Gongyo & Daimoku Morning (lyrics) & Daimoku Nam Myo Ho Renge Kyo (Evening Gongyo) & Odaimoku "Namu Myoho Renge Kyo"

[Noel]

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Cg8xh62Ps&t=69s Morning Nam Myoho Renge Kyo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA1NczKKf8w Evening Nam Myoho Renge Kyo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_NWqalcuZ8 Odaimoku Namu Myoho Renge Kyo

[Chas.]

The Seven Questions Noel Simply Cannot Face Regarding His Hatred of Nichiren Daishonin +

Responding to the following post, which may become deleted out of embarrassment:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/uW7dASM3NC4/ywEtC41pCQAJ

On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 11:39:26 PM UTC-7, Noel wrote:
> On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 2:33:54 PM UTC+10, Chas. wrote:
> > On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 6:32:36 PM UTC-7, Noel wrote:
> > > "Its not just an image in black and white, the Gohonzon has dimensions in the realm of faith that you cannot perceive optically."
> > >
> > > Then you can chant to Shakyamuni's or Nichiren's statue and percieve the Gohonzon with your kind of faith that doesn't need optical representations better still all you have to do is think it as it already exists the unseen dimension
> >
> > No, I said the GOHONZON has unseen dimensions, not my mind or some statues. I perceive them when I chant. They only exist in the GOHONZON.
> >
> > You have a real problem parsing an English sentence, Noel. Maybe some remedial reading classes? Glasses?
> >
> > -Chas.
>
> The true aspect and all phenomena have to be present to be a holistic presentation of our life,in other words they have to be side by side because the true aspect doesn't exist by itself. If you have to look into unseen dimensions of the Gohonzon to complete the 10 worlds every time you do gongyo you would have to be visualizing the 5 worlds that are not there so you could transform them.
>
> Since the oneness of true aspect and all phenomena are already present in Nichirens 10 world Gohonzons I don't have to stress about remembering the missing worlds each time I do gongyo or wishfully believe that they are there just so I can justify having a five world Gohonzon as you do
>
> We perceive whatever we like in our mind games and Buddhism is a mind game that your really bad at playing because of your narrow perception of Buddhism. The Gohonzon exists in the seen and unseen to the minutest material phenomena to that which is beyond matter as an infinite potential to the manifestation of that potential that is in my room as a copy of an original 10 world Nichiren inscribed Gohonzon that is missing in your practice and why your practice is only a partial truth that slanders the higher truth...Namu Myoho Renge Kyo

What you just said, Noel, reveals a lot that you did not intend about what you have not perceived, that any person chanting to a Gohonzon ... that was NOT stolen AND NOT received from traitors that turned away from Nichiren Daishonin the moment that he died and actually a long time before that ... will actually perceive. And that's probably why all the worlds are inscribed onto that Gohonzon for you.

Since I have your attention ...
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This was posted in ARBN, responding to a question, which I mentioned should be directed to someone knowledgable in the SGI:

... This from Soka Spirit.
...
... 3) They claim There are Missing Characters on Nichikan
... Gohonzon
...
... There are characters on the Nikken and Nittatsu transcribed
... Gohonzon that are not on the Nichikan Gohonzon. The essence
... of the Gohonzon is the inscription that embodies the power
... of the Law and the power of the Buddha, or
... “Nam-myoho-renge-kyo.” This inscription represents the
... enlightened life of Nichiren Daishonin; this is the heart
... of the Gohonzon.
...
... The surrounding names which represent the mutual possession
... of the Ten Worlds are secondary and have varied since
... Nichiren began inscribing Gohonzon. Not all of the Gohonzon
... inscribed by Nichiren are the same by any means. For
... example, of the 120 extant Nichiren inscribed Gohonzon,
... only about a third contain the name Devadatta representing
... the world of Hell; only 65 contain Shariputra and
... Maudgalayana representing people of the two vehicles, and
... so on.
...
... After the Daishonin’s death, successive high priests
... exercised their own judgment in how to represent the
... principle of the Ten Worlds.
...
... As usual with this practice, if one has enough seeking
... spirit, one finds the answers one is looking for.

There we go. When the people following Nichiren Shu parade around their stolen Gohonzon obtained there, proclaiming that they have a true ten-world Gohonzon, they are like a Matador holding up the ears of the bull that they have just killed to the roar of the crowd. The prostrate forms of the Buddhas in the ten direction that they have slain are literally everywhere.

What they will never perceive with a stolen Gohonzon, due to the slander involved in receiving it, is what was heard from the SGI: Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo Nichiren down the middle is all you need to manifest the ten worlds and all the other jewels in the treasure tower of your life, mirrored in the Gohonzon. The cause for that is chanting with faith, and in the early going, hope substitutes for that faith (because one hopes it might just work.)

It's not just an image in black and white, Gohonzon has dimensions in the realm of faith that you cannot perceive optically.

I have seven questions for those minions of darkness at Nichiren Shu waving around their stolen "authentic Nichiren ten-world Gohonzon":

1. For all those other Nichiren Gohonzon missing one or another secondary items: are all those Gohonzon faked, like the Gosho letters you call faked?

2. Do those authentic Nichiren non-ten-world Gohonzon work, or not?

3. Did Nichiren Daishonin actually give his followers Gohonzon that were non-functional, or did he chant to them and see that they worked?

4. Do you believe Nichiren Daishonin could be so intentionally cruel to his devoted followers?

5. Do you believe Nichiren Daishonin to be so irresponsibly lazy and careless to neglect to chant to those few hundred Gohonzon that he just spent much careful time inscribing for his followers: to quality assure that the most important product of his life might function properly?

6. Do you really believe Nichiren Daishonin is that stupid? Or do you just hate him that much?

7. And, by the way, do you think that your "authentic Nichiren ten-world Gohonzon" has EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY secondary item inscribed on it from all the Gohonzon Nichiren Daishonin ever inscribed? What are YOU missing on your "authentic Nichiren ten-world Gohonzon"?

Actually, I can answer that one for you: you have missed entirely everything and all the points of Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Lotus Sutra Buddhism. What you have found is a pointed, utter hatred of Nichiren Daishonin, his followers and the Lotus Sutra, by chanting to a Gohonzon received from the traitors and murderers of Nichiren Shu that now worship statues and chant to stolen Gohonzon copied from those that should only belong to Nichiren Daishonin's true followers pursuing his Kosen Rufu movement.

I would suggest that Nichiren Daishonin inscribed secondary items on some Gohonzon to personalize the Gohonzon in areas of concern, for those followers who needed a leg up to get on their horse and ride. Those who distort that act of deep and thoughtful compassion have turned Nichiren Daishonin's concern for an individual follower and their family, into a weapon of mass destruction to attack his Kosen Rufu movement. Some serious batsu, there!

-Chas.