"Messenger" <bizyl...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:91c39b82.04071...@posting.google.com...
> I asked you to kindly take my article off the internet within the past
> year which you published under copy right without my permission. Not
> only do you disreprect my right to privacy you have skillfully set up
> my article to come up first at the top of the page under a google
> search. I.e., you went out of your way to make my article more
> visible to the public. Therefore, Craig -- here's something for you.
> Now, would everyone here please give the CRAIG-MASTER a call because I
> think he needs some contact.
>
> Craig Bratcher
> 1174 E 900 N
> Wheatfield, Indiana 46392
> Tel (219) 956-2108
>
> In the United States and Canada, you may call toll free
> 1-888-425-9111
>
> Sincerely, Yours truly,
> Lisa M. Flood
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Lisa+M.+Flood&btnG=Google+Search
>I'm an inactive Hokkeko member. And I have other things going on
>besides that in my life, unlike Craig who apparently has a full-time
>job spamming the internet and a part-time job supporting his family.
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
The experience seemed like a pretty good one though. I find it
strange that Craig doesn't link to it from the main page, but I'm not
about to scour his site trying to find a link.
Would it be too presumptuous to ask why you are inactive at
this time? When I was getting the urge to restart my practice I found
ARBN, which put me off for a couple of years at first until I realized
that the Priesthood was the only party in the split that was acting
rationally.
Mark Porter
"I spread this teaching because I too heard thus"
> Yes, the experience was a good one. BUT, for the purposes of background
> checks for employment and things like this, we do not want the entire
> world to know every tear jerking story of our lives. That information
> was intended for Buddhist members only. It was not intended for
> the many other people in my life to see and read.
>
> The objection was that when searching through Google one could find
> my article first on the list, which means that he had to do something
> to finesse this article to the top. This was in complete contradiction
> to my wishes.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lisa
>
Hi Lisa, we talked years ago. Hope all is going well with you.
--
To reply by email, replace the word "space" with "renault"
Hi Kurt, is this Kurt Triffet? If not please remind me who you
are.
Craig probably just made his own web site come up fast on search
engines and that's how my experience came up like that. It's gone
now.
I have another web site with some interesting excerpts and links:
www.angelfire.com/ct/nichiren
Take care.
Lisa
Think so?
Guess again... maybe you can call the cops on archive.org and make them
stop ruining your life
http://web.archive.org/web/20030107095042/www.cebunet.com/nst/Lisaf.html
http://www.sg-eye.com
http://www.daisaku-ikeda.com
http://www.sokacult.com
Love & Light,
= Judy =
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 10:01pm (CDT-2) From: bizyl...@msn.com
(Messenger)
I asked you to kindly take my article off the internet within the past
year which you published under copy right without my permission. Not
only do you disreprect [sic] my right to privacy you have skillfully set
up my article to come up first at the top of the page under a google
search. I.e., you went out of your way to make my article more visible
to the public. Therefore, Craig -- here's something for you. Now, would
everyone here please give the CRAIG-MASTER a call because I think he
needs some contact.
Craig Bratcher
1174 E 900 N
Wheatfield, Indiana 46392
Tel (219) 956-2108
In the United States and Canada, you may call toll free 1-888-425-9111
Sincerely, Yours truly,
Lisa M. Flood
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RC comments: "Sho' You Right"! - Barry White (R.I.P.) I for one do
agree that "CraigB," aka. Craig D.at Brat-cher sho' nuff kindly "needs
some contact" -- with a good bat, bat-tering him "about the head &
shoulders" as well as with a Big left foot put Right to his Big
Phat-ass! LOL.
However, Stoney (me) must really draw the line against posting his
address & phone numbers on the open internet, just for the sake of his
family or "next of kin" who, as far as we know, are innocent of any
Wrong doing & NOT involved with any of his arrogant & ignorant, very low
life conditioned Dumb-ass activities on the internet. "Naw dawg, dat
jes AIN'T rite"! - sez "Dr. Be Cosby, Ph.D" -- "who be duh one in
angwish 'bout duh Anglish langwish"! (rhymes) ROTFL.
So, just go to his favorite ISP - Indiana State Prison and report him to
the "warden" - his beloved "Big Bubba" on cell block "B" - for him
messing around "on the down low" and bothering you women, again! LOL.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
The latest survey for all the American NS temples, May 2004, shows
that approximately 2,683 Hokkeko members are now inactive. This fugure
represents more than half of the "active" list of 1994.
B
"To begin the practise is easy. Persevering is what's difficult. However,
perseverance will lead to Buddhahood."
- Paraphrased from the Gosho
Cody
dc
"Brian" <brah...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:a0faf6ed.04071...@posting.google.com...
There are people who chant on there own but long since stopped donating to
the Silk-cleaning fund.
dc
In a survey for all the American NS temples, May 2004, shows
Using the logic of the grudgy dark woman and the pickle man, should
we all eat garbage just because a zillion flies do?
That's interesting when you consider there were over 400 members in Spain
and now we have more than doubled our membership. Where do you get your
numbers from, oh Great White Hope, your imagination?
> today it is much less.
How would you know?
> There
> is nothing inspirational going on there.
Your icchanitika opinion that NO ONE heeds.
> Plain and simple. No drawing
> power. The temple mice are people with no lives. A sad state of
affairs.
If they would only let you lecture at the temple, everything would be
copacetic, right?
