Does SGI know the significance of their most rampant boasting?

[Katie Higgins]

SGI boasts, "we have 12,000,000 adherents"

“In both secular and religious realms, as is plain to see, good persons are rare while evil persons are numerous. Why, then, do you insist upon despising the few and favoring the many? Dirt and sand are plentiful, but rice and other grains are rare. The bark of trees is available in great quantities, but hemp and silk fabrics are hard to come by. You should put the truth of the teaching before everything else; certainly you should not base your judgment on the number of adherents.” -- Nichiren

"Certainly you should not base your judgment on the number of adherents." — Nichiren
http://markrogow.blogspot.com/2017/07/sgi-boasts-we-have-12000000-adherents.html



It is noteworthy to consider the evidence of "number of adherents "when one is looking directly at the effects of propagating an evil doctrine, that is to say; the spiritual decline of our society and the global unrest that puts us on the brink of self destruction!

Is there a clearer example of how far afield SGI has become from the teachings of Nichiren? I mean, when they actually begin to boast that they are responsible for the decline and decay of the spirits of the people-- on a global scale??--- is there no one who can awaken SGI from its fixed delusions?

~Katie

[Chas.]

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 8:41:47 AM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 9:49:53 AM UTC-4, Noel wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 10:49:10 AM UTC+10, Katie Higgins wrote:
> > > I did not compile the list of disputed Gosho . Why don't you know how to access this "available to the public" info ?
> > >
> > > Because SGI is not permitting open dialogue and long overdue investigation of ALL matters relating to challenges to SGIs legitimacy .
> > >
> > > You are exposing the basic tenets of your cult - control information and suppress dissent !
> > >
> > > ~Katie
> >
> > It's only fair that you answer what Chas has requested of you on this serious matter concerning the legitimacy of Nichirens teachings that you so often drag through the mire
> >
> > If you can't give evidence to which Gosho's are fake, then perhaps those that you trust in such as Mark Shinkei Jacqueline and assorted scholars etc can prove their allegations by starting with these important writings and then go on to all the other Goshos not mentioned here in this list that is also considered as being faked.This is your big chance and for those that you look up to prove themselves right, don't miss out on this opportunity
> >
> >
> > "The five major writings that are common to all Nichiren Buddhism are:
> >
> > On Establishing the Correct Teaching for the Peace of the Land (Rissho Ankoku Ron) — written between 1258-1260. [65]
> >
> >
> > The Opening of the Eyes (Kaimoku-sho) — written in 1272.
> >
> >
> > The Object of Devotion for Observing the Mind (Kanjin-no Honzon-sho) — written in 1273.
> >
> >
> > The Selection of the Time (Senji-sho) — written in 1275.
> >
> >
> > On Repaying Debts of Gratitude (Ho'on-sho) — written in 1276.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nichiren Shōshū and its offshoot lay groups revere ten major writings. In addition to the five listed above, they also revere:
> >
> >
> > On Chanting the Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra (Sho-hokke Daimoku-sho) — Written in 1260.
> >
> >
> > On Taking the Essence of the Lotus Sutra (Hokke Shuyo-sho) — written in 1274.
> >
> >
> > On the Four Stages of Faith and the Five Stages of Practice (Shishin Gohon-sho) — written in 1277.
> >
> >
> > Letter to Shimoyama (Shimoyama Gosho-soku) — written in 1277.
> >
> >
> > Questions and Answers on the Object of Devotion (Honzon Mondo-sho) — written in 1278."
>
> Missing my point, Noel-- jumping on to a train that derails time and again with irrelevant disputing from you "self-appointed" experts who cannot even read the original language in the Major Writings.
>
> The fact that disputes over translations point to "engineering" and even fabricating documents by the largest Nichiren sects is at issue. Reading the work of scholars and having resources like Shinkei are crucial to unpacking the lies you have swallowed. All you want to do is defend the "lies" and attack individuals who UNLIJE you, are concerned mostly with the truth.
>
> Those I am in contact with are having no trouble researching on their own with guidance I share from Shinkei. For example, the Chu-hokkekyo , a "Japanese Cultural Treasure"-- extant in original form, the annotations of Nichiren's personal copy of the Threefold Lotus sutra, in Nichiren's own hand-- in Classical Chinese. The moderator of Dharma Wheel made use of information shared by Shinkei to access info on this precious gift from Nichiren-- and found,-- YES!!, the statement that "one must do Gongyo to attain Buddhahood" exists in Nichiren's own hand. Rev. Ricky was defeated by one statement from "scripture".
> Defeated on dharma wheel and pretty much ignored, he comes here to the sound of Noel's applause and displays the height of his insanity by not realizing he was defeated in his MAJOR thesis debate.
>
> Others on dharma Wheel, and amongst those I am in contact with , have gone further -- to investigate the Chu-hokkekyo. ALL immediately ask: Why was an "orally RECORDED transmission, the Ongi Kuden, which appeared some 200 years after Nichiren's passing, ACCEPTED and propagated, while the document in Nichiren's own hand, referencing the Lotus Sutra specifically was dismissed?"
>
> You guys spend all your time defending your laziness; showing actual proof of the consequences of following evil doctrines!
>
> So, NO-- I won't engage in your bashing games--Why? Because those with a pure seeking mind of faith , who care first and foremost about what Nichiren actually WROTE, are already on the right track aboard a train that is not full of egomaniacs !
>
> ~Katie

Your arguments, as usual, make absolutely no sense. The Sutras, including the Lotus Sutra, are orally recorded transmissions. Writing something down and dictating something and having it written down and then checking it are exactly the same. In the case of the sutras, Shakyamuni was not there 30 years after his death to check the work of Ananda, but other aged participants were.

Nichiren Daishonin was alive to check over Nikko's written down transcript, and since he gave these lectures many times over the years, to re-check and use the notes to drive the lectures. Which is why he had Nikko Shonin write them down in the first place.

Later these things get copied down to propagate them, and then the originals go astray (sometimes by Nichiren Shu treasonous banditry, to support the very arguments you thieves and traitors make now.)

However, to eradicate your copious slander of the Gosho in the broad sense, by effectively declaring all of it null and void, I ask you once again to abandon you cowardly attacks on Nichiren Daishonin's work and go on the record to come up with a specific list of faked Goshos. Otherwise your cowardly attacks will be branded as such in future, on their face.

You need to abandon those cowardly tactics or sharpen them up by providing a list of specific parts of the Goshos and the Lotus Sutra that you consider faked. Otherwise you are a scoundrel and a coward, as well as a thieving traitor to Nichiren Daishonin.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

131) 鼠入鹿事　(132) さじき女房御返事　(133) 下山御消息①最澄の正式表記(133) 下山御消息②ルビ付け(133) 下山御消息③隣国の聖人(134) 四条金吾殿御返事末代の凡夫　雑感(9) 真蹟、写本？「下山御消息」教主釈尊より大事なる行者から(135) 兵衛志殿御返事①百年の功も一言にやぶれ候は法の理なり(135) 兵衛志殿御返事②賢者はよろこび 愚者は退(135) 兵衛志殿御返事③此彼須弥山に針と糸(135) 兵衛志殿御返事④十二品殊に重の中の重きなり(136) 霖雨御書　(137) 兵衛志殿御返事一遍題目(138) 破信堕悪御書（断簡121）悪人(139) 現世無間御書他国よりの責め、無間地獄を心見る(140) 日女御前御返事法華経の命を継ぐ(141) 兵衛志殿御返事下痢、金吾の薬で治る(142) 妙法尼御前御返事①免う本うれんくゑきやう(142) 妙法尼御前御返事③須弥山金色、仏種、煩悩菩提・生死即涅槃・即身成仏(143) 兵衛志殿御返事　(144) 兵衛志殿御返事やセやまい(145)兵衛志殿御返事①身延山中の寒さ(145)兵衛志殿御返事②身延山中に40人60人(146) 南条殿御返事断簡一人として仏にならざるはなし(147) 常楽我浄御書（断166）常楽我浄(148) 真蹟断片四書ノ二（断37）①守護,安徳天皇(148) 断263②　(149) 上野殿御返事①日興の日付注記(149) 上野殿御返事②宝と財,不軽菩薩(149) 上野殿御返事③藍よりも青く、水よりも冷たき氷(150) 種々物御消息身延の苛酷な有様(151) 孝子御書兄弟の御仲不和にわたらせ給べからず(152) 窪尼御前御返事　(153) 王日殿御返事一字変じて米となる(154) 松野殿御返事飢饉に人を食らう(155) 松野殿女房御返事　(156) 陰徳陽報御書不孝御書(157) 陰徳陽報御書陰徳あれば陽報あり(158) 上野殿御返事同書の貼り合わせ(159) 盂蘭盆御書①7月15日(159) 盂蘭盆御書②目連尊者と浄名居士(159) 盂蘭盆御書③目連が色心仏になりしかば父母の身も又仏になりぬ(159) 盂蘭盆御書④無戒の僧、仰ぐ釈迦仏、信ずる法華経(159) 盂蘭盆御書⑤我身は藤の如く、法華経の松にかかり妙覚の山に登る(160) 乗明上人御返事　(161) 光日尼御返事　(162) 太田入道殿御返事　(163) 大学三郎殿御書　(164) 断簡197　(165) 大尼御前御返事　　雑感(11) 本仏大聖人から、人間日蓮へ　(166) 断156（帰伏正法御書）　(167) 窪尼御前御返事ほととぎすの一音有り難し(167) 窪尼御前御返事②虚御教書(168) 両人御中御書譲り状　雑感(12) 第４巻畢る　(169) 千日尼御返事（阿仏房書）①　(169) 千日尼御返事（阿仏房書）②若有聞法者無一不成仏(169) 千日尼御返事（阿仏房書）③精霊、霊鷲山宝塔の内に(169) 千日尼御返事（阿仏房書）④男は柱、女桁。男は足、女は身。(169) 千日尼子返事（阿仏房書）⑤死んで仏に成る(169) 千日尼御返事（阿仏房書）⑥法華経の道場と墓　雑感(12) 千日尼御返事について　(171) 上野尼御母前御返事後加文改竄か？(172) 上野尼御前御返事　(173) 富城殿女房尼御前御書伊予、越後、下野の人間関係(174) 富城殿御返事不断法華経

Partial list of authentic Gosho. More to come later.
The 'teacher of the law' or 'the first noel' can translate the list for Chas 😂😂

< Katie

[Alan (Dennis G)]

