and donated books to the school library. The SGI contributed cherry trees to San Ysidro and plants to Beyer's Makiguchi California Native Plant Garden. As a gesture of appreciation for the goodwill and friendship between Beyer and Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda, the school opened "Toda Peace Cherry Tree Grove" on the school grounds in memory of second Soka Gakkai president Josei Toda.
So they've gotten this SINGLE elementary school to "honor" ALL THREE SOKA GAKKAI PRESIDENTS!! Source
BUT WAIT! THERE'S MOAR!!
SAN YSIDRO – The Japanese and the children of Beyer Elementary School reaffirmed their unusual bond yesterday with a memorial ceremony for the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks.
And the moral of the story is this: NEVER underestimate how many friends money can buy!
In a cherry orchard in the southeast corner of the gravel-surfaced playground, the school honored a Japanese victim of the attacks, David Aoyama of Culver City. Aoyama was on the hijacked flight that crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.
Seima "David" Aoyama was shipped over here in the 1980s, along with Danny Nagashima, to prepare to move into plum salaried positions with SGI-USA - Nagashima became General Director (the top executive) and Aoyama was an accountant. The SGI-USA official who replaced Nagashima was - you guessed it - an accountant. Shame Aoyama was out of the picture - he'd have made a competent General Director. I'm confident that was the plan.
Notice they're still identifying him as "Japanese" - he had a green card, not citizenship.
The orchard has a plaque in Aoyama's memory, and his widow, daughter and son laid a wreath by it to mark the fourth anniversary of his death.
So 2005.
Emily Aoyama, the daughter, told Beyer's 600 kindergarten-through-sixth-graders that their proximity to the border gives them the opportunity to make friends from other countries.
"I promise to everyone and to my father that I will dedicate my life to bringing the people closer and ultimately bringing world peace closer to our hearts," Aoyama said.
The connection dates to the spring of 2001, when Beyer second-grade teacher Josie Hamada gained permission to make Dr. Daisaku Ikeda and his wife, Kaneko, honorary principals of the school. Source
How grotesque using Aoyama's children that way. Props, nothing more. Along with those children whose parents had entrusted them to that public school to protect and educate, not to expose to weird-ass culties.
So that's FOUR Soka Gakkai Japanese people being honored at a US elementary school - what sense does any of THAT make??
But you'll be happy to know that, in 2012, Beyer Elementary School was razed to the ground. Including the library - all the books were probably thrown out or dumped on Goodwill. All the cherry trees and native plants as well, apparently - San Ysidro parents describe the lot as "nothing but weeds" now. It was supposed to be rebuilt, but there has been so much corruption and mismanagement and outright fraud that nothing has happened.
And of COURSE that's the milieu that drew Ikeda like a moth to the flame...
Beyer Elementary School in San Ysidro, California, Appoints SGI President and Mrs. Ikeda as Honorary Principals
On June 6, [2001], SGI President Daisaku Ikeda and his wife, Mrs. Kaneko Ikeda, were appointed honorary principals of Beyer Elementary School in San Ysidro, California, USA, in recognition of their longstanding contributions to the advancement of education, anti-violence, and peace on an international scale, based on the value-creating pedagogy of Soka education. Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda are being lauded as ideal role models, reflecting the school's educational philosophy.
WHY? What have they ever done that anyone else would want to emulate??
On the same day, the school also dedicated a garden, grown and cared for by the students, to educator and first Soka Gakkai president Tsunesaburo Makiguchi (1871-1944)--The Makiguchi California Native Plant Garden--in commemoration of his 130th birthday. Trees were planted in honor of Mr. Makiguchi, Mr. Ikeda, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., and Cesar Chavez (1927-1993), founder of the United Farm Workers' Union. San Ysidro is located in the southern-most part of California, next to the U.S.-Mexico border.
Trying to invoke famous people to ride on their fame and seize a little for himself, Ikeda is.
Attending the ceremony were: Beyer Elementary School Principal Fred Cruz, San Ysidro School Administrator Grace Kojima, Beyer School teacher Josephine Hamada, who proposed the honorary principal appointments, other faculty and students, and SGI-USA General Director Daniel Nagashima, who represented Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda.
San Ysidro Women's Club and San Diego House of Representatives Member Commend SGI President and Mrs. Ikeda
On September 8, [2001], the San Ysidro Women's Club and San Diego Congressman Bob Filner presented certificates of appreciation to SGI President Daisaku Ikeda and Mrs. Kaneko Ikeda for their contributions to San Ysidro community
Now show us the RECEIPTS!!
as well as for their dedication to advance peace, education and culture worldwide. The presentation took place at the Beyer Elementary School in San Ysidro, California, of which Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda were named honorary principals in June of this year. Mr. Ikeda had presented a poem to the students of Beyer Elementary School, as well as books to the school library and nearby public library. The SGI also contributed cherry trees to the city and plants to the school's Makiguchi California Native Plant Garden, which pays tribute to the humanistic pedagogy of educator and first Soka Gakkai president Tsunesaburo Makiguchi.
So, when the children ask, "Who was Tsupresabooboo Makagotchi?" they can be directed to books ghostwritten for authored by IKEDA that IKEDA donated to their library!!