> There are people who chant on there own but long since stopped donating to
> the Silk-cleaning fund.
>
>
> dc
You've inspired me to make a double donation this month.
Cody
Perhaps we can bring in a meter to see how many decibels the drums emit. If
that is the case, the Nichirenshu people must be close to being deaf due to
all the drums that they use. I personally developed tinnitus from the Air
Force and all the turbine engines. Although we all had ear protection, some
jackass would startup a turbine generator right next to your ass as fuck
your ears up for the whole day. Not to mention all the "touch and goes" that
the U2's did all freakin day.
Rob
Over here it's culturally out of place. If they really have to do it,
it would be better with brushes, or maybe take to tapping out the
rhythm on a xylophone instead.
Brian
I really like the sound of Taiko drums. It may be out of place, but if so,
to my ears, in a Good way.
One
I enjoy them as well. I hate when it drowns out the sound of the chanting
though. Strike your drum powerfully, but make sure that your Odaimoku is
even more powerful!
Rob
Well, I have only been to one NST temple, and never was daimoku drowned out
by the drum sounds. I thought they sounded great.
What is Odaimoku?
One
>
>
I like drums..... but really...... give me a break. It is sacrilegious and
downright stupid.
Even stupider is having a RECORDING of drums playing during Daimoku.
Enough is enough---throw the bums out. Send them back to Nip land were they
can do as they wish.
The same goes for some of the stupid Gakkai antics as well.
Look me up when anyone gets serious about real Buddhism.
dc
"OP" <st...@junkemail.com> wrote in message
news:3HHKc.12519$jq6...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
Your solution is to send all the Japanese buddhists back to Japan? I don't
think that will work.
Lots of people are serious about buddhism, some who post here, even.
Don't you think that the current conflicts within NST and SGI will be
resolved in the future? As in "this too shall pass?" I think that their
arguing with each other is about as lame as a Black Sabbath recording.
I don't know what anyone else here thinks about this, but I would never
consider NSHU to be a viable frontrunner candidate for propagation of
buddhism. Zen, no. Tibetan buddhism, no.
What is Odaimoku?
'They will just go back, if people would stop giving them money and playing
their silly games. The Priests dont want to be here anyway. The gakkai lay
leaders will go back too if the money is cut off. Plain and simple and the
non-Japanese power mad will vanish once their money is cut off. forget
about professional "Buddhists," on salary. There should be no such thing.
No. Nshu or other sects haven't a prayer....(literally) if Nichiren Shoshu
and the Gakkai is a empty shell those other groups are shadows of empty
shells.
The Daishonin wrote, "A person has to pick themselves up from the same spot
of earth on which they fell down."
In other words. pick up the dropped stitches back to around 1979.
As far as I am concerned I am still an NSA member. Everyone else went nuts.
Donovan sang, "you've got to pick up every stitch." Its karma. There iwll
be no9 advancement until that occurs or until another force appears to
create a new era of dynamic religion.
Now do I think it will blow over? Oh it will blow over in one way. They
will reunite after it is way too late.
I'd be happy if people would prove me wrong, but I am afraid they wrecked
it beyond repair. a few years ago I began posting about "Itai Doshin and
Reunification" Both sides hated the idea because they are people that have
gone mad.
The most important factor that caused the appearance of Buddhism ( and
Eastern religion in general) in the United States and western countries was
LSD use in the 60's. The real bodhisattva campaign now, would have to be
the legalization of the religious use of entheogenic, visionary plants and
their derivitives, because that is where real Buddhism (and all religion for
that matter) came from in the first place---Yogic practice (chanting, etc)
alone, is too weak. people do not have the capacity (they never did). The
only thing that works in this day and age is a complete mystic experience.
Faith or intellect isn't enough, only mind blowing experience provides the
level of enthusiam required for people to give a damn about uniting.
"ODaimoku" is just the way the other N sects refer to Daimoku--they are the
ones that end there post "Gassho" Pretty silly----they are turning
Japanese...I really think so...But you can bet they ALL originally appeared
at the alter of Nichiren Shoshu by the auspices of Sokagakkai. The top
leader of both groups went nuts. and stupid westerners don't have the balls
or boobs, to kick them to the curb although those Japs are the number one
obstacle to Kosen Rufu.
If I don't talk nasty like this no one hears it. I can at best hope for a
few people to get it. In the mean time, the mental cases on this group
are just mindless robots occupying gang turf.
dc
> What is Odaimoku?
Odaimoku = Nam-myoho-renge-kyo
"O-" is an honourific prefix, similar in function to "Go-" in "Gohonzon."
Derek Juhl
> Well, I have only been to one NST temple, and never was daimoku drowned out
> by the drum sounds. I thought they sounded great.
Some Nichiren sects have all in attendance use drums during the chanting of
Odaimoku. This is why I was stating that if the Nichiren Shoshu folks are
going to develop tinitus from the Taiko, the Nichiren Shu folks must be
about deaf by now due to all the drums that they use. I doubt if OSHA has
any say whatsoever inside a religious institution.
Rob
Kewl! I have 4 hits, please
"Ergot, the source of Lysergic
Acid, is a common poisoness fungi on grains and eaten inadvertently
throughout history. People would have unexpected visions from accidental
ingestion on breads and grains. As we know as a 12 year old child the
Daishonin was said to have "fallen into a swoon" and had a vision of
Kukuzo."