As it's a re post - and for comedy value, here's the Google Translation

131) Soiri deer events (132) gallery wife Ohenji (133) Shimoyama your news ① formal notation (133) Shimoyama your news ② ruby ​​with the Saicho (133) Shimoyama your news ③ neighboring country of saints (134) Kingo Shijo dono Ohenji perpetuity of the ordinary man miscellaneous thoughts (9) true autograph, manuscripts? "Shimoyama your whereabouts," Sheikh (135) from the important Naru ascetic than the Buddha Hyoe aspirations dono Ohenji ① hundred old man's wisdom also weather defeated in a word it is made sense of the law (135) Hyoe aspirations Dear Ohenji ② wise man is joy fool retreat (135 ) Hyoe Zhi Dear Ohenji ③ 此彼 Mount Meru to the needle and thread (135) Hyoe aspirations Dear Ohenji ④ twelve dishes especially made emphasis in the heavy (136) 霖雨 Gosho (137) Hyoe aspirations Dear Ohenji cursory title (138 ) Yabushin 堕悪 Gosho (Duncan 121) villain (139) worldly Mugen blame than your writing other countries, see the heart of the Mugen hell (140) day take over the life of the woman before him Ohenji the Lotus Sutra (141) Hyoe aspirations dono Ohenji diarrhea, heal in medicine of Kingo (142) Myoho nun sight Ohenji ① immune cormorant this Urenku Wekiyau (142) Myoho nun sight Ohenji ③ Mount Meru gold, Buddha species, earthly desires bodhi, life and death immediate nirvana-sokushinbutsu (143) Samurai aspirations gentlemen reply (144) Hyoe aspirations hall Ohenji and Seya Mai (145) Hyoe aspirations Dear Ohenji ① cold in Minobusan (145) Hyoe aspirations Dear Ohenji ② 40 people 60 people in Minobusan (146) Nanjo Dear Ohenji Duncan None is forced to become a Buddha as a person (147) Joraku WareKiyoshi Gosho (cross-sectional 166) Joraku WareKiyoshi (148) true autograph fragment Four Books Roh two (cross-sectional 37) ① patron, Emperor Antoku (148) cross-sectional 263② (149) Ueno gentlemen reply ① date Note (149) Ueno dono Ohenji ② treasure and goods of Nikko, non-light Bodhisattva (149) Ueno dono Ohenji ③ blue than the indigo, Tsumetaki ice (150) than the water various products your news harsh plight of Minobu (151) Takako not Bekara Watase supply to your relationship discord of your written brothers (152) KuboNi sight Ohenji (153) of converting thereinto King Date Dear Ohenji one character formed by the US (154) Matsuno Dear Ohenji famine to eat the person ( 155) Matsuno Dear wife Ohenji (156) secret charity Yoho Gosho undutifulness Gosho (157) secret charity Yoho Gosho secret charity There Yoho if any (158) Ueno dono Ohenji bonding of the book (159) Feast of Lanterns Gosho ① 7 may 15 days (159) Feast of Lanterns Gosho ② Melen Venerable and Kiyoshimei Cosi (159) Feast of Lanterns Gosho ③ eyes Len unexpected becomes also in French only parents if Shika will Iroshin Buddha (159) Feast of Lanterns Gosho ④ No precepts of the monk, seek Buddha Buddha, believe the law Through (159) Feast of Lanterns Gosho ⑤ Waremi is as wisteria, climb to the mountain of TaeSatoshi it relates to pine of the Lotus Sutra (160) NoAkira saint Ohenji (161) light Date nun Ohenji (162) Nyudo Ota gentlemen reply (163) from the University of Saburo gentlemen manual (164) Duncan 197 (165) large nun sight Ohenji miscellaneous thoughts (11) present France Daishonin, on human Nichiren (166) cross 156 (Kifuku Masanori Gosho) (167) KuboNi sight your one sound of reply Shiki Arigatashi (167) KuboNi sight Ohenji ② imaginary Migyosho (168) both people Dear Please write Yuzurijo miscellaneous thoughts (12) the fourth Maki畢Ru (169) thousand days nun Ohenji (Abutsu Bosho) ① ( 169) thousand days nun Ohenji (Abutsu Bosho) ② youth Yes 聞法's no monounsaturated Buddhahood (169) thousand days nun Ohenji (Abutsu Bosho) ③ spirit, your nun (169) thousand days in the spirit Washiyama Hoto reply (Abutsu Bosho) ④ man is the pillar, a woman digits. Man foot, the woman only. (169) thousand days Amako reply (Abutsu Bosho) ⑤ dead made to the Buddha (169) thousand days nun Ohenji (Abutsu Bosho) ⑥ dojo and grave miscellaneous thoughts (12) of the Lotus Sutra thousand days nun for Ohenji (171) Ueno Amago mother before or Ohenji after Kabun tampering? (172) Ueno Amaomae Ohenji (173) wealth Kidono wife nun sight Gosho Iyo, Echigo, human relations of Shimono (174) wealth Kidono Ohenji unremitting Lotus Sutra

[Katie Higgins]

Unlikely you are employing correct means or methods -/

I guess you wanted to demonstrate that a skill set is a basic requirement ??

~Katie

[Chas.]

This is not what I want, or you should produce, since it throws doubt on all other Gosho letters, although I suspect that is your true intent.

Go on record for which ones you say are faked Gosho letters.

And in English, please, don't be opaque. Nichiren Daishonin was not opaque.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Did you miss the numerous times I have " gone on record " with evidence , that the Ongi Kuden is FAKE? Since most of your warped concepts area derived from that particular FAKE document I would propose starting there-- and proceed to your favored source for choice condemnation - based insults, " Nikko's FAKE 26 Admonitions " -

~Katie

[Noel]

Your so fake katie that you make fake look real

[Katie Higgins]

For the " real Noel ":

"Unless one can perceive the relative profundity of the various writings, one cannot judge the worth of the principles they reveal."

30 The Opening of the Eyes

"A person’s writings tell us the nature of that person’s mind. The mental and physical components of the individual are in the end inseparable, and hence what a person has written will reveal whether that person is well or poorly endowed in nature."

174 Questions and Answers on the Various Schools

"Words and writing, then, are the medium through which these inseparable factors of the mental and physical makeup of all living beings are revealed. If you do not depend on words or writing, then you cannot give expression to your mental and physical expressions."

174 Questions and Answers on the Various Schools

~Katie

[Chas.]

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 7:32:09 AM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> So, apparently you have done nothing to address your abject ignorance of the Chu/ hokkekyo.
>
> You sound like a total fool calling Nichiren's annotations " notes in the margin"-/
>
> The margins of which manuscript ?
>
> " The great lantern that illuminates the long night of the sufferings of birth and death, the sharp sword that severs the fundamental darkness inherent in life, is none other than the Lotus Sutra." ~Nichiren " A Comparison of the Lotus Sutra and Other Sutras" written to Toki Jonin (1280)
>
> The same Lotus Sutra that contains these two lines - recommended for daily recitation by Nichiren :
>
> " Therefore I do not manifest My Body, to cause them to produce adoration.
> Because of their hearts' affectionate longing then I come forth and preach the Dharma for them " ( Jiga-ge)
>
> Maybe you don't know which teaching Nichiren devoted his life to ?
>
> And you could find no reference to support Nichiren's last will and testament - the original document ?
>
> Yes, once again it is just your own ignorance and laziness that explains your meager understanding -- I shouldn't attribute your ignorance to malice ?
>
> ~ Katie

Shifting your ground does not change the fact that you lied and are a liar.

Nichiren Daishonin's notes in the margin of someone else's writings are not Gosho, and must not be presented as Gosho. They require too much context that is missing. If Nichiren Daishonin had intended a thought to be present in the Gosho, he would have made it so.

For his own reasons, the formality of Gongyo is NOT present in the Gosho, even though he does talk about sometimes reciting the short stretches of the Expedient Means Chapter 2 and the Jigage of the Life Span Chapter 16, he DOES NOT PRESCRIBE GONGYO AS THE CURE TO ENDARKENMENT, such as you manifest widely.

He prescribes chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo to the Gohonzon for enlightenment, and DOES NOT SUGGEST TO CHANT TO STATUES OF SHAKYAMUNI ANYWHERE IN THE GOSHO AS A PRACTICE.

Stop lying, Katie. Stop being a liar.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Wow! " Nichiren's notes on his personal copy of the Threefold Lotus Sutra are not " honorific writings"? Says Chas - who does not know what he does not know --/

Chas shows preference for expanded versions of what were originally "notes circulated in secrecy based on oral transmission " or rather the Tendai Hongaku-shiso, which underpin the delusion that he is a "fully endowed true buddha ", which departs from the traditional ways the three bodies of the Buddha have been developed in Sutras and commentarial literature in India and China. Chas shuns Nichiren's own writing ON ( literally ) the most honorific scripture , the Lotus Sutra. Chas demeans Nichiren 's scripture based teachings and instead embraces the writings
of priests who simply ignore the historical context of traditional Buddhist notions and their import , using them in their own arbitrary way .

Slander to the tenth power, by Chas 🙀

~Katie

[Noel]

"Could anyone venture to doubt it? Indeed it cannot be doubted!" Yes Nichiren that's true but Mark and Katie doubt the Buddha eternally endowed with the three bodies is to be found in your disciples and lay believers because they are too busy glorifying Shakyamuni Buddha


"In essence, the entity of Myoho-renge-kyo is the physical body that the disciples and followers of Nichiren who believe in the Lotus Sutra received from their fathers and mothers at birth.

Such persons, who honestly discard expedient means, put faith in the Lotus Sutra alone, and chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, will transform the three paths of earthly desires, karma, and suffering into the three virtues of the Dharma body, wisdom, and emancipation.

The threefold contemplation and the three truths will immediately become manifest in their minds, and the place where they live will become the Land of Eternally Tranquil Light.

The Buddha who is the entity of Myoho-renge-kyo, of the “Life Span” chapter of the essential teaching, who is both inhabiting subject and inhabited realm, life and environment, body and mind, entity and function, the Buddha eternally endowed with the three bodies—he is to be found in the disciples and lay believers of Nichiren.

Such persons embody the true entity of Myoho-renge-kyo; this is all due to the meritorious workings that the spontaneous transcendental powers inherent in it display. Could anyone venture to doubt it? Indeed it cannot be doubted!"

The Entity of the Mystic Law

[Katie Higgins]

Can you merge this with thousands of passages about Shakyamuni and Nichiren's life story as the foremost votary of the Lotus Sutra?

Can you support the points you find illuminated here in the 10 Major Writings?

~Katie

[Noel]

You have been asked time and time again about fake writings of Nichiren and you haven't been able to substantiate your claims. We are still waiting

[Chas.]

You keep making the same fallacious argument, that because the eternal Buddha's actual name is NOT the Nichiren Daishonin, it must be Shakyamuni, raised up by you and Nichiren Shu as some Hindu/Shinto God Almighty avatar of Brahma or Vishnu. In fact the actual name of the entity, according to Nichiren Daishonin, is "Myoho-Renge." And all common mortals receive the three bodies at birth, from their parents. See the Gosho quotes below...
__________________________________________________

________ Slanders of the eternal Buddha __________

Once again, that quote from ARBN:

||| "A Nichiren Buddhist priest that I recently met in Japan
||| said that there were around 50 Nikko sects and SGI and
||| Nichiren Shoshu are only 2 of them and there around 500
||| Nichiren Shu sects. I reckon he'd be right by the amount
||| of temples I visited. Some of the Nichiren Shu and Nikko
||| temples had Nichiren placed directly in front of the
||| Gohonzon. The deity's in the temple grounds and inside
||| their temples of the Pure land, Shingon, Shinto and Zen are
||| the same as the deity's we have in our Gohonzons but in 3D
||| up to about 20m in Height ..."

It is unimaginable that people could read the Gosho quote down below and still not understand what Nichiren Daishonin states clearly: the original Buddha is named Myoho-Renge, and not named Shakyamuni, Nichiren Daishonin, anyone or anything else.

The treachery of the Five Senior Priests who founded Nichiren Shu and converted Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Buddhism into a syncretic Shinto statue-worshiping deist faith has now led to this treasonous view by a denizen of ARBN:

||| I have considered the recipients of Nichiren's writings to
||| be a key factor, or rather, an important element regarding
||| the *meaning* conveyed. Nichiren wrote about the Gohonzon
||| to disciples and lay followers whom he had taught for
||| almost two decades; all of whom grasped the doctrines
||| Nichiren himself established for propagating
||| Myoho-renge-kyo in this latter age.
|||
||| Do you, Chas, accept and believe the preceding 18 years of
||| Nichiren's teachings , written to these disciples and lay
||| followers? In those writings I find and provide passages
||| here, to establish that Nichiren himself taught the primacy
||| of the daimoku as " a complete explanation" of the Lotus
||| Sutra, and Shakyamuni as the true, eternal Buddha. Since
||| you have dismissed the basic understanding ALL recipients
||| of Nichiren's writings most certainly had, how can you make
||| any determinations about the *meaning* expressed in the
||| Gosho?

First, let's hear what Nichiren Daishonin says on the subject.

From "The Entity of the Mystic Law", p. 420:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-30

... Question: The Great Teacher T'ien-t'ai has explained that
... the term Myoho-renge is used in two different senses, one
... meaning the entity of Myoho-renge and the other being
... figurative in meaning. What are these two kinds of renge,
... or lotus?
...
... Answer: The figurative renge, or lotus, is explained in
... detail in the three metaphors of the lotus blossom
... enfolding the seed, the lotus blossom opening to reveal the
... seed inside, and the lotus blossom falling and the
... seed ripening, so one should refer to them. The lotus that
... is the entity of Myoho-renge is explained in the seventh
... volume of The Profound Meaning of the Lotus Sutra as
>> follows: "RENGE, OR LOTUS, IS NOT A SYMBOL; IT IS THE
>> ACTUAL NAME OF THE ENTITY. For example, at the beginning
... of the kalpa of continuance, the various things in the
... world had no names. The sage observed the principles that
... govern them and on that basis made up names for them." He
... also writes: "Now the name renge is not intended as a
... symbol for anything. It is the teaching expounded in the
... Lotus Sutra. The teaching expounded in the Lotus Sutra is
... pure and undefiled and explains the subtleties of cause
... and effect. Therefore, it is called renge, or lotus. This
... name designates the true entity that the meditation based
... on the Lotus Sutra reveals, and is not a metaphor or
... figurative term."

Note the line, Myoho-Renge is "the actual name of the entity," the Entity of the Mystic Law.

"The entity" of the Mystic Law, BTW, is the original Buddha, the Buddha of Limitless Joy, the Buddha of Beginningless Time, the eternal Buddha, the Buddha of the original state, or the true Buddha: these are all the same.

However, "the entity" is clearly not named Shakyamuni Buddha NOR Nichiren Daishonin, in spite of their profound roles in manifesting the enlightenement of the Lotus Sutra, preaching the Lotus Sutra and leading the Kosen Rufu endeavour to spread it widely.

Myoho-Renge is the entity of eternal enlightenment, not named after someone who practiced Brahmanism (Shakyamuni) or Amida Buddhism (Nichiren Daishonin) earlier in their life. These are real people, who emerge from the impurities of the Saha World and attain enlightenment through the Lotus Sutra alone, and no other practice (in fact, in spite of other grievous slanders of the Law.)