In June 2001, SGI President Daisaku Ikeda and Mrs. Kaneko Ikeda were named honorary principals of the school for their longstanding contributions to the advancement of education. Mr. Ikeda presented a poem to Beyer students and donated books to the school library. The SGI contributed cherry trees to San Ysidro and plants to Beyer's Makiguchi California Native Plant Garden. As a gesture of appreciation for the goodwill and friendship between Beyer and Mr. and Mrs. Ikeda, the school opened "Toda Peace Cherry Tree Grove" on the school grounds in memory of second Soka Gakkai president Josei Toda.
So they've gotten this SINGLE elementary school to "honor" ALL THREE SOKA GAKKAI PRESIDENTS!! Source
BUT WAIT! THERE'S MOAR!!
SAN YSIDRO – The Japanese and the children of Beyer Elementary School reaffirmed their unusual bond yesterday with a memorial ceremony for the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks.
And the moral of the story is this: NEVER underestimate how many friends money can buy!
In a cherry orchard in the southeast corner of the gravel-surfaced playground, the school honored a Japanese victim of the attacks, David Aoyama of Culver City. Aoyama was on the hijacked flight that crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.
Seima "David" Aoyama was shipped over here in the 1980s, along with Danny Nagashima, to prepare to move into plum salaried positions with SGI-USA - Nagashima became General Director (the top executive) and Aoyama was an accountant. The SGI-USA official who replaced Nagashima was - you guessed it - an accountant. Shame Aoyama was out of the picture - he'd have made a competent General Director. I'm confident that was the plan.
Notice they're still identifying him as "Japanese" - he had a green card, not citizenship.
The orchard has a plaque in Aoyama's memory, and his widow, daughter and son laid a wreath by it to mark the fourth anniversary of his death.
So 2005.
Emily Aoyama, the daughter, told Beyer's 600 kindergarten-through-sixth-graders that their proximity to the border gives them the opportunity to make friends from other countries.
"I promise to everyone and to my father that I will dedicate my life to bringing the people closer and ultimately bringing world peace closer to our hearts," Aoyama said.
The connection dates to the spring of 2001, when Beyer second-grade teacher Josie Hamada gained permission to make Dr. Daisaku Ikeda and his wife, Kaneko, honorary principals of the school. Source
How grotesque using Aoyama's children that way. Props, nothing more. Along with those children whose parents had entrusted them to that public school to protect and educate, not to expose to weird-ass culties.
So that's FOUR Soka Gakkai Japanese people being honored at a US elementary school - what sense does any of THAT make??
But you'll be happy to know that, in 2012, Beyer Elementary School was razed to the ground. Including the library - all the books were probably thrown out or dumped on Goodwill. All the cherry trees and native plants as well, apparently - San Ysidro parents describe the lot as "nothing but weeds" now. It was supposed to be rebuilt, but there has been so much corruption and mismanagement and outright fraud that nothing has happened.
And of COURSE that's the milieu that drew Ikeda like a moth to the flame...
Chas.
Nov 8, 2017, 12:41:17 AM11/8/17
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Deflecting won't work. Your position on Gongyo is an affront to anyone who actually bothers to read the Gosho, everyone now knows this:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/SDC4XPAu3Ok/auAPJSy1BQAJ
To make it perfectly clear anon, Ricky, your treason towards Nichiren Daishonin, by promoting the download of internet pirated Gohonzon printouts, using images of Gohonzon stolen by the traitorous priests who betrayed the Daishonin after his death by turning his Buddhism into a statue worshiping cult forcing Shakyamuni into the role of god almighty ... that treason of yours is not cloaked in the slightest by wrapping yourself in Gosho quotes taken from the website of the SGI you hate. Making up new Buddhism is pretending that you are Nichiren Daishonin without the scholarship he practiced from his early youth. That cannot be repeated, because a lot of what he read in those temple libraries is gone, burned during the Islamic conquest of India, Mao's destruction of the temples in China and Nobunaga and Hideyoshi's destruction of the temples, like Enryakuji, in Japan. You are not Nichiren Daishonin and no one can ever be like him again.
We'll see if you can respond intelligently this time.
-Chas.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/SDC4XPAu3Ok/auAPJSy1BQAJ
To make it perfectly clear anon, Ricky, your treason towards Nichiren Daishonin, by promoting the download of internet pirated Gohonzon printouts, using images of Gohonzon stolen by the traitorous priests who betrayed the Daishonin after his death by turning his Buddhism into a statue worshiping cult forcing Shakyamuni into the role of god almighty ... that treason of yours is not cloaked in the slightest by wrapping yourself in Gosho quotes taken from the website of the SGI you hate. Making up new Buddhism is pretending that you are Nichiren Daishonin without the scholarship he practiced from his early youth. That cannot be repeated, because a lot of what he read in those temple libraries is gone, burned during the Islamic conquest of India, Mao's destruction of the temples in China and Nobunaga and Hideyoshi's destruction of the temples, like Enryakuji, in Japan. You are not Nichiren Daishonin and no one can ever be like him again.
We'll see if you can respond intelligently this time.
-Chas.
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