David Cole
As far as I am concerned I am still an NSA member. Everyone else went
nuts.<<<
Yeah, that just about sums it up. Everyone's nuts but you. Riiiight.
Cody
Must be horrible being the only great white hope in the world and
nobody listens to you
Okay. Thanks, Derek. It makes more sense now; although it does look overly
formal to me when I see it repeatedly used.
One
In Nichiren Shoshu, at our temple, we have been using a muted taiko drum
recording so that people can chant in unison better. In a large room,
daimoku easily can get out of sync if there is no strong lead. We
usually have someone leading daimoku in place of this.
As for the drumming after the prayers, it is usually done for only the
last 5 minutes.
I highly doubt if anyone would get tinitus at Myohoji. The combination and
volume of the taiko and chanting seemed perfect. Mr. Cole was the one who
suggested that some NST temple-goers (10 to be exact) probably stay away due
to the danger of the taiko there causing tinitus. We all know this to be
silly. I responded in a strange way probably due to an intence mix of
shellshock and flashback to Operation Desert Storm ;^).
Personally, I think you would be more at risk at a SGI Community Center.
They chant high pitched, loud, and at supersonic speeds! It's like hearing a
2 ton bumble bee in your ear for 45 minutes! Ahhhhhh!
I thought that I read someone here say that the taiko drumming was
"culturally out of place"? Yet chanting strange sounding words to a scroll
in a box is? Whatever.... And comparing taiko during Odaimoku to chanting to
Black Sabbath? Now there is a temple that I would go to! All joking aside,
there is no comparison. Sabbath would be better. no no, I'm joking. The fact
is that they serve very different purposes. The comparison is stupid.
Rob
> I thought that I read someone here say that the taiko drumming was
> "culturally out of place"? Yet chanting strange sounding words to a scroll
> in a box is?
Isn't that the truth!
Nearly all religious pratctices were at some time foreign. Buddhism is
not a native religion to Japan and neither is Christianity, outside of
Palestine. Saying that the drumming was culturally out of place was
maybe a poor choice of words. It was though, in my own experience and
that of many others, annoying. No one can convince someone who is
wincing with each blow, that it's a good thing (doesn't anyone here
ever have a hangover?). Our involuntary physical reaction is
unprejudiced and natural. In any case, if an excessively loud and
offending noise drives one to distraction, what good is that.
It is reassuring to hear the temple in LA has responded to these
concerns and muted the drum and restricted its use to 5 minutes.
Brian
Actually, since the pickle man is from Canada, drum beating would be
very culturally acceptable because of all the indians. But I think what
he means is that if any white people wanted to beat on drums, it may hurt
the indian's feelings, and since the indians are drunk 24/7 they may think
they are being mocked and try to beat up the drum beaters
Drunk Indians are very annoying yet Canada doesn't even try to do anything to
stop them from pissing on the sidewalks and vomiting on the busses
Thank you.
Lisa
:Well, I think it'll blow over, so to speak, when the time is right. It
if getting angry and yelling in public stops you or someone else practicing,
then it's sansho shima
if not it's just the three poisons
--------------------------------
An utterly blatant racist remark.
B
>AKn...@nothinn.com (AKnaff) wrote in message news:<40fd4d1b....@90.0.0.1>...
>> On 20 Jul 2004 04:06:32 -0700, brah...@videotron.ca (Brian) wrote:
>> >Nearly all religious pratctices were at some time foreign. Buddhism is
>> >not a native religion to Japan and neither is Christianity, outside of
>> >Palestine. Saying that the drumming was culturally out of place was
>> >maybe a poor choice of words. It was though, in my own experience and
>> >that of many others, annoying.
>>
>> Drunk Indians are very annoying yet Canada doesn't even try to do anything to
>> stop them from pissing on the sidewalks and vomiting on the busses
>An utterly blatant racist remark.
>B
An utterly true remark
The following are UNsolicited email mess-ages I received from Lisa
Flood, alias "Messenger", aka. Lisa Mary Katherine Gallagher who, by any
name is really No-thing [Zen] but a very mentally & emotionally
disturbed dis-grace to the entire human race and a typical taiten NST/
NSHokkeko female member who really can NOT get along with Anybody, so
her only recourse & purpose in life has been to go around everywhere
she's NOT wanted trying to back-stab Somebody just in order to get back
any kind of attention from Everybody!
DEAR LISA FLOOD, FOOL! Do NOT send me any more of your very "dc" - dumb
& crazy-ass email, and just do what Vice Pres. Dick-head Chainey said:
"Go f*ck yourself", FOOL! LOL.
Sincerely,
Stoney (me)
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Discarded e-mail message
From: bizyl...@msn.com(Lisa Flood)
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 9:37am (CDT+1)
To: chiefst...@webtv.net Subject: Please Remove Your Post - re
Craig Bratcher
Dear Reggie,
I am writing to you to ask that you remove your post with Craig
Bratcher's name, address and telephone number. It's only a request
and it is easy to do. I just don't want this to be a cause for future
problems. You will notice that I have removed my original post as
well. The following are directions to remove the posts containing his
personal info.
Sincerely,
Lisa
---------------------------------------------------------------
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Discarded e-mail message
From: bizyl...@msn.com(Lisa Flood)
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 10:50am (CDT+1)
To: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter) Subject: Re: Please
Remove Your Post - re Craig Bratcher: Reply
Like I said it's only a request and the fact that you will not do this
is only
a reflection of the asswhole [sic] that you are.
BTW, how is your older sister? I did not appreciate the fact that you
slandered
me on the Hokkeko email list.
You are SHIT in my book. Don't waste your time dressing yourself up
in world
peace.
----- Original Message -----
From: Reginald Carpenter
To: Lisa Flood
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Please Remove Your Post - re Craig Bratcher: Reply
Dear Lisa. Remove my post? My answer is "No", period.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
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<<< Stone Eagle >>>
Airborne in Cyberspace*
C
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:00:34 -0500, chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter) wrote:
>Good day, everyone! Re. "Messenger" posting on 7/15/04, 10:01pm CDT-2.
>I changed the subject/ title to: DEAR LISA FLOOD, FOOL!*
>
>The following are UNsolicited email mess-ages I received from Lisa
>Flood, alias "Messenger", aka. Lisa Mary Katherine Gallagher who, by any
>name is really No-thing [Zen] but a very mentally & emotionally
>disturbed dis-grace to the entire human race and a typical taiten NST/
>NSHokkeko female member who really can NOT get along with Anybody, so
>her only recourse & purpose in life has been to go around everywhere
>she's NOT wanted trying to back-stab Somebody just in order to get back
>any kind of attention from Everybody!
>
>DEAR LISA FLOOD, FOOL! Do NOT send me any more of your very "dc" - dumb
>& crazy-ass email, and just do what Vice Pres. Dick-head Chainey said:
>"Go f*ck yourself", FOOL! LOL.
>Sincerely,
>Stoney (me)
>
>WorldPeace! } : < { 0
>******************************************************
>Discarded e-mail message
>
>From: bizyl...@msn.com(Lisa=A0Flood)
>Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 9:37am (CDT+1)
>To: chiefst...@webtv.net Subject: Please Remove Your Post - re
>Craig Bratcher
>
>Dear Reggie,
>
>I am writing to you to ask that you remove your post with Craig
>Bratcher's name, address and telephone number.=A0 It's only a request
>and it is easy to do.=A0 I just don't want this to be a cause for future
>problems. You will notice that I have removed my original post as
>well.=A0 The following are directions to remove the posts containing his
>personal info.
>=A0
>Sincerely,
>Lisa
>=A0
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>=A0
>Hi Lisa,
>Thank you for your note. If the webmaster of a site has removed your
>name or the page, we can remove the cache copy of the page. Please send
>us the exact URL of the page that appears in our search results.
>With regard to Google Groups posts, we offer an automated removal tool
>for posts made to Google Groups. This tool gives users more direct
>control over their posts and ensures that all removal requests are
>processed in a
>timely manner. If the post or posts you'd like to remove were made from
>your current active email account, please go to
>http://services.google.com:8882/urlconsole/controller
>You can register to use the removal tool (please note that this is a
>separate registration from the Google posting registration) and follow
>the instructions for removing a post. Please let us know if you have any
>problems with this service.
>=A0
>From: bizyl...@msn.com(Lisa=A0Flood)
>Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 10:50am (CDT+1)
>To: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter) Subject: Re: Please
>Remove Your Post - re Craig Bratcher: Reply
>
>Like I said it's only a request and the fact that you will not do this
>is only
>a reflection of the asswhole [sic] that you are.
>=A0
>BTW, how is your older sister?=A0 I did not appreciate the fact that you
>slandered
>me on the Hokkeko email list.
>=A0
>You are=A0SHIT in my book.=A0 Don't waste your time dressing yourself up
>in world
>peace.=A0
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Reginald Carpenter
>To: Lisa Flood
>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:19 AM
>Subject: Re: Please Remove Your Post - re Craig Bratcher: Reply
>
>Dear Lisa.=A0 Remove my post?=A0 My answer is "No", period.=A0
>WorldPeace!=A0 } : < { 0
>=A0<<< Stone Eagle >>>=A0
>Airborne in Cyberspace*=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
>******************************************************
>
>
> <<< Stone Eagle >>>
>Airborne in Cyberspace*
>
1) Hello, "CB." Re. the subject, everyone on Arbn and the entire open
internet, especially any naieve new-comers who are unsuspecting males,
needs to be aware of the true nature & intentions of that arrogant &
ignorant, LYING-ass, very low life conditioned DUMB-ass,
split-personalitied old b*tch/ witch -- Lisa Flood/ Lisa Mary Katherine
Gallagher, alias "Messenger" or by any other names that she'll use to
try to mask her identity. What she's done to you, as well as other men
before you, is really No-thing [Zen] but her typical MO - modus
operandi: "blackmail", coercion & extortion!
So, thank goodness that I was warned about her ahead of time by the
"KenB" poster when he told me all about the "number" that she really
tried to do on him years ago and mess him Up with his wife, just for him
being a gentleman & polite enough to try to answer her unsolicited
emails & ever-increasing demands on his time with her long list of CN -
Crackpot & Nutcase personal "requests" about anything & everything,
either Buddhist or non-Buddhist from "A to Z"!
2) But, you know Stoney (me) -- as long as I've been on Arbn & "from
JumpStreet," I have NEVER gone along with Anybody, especially No body
like that FOOL, to bother or try to harass anyone's family who are
innocent people & NOT really involved with any thing that other people
post on Arbn.
3) Further more, though I have "cracked" on you & joked about her going
"OoPps Upside Yo' Head" - silly old R & B song, on many a previous Arbn
occasion in "fun," I really do have such a high degree of respect for
the very dignified & humble woman, kna. your Mrs. "CB", that I wouldn't
even want to mention the name of "that other woman" in the same breath
or even the same sentence!
So, please relate my message(s) re. "that other woman", maybe not
verbatim, to dear Mrs. "CB" and my advice to her to not even speak to
"that other woman" on the telephone ever again; and, give my best
regards to her & your family.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Re: DEAR LISA FLOOD, FOOL!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 3:51pm (CDT+5)
From: non...@yourbusiness.com (CB)
Discarded e-mail message
From: bizyl...@msn.com(Lisa=A0Flood)
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 9:37am (CDT+1)
To: chiefst...@webtv.net Subject: Please Remove Your Post - re
Craig Bratcher
Dear Reggie,
I am writing to you to ask that you remove your post with Craig
Bratcher's name, address and telephone number.=A0 It's only a request
and it is easy to do.=A0 I just don't want this to be a cause for future
problems. You will notice that I have removed my original post as
well.=A0 The following are directions to remove the posts containing his
personal info.
=A0
Sincerely,
Lisa
=A0
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Well I finally just blocked the wacko wench with my mailer-daimon
spam filter so I won't be getting anymore threats via email. Maybe she'll
do something really stupid and send one by snail mail, so I can forward
it to the post master for futher action
>So, thank goodness that I was warned about her ahead of time by the
>"KenB" poster when he told me all about the "number" that she really
>tried to do on him years ago and mess him Up with his wife, just for him
>being a gentleman & polite enough to try to answer her unsolicited
>emails & ever-increasing demands on his time with her long list of CN -
>Crackpot & Nutcase personal "requests" about anything & everything,
>either Buddhist or non-Buddhist from "A to Z"!
Just like the pickle man, she needs to take a pill and chill
>2) But, you know Stoney (me) -- as long as I've been on Arbn & "from
>JumpStreet," I have NEVER gone along with Anybody, especially No body
>like that FOOL, to bother or try to harass anyone's family who are
>innocent people & NOT really involved with any thing that other people
>post on Arbn.
>3) Further more, though I have "cracked" on you & joked about her going
>"OoPps Upside Yo' Head" - silly old R & B song, on many a previous Arbn
>occasion in "fun," I really do have such a high degree of respect for
>the very dignified & humble woman, kna. your Mrs. "CB", that I wouldn't
>even want to mention the name of "that other woman" in the same breath
>or even the same sentence!
Well, people who read the exchanges between me and Cody would
think we hate each other, but in fact it's the opposite. The fun just
never stops here
>So, please relate my message(s) re. "that other woman", maybe not
>verbatim, to dear Mrs. "CB" and my advice to her to not even speak to
>"that other woman" on the telephone ever again; and, give my best
>regards to her & your family.
>WorldPeace! } : < { 0
>******************************************************
I doubt if the wacko woman will be calling again, but if she does
the Mrs will surely send her packing
>WorldPeace! =A0 } : < { 0
>**********************************************
>Discarded e-mail message
>From: bizyl...@msn.com(Lisa=3DA0Flood)
>Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 9:37am (CDT+1)
>To: chiefst...@webtv.net Subject: Please Remove Your Post - re
>Craig Bratcher
>Dear Reggie,
>I am writing to you to ask that you remove your post with Craig
>Bratcher's name, address and telephone number.=3DA0 It's only a request
>and it is easy to do.=3DA0 I just don't want this to be a cause for future=
>
>problems. You will notice that I have removed my original post as
>well.=3DA0 The following are directions to remove the posts containing his=
>
>personal info.
>=3DA0
>Sincerely,
>Lisa
>=3DA0
>----------------------------------------------
>=3DA0
>Hi Lisa,
>Thank you for your note. If the webmaster of a site has removed your
>name or the page, we can remove the cache copy of the page. Please send
>us the exact URL of the page that appears in our search results. With
>regard to Google Groups posts, we offer an automated removal tool for
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>timely manner. If the post or posts you'd like to remove were made from
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>problems with this service.
>=3DA0
>From: bizyl...@msn.com(Lisa=3DA0Flood)
>Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 10:50am (CDT+1)
>To: chiefst...@webtv.net (Reginald Carpenter) Subject: Re: Please
>Remove Your Post - re Craig Bratcher: Reply
>Like I said it's only a request and the fact that you will not do this
>is only
>a reflection of the asswhole [sic] that you are. =3DA0
>BTW, how is your older sister?=3DA0 I did not appreciate the fact that you=
>
>slandered
>me on the Hokkeko email list.
>=3DA0
>You are=3DA0SHIT in my book.=3DA0 Don't waste your time dressing yourself =
>up
>in world
>peace.=3DA0
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Reginald Carpenter
>To: Lisa Flood
>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:19 AM
>Subject: Re: Please Remove Your Post - re Craig Bratcher: Reply
>Dear Lisa.=3DA0 Remove my post?=3DA0 My answer is "No", period.=3DA0
>WorldPeace!=3DA0 } : < { 0
>=3DA0<<< Stone Eagle >>>=3DA0
>Airborne in Cyberspace*=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0
>**********************************************
>=A0=A0<<< Stone Eagle >>>
> You are right on Stoney. Last week Lisa called my office
> number and my wife answered. She said I was "ruining her
> life" with my "internet posts about her." My wife, being used
> to the Ikeda cult antics, chuckled to herself and told her to
> call back later. Then the crazed woman emailed my business
> account, saying she was going to contact the attorney general
> if I didn't remove the experience that she submitted for publishing
> years ago, claiming that I "stole" if from her. Then she emailed
> more threats. Then some more to a different business email she
> found skulking around my business sites. Then as we all know,
> she finally posted my full business address and phone.
> But she's not satisfied with that, now she is spamming others
> with crazy disjointed emails. At this point I don't owe the wacko
> woman a thing. I already capitulated to her demands once, and
> now I'm done with any further entertaining of her blackmail.
So why is it such a problem for you to simply delete her article?
You're just playing games with her.
Truth of the matter is that you didn't even have the permission of NST
to use that material to begin with.
>In article <41013108....@90.0.0.1>, non...@yourbusiness.com (CB)
>wrote:
>
>> You are right on Stoney. Last week Lisa called my office
>> number and my wife answered. She said I was "ruining her
>> life" with my "internet posts about her." My wife, being used
>> to the Ikeda cult antics, chuckled to herself and told her to
>> call back later. Then the crazed woman emailed my business
>> account, saying she was going to contact the attorney general
>> if I didn't remove the experience that she submitted for publishing
>> years ago, claiming that I "stole" if from her. Then she emailed
>> more threats. Then some more to a different business email she
>> found skulking around my business sites. Then as we all know,
>> she finally posted my full business address and phone.
>> But she's not satisfied with that, now she is spamming others
>> with crazy disjointed emails. At this point I don't owe the wacko
>> woman a thing. I already capitulated to her demands once, and
>> now I'm done with any further entertaining of her blackmail.
>
>So why is it such a problem for you to simply delete her article?
I deleted the article as soon as I got her poison pen email and her
threatening calls
>You're just playing games with her.
Me playing games? After she posted my address and business
phone here on arbn out of pure vindictiveness???
The fucking woman is insane and I'm not going to entertain her
anymore of her blackmail
>Truth of the matter is that you didn't even have the permission of NST
>to use that material to begin with.
Rev Kawabe gave me permission years ago, after he spoke with Rev Obayashi
On 24 Jul 2004 00:40:40 -0700, nich...@email.com (Fraud Cop) wrote:
>Anyone reading this line of bull shit has to know that:
>1. Reginald Carpenter solicited me years ago to meet him in Chicago to
>cheat on his wife. Because I declined he wrote me up on the Hokkeko
>email list in the manner of slander as done here recently.
>Fortunately, I never met him in Chicago because his ugliness and stink
>can be felt from miles away.
>
>2. I don't know what KenB has said behind my back but in the public in
>open forum on the ARBN or in Hokkeko email he said nothing. I met him
>personally in my Temple and there was no mention about me coming
>between him and his wife.
>
>3. As far as Craig, there has been no harassment. I merely called him
>to ask him personally to take my name off of his web sites. He says he
>does this for Nichiren Shoshu and yet they don't even know him. His
>local priest in Chicago has no idea who he is. I believe Craig uses
>Nichiren Shoshu as a soap box to stand on. I only wish that the High
>Priest knew what kind of slanderer he was.
>
>4. If I am such a crack pot, bitch etc etc -- then why would you want
>to list my name as a contact person on an obsolete web site for the NY
>Temple and then on another obsolete web site linked to all the Temples
>in the country?
>
>No, what the real problem here is that Craig has smoked too many
>dubies and his mind is warped. He told me himself that he lets his
>kids watch porn on tv and that he has a $20,000 tax lien on his home.
>I doubt that he has improved since then. The only reason he can go on
>Tozan and sit in the front row for a photo opportunity is because no
>one knows him and most of them don't speak English in Japan!
>
>Good fraud Craig. And BTW, I have set and will set my email to reject
>you and Reggie's unsolicited email as well. Both of you are
>non-Buddhists in my book.
Re: DEAR LISA FLOOD, FOOL!*
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2004, 12:40am
(CDT-2) From: nich...@email.com (Fraud Cop)
[FC] Anyone reading this line of bull shit has to know that:
>>> 1. Reginald Carpenter solicited me years ago to meet him in Chicago
to cheat on his wife. Because I declined he wrote me up on the Hokkeko
email list in the manner of slander as done here recently. Fortunately,
I never met him in Chicago because his ugliness and stink can be felt
from miles away. <<<
1). RC replies: Re. the new subject/ title & my previous messages, the
above accusation by Lisa Flood, who's now using the very aptly named
user name of "Fraud" and a Big LIAR who "Cop's"/ answers to that name,
is really No-thing [Zen] but something in her very mentally & emotional
disturbed mind and only "What a Fool Believes"! - Doobie Brothers. LOL.
1a). Because, I/ RC would have NEVER "solicited" any woman like her,
sight unseen, just to "meet him in Chicago to cheat on his wife,"
especially such an obviously arrogant & ignorant, LYING-ass, low life
conditioned DUMB-ass like Lisa Flood, whom her own "kin folk" are even
ashamed of claiming her as an Appalachian hill-billy who's NOT even fit
enough to be called TTT - tractor trailer trash! ROTFL.
1b). The real facts of the matter, instead of the crud, mud & flood of
bullsh*t that NST - NaSTy, Stanky, Trashy and foul mouthed old FOOL --
Lisa Flood -- just wrote is that in the fall of 1998, when the first,
original so called Hokkeko "to list" of email addresses was still being
solely operated by the FOON[L], she already had developed a Bad
reputation amongst some of the male "subscribers"/ members for being
just a Big COMPLAINer, GOSSIPper & NUISANCE!
1c). And, since reading or listening to somebody else COMPLAINing about
their personal life & other people all of the time has always been one
of my pet peeves since my NSA days, then I most certainly did "write her
Up" in order to warn other Hokkeko members about her myself for doing
all that, especially for GOSSIPping -- talking about other members'
personal business behind their backs -- in her unsolicited email
messages that she started sending to me either before or soon after the
Hokkeko "to list" was converted to be the so called "Hokkeko Forum"
later that same year or in early 1999; and then, she was just a very
two-faced b*tch/ witch between what she wrote privately to me about the
other members/ subscribers to the forum in her emails & what she posted
publicly on the Hokkeko forum/ message board!
1d). As I recall what her 5-6yr. old mess-ages were all about, one of
her main COMPLAINts about her low life condition was that her car at the
time was a real sh*t box, an old used Up foreign car that she had and
was still driving everyday while it had very bad brakes on it that
needed to be fixed, and she couldn't afford to do that or to get another
car, or so she wrote me just as I quoted her.
But, she also wrote as I quote that she had never been to Chicago and
wanted to come here that year on a vacation with her teen-aged daughter,
"Lisa Jr.", before she had to go back to school in the Fall, to visit
the city and the NST local temple; and, the only way that she could
afford to travel was by driving in that car. So, I had strongly advised
her NOT to even drive that unsafe vehicle any further, let alone even
think about driving it on a long, interstate road trip thru the
mountains and endangering both her child's life & her own, until she got
those brakes fixed and/ or had made Up her scattered-brain mind about
whether to keep & repair that old car or NOT!
1e). Anyway, since we've got "Oprah" & plenty of other wealthy women
like her here, and already filled Up our "quota" of poor white, low
life, junkie & trashy, Appalachian women who live in an overcrowded,
poor little ghetto they've created on the NW side of the city, "right
next door" to the Native American Indians' ghetto, where those whores
can be picked Up either night or day & bought for the price of a box of
cigarettes, now it is a violation of city ordinance for any citizen to
even invite someone like Lisa Crud/ Mud Flood, that poor sorry-ass old
FOOL to even come past the city limits to visit as a "tourist" anymore!
ROTFL.
--------------------------------------------------------------- [FC] >>>
2. I don't know what KenB has said behind my back but in the public in
open forum on the ARBN or in Hokkeko email he said nothing. I met him
personally in my Temple and there was no mention about me coming between
him and his wife. <<<
2). RC replies: see above #1. But, if you just ain't "the pot calling
the kettle 'black' " - the nerve of an old Big GOSSIPper like you
wondering what someone/ "KenB has said [about you] behind my [your]
back" for a change, FOOL?! ROTFL.
2a). Well, other than what I've already said before, you just AIN'T
gonna get any thing more about what "KenB" said/ wrote about you from
Stoney (me), so you just have to suffer, you GOSSIPpy old b*tch/ witch
-- Lisa Flood, since your name very aptly rhymes and is "cousins" with
the crud-dy & mud-dy type of woe-man you really are and is just the kind
of "dirt"/ crud & mud that a "boss hog" like you really loves to wallow
in & GOSSIP about with anybody any old time of day or night, FOOL!
ROTFL.
---------------------------------------------------------------
[FC] >>> 3. As far as Craig, there has been no harassment. I merely
called him to ask him personally to take my name off of his web sites.
He says he does this for Nichiren Shoshu and yet they don't even know
him. His local priest in Chicago has no idea who he is. I believe Craig
uses Nichiren Shoshu as a soap box to stand on. I only wish that the
High Priest knew what kind of slanderer he was. <<<
3). RC replies: see above #s 1 & 2.
"Oh, contrare", you very low life conditioned, LYING-ass b*tch/ witch,
Lisa Crud/ Mud Flood!
3a). First of all, "as far as Craig," harassment is exactly what you've
already done to him & his family on Arbn -- just publishing his name,
their addresses & their phone numbers on the open internet & encouraging
other internet NUTty people like you to "contact him" solely for your
own selfishly motivated, peculiar, personal, piss-poor PPP - poisonous
purient purposes -- and exactly what you've already done to him & his
family off Arbn -- just "merely called"/ calling his home and/ or place
of business and COMPLAINing & WHINing to his wife, the good Mrs "CB",
about all of your NEUROTIC & PSYCHOTIC, petty personal concerns, you
mentally cruddy "Dud" & "stick in the mud" -- Lisa Flood!
FYI - you really have NO legal rights anymore to your own personal
"experience" once you have given it away to anyone and/ or published it
yourself on the open internet and/ or a printed publication, "No matter
what" that equally arrogant & ignorant, LYING-ass, low life conditioned,
DUMB-ass, two-faced b*tch/ witch like you, Kurt the two-faced HYPOCRITE
Triffet has told you, Lisa Crud/ Mud Flood!
3b). Secondly, IF the "Nichiren Shoshu" really "don't even know him,"
and "his local priest in Chicago has no idea who he is," then shame on
them for ever taking his gokuyo/ money or that from other people like
him and for "his local priest[s]" NOT caring enough or even doing their
jobs good enough to make it his/ their business to know who the few good
members are left that are still attending & supporting that temple!
3c). However, everything that Lisa Crud/ Mud Flood just wrote is/ was
really No-thing [Zen] but d-a-m-ned Big Lies as told by that very
d-a-m-ned Big LIAR; because, Stoney (me) first met him at NST Myogyoji
temple in 1993, where I was put in charge of the reception committee by
his favorite chief priest, and he was coming to the temple with his
family. And, he put Up the first NST Myogyoji temple website for that
chief priest and did the same thing for him after the chief priest was
transferred to NST Myosenji temple in 1996. And, he maintained the
website for the next chief priest who was transferred here in 1996
which brings us Up to the current chief priest who was transferred here
in late "Y2K"/ year 2000, and I personally informed him about "Craig"
and the need for the website to be Updated again for the year 2001, and
from whom I personally conveyed his message and posted it on Arbn for
"Craig" to call the chief priest about that!
So, at this point, I shall just disregard the rest of this LYING-ass,
CRACKpot NUTcase's GOSSIPpy mess-age who has been given way too much of
anyone's attention & valuable time already with her simple-mindedness --
Lisa Crud/ Mud Flood, alias "Fraud Cop", who's really No-thing [Zen] but
an Appalachian Fraud KOOK, alright! ROTFL.
NBW - Nichiren Buddhist War. } : < { 0
======================================
[FC] 4. If I am such a crack pot, bitch etc etc -- then why would you
want to list my name as a contact person on an obsolete web site for the
NY Temple and then on another obsolete web site linked to all the
Temples in the country?
No, what the real problem here is that Craig has smoked too many dubies
and his mind is warped. He told me himself that he lets his kids watch
porn on tv and that he has a $20,000 tax lien on his home. I doubt that
he has improved since then. The only reason he can go on Tozan and sit
in the front row for a photo opportunity is because no one knows him and
most of them don't speak English in Japan!
Good fraud Craig. And BTW, I have set and will set my email to reject
you and Reggie's unsolicited email as well. Both of you are
non-Buddhists in my book.
On 24 Jul 2004 14:05:44 -0700, nich...@email.com (Fraud Cop) wrote:
>CRAIG-MASTER AKA TOILET TALK MASTER:
>I have already reported you to the FBI, Rev. Murata and Rev. Nagasaka.
>I am now going to add Rev. Takano, and thanks for the info. Rev.
>Kawabe.>I also have Rev. Obayashi's address and I will be sending a letter to
>my State Attorney General. And I have access to patent lawyers as
>well.>You are a CREEP.
>You have no right to publish my article and call me "fucking crazy".
>You are a non-Buddhist. You don't have any qualifications for
>publishing Nichiren Shoshu articles, and therefore you acquired this
>article under false pretenses.
>I wrote the article to benefit Buddhist members, not you. It was not
>intended as a license for you to publish duragatory information about
>me and then keep my experience on your web site to refer to me with
>your toilet talk.
>Why don't you wash your mouth out with soap.
>
>-------------------
Good day, everyone! Re. "Messenger" posting on 7/15/04, 10:01pm CDT-2. I
changed the subject/ title just to add: (?!)*
****************************************************** DEAR CRAIG
BRATCHER
Group: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren
Date: Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 10:01pm (CDT-2) From: bizyl...@msn.com
(Messenger)
I asked you to kindly take my article off the internet within the past
year which you published under copy right without my permission. Not
only do you disreprect [sic] my right to privacy you have skillfully set
up my article to come up first at the top of the page under a google
search. I.e., you went out of your way to make my article more visible
to the public. Therefore, Craig -- here's something for you. Now, would
everyone here please give the CRAIG-MASTER a call because I think he
needs some contact.
Craig Bratcher
1174 E 900 N
Wheatfield, Indiana 46392
Tel (219) 956-2108
In the United States and Canada, you may call toll free 1-888-425-9111
Sincerely, Yours truly,
Lisa M. Flood
--------------------------------------------------------------- RC
comments: "Sho' You Right"! - Barry White (R.I.P.) I for one do agree
that "CraigB," aka. Craig D.at Brat-cher sho' nuff kindly "needs some
contact" -- with a good bat, bat-tering him "about the head & shoulders"
as well as with a Big left foot put Right to his Big Phat-ass! LOL.
However, Stoney (me) must really draw the line against posting his
address & phone numbers on the open internet, just for the sake of his
family or "next of kin" who, as far as we know, are innocent of any
Wrong doing & NOT involved with any of his arrogant & ignorant, very low
life conditioned Dumb-ass activities on the internet. "Naw dawg, dat jes
AIN'T rite"! - sez "Dr. Be Cosby, Ph.D" -- "who be duh one in angwish
'bout duh Anglish langwish"! (rhymes) ROTFL.
So, just go to his favorite ISP - Indiana State Prison and report him to
the "warden" - his beloved "Big Bubba" on cell block "B" - for him
messing around "on the down low" and bothering you women, again! LOL.
WorldPeace! } : < { 0
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Reposted on 7/28/04