We all manifest Myoho-Renge when we chant the daimoku: when we give voice to the eternal truth of the Law. However, all common mortals are two, but not two, both deluded and enlightened: we are the true Buddha.

Myoho-Renge is always pure and true, never off the mark from beginning to end. This is why we don't worship human beings or statues manifesting their visage or the aspect of their impermanence: we would not want to repeat their errors.

One of the errors that neither Shakyamuni nor Nichiren Daishonin are known for is the error of the kind of preening arrogance that would be in any way comfortable with being worshiped like a Hindu god, and certainly not as God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth in some traditionally deifying sense.

Shakyamuni and Nichiren Daishonin must suffer greatly at the slanders of sincere followers misled by the corrupted priests of Nichiren Shu and the Nikko sects as described at the top quote regarding statue worship of them: being hoisted up and placed in front of the Gohonzon.

According to the Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings: the Lotus Sutra in the Parable of the Phantom City chapter identifies the eternal Buddha (the Buddha of Limitless Joy, AKA the Buddha of Beginningless Time) as the grandfather of Shakyamuni, who as one of the sixteen princes, was the son of Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One, who was the son of "the grandfather".

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/ott/PART-1/7#para-15

>> The Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings says: IN
>> THIS PASSAGE WE LEARN ABOUT THE BUDDHA OF THE ORIGINAL
>> STATE [THAT IS, THE BUDDHA OF LIMITLESS JOY]. "GRANDFATHER"
>> IS ANOTHER NAME FOR THE DHARMA-REALM. The first three of
... the ten factors listed in the "Expedient Means" chapter,
... the factors of appearance, nature, and entity, are referred
... to as "grandfather." Outside of these three factors, there
... is no wheel-turning sage king.
...
... The word "wheel-turning" refers to the phases of birth,
... abiding, change, and extinction. The words "sage king"
... refer to the element of the mind. These three factors,
... appearance, nature, and entity, are the father and mother
... of all the Buddhas of the three existences of past,
... present, and future.
...
... Now, when Nichiren and his followers chant
... Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, they are acting as father and mother
... of the Buddhas of the three existences, as their
... grandfather, the wheel-turning sage king.

The followers of the 5 Senior Priests of Nichiren Shu consider the Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings to ALSO BE FAKED (because its view of Buddhism would disallow statue worship and funeral Buddhism), but once again, the Gosho in many places AND THE CORE OF THE LOTUS SUTRA ITSELF, confirms this view.

That passage refers to this one, the one and only reference to "the grandfather", where his son, who is the father of 16th son Shakyamuni, Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, attains enlightenment when "the Law of the buddhas finally appeared before him". This from the mouth of Shakyamuni Buddha, himself:

The Parable of the Phantom City, LS-7, pp 156-157:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/7#para-35

... "Now, monks, THE BUDDHA GREAT UNIVERSAL WISDOM EXCELLENCE
... PASSED TEN SMALL KALPAS BEFORE THE LAW OF THE BUDDHAS
... FINALLY APPEARED BEFORE HIM AND HE ATTAINED SUPREME
... PERFECT ENLIGHTENMENT. Before this buddha left the
... householder's life, he had sixteen sons, the first of whom
... was named Wisdom Accumulated. These sons each had various
... kinds of rare objects and toys of one kind or another, but
... when they heard that their father had attained supreme
... perfect enlightenment, they all threw aside their rare
... objects and went to where the buddha was. Their mothers,
... weeping, followed after them.
...
... "Their grandfather, who was a wheel-turning sage king,
... along with a hundred chief ministers, as well as a
... hundred, thousand, ten thousand, million of his subjects,
... all together surrounded the sons and followed them to the
... place of enlightenment, all wishing to draw close to the
... thus come one Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, to offer
... alms, pay honor, venerate, and praise him. When they
... arrived, they bowed before his feet, touching their heads
... to the ground.

Since the "grandfather" was the father of the Buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, who was the father of the 16th son who later became Shakyamuni Buddha, and because the Buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence attained enlightenment prior to Shakyamuni, this is evidence from the one and only earliest timeline from the Lotus Sutra, that Shakyamuni Buddha was NOT the name of the Buddha of the original state.

In fact, anyone attaining enlightenment on any timeline for the first time cannot be named as the Buddha of the original state, who is enlightened from beginningless time, which is off the end of every timeline and not actually part of any history.

The "grandfather" is anonymous in the Lotus Sutra. The "grandfather" has no time associated with his enlightenment, or assignment of any progenitor and Nichiren Daishonin assigns him as primogenitor in that passage from the Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings, as the first: the "Buddha of the original state."

Aside from that, who knows, I don't. As far as I can tell, the eternal Buddha has no other person identified as such in the Lotus Sutra. Shakyamuni attained enlightenment after his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence and unnamed grandfather with no date for his attainment of the enlightenment.

At any rate, who was first hardly matters, unless you want to worship a statue or image of the first enlightened one. I certainly don't want to worship or pray to any statues of anyone.

I am satisfied that the Buddha leading the army of the Bodhisattvas of the Earth is Nichiren Daishonin, also known as Jogyo Superior Practices. He is the mentor whose Gosho I have made my mentor, because our general, Ikeda Sensei asked me too. I practice as Nichiren Daishonin says and only that way. I worship no person and images of any person.

Continuing, another challenge from a follower of the Nichiren Shu icchantikas/issendai:

||| You, Chas, claim to be practicing Nichiren's teachings- do
||| you not? Then please explain why you cannot believe
||| thousands of passages written in Nichiren's own hand, such
||| as:
|||
||| "Now, when the Eternal Buddha has revealed in the essential
||| section of the Lotus Sutra, this world of endurance
||| (Saha-world) became the Eternal Pure Land, indestructible
||| even by the three calamities of conflagration, flooding,
||| and strong winds, which are said to destroy the world. It
||| transcends the four periods of cosmic change: the kalpa of
||| construction, continuance, destruction and emptiness.
||| Sakaymuni Buddha, the Lord-preacher of this pure and, has
||| never died in the past, nor will He be born in the future.
||| He exists forever throughout the past present and future.
||| All those who receive His GUIDANCE are one with the Eternal
||| Buddha." - Nichiren, "The True Object of Worship".
|||
||| Now, you are interpreting the Lotus Sutra- in an effort to
||| support your SGIkeda's claim that Nichiren, not Shakyamuni
||| is the True, Original Buddha!! By doing this you are also
||| dismissing Nichiren's own statements referencing his
||| identity as the Buddha's envoy, the only one who can
||| understand the "entity of the Lotus"--So, YOU, Chas claim
||| to be --what? the envoy of the Buddha you have demoted?? Or
||| are you just a parrot for SGIkeda's lies??
|||
||| To summarize, I practice Nichiren's Lotus Sutra Buddhism. I
||| regard Nichiren as the ONE teacher for this latter age. I
||| believe the words Nichiren has used to describe himself,
||| Shakyamuni Buddha and the Lotus Sutra--Since, you, Chas do
||| not produce evidence for your assertions from Nichiren's
||| own hand, you are not qualified to call yourself a follower
||| of Nichiren-- in fact, you have clearly shown yourself to
||| be a follower of Ikeda, whose errors have been exposed here
||| and elsewhere , whilst your Top leaders refuse to engage in
||| public debate to settle the matters you continue to parrot
||| here!!

This is yet another bad translation of the Gosho, by corrupted statue-worshiping priests of Nichiren Shu. Note the absence of the term "Eternal Buddha" in the correct translation below, that phrase having been doctored by Nichiren Shu slandering priests in their corrupted translation.

Shakyamuni was of course manifesting Myoho-Renge, his true self and at the highest condition of human existence when he was preaching the Juryo chapter.

But his name was Shakyamuni, not Myoho-Renge, which is "the actual name of the entity" according to Nichiren Daishonin.

From "The Object of Devotion for Observing the Mind Established in the Fifth Five-Hundred-Year Period after the Thus Come One's Passing -Nichiren, the shramana of Japan", WND I, p. 366 ... once again, noting the total absence of calling Shakyamuni the "eternal Buddha":
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/39#para-70

... First, at his place of enlightenment, Shakyamuni Buddha
... [preached the Flower Garland Sutra in which he] revealed
... the Lotus Treasury World. In the following fifty years,
... until he entered nirvana in the grove of sal trees,
... Shakyamuni preached about the lands of the various Buddhas,
... such as the Lotus Treasury World and the Land of Secret
... Solemnity [in the Secret Solemnity Sutra], revealed the
... three kinds of lands when he three times purified countless
... lands [in the theoretical teaching of the Lotus Sutra], and
... revealed the four kinds of lands according to the four
... different views [in the Nirvana Sutra]. These lands—the
... Land of Transition, the Land of Actual Reward, and the Land
... of Tranquil Light; the Land of Peace and Sustenance, the
... Pure Emerald World, the Land of Secret Solemnity, and the
... lands of all the other Buddhas—are transient lands that
... change in the course of the kalpas of formation,
... [continuance, decline, and disintegration]. The Buddhas of
... these lands had been magically conjured by Shakyamuni
... Buddha, and when the lord of teachings entered nirvana, all
... these Buddhas likewise entered extinction. In the same way,
... their lands also vanished.
...
... The sahā world Shakyamuni Buddha revealed in the "Life
... Span" chapter is the eternal pure land, impervious to the
... three calamities and to the cycle of the four kalpas. The
... Buddha neither has entered into extinction in the past nor
... will be born in the future. And the same is true of his
... disciples. This means that their lives are perfectly
... endowed with the three thousand worlds, that is, with the
... three realms of existence. The Buddha did not reveal this
... truth in the theoretical teaching, or the first fourteen
... chapters, of the Lotus Sutra because the time was not right
... and the people's capacity was not yet developed.
...
... Shakyamuni Buddha did not transmit the five characters of
... Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, the heart of the essential teaching of
... the Lotus Sutra, even to the bodhisattvas Manjushrī and
... Medicine King, let alone to any lesser disciples. He
... summoned from beneath the earth the great bodhisattvas as
... numerous as the dust particles of a thousand worlds and, as
... he preached the eight chapters, transferred it solely to
... them.

Finally, a piece of logic related to time itself, and that logic is irrefutable.

Beginningless time is before any finite point in the past on the timeline, such as when Shakyamuni attained enlightenment. From the Lotus Sutra, chapter 16, starting with the critical phrase "Ga hon gyo bosatsu do":
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/16#para-14

... originally I practiced the bodhisattva way,
... and the life span that I acquired then has
... yet to come to an end but will last twice
... the number of years that have already passed.

A finite time in the past, which is half the time of a future point, can not possibly be the locus known as "beginningless time", which is off the timeline. The eternal Buddha's enlightened life crosses before, during and after every point on the timeline, which is why the adjective "eternal" is applied.

Shakyamuni, in his complete honesty, declared that he attained enlightenment under another Buddha and implicitly therefore that Shakyamuni is not the name of the eternal Buddha, as the Nichiren Shu and it's plausibly deniable legion of SGI attackers erroneously believe. You cannot deny what the Lotus Sutra says, Shakyamuni is not the name of the eternal Buddha, anymore than anyone's impermanent name is. That name is Myoho-Renge.


________ Slanders of the common mortal ___________
________ as the true Buddha ______________________

Let's revisit that ARBN quote from the follower of the Nichiren Shu traitorous founders, the Five Senior Priests who converted Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Buddhism into a syncretic Shinto statue-worshiping of Shakyamuni as God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth:

||| I have considered the recipients of Nichiren's writings to
||| be a key factor, or rather, an important element regarding
||| the *meaning* conveyed. Nichiren wrote about the Gohonzon
||| to disciples and lay followers whom he had taught for
||| almost two decades; all of whom grasped the doctrines
||| Nichiren himself established for propagating
||| Myoho-renge-kyo in this latter age.
|||
||| Do you, Chas, accept and believe the preceding 18 years of
||| Nichiren's teachings , written to these disciples and lay
||| followers? In those writings I find and provide passages
||| here, to establish that Nichiren himself taught the primacy
||| of the daimoku as " a complete explanation" of the Lotus
||| Sutra, and Shakyamuni as the true, eternal Buddha. Since
||| you have dismissed the basic understanding ALL recipients
||| of Nichiren's writings most certainly had, how can you make
||| any determinations about the *meaning* expressed in the
||| Gosho?

There are many pillars upholding the difference of Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism of the Lotus Sutra from all other Buddhisms, which are then clearly distortions of the Buddha's teachings and intent.

It's also abundantly true that all of Nichiren Daishonin's pillars stand together in perfect logical harmony, without the tiniest weak point in the structure. All of the deviant variants of Buddhism are like horrid collapsing lopsided structures in comparison. They are tents and hastily erected shacks that do not survive even the slight breeze. Let's start with the notion of manifesting Buddhahood in an instant:

From "Wu-lung and I-lung", WND I, p. 1099 (most relevant part highlighted):

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/162#para-1

... Myoho-renge-kyo is likened to the lotus. The great māndāra
... flower in heaven and the cherry blossom in the human world
... are both celebrated flowers, but the Buddha chose neither
... to compare to the Lotus Sutra. Of all the flowers, he
... selected the lotus blossom to symbolize the Lotus Sutra.
... There is a reason for this. Some plants first flower and
... then produce fruit, while in others fruit comes forth
... before flowers. Some bear only one flower but much fruit,
... others send forth many flowers but only one fruit, and
>> still others produce fruit without flowering. THUS THERE
>> ARE ALL MANNER OF PLANTS, BUT THE LOTUS IS THE ONLY ONE
>> THAT BEARS FLOWERS AND FRUIT SIMULTANEOUSLY. THE BENEFIT OF
>> ALL THE OTHER SUTRAS IS UNCERTAIN, BECAUSE THEY TEACH THAT
>> ONE MUST FIRST MAKE GOOD CAUSES AND ONLY THEN CAN ONE
>> BECOME A BUDDHA AT SOME LATER TIME. WITH REGARD TO THE
>> LOTUS SUTRA, WHEN ONE'S HAND TAKES IT UP, THAT HAND
>> IMMEDIATELY ATTAINS BUDDHAHOOD, AND WHEN ONE'S MOUTH CHANTS
>> IT, THAT MOUTH IS ITSELF A BUDDHA, AS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
>> MOON IS REFLECTED IN THE WATER THE MOMENT IT APPEARS FROM
>> BEHIND THE EASTERN MOUNTAINS, OR AS A SOUND AND ITS ECHO
>> ARISE SIMULTANEOUSLY. IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT THE SUTRA
>> STATES, "IF THERE ARE THOSE WHO HEAR THE LAW, THEN NOT A
>> ONE WILL FAIL TO ATTAIN BUDDHAHOOD." THIS PASSAGE MEANS
>> THAT, IF THERE ARE A HUNDRED OR A THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO
>> UPHOLD THIS SUTRA, WITHOUT A SINGLE EXCEPTION ALL ONE
>> HUNDRED OR ONE THOUSAND OF THEM WILL BECOME BUDDHAS.

The piece to focus on here is:

"The benefit of all the other sutras is uncertain, because they teach that one must first make good causes and only then can one become a Buddha at some later time. With regard to the Lotus Sutra, when one's hand takes it up, that hand immediately attains Buddhahood, and when one's mouth chants it, that mouth is itself a Buddha"

The only conceivable way that one can attain Buddhahood simultaneously with chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, is if one is already a Buddha, and one only needs to chant the daimoku to manifest that pre-existing and inherited Buddhahood.

As argued clearly in the previous 2nd section on slanders of the true aspect of all phenomena, (1.) the common mortal is the true Buddha and provisional Buddhas are a function of the true Buddha (common mortal), and (2.) all phenomena are the true aspect AND Myoho-Renge-Kyo, precisely because the true aspect means without having the aspect of any specific or particular entity, but is inclusive of all entities.

The view that the provisional Buddhas who appear to save we common mortals are THE Buddha, and that we ARE NOT, is a slander of the Lotus Sutra in the Latter Day of the Law and it arises from confusing inconspicuous benefit with enlightenment.

Here is Nichiren Daishonin's explanation of the differences in the teachings, and which view the Lotus Sutra takes.

From "The Unanimous Declaration by the Buddhas", WND II, p. 859:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/315#para-185

>> WHEN ONE TURNS TO THE PERFECT TEACHING, however, and sees
... that all phenomena are perfectly fused together, full and
... perfect like the moon on the fifteenth night of the month,
... free of all insufficiency, and when one understands them to
>> the fullest, THEN THERE IS NO MORE JUDGING THEM AS GOOD OR
>> BAD, NO MORE CHOOSING ON THE BASIS OF WHAT IS TIMELY, NO
>> MORE NEED TO SEEK OUT A QUIET SETTING, NO MORE QUESTION OF
>> WHICH PERSONS ARE ELIGIBLE. When one understands that all
... phenomena whatsoever are manifestations of the Buddhist
... Law, then one has fully comprehended the nature of the
... things of the phenomenal realm. Then even if one follows a
... path that is not the way, one will still be fulfilling
... the Buddha way.
...
>> HEAVEN, EARTH, WATER, FIRE, AND WIND ARE THE FIVE WISDOM
>> THUS COME ONES. THEY RESIDE WITHIN THE BODY AND MIND OF ALL
>> LIVING BEINGS AND ARE NEVER SEPARATED FROM THEM EVEN FOR AN
>> INSTANT. THEREFORE WORLDLY AFFAIRS AND AFFAIRS RELATING TO
>> ENLIGHTENMENT BLEND TOGETHER IN HARMONY WITHIN THE MIND OF
>> THE INDIVIDUAL; OUTSIDE OF THE MIND, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO
>> OTHER THING THAT EXISTS. THEREFORE, WHEN ONE HEARS THIS
>> TRUTH, ONE CAN AT THAT POINT IMMEDIATELY ATTAIN THE GOAL OF
>> BUDDHAHOOD WITHOUT A MOMENT'S DELAY, FOR IT IS A PRINCIPLE
>> OF THE UTMOST PROFUNDITY.

To confuse inconspicuous benefit with enlightenment is a slander of the Lotus Sutra, and will cause one to fall into the evil paths.

Inconspicuous benefit grows slowly as one practices, like a great tree.

Being the true Buddha is the heritage of the Law, received from your parents at birth in the form of the three bodies of the Buddha, establishing your true identity as Myoho-Renge, the Entity of the Mystic Law.

You have always been and will always be the true Buddha: to be a living being is to be the true Buddha.

What in heaven's name is so difficult to understand about the common mortal being the true Buddha? It has nothing at all to do with the "original enlightenment" of corrupted Tendai traitors, who just want to sit on their ass and do nothing.

SGI members accept that the enlightenment they attain upon chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo to the Gohonzon means that they have to walk that talk: the characteristics of a Buddha are the characteristics of a Bodhisattva bent on doing Kosen Rufu. Law -> Wisdom -> Action, and the action of shakubuku speaks the loudest: shakubuku manifests your Buddhahood most clearly.

All living beings are Buddhas, endowed with the three Bodies of the Buddha received from their parents.

From "On the Treasure Tower," WND I, pp. 299-300:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/31#para-3
.. YOU, YOURSELF, ARE A THUS COME ONE WHO IS ORIGINALLY
.. ENLIGHTENED AND ENDOWED WITH THE THREE BODIES. You should
.. chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo with this conviction. Then the
.. place where you chant daimoku will become the dwelling
.. place of the treasure tower.

He says it plainly right there: "You, yourself, ARE A THUS COME ONE WHO IS ORIGINALLY ENLIGHTENED AND ENDOWED WITH THE THREE BODIES." Nichiren Daishonin is not just being a cheerleader for Abutsu-bo here, he really means it.

From "Conversation between a Sage and an Unenlightened Man," WND I, p. 131:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/13#para-202
.. THE BUDDHA NATURE THAT ALL THESE BEINGS POSSESS IS CALLED
.. BY THE NAME MYOHO-RENGE-KYO. THEREFORE, IF YOU RECITE THESE
.. WORDS OF THE DAIMOKU ONCE, THEN THE BUDDHA NATURE OF ALL
.. LIVING BEINGS WILL BE SUMMONED AND GATHER AROUND YOU. AT
.. THAT TIME THE THREE BODIES OF THE DHARMA NATURE WITHIN
.. YOU—THE DHARMA BODY, THE REWARD BODY, AND THE MANIFESTED
.. BODY—WILL BE DRAWN FORTH AND BECOME MANIFEST. THIS IS
.. CALLED ATTAINING BUDDHAHOOD. To illustrate, when a caged
.. bird sings, the many birds flying in the sky all gather
.. around it at once; seeing this, the bird in the cage
.. strives to get out.”

And there he says it again, very clearly, no interpretation required. "... if you recite the words of the daimoku once ... This is called attaining Buddhahood."

From "The Unanimous Declaration by the Buddhas of the Three Existences regarding the Classification of the Teachings and Which Are to Be Abandoned and Which Upheld," WND II, pp. 847-848:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/315#para-105
.. THE SENTIENT BEINGS AND THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE TEN WORLDS
.. ARE THE BUDDHA OF THE DHARMA BODY, ONE WHO POSSESSES THE
.. VIRTUE OF THE THREE BODIES IN A SINGLE ENTITY. Once one has
.. understood this, one will fully realize that all phenomena
.. are the Buddhist Law. This is known as the stage of hearing
.. the name and words of the truth. FROM THE STAGE OF HEARING
.. THE NAME AND WORDS OF THE TRUTH ONE PROCEEDS DIRECTLY TO
.. THE ATTAINMENT OF BUDDHAHOOD IN ONE’S PRESENT FORM. Thus
.. in the teaching of perfect and immediate enlightenment
.. there are no successive stages of practice.

Note the phrase: "From the stage of HEARING THE NAME AND WORDS OF THE TRUTH one proceeds directly to the ATTAINMENT OF BUDDHAHOOD IN ONE’S PRESENT FORM."

From hearing the daimoku -> directly to attaining Buddhahood.

Then he says: "Thus in the teaching of perfect and immediate enlightenment THERE ARE NO SUCCESSIVE STAGES OF PRACTICE."

Thus, there are no extra practices needed to attain Buddhahood.

Enlightenment or Buddhahood is attained by hearing or chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for the very first time. In that moment you are a participant in the ceremony in the air.

From "The Entity of the Mystic Law," WND I, p. 429:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-89

.. Therefore, we understand that, once the “Life Span”
.. chapter of the essential teaching had been revealed, ALL
.. THOSE IN THE ASSEMBLY ON EAGLE PEAK BECAME ENLIGHTENED TO
.. THE LOTUS OF THE ENTITY. Those of the two vehicles, the
.. icchantikas, or persons of incorrigible disbelief, and
.. the determinate groups, as well as women and evil men,
.. ALL GAINED AN AWAKENING TO THE LOTUS OF THE ETERNAL BUDDHA.

All living beings are Buddhas, and they all attain Buddhahood/enlightenment in the ceremony in the air, which you participate in, upon any contact with the daimoku of the Lotus Sutra.

From "Conversation between a Sage and an Unenlightened Man," WND I, p. 133:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/13#para-217

.. “It is the same way with the practitioners of the Lotus
.. Sutra. THOUGH THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLES OF
.. BUDDHISM AND MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM
.. DELUSION, IF ONLY THEY HAVE FAITH, THEN WITHOUT A DOUBT
.. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FREE THEMSELVES simultaneously from
.. the illnesses of the three categories of illusion—illusions
.. of thought and desire, illusions innumerable as particles
.. of dust and sand, and illusions about the true nature of
.. existence. THEY WILL REACH THE LANDS OF ACTUAL REWARD AND
.. TRANQUIL LIGHT, AND CAUSE THE THREE BODIES OF A THUS COME
.. ONE THAT THEY INHERENTLY POSSESS TO SHINE.

In Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism, Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo IS EQUAL TO FAITH, chanting it and even hearing it is attaining enlightenment and manifesting your inherent Buddhahood.

From "The Teaching, Practice, and Proof," WND I, p. 470:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/57#para-20
.. People may well wonder what this revelation means. Explain
.. that it teaches that COMMON PEOPLE LIKE OURSELVES, who have
.. been submerged in the sufferings of birth and death since
.. time without beginning and who never so much as dreamed of
.. reaching the shore of enlightenment, BECOME THE THUS COME
.. ONES WHO ARE ORIGINALLY ENLIGHTENED AND ENDOWED WITH THE
.. THREE BODIES.

And that means through the revelation (hearing the daimoku, chanting it) of the Lotus Sutra itself, we common people become the Thus Come Ones (plural,) not through some Bodhisattva path. We perform as Bodhisattvas, BECAUSE WE HAVE ATTAINED BUDDHAHOOD THROUGH CHANTING NAM_MYOHO_RENGE_KYO TO THE GOHONZON.

From "The One Essential Phrase," WND I, p. 922:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/121#para-1
.. SINCE THE LOTUS SUTRA DEFINES OUR BODY AS THE DHARMA BODY
.. OF A THUS COME ONE, OUR MIND AS THE REWARD BODY OF A THUS
.. COME ONE, AND OUR ACTIONS AS THE MANIFESTED BODY OF A THUS
.. COME ONE, ALL WHO UPHOLD AND BELIEVE IN EVEN A SINGLE
.. PHRASE OR VERSE OF THIS SUTRA WILL BE ENDOWED WITH THE
.. BENEFITS OF THESE THREE BODIES. Nam-myoho-renge-kyo is only
.. one phrase or verse, but it is no ordinary phrase, for it
.. is the essence of the entire sutra. YOU ASKED WHETHER ONE
.. CAN ATTAIN BUDDHAHOOD ONLY BY CHANTING NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO,
.. AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF ALL. THIS IS THE
.. HEART OF THE ENTIRE SUTRA AND THE SUBSTANCE OF ITS EIGHT
.. VOLUMES.

Just by chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, we can attain Buddhahood. He doesn't say how long we have to chant, because it happens immediately.

From "The Entity of the Mystic Law," WND I, p. 420:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-29
.. IN ESSENCE, THE ENTITY OF MYOHO-RENGE-KYO IS THE PHYSICAL
.. BODY THAT THE DISCIPLES AND FOLLOWERS OF NICHIREN WHO
.. BELIEVE IN THE LOTUS SUTRA RECEIVED FROM THEIR FATHERS AND
.. MOTHERS AT BIRTH. Such persons, WHO HONESTLY DISCARD
.. EXPEDIENT MEANS, PUT FAITH IN THE LOTUS SUTRA ALONE, AND
.. CHANT NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO, WILL TRANSFORM THE THREE PATHS
.. OF EARTHLY DESIRES, KARMA, AND SUFFERING INTO THE THREE
.. VIRTUES OF THE DHARMA BODY, WISDOM, AND EMANCIPATION. The
.. threefold contemplation and the three truths will
.. immediately become manifest in their minds, and the place
.. where they live will become the Land of Eternally Tranquil
.. Light. The Buddha who is the entity of Myoho-renge-kyo, of
.. the “Life Span” chapter of the essential teaching, who is
.. both inhabiting subject and inhabited realm, life and
.. environment, body and mind, entity and function, THE BUDDHA
.. ETERNALLY ENDOWED WITH THE THREE BODIES—HE IS TO BE FOUND
.. IN THE DISCIPLES AND LAY BELIEVERS OF NICHIREN.

Notice the qualifying phrase:

"Such persons, WHO HONESTLY DISCARD EXPEDIENT MEANS, put faith in the Lotus Sutra alone, and chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, will transform the three paths of earthly desires, karma, and suffering into the three virtues of the Dharma body, wisdom, and emancipation."

You have to "honestly discard expediant means" to gain the benefits of the three bodies: you can't worship statues, practice the four dictums (Zen, Nembutsu, Tantric/True Word, Shakyamuni's provisional precepts), join with Shinto, or chant to pirated printouts of Gohonzon stolen by traitorous, thieving, murderous priests of Nichiren Shu, who betrayed Nichiren Daishonin by distorting his Buddhism into a statue-worshiping Shinto cult forcing Shakyamuni into the role of God Almighty, which he would have rejected as utterly narcissistic. That slander of complicity cancels your benefits of the three bodies.

From "The Doctrine of Three Thousand Realms in a Single Moment of Life," WND II, p. 87:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/180#para-43
.. THIS MYOHO-RENGE-KYO IS A TERM DESIGNATING THE ESSENTIAL
.. NATURE OF OUR MINDS, OR, MORE GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE
.. ESSENTIAL NATURE OF THE MINDS OF ALL LIVING BEINGS, THE
.. EIGHT-PETALED WHITE LOTUS BLOSSOM. THE WORDS OF THE BUDDHA
.. HIMSELF TEACH US THIS. From time without beginning until
.. the present, these bodies of ours have transmigrated
.. through the realm of birth and death, in a state of
.. delusion as to the essential nature of the mind that is
.. within these bodies. BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED THE
.. LOTUS SUTRA AND CHANT THE DAIMOKU THAT REPRESENTS THE THUS
.. COME ONE OF ORIGINAL ENLIGHTENMENT, WHO POSSESSES THE THREE
.. BODIES IN A SINGLE BODY, THE THUS COME ONE BECOMES
.. MANIFEST. In our present existence we achieve the inner
.. realization and attainment of Buddhahood that is known as
.. the attainment of Buddhahood in our present form.

Once again, he states it clearly and without any amount of chanting or time passage: our Buddhahood "becomes manifest" at the point when we "have encountered the Lotus Sutra and chanted the daimoku."

You have always been and will always be the true Buddha: to be a living being is to be the true Buddha.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

I just asked you to provide your own info regarding coherence of your Gosho passage , in terms of what you consider the teaching you are gleaning from it. The task for you is to explain how what you are quoting supports or is supported by the 10 Major writings. I am also asking you to explain the relevance of what you are calling a " teaching " from the Gosho with a thousand plus passages identifying Shakyamuni as the true Buddha and the relevance of your proffered teaching " to Nichiren's documentation of his life as Shakyamuni's disciple , the foremost votary of the Lotus Sutra.

Can you validate the passages you quoted in proper context ? Or is this an " odd duck" passage ?

~Katie

[Chas.]

There were 14 different Gosho quotes just in that last section (which obviously you didn't read,) were they all "odd duck" or faked passages? I believe the point you are driving home is that the Gosho is faked, from Nichiren Daishonin, who is a fake. And that only statues of Shakyamuni the Hindu/Shinto Almighty God replacing Brahma/Vishnu, are to be trusted, and we must subjugate ourselves in complete prostration to your new God, like a Catholic monk or nun.

You are a lying distorter of Buddhism, Katie Higgins.

-Chas.

[Chas.]

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 9:32:46 PM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> I just asked you to provide your own info regarding coherence of your Gosho passage , in terms of what you consider the teaching you are gleaning from it. The task for you is to explain how what you are quoting supports or is supported by the 10 Major writings. I am also asking you to explain the relevance of what you are calling a " teaching " from the Gosho with a thousand plus passages identifying Shakyamuni as the true Buddha and the relevance of your proffered teaching " to Nichiren's documentation of his life as Shakyamuni's disciple , the foremost votary of the Lotus Sutra.
>
> Can you validate the passages you quoted in proper context ? Or is this an " odd duck" passage ?
>
> ~Katie

There were 14 different Gosho quotes just in that last section (which obviously you didn't read,)

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/1fUX4H4ZIaw/a2EK_wb_CAAJ

[Katie Higgins]

My point is that you are parroting --

Of course you want to continue your " dueling Gosho passage " style of debate , there's no accountability and no real effort involved in your decades long spam fest !

The astute reader can appreciate your lack of knowledge and that your diatribe is not a replacement for the skill you lack.

Though you discount the importance of correct translation , through your admitted lack of resources for validating what you claim to believe , it is just as important as demonstrating cohesion between what you claim are Nichiren's words /teachings and the 10 major writings.

Fortunately , the confusion is a sectarian creation / meaning that the astute reader can rest assured that the true teachings themselves are not lost.

Parrots may attract an audience , but entertainment is not teaching - it is pretty clear that you aren't retaining the interest and participation of serious minded Buddhists here.-- pretty much the same as the SGI losing its " charm" 😁

~ Katie

[Chas.]

That is illogical, like most of your statements, on its face. Two parrots would parrot nothing, one has to be a speaker and the other to parrot what he says. This is in fact incorrect in this case, but I wanted to lay bare your lack of proper logical thinking, and in this case, even counting.

So far, you have cast aspersions upon all the Gosho and much of the Lotus Sutra that says things you don't agree with, and you are unwilling to focus your slander of both in any way shape or form.

The exception is that you have identified (1) the Gosho letter "The True Aspect of All Phenomena," and (2) "The Record of Orally Transmitted Teachings" or Ongi Kuden as entirely faked, yes? Am I correctly recording your views for posterity?

If so, then if you do NOT identify further Gosho letters and writings as faked, I can freely assume that they are all legit, from your point of view, yes?

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

AGAIN!! Chas took the time to copy and paste another example of his not being capable of admitting he is too lazy and stupid to defend his views with verifiable evidence that was not spoon fed him by the Gakkai!

Two parrots repeating what they have heard, Chas-- Parrots, not scholars who can produce evidence to support their views using methods anyone can duplicate!

Squawk! squawk!

~Katie

[Noel]

Most of this is very good except for this bit "chant to pirated printouts of Gohonzon that cancels your benefits of the three bodies"

[Katie Higgins]

If you did some work on your own in terms of substantiating what you claim about "disciples = Buddha's-fully endowed "etc . That is , correlating this passage with 10 major writings AND noting the multiple concise detailed descriptions and FOCUS on Shakyamuni , the true, original, eternal Buddha ; IF you yourself engage in the effort , you will see the problem with your interpretation here -- then, if you are naturally curious , take the next step and you will discover other factors that dispute what you have stated --- including that you say, it is me and Mark, NOT Nichiren , who is focusing on Shakyamuni , the Treasure of the Buddha, the doctrine upon which Nichiren's teachings are based.

"Buddha Body Viiews in Tendai Hongaku Writings", R, Habito - a good "scholarly " article
that directly addresses your misconceptions .

It is not been productive to debate lists of disputed Gosho - when one is familiar with the process and acquainted with credible resources , the potential for understanding both the process for authenticating Nichiren's teachings AND the reason this is an issue become self evident. I am not going to "duel" with you and Chas as you defend what you believe without even knowing how to verify that it is actually Nichiren's writing/teaching . In other words , if you are not willing to do the work , fruitful debate is a moot point.

~Katie

[Noel]

Still you come up with no meat on the bone. Nichiren's outlook of Shakyamuni are poles apart from you and Mark

[Katie Higgins]

Mark and I quote Nichiren - Mark has listed hundreds of passages of Nichiren's "impression of Shakyamuni "- I recall during my first year practicing - which began 29 years ago today ,my questions were based on my first reading of the English translations published by NSA- I never got a straight answer from leaders - same here -
Most of your " core beliefs " are NOT Supported by Nichiren's writings and are in fact , in direct contradiction to them .

~Katie

[Noel]

I await the coming out of you and Mark so we can discuss the great principles of Nichiren Buddhism

“A frog in a well cannot discuss the ocean because s/he is limited by the size of his well. A summer insect cannot discuss ice because it knows only its own season. A narrow-minded scholar cannot discuss the Tao because he is constrained by his teachings.

Now you have come out of your banks and seen the Great Ocean. You now know your own inferiority, so it is now possible to discuss great principles with you.
井蛙不可以語於海者，拘於虛也；夏蟲不可以語於冰者，篤於時也；曲士不可以語於道者，束於教也。今爾出於崖涘，觀於大海，乃知爾醜，爾將可與語大理矣。”


― Zhuangzi, The Way of Chuang Tzu

[Katie Higgins]

What you might want to focus on is substantial , verifiable evidence , or reasonable explanation for the claims you make , Noel - :

1) you said statements made by Mark and me , regarding impressions of Shakyamuni are opposite of Nichiren's - example please.

I have no idea what " coming out " refers to in the context of your analogy -

~Katie

[Noel]

A Paradighm shift can only be experienced not explained just like I can't tell you what Mangosteen tastes like even though I may give you many elaborate descriptions. You have to taste it for yourself.

Every thing that has been presented to you of Nichiren's teachings has fallen on deaf ears. Nothing sinks in as you are impervious to Nichirens reasoning in his writings that you label as fake. WE are still waiting on evidence to why you say Nichirens teachings are not valid. Can you specifically highlight the words that you find fault with or is beyond your capacity

[Katie Higgins]

What you are calling a " paradigm shift " is a rather drastic alteration of Nichiren's teachings .

You have made it clear you accept the Shoshu revisions and have no interest in researching the corruption ---

What I share here can ( and is) verified by those who do realize that the authority of high priests doesn't fit with Nichiren's core teachings.

Whatever it is you are " feeling " what you are preaching does not accord with the authenticated writings of Nichiren -/ you seem to be saying your " feelings " are superior to the true teachings !

In any case , you are definitely not capable of serious , legitimate debate -- and I am not trying to convince you of anything -- readers who are doing the research can also appreciate what attitudes fuel your sermons and your put downs !!

~Katie

[Noel]

Scholars agree to disagree on what authentic and whats not and you know next to nothing compared to those that are seriously involved. You use them to bolster your inadequacy of being unable to comprehend Gosho as it is written in your mother tongue.You fail to discuss Gosho at hand and give endless innuendos showing how shallow and inept you are. You have fooled no one but yourself

[Katie Higgins]

Noel, your characterization of scholars debating translation issues versus describing the context and the process for determining congruency and consistency amongst the Buddhist teachings themselves shows your ignorance on this crucial topic. The study of background, lineage and pertinent elements that define and delineate Nichiren's teachings are all necessary components of an educated opinion on " scholarly research versus sectarian teachings "

Seems like you just have a bent on discrediting the messenger . I doubt you have investigated the matter if the corruption of the teachings you preach here ! Any credible " teacher " will reserarch opposing arguments before claiming his/her "theories " are correct . If you were a student of Nichiren , you'd know how thoroughly he read , studied and wrote about the various " opinions " he completely refuted ! Here you are making broad sweeping general statements and claiming insight into the purpose of my study as though you have attained what clearly you have not.

You offer yet another prime example of a non- Buddhist attitude from a pseudo - intellectual posture --- You are grossly misleading others with no conscience !

The arbn " Boy Band" is in harmony on their eagerness to promote their abject stupidity !

~ Katie

[Chas.]

-So far, you have cast aspersions upon all the Gosho and much of the Lotus Sutra that says things you don't agree with, and you are unwilling to focus your slander of both in any way shape or form.

-The exception is that you have identified (1) the Gosho letter "The True Aspect of All Phenomena," and (2) "The Record of Orally Transmitted Teachings" or Ongi Kuden as entirely faked, yes? Am I correctly recording your views for posterity?

-If so, then if you do NOT identify further Gosho letters and writings as faked, I can freely assume that they are all legit, from your point of view, yes?

-Chas.

[Noel]

Just answer the questions Chas has asked you big mouth

[Katie Higgins]

So, Mr. Prosecuting attorney for the cult of personality SGI, that you represent, YOU continue to ask the wrong questions, with non-veiled agenda showing.

Do you want to know the classification of Gosho?

Go to : >>showa teihon nichiren shonin ibun << a very non-Japans/classical chinese speaking user-friendly site, that also guides the reader through dictionary references for correct translation and thereby does not limit translation to accepting any particular scholars notes!

I have received feedback from university students in the Boston area who have been using this site-- and just as Shinkei suggested, it is a formidable sourcing for direct information that bypasses ALL sectarian corruption of Nichiren's writings!!

I am not subject to answering the demands of a spamming SGI shill who is too lazy to research the veracity of the "stuff he believes" that has been attributed to licentious priests of the sect who WAS SGI's sponsor and is now SGI's arch enemy, NST.-- the attribution of the "bunk" Atty. Chas is defending was a slam dunk for Buddhist scholars and has been widely shared on consensus that; Shoshu/Gakkai teachings are based on Tnedai doctrine NOT Nichiren's doctrine.

Chas and Noel continue to freely assume that they are in a position to challenge those who claim their doctrines are based on a flawed corpus of disputed teachings, when in fact the position they should consider themselves in is more along the lines of demonstrating that they have the capability of establishing, according to acceptable standards, the authenticity of the "writings" they parade out at regular intervals to support their bunk. So far, they cannot do this, nor have they shown scholarship regarding the historical and cultural Tendai influences that Nichiren himself identified and refuted.

Chas and Noel persisting on their illogical, unreasonable cross examination course can be viewed as further evidence of "wrong headed-ness" that the Buddha declared would result from "taking poison drugs", which is analogous to accepting erroneous teachings!

~Katie

[Chas.]

No, Katie, you are the one disparaging ALL of the Gosho and the Lotus Sutra, smearing it all in this forum as faked, amended, badly translated, etc.

I am asking you for the rest of your disputed Gosho list, YOU WHO ARE MAKING THESE ARGUMENTS HERE.

Not those other corrupted people elsewhere.

Stop the passive aggressive dodging and go on the record, as you have with (1) the Gosho letter "The True Aspect of All Phenomena," and (2) "The Record of Orally Transmitted Teachings" or Ongi Kuden, which you have described as entirely faked.

Declare your list of "fakes," or be branded as a slanderer of all of Nichiren Daishonin's work as a plot to raise up Shakyamuni over the prostrate body of Nichiren Daishonin.

Subsequently, if you do NOT identify further Gosho letters and writings as faked, I can freely assume that they are all legit, from your point of view, yes?

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Not playing " I'm rubber you're glue" with a shill for the were ' all Buddhas ' club !!

You are lazy and arrogant in your complacency as one of the most ignorant trolls on arbn!

~ Katie

[Chas.]

THen I can freely assume that you consider the rest of the Gosho as non-fake. When you use the phrase "disputed Goshos" in the future, you will be called upon in each case to identify which ones you mean on the spot. If you refuse to answer in the case of specific Goshos, where there will be a small list, we will make assumptions based upon that list.

You will be called out in every single case when you and your Nichiren Shu puppeteers sling your mud on the Gosho.

[Katie Higgins]

Until you learn to read or translate with credible resources , the teachings themselves , I doubt any of your " confrontations " will be noteworthy -/ or status quo from an aging troll 😬

~Katie

[Chas.]

Unsubstantiated lies about the verity of the entire Gosho and the Lotus Sutra, slinging mud at the true teachings is a grave offense indeed, Katie Higgins.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Who did all that ?

Maybe your perceptions are tainted by the " woo" you practice ?

If you actually stood on solid ground with regard to your knowledge of Buddhism , you wouldn't need the hyperbole , Chas ---

And if you weren't threatened by what I have been sharing here you wouldn't be spamming your brains out !!

~ Katie

[Chas.]

When you describe ALL THE GOSHO indiscriminately as "disputed Goshos" and sutras without being forthcoming in recording your declaration of which specific Gosho letters or sutras you dispute?

That is what is known as "unsubstantiated lies about the verity of the entire Gosho and the Lotus Sutra, slinging mud at the true teachings" and that is "a grave offense indeed, Katie Higgins."

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Chas, your reasoning skills are on par with a pre-schooler-- and your zealotry veers off to watch hunt mode at the drop of a link that sends readers to credible sources of information !!

How absurd that you find expansive study of Buddhism grounded in the work of scholars a "grave offense "-- Typical brainwashed cult member mentality in full display!!

~Katie

[Chas.]

Katie, you are projecting again. It is not me, who abandoned Shakyamuni, I recognize the great debt I owe him personally for preaching the Lotus Sutra and going through the struggles associated with being the Lord of Teachings - of the one true teaching.

However, unlike yourself, I do not see that as any justification for deifying Shakyamuni and worshiping his statues as a Hindu/Shinto god above all the Buddhas, in fact as God Almighty, creator of heaven and earth.

Your projection comes from the fact that YOU HAVE ABANDONED NICHIREN DAISHONIN, have kicked him to the curb in the process of deifying Shakyamuni, you had no choice but to do that once you decided on deification of anyone.

You see, because I don't deify any one of the Buddhas over the others, I can love and venerate them all.

Nikko Shonin ("Hoki-bo", as he was called by his "Late Master") is the finest disciple anyone has ever had or will ever have. He embodies the Mentor and Disciple Principle. It is because of his example that I am even alive and thriving at this point.

I owe everything to Nichiren Daishonin, because of his great gift of Nikko Shonin to the world and of course, for Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, for the Gohonzon, for the Gosho, for Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Lotus Sutra Buddhism, and for being the great leader of the Bodhisattvas of the earth: Bodhisattva Jogyo/Superior Practices and the Buddha of the Latter Day of the Law: our fearless leader through the tangled thicket of the Saha World of mappō.

Those are all of the things that we could not receive from Shakyamuni Buddha, T'ien-T'ai and Dengyo, because that was not their mission (need I remind you all.)

Everyone's mission is different, we all play a part. It's just that some of our separate contributions create the cause for countless kalpas of Avichi Hell, and I would have you all avoid that, if possible.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

You cannot support your bunk , Chas - refutation of your intrepid horse hockey is in the public domain -

Get s grip , old boy -- cash in on your spamming troll retirement plan . Surely Aidin Strauss has you covered ? Why else appoint a non-member , salaried CFO as your " General Director" if not to assure your financial future ?

~Katie

[Chas.]

Readers will note that Mark Rogow and Katie smear along with what the KGB used to call the "useful idiots" Iain and now Noel and Ricky, while I quote the many history books to make my case against the un-indicted war criminals of Nichiren Shu, initiators and co-perpetrators of the Asian Holocaust against the peoples of the Pacific Rim and especially the Chinese people of Nanking.

These war criminals have never been brought to justice.

It is high time that they are hauled into court, because there is no statute of limitations on war crimes.

Justice for the victims of the Rape of Nanking and elsewhere, and prosecution of the war criminals of Nichiren Shu, whose radical militaristic followers and chaplains misled the Japanese people and the royalty into this abomination!

Their distortions of Nichiren Buddhism into Shinto statue worship is the cause, and that distortion continues to be perpetuated by Mark Rogow and Katie Higgins and their "useful idiot", Iain.

Their attacks on the SGI are merely a cover for their perpetual guilt over their complicity in war crimes while the founders of the SGI were cornered by Imperial Way Buddhism and their Shinto Talisman supporting the Pacifc War of Imperial State Zen. Mr. Makiguchi and Mr. Toda were ultimately imprisoned in Tokyo until Mr. Makiguchi's death and Mr. Toda's release at the end of the War, while the forces unleashed by Nichiren Shu (and with the complicity of the Nichiren Shoshu priesthood) ran rampant over China and the Pacific Rim.

here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

and here:

http://www.pacificwar.org.au/JapWarCrimes/Cross-section_JapWarCrimes.html

The Rape of Nanking (1937), also known as the Nanjing Massacre

The Bangka Island Massacre (1942): Slaughter of Australian Army Nurses

The Bataan Death March (1942)

The Sandakan Death March (1945)

Murder and cannibalism on the Kokoda Track (1942)

Conscripting women for sexual slavery in Japanese Army brothels (1937-1945)

Mutilation and murder of Dutch civilians in Borneo

Murder and cannibalism - captured American pilots

-Chas

[Katie Higgins]

Corruption of Nichiren's teachings , greedy , arrogant , intrusive, rude , ignorant leaders aren't reason enough to denounce the SGI?

Most SGI critics are very specific about their criticisms -- Chas had one generic non- response -
~ Katie

[Noel]

I am an SGI critic and I'm very specific with my criticisms that's why I say people like you who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, Katie. Why don't you take some time out and clean up your own back yard hypocrite

CAUTION

"Please ignore(Buku) Mark Rogow, Jerry Marcheso (Shinkei), Steave Polito (Stephen Paine) and Fred Wolff who are former believers of Kempon Hokke.

Although H. G. Lamont and Steve Polito asked Rev.Kubota for support, he was not able to use English. Therefore, I was asked to assist KHK from Rev. Kubota. After I had visited the USA, Steve started to quarrel with Lamont. Because Lamont said Steve was a paranoia, I advised to Steve. But he started to abuse me, too.

Therefore, I expounded the correct teachings of Kempon Hokke for people by using the website. Thereafter, Mark Rogow approached me and said that he hoped to re-establish Kempon Hokke USA.

However, Lamont criticized me and left Kempon Hokke, saying "You should not expound the doctrine for people widely. You should not invite former SGI believers."

Jerry Marcheso who was recommended by Mark hoped to become a priest of Kempon Hokke. Although I spend $2000 for him, he escaped the head temple after only two weeks. I told him that he could not become a priest if he didn't continue the practice at Myomanji.

However, Jerry and Mark started to abuse Kempon Hokke Shu and me as an evil priests. They tried to establish new Kempon Hokke USA as Jyumon Ryu, with Steve and Fred Wolff. However, thereafter, they started to quarrel again with each other. This is the unfortunate history of Kempon Hokke USA.

They, who have been believers of SGI and Nichren Sho-shu, claim that you need chant only Daimoku, and that you must not do other practices. Please read Nichiren's Gosho rightly.

Nichiren Shonin insists on the importance of chanting Daimoku, saying that the practice of Namu Myoho Renge kyo is the spirit of the single moment of understanding by faith and the stage of rejoicing, but doesn't deny other practices.

See Shishin Gohon-sho,

Within the “Variety of Merits” chapter are the four depths of faith and five stages of practice which reveal, as if reflected in a magic mirror, how to put the Lotus Sutra into practice during the Buddha’s lifetime or after His passing.

The first of the four depths of faith in the time when the sutra was taught is the single moment of understanding by faith and the first of five stages of practice after the Buddha’s passing away is the stage of rejoicing. Within these two can be found all 100 realms, 1,000 aspects, and 3,000 modes of existences as if in a treasure chest. They are the gate out of which all the Buddhas of all time and space emerge.

They have not attended any basic lecture of Kempon Hokke. They always speak ill of others and make a lot of troubles.

Because they don't have knowledge about the philosophy of Buddhism, they insist on wrong doctrines selfishly without having correct understanding to the Lotus Sutra and Nichiren's Gosho.

Now, they are trying to blame the priesthood of Kempon Hokke and establish own group, by using the name of Kempon Hokke or Jumon-ryu. They have been already excommunicated by Kempon Hokke.

Causing disunity in the community of Sangha is one of the five deadly sins of Buddhism. They have already caused a split with abusing each other.

etc: Massimo Claus(Myo Edizioni) is a scam artist who sell CDs of Kempon Hokke selfishly."

http://www.kempon.net/Membership.html?fref=gc

[Katie Higgins]

Which of your sources are personal acquaintances , Noel ?

You have a compelling need to dig up garbage and spread it around like you found something of value.

Too bad you aren't as dedicated when it comes to studying -actual writings of Nichiren and pertinent cultural history that influenced Nichiren's full on refutation of your Tendai doctrine -- the one that makes you think you are a " true Buddha"-

~ Katie

[Noel]

Face the facts Katie stop being a denier and projecting your inadequacies. Your over your head in garbage that you need to sort out

[Katie Higgins]

Curious as to what would embolden a totally ignorant person to make such brazen judgments ?

Hmmmm - could it be the delusion that you are inherently a "buddha"-- super natural powers ? Overinflated ego!

~Katie

[Chas.]

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:10:07 AM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> Seems that Chas and Noel cannot come to terms with the fact that Nichiren showed his reverence for Shakyamuni consistently and openly , naming his statue of the Buddha amongst his two most treasured possessions .
>
> So many people have turned against Nichiren's teachings because they believed the SGI and hobos like Noel -- There is nothing but strong evidence that at the root of the corruption of Nichiren's teachings lies a total disregard for the true Buddha , Shakyamuni .
>
> Noel and Chas dismiss the significance of the chapters of the Lotus Sutra Nichiren chose for daily recitation . Chas and Noel cannot produce a quote that supports their "view" that Nichiren is the original Buddha- or that he discarded any chapter of the Lotus Sutra -- They have a fabricated version of self indulgent "bunk" they call "Buddhism "---
>
> At least @cubby is open and honest about his/her "negative" views , while Chas and Noel keep trying to cloak theirs in pseudo- Buddhist rhetoric 🙀
>
> ~ Katie

Once again an outrageous lie is propelled from the mouth of Katie Higgins.

I have consistently revered Shakyamuni as the Lord of Teachings for preaching the Lotus Sutra, but since I refuse to bow down to statues elevating him to the status of God Almighty, creator of heaven and earth, somehow that is not good enough for your Nichiren Shu thieving traitors to Nichiren Daishonin. Nowhere in the Gosho does Nichiren Daishonin suggest that one should worship statues instead of the Gohonzon, which he calls the "supreme object of devotion in all of Jambudvipa."

Unlike the fools of Nichiren Shoshu, I do not declare that the Lotus Sutra be discarded, because Nichiren Daishonin points out why at the end of the "Four Bodhisattvas" Gosho on WND I, p. 978, read the whole page.

Unlike the fools of Nichiren Shoshu, I do not deify Nichiren Daishonin as God Almighty either, because he says in the entity of the Mystic Law Gosho, that the "actual name" of the entity is Myoho-Renge.

I point out again and again that it is you and your Nichiren Shu cronies who abuse Shakyamuni in deifying him to kick Nichiren Daishonin to the gutter, denying his status as the Buddha of the Latter Day of the Law. This ignores the fact of his great gift of Nikko Shonin to the world and of course, for Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, for the Gohonzon, for the Gosho, for Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Lotus Sutra Buddhism, and for being the great leader of the Bodhisattvas of the earth: Bodhisattva Jogyo/Superior Practices and the Buddha of the Latter Day of the Law: our fearless leader through the tangled thicket of the Saha World of mappō.

None of those things are done by Shakyamuni or anyone else, you ungrateful wretch.

You will pay a profoundly expensive price for your treachery and the lies that spew out of your open maw like a river of filth, Katie Higgins.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Whatever fear /intimidation you may be channelimg into your writing, is obscured by the insanity fueling your attachment to bogus teachings 😁

Somehow your threats of impending gloom and doom are only striking in their emptiness - this is how you translate your teachings into action ?

~Katie

[Chas.]

How can anyone trust a mouth that spouts lies so easily? You lie that I do not revere Shakyamuni, because I refuse to debase myself in front of false idols erected to deify him. Why in hell would I commit such a grave offense?

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

So-- when learning the basics of Nichiren's teachings starts with embracing the Lotus Sutra and reverence for Shakyamuni-- which is actually the starting pint for Nichiren's own faith and practice-- An entirely different Buddhist practice develops-- different from the authoritarian posturing and believer bashing you and your SGI cult are known for--

Your views on anything at this point are taken with a grain of salt -- mostly dismissed entirely since your weak and crumbling foundation has been exposed by YOU.

~Katie

[Chas.]

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> Assigning the True Buddha to the status of provisional " husk Buddha" is the polar opposite of reverence .
>

Hardly. Are you saying that somehow we are different?

He was born of a human mother as a human.

He had a y-chromosome, an x chromosome and 44 others, just like me.

He lived and died, as I have and will.

He was given the three bodies of the Buddha upon his birth from his parents, just like I was (dispute that and you dispute Nichiren Daishonin and call him a liar.)

There are no distinctions between Shakyamuni and myself: we are both votaries of the Lotus Sutra, although I am a Bodhisattva of the earth and follower of Nichiren Daishonin as Jogyo, and he appears not to be such.

Here, you see Nichiren Daishonin is in agreement: he is the embodiment of Bodhisattva Jogyo:

From "On the Receiving of the Three Great Secret Laws", WND II, p. 987:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/353#para-29

... These Three Great Secret Laws were unquestionably received
... by me, Nichiren, some two thousand and more years ago, when
... I was the leader of the Bodhisattvas of the Earth; they were
... passed on to me by oral transmission from the lord of
... teachings, the World-Honored One of Great Enlightenment. And
... these actions that I now take embody what I received in
... transmission on Eagle Peak, without the slightest deviation
... or alteration in form, the three great matters of the Law of
... the “Life Span” chapter.

What do you dispute from what I just said?

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

You didn't learn the basics from Nichiren-- simple as that Chas--

You are not equal to the Buddha or Nichiren. Period

~Katie

[Noel]

In structure and function as in ichinen sanzen, Chas is the same as Shakyamuni and Nichiren but his dominant life condition from what I've observed isn't always Buddhood it's fair to say and although Buddha-nature manifests temporarily throughout the other 9 worlds which is the case of the common mortal (delusion) and Buddha (enlightenment) the True Buddha 1 but 2, 2 but 1

You believe the individual Shakyamuni's enlightenment in which Buddhahood was his dominant life condition lasts forever. An event such as becoming enlightened that starts at a point in time will also have a finish at a point in time but the law to which Shakyamuni was enlightened to is not subject to time and space therefore eternally unchanging

Devadatta was a great sage in previous existences and was Shakyamuni's teacher. How times change in the eternal cycles of birth and death throughout the 3 existences. If you take the person Shakyamuni out of that equation and put him on the throne of God as you have done then you have created inequality the very thing that many of your fellow countrymen bravely fought against and laid down their lives for in the civil war

You are trying to rule like the Shakyamuni Frankenstein Monster that you have created in your own mind similar to those that take faith in Demon Gods of Monotheistic faiths

[Chas.]

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:26:52 AM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 11:14:41 AM UTC-4, Chas. wrote:
> > Here's one (of a multitude) you haven't answered:

> >
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> > > Assigning the True Buddha to the status of provisional " husk Buddha" is the polar opposite of reverence .
> > >
> >
> > Hardly. Are you saying that somehow we are different?
> >
> > He was born of a human mother as a human.
> >
> > He had a y-chromosome, an x chromosome and 44 others, just like me.
> >
> > He lived and died, as I have and will.
> >
> > He was given the three bodies of the Buddha upon his birth from his parents, just like I was (dispute that and you dispute Nichiren Daishonin and call him a liar.)
> >
> > There are no distinctions between Shakyamuni and myself: we are both votaries of the Lotus Sutra, although I am a Bodhisattva of the earth and follower of Nichiren Daishonin as Jogyo, and he appears not to be such.
> >
> > Here, you see Nichiren Daishonin is in agreement: he is the embodiment of Bodhisattva Jogyo:
> >
> > From "On the Receiving of the Three Great Secret Laws", WND II, p. 987:
> > http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/353#para-29
> >
> > ... These Three Great Secret Laws were unquestionably received
> > ... by me, Nichiren, some two thousand and more years ago, when
> > ... I was the leader of the Bodhisattvas of the Earth; they were
> > ... passed on to me by oral transmission from the lord of
> > ... teachings, the World-Honored One of Great Enlightenment. And
> > ... these actions that I now take embody what I received in
> > ... transmission on Eagle Peak, without the slightest deviation
> > ... or alteration in form, the three great matters of the Law of
> > ... the “Life Span” chapter.
> >
> > What do you dispute from what I just said?
> >
> > -Chas.
>

> You show that you did not learn the basics from Nichiren. I dispute everything you say--
>
> You aren't equal to the Buddha or Nichiren. You are an Ikeda-Bot-- member of the cult, SGI--
>
> ~Katie

Let's go through what you just disputed in your typical smearing style.

-> Here's one (of a multitude) you haven't answered:

-> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
-> Assigning the True Buddha to the status of provisional " husk Buddha" is the polar opposite of reverence .
->

-> Hardly. Are you saying that somehow we are different?

-> He was born of a human mother as a human.

Are you saying that Shakyamuni is not human? I'm quite certain he is one of us and not from an alien species.

-> He had a y-chromosome, an x chromosome and 44 others, just like me.

I am also quite certain of his genome, are you? You seem quite confused about the nature of this individual. He certainly was not a stone or plastic statue in front of a butsudan slandering the Gohonzon.

-> He lived and died, as I have and will.

Are you saying he didn't live and then die? There is a whole Nirvana Sutra on his last 24 hours. Are you saying I won't die, that maybe I'm eternal? I assure you I'm not.

-> He was given the three bodies of the Buddha upon his birth from his parents, just like I was (dispute that and you dispute Nichiren Daishonin and call him a liar.)

Nichiren Daishonin is quite clear on theis point in many, many Goshos. All living beings receive the three bodies of the Buddha from their parent couple, or by budding, their pre-sibling parent cell, for single-celled organisms.

-> There are no distinctions between Shakyamuni and myself: we are both votaries of the Lotus Sutra, although I am a Bodhisattva of the earth and follower of Nichiren Daishonin as Jogyo, and he appears not to be such.

The Buddha himself in his Lotus Sutra preaches that there will be no distinctions between the Buddha and his followers, and that the Lotus Sutra can only be shared or discussed between Buddhas. Are you disputing that?

-> Here, you see Nichiren Daishonin is in agreement: he is the embodiment of Bodhisattva Jogyo:

-> From "On the Receiving of the Three Great Secret Laws", WND II, p. 987:

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/353#para-29

.. These Three Great Secret Laws were unquestionably received
.. by me, Nichiren, some two thousand and more years ago, when
.. I was the leader of the Bodhisattvas of the Earth; they were
.. passed on to me by oral transmission from the lord of
.. teachings, the World-Honored One of Great Enlightenment. And
.. these actions that I now take embody what I received in
.. transmission on Eagle Peak, without the slightest deviation
.. or alteration in form, the three great matters of the Law of

.. the “Life Span” chapter.

Are you calling Nichiren Daishonin a liar? He states quite clearly that he is Bodhisattva Jogyo/Superior Practices, and I can guarantee that is the truth.

Are you calling Nichiren Daishonin a liar?

-> What do you dispute from what I just said?

I think it is far more likely that you, Katie Higgins, are the outrageous lying traitor here.

-> Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

You have grossly misinterpreted my beliefs and misunderstood the teachings upon which I have developed my faith --/ but then you don't seem to grasp what Nichiren is saying either -- so no surprises in this latest example of your egoistic pontificating /

I take particular issue with your choice of historic American tragedies to demean and insult me. Again, your reckless path to quick judgment is evident as is your careless misuse of analogies .

But- maybe all of your sideshows really are only effects from your egocentric approach to faith . So, once again I will direct you to the basics - Nichiren's declaring his devotion to the Lotus Sutra and his recommending daily recitation of the Hoben and Juryo chapters of the Lotus Sutra.
Apparently Noel and co. don't focus much on the Buddha's golden words and have missed the emphasis Nichiren placed on each character , each word of the Lotus Sutra . I think you missed a very straightforward clear concise message regarding FAITH as the only portal to the wisdom of the Buddha -- maybe because you don't know what you're saying or perhaps you don't care to know? At the beginning of the Life Span chapter , Shakyamuni decides to continue preaching even though his disciples admit they cannot fathom the teachings Shakyamuni is sharing from his own enlightenment ; Shakyamuni continues because his disciples pledge three times to accept the Buddha's words with FAITH.

It's not difficult to find the passage I referenced and I think you should put forth the effort to read it for yourself -- Will the words that Nichiren embraced and practiced faith in, get through the
fortress around your ego ? Too bad if you cannot sublimate your ego like all of Shakyamuni's disciples , including Nichiren -/ they attained Buddhahood . If you don't get off your high horse reinterpreting and embellishing the Buddha's teachings you are just another egocentric deluded common mortal .

~ Katie

[Noel]

It's your Karma to stuck in provisional teachings that's why you don't get Nichiren and therefore Shakyamuni. ..you poor wretched thing

[Katie Higgins]

I have not seen any evidence to support your patently arrogant pronouncements . In fact , Noel arbitrary opinions are all you express here .

It is clear that you haven't gotten close to practicing Nichiren's teachings - perhaps your deep rooted insecurities and over blown ego defense mechanisms make it difficult for you to arouse faith ?

Erradicating drludions and cultivating virtue are aspects of correct practice based on correct faith -- This I know to be a way to measure personal progress -- it is a way to gauge how devoted others are to correct practice based on. correct faith . It is a standard by which you , Chas & Ricky come up short over and over -

< Katie

[Chas.]

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:28:37 PM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:

[snip]

Notice your evasive style in refusing to respond to my response to your evil declaration of Nichiren Daishonin as a liar:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/1fUX4H4ZIaw/V2HnNSsFBwAJ

> But- maybe all of your sideshows really are only effects from your egocentric approach to faith . So, once again I will direct you to the basics - Nichiren's declaring his devotion to the Lotus Sutra and his recommending daily recitation of the Hoben and Juryo chapters of the Lotus Sutra.

> Apparently Noel and co. don't focus much on the Buddha's golden words and have missed the emphasis Nichiren placed on each character , each word of the Lotus Sutra . I think you missed a very straightforward clear concise message regarding FAITH as the only portal to the wisdom of the Buddha -- maybe because you don't know what you're saying or perhaps you don't care to know? At the beginning of the Life Span chapter , Shakyamuni decides to continue preaching even though his disciples admit they cannot fathom the teachings Shakyamuni is sharing from his own enlightenment ; Shakyamuni continues because his disciples pledge three times to accept the Buddha's words with FAITH.
>

Another profoundly incorrect reading of the Gosho. Nichiren talked about reciting PART of the Hoben Chapter sometimes, but talked dozens of times (especially in the "Letter to Hōren") about reciting the 'verse section of the "Life Span" chapter', also known as the Ji-Gage, in many, many situations.

From "Reply to the Lay Priest Soya", written in the "twelfth year of Bun’ei (1275)", well after the Gohonzon has emerged and been propagated as the "supreme object of devotion in all of Jambudvipa", WND I, p.486:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/58#para-0

... I have written out the prose section of the “Expedient
... Means” chapter for you. You should recite it together with
... the verse portion of the “Life Span” chapter, which I sent
... you earlier.

Much earlier (on the seventeenth day of the fourth month in the first year of Bun’ei in 1264, well before the emergence of the Gohonzon as the object of devotion) at the beginning of a Gosho letter to the wife of Daigaku Saburō who was mistakenly chanting Namu-ichijō-myōten for about two and a half hours a day to the cover of the Lotus Sutra, Nichiren Daishonin suggests it would be better to recite the Hoben and Juryo chapters, and he does not say in part, implying all the prose and the verse sections. However, at the end of the letter he states his final guidance:

In the Gosho letter: 'The Recitation of the "Expedient Means" and "Life Span" Chapters', WND I, p. 72:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/9#para-26

... On this basis, even if your menstrual period should last as
... long as seven days, if you feel so inclined, DISPENSE WITH
... THE READING OF THE SUTRA AND SIMPLY RECITE
... NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO. Also, when making your devotions, you
... need not bow facing the sutra.

He states this again clearly in "The Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra", WND I, p. 143:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/14#para-19

... To accept, uphold, read, recite, take delight in, and
... protect all the eight volumes and twenty-eight chapters of
... the Lotus Sutra is called the comprehensive practice. TO
... ACCEPT, UPHOLD, AND PROTECT THE “EXPEDIENT MEANS” CHAPTER
... AND THE “LIFE SPAN” CHAPTER IS CALLED THE ABBREVIATED
... PRACTICE. And simply to chant one four-phrase verse or the
... daimoku, and to protect those who do so, is called the
... essential practice. HENCE, AMONG THESE THREE KINDS OF
... PRACTICE, COMPREHENSIVE, ABBREVIATED, AND ESSENTIAL, THE
... DAIMOKU IS DEFINED AS THE ESSENTIAL PRACTICE.

In particular, this shows that Nichiren Daishonin's "essential practice" is chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, and reciting gongyo is a formality, although one I love dearly.

Your statements are CLEARLY IN ERROR, once again Katie Higgins.

There is a line from the "Life Span" chapter that you should think about: "Ga hon gyo bosatsu do", which means "originally I practiced the bodhisattva way", he's referring to his time spent with his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence and his 15 brothers in the remote past

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/16#para-14

Here is the passage from the Lotus Sutra, where Shakyamuni quotes his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One talking about the family's Kosen Rufu enterprise:

From the Lotus Sutra, Chapter 7, "Parable of the Phantom City", pp.172-173:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/7#para-282

... “You monks, I will now tell you this. These disciples of
... the buddha, these sixteen shramaneras, have now all
... attained supreme perfect enlightenment. In the lands in the
... ten directions they are at present preaching the Law, with
... immeasurable hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions
... of bodhisattvas and voice-hearers for their retinues. Two
... of these shramaneras have become buddhas in the eastern
... region. One is named Akshobhya and lives in the Land of
... Joy. The other is named Sumeru Peak. Two are buddhas in the
... southeastern region, one named Lion Voice, the other named
... Lion Appearance. Two are buddhas in the southern region,
... one named Void-Dwelling, the other named Ever Extinguished.
... Two are buddhas in the southwestern region, one named
... Emperor Appearance, the other named Brahma Appearance. Two
... are buddhas in the western region, one named Amitayus, the
... other named Saving All from Worldly Suffering. Two are
... buddhas in the northwestern region, one named Tamala Leaf
... Sandalwood Fragrance Transcendental Power, the other named
... Sumeru Appearance. Two are buddhas in the northern region,
... one named Cloud Freedom, the other named Cloud Freedom
... King. Of the buddhas of the northeastern region, one is
... named Destroying All Worldly Fears. THE SIXTEENTH IS I,
... SHAKYAMUNI BUDDHA, WHO IN THIS SAHA LAND HAVE ATTAINED
... SUPREME PERFECT ENLIGHTENMENT.

Did the grandfather have sons other than the Buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One? It is not stated. What is clear is that Shakyamuni is not the entirety of the effort, there are others involved in this enterprise.

So, your statue-worshiping practice of deifying Shakyamuni as God Almighty is made into a great lie by the Lotus Sutra, as preached by Shakyamuni.

In his human form he can only be your God of Gods above all, if he is a great liar, which he is not.

In fact, he is only human, like the rest of us and part of a great enterprise, like the rest of us. And the true entity that we share in that enterprise of Kosen Rufu, has the actual name of "Myoho-Renge", NOT Shakyamuni, NOT Nichiren Daishonin, nor anyone else that is an impermanent human being: according to Nichiren Daishonin.

[snip the rest]

-Chas.

[Noel]

You would be better off accepting Chas and Richard as your priest than Jerry he didn't even finish his training which takes 1 year in Kempon Hokke. He took off in the first 2 weeks and is now handing out a piece of paper that shows the seat positions for the trainees ceremony and you in your gullibility thinks its a certification of his priesthood

Better get cracking on your Japanese translation skills Katie

[JazzIs TvRicky]

Japanese Translation? Rather English comprehension👍✌🏻👌🏿

[Noel]

Translating Japanese into English thanks Richard. Katie is always emphasising this and signatures stamps and seals to verify authenticity but she doesn't practice what she preaches but the exact opposite as she has demonstrated over Shonky's priest ordination certificate

[Noel]

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 1:41:59 PM UTC+10, JazzIs TvRicky wrote:
> Japanese Translation? Rather English comprehension👍✌🏻👌🏿

Yes and right her English comprehension is wanting by the way she interprets Gosho's that has been already translated into the English language

[Katie Higgins]

I agree with Nichiren regarding the very important matters around authenticity. I wonder how many Tendai hobos would have conveyed had they met Nichiren , engaged him and examined his documentary proof first hand .

You say you follow Nichiren ? Yet you somehow missed key elements of his basic humanistic values.

You follow "persons" and lack necessary skills to discern real from fake.

~Katie

[Chas.]

Actually, Katie, Mark, Iain, Noel and Ricky, it is you who practice Tendai. The traitorous Tendai practice that Nichiren Daishonin decried: of sucking up to and honoring the 4 dictums and the Shinto statue worshipers.

You are projecting your own Tendai corruption onto others (see the Gosho passages below.)

What in heaven's name is so difficult to understand about the common mortal being the true Buddha? It has nothing at all to do with the "original enlightenment" of corrupted Tendai traitors, who just want to sit on their ass and do nothing.

SGI members accept that the enlightenment they attain upon chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo to the Gohonzon means that they have to walk that talk: the characteristics of a Buddha are the characteristics of a Bodhisattva bent on doing Kosen Rufu. Law -> Wisdom -> Action, and the action of shakubuku speaks the loudest: shakubuku manifests your Buddhahood most clearly.

From the "Opening of the Eyes", WND I, p. 264:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/30#para-239

. To be sure, the leaders of the various schools whose
. opinions I have quoted above all appear to base themselves
. on some groups of sutras and treatises in attempting to
. establish which teachings are the most superior. BUT THESE
. MEN ALL CLING FIRMLY TO THE DOCTRINES OF THEIR OWN SCHOOL
. AND PERPETUATE THE ERRONEOUS VIEWS HANDED DOWN FROM THEIR
. PREDECESSORS, SO THAT THEIR JUDGMENTS ARE CHARACTERIZED BY
. TWISTED INTERPRETATIONS AND PERSONAL FEELINGS. THEIR
. DOCTRINES ARE NO MORE THAN PRIVATE OPINIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
. DRESSED UP AND GLORIFIED.
.

When Nichiren Daishonin describes that "their judgments are characterized by twisted interpretations and personal feelings", he could be talking about Mark Rogow et al: in their mode of thinking they can ignore Nichiren Daishonin's admonitions to cease their slander of the Law. Instead, they twist their slanderous practices into self-righteousness.

In doing so they must ignore large stretches of the Lotus Sutra and the Gosho that disagree with their distorted views: they will be pained upon being force to look at these passages, and either ignore them or twist up their meaning into sonething horrible.

Practicing the archaic 9th-century Tendai practice of worshiping and idolizing statues of Shakyamuni in the Middle Day of the Law - after Nichiren has turned the wheel of the Law and transformed the era to the Latter Day of the Law - mixed with with the modern practice of chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo to "the supreme object of devotion in all of Jambudvipa", which is now the Gohonzon and nothing else, is nothing less than infamous. It is mixing Nichiren Daishonin's practice with provisional practices that have turned into a poisonous enemy of the Law, now that the highest practice of Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism of the Lotus Sutra has appeared.


continuing (ibid. p. 264)

. The non-Buddhist schools of such men as Vatsa and Vaipulya,
. which appeared in India after the Buddha’s passing, ARE
. EVEN MORE WRONG IN THEIR VIEWS AND MORE CUNNING IN THEIR
. DOCTRINES THAN THEIR COUNTERPARTS BEFORE THE BUDDHA
. [BECAUSE THEY BORROWED IDEAS FROM BUDDHISM]. Similarly,
. since the introduction of Buddhism to China in the Later
. Han dynasty, NON-BUDDHIST VIEWS AND WRITINGS HAVE BECOME
. EVEN MORE WRONG AND CUNNING THAN THE PRE-BUDDHIST WRITINGS
. OF CONFUCIANISM that deal with the Three Sovereigns and
. Five Emperors of antiquity. Also THE TEACHERS OF THE FLOWER
. GARLAND, DHARMA CHARACTERISTICS, TRUE WORD, AND OTHER
. SCHOOLS, JEALOUS OF THE CORRECT DOCTRINES OF THE T’IEN-T’AI
. SCHOOL, BRAZENLY INTERPRET THE WORDS OF THE TRUE SUTRA IN
. SUCH A WAY THAT THEY WILL ACCORD WITH THE PROVISIONAL
. TEACHINGS.
.

When Nichiren Daishonin says "The non-Buddhist schools of such men as Vatsa and Vaipulya, which appeared in India after the Buddha’s passing, are even more wrong in their views and more cunning in their doctrines than their counterparts before the Buddha [because they borrowed ideas from Buddhism]," he is also talking about the mixing of Hindu statue worship of Shakyamuni (or anyone else) exalted as a god, above common mortals and Buddhas, in a shrine, separately or right next to your Gohonzon.

The Hindus embraced many religions by placing their founders, like the Buddha or Christ into shrines and having local villages worship them like gods: it was their way of defusing the power of other founders through corrupted idolatry. It is no less a distortion of Buddhism than Nembutsu, Zen, True Word (Shingon), or Precepts (Risshu), the four dictums.

continuing (ibid. p. 264)

. Those who seek the way, however, SHOULD REJECT SUCH
. ONE-SIDED VIEWS, TRANSCENDING DISPUTES BETWEEN ONE’S OWN
. SCHOOL AND OTHERS, AND SHOULD NOT TREAT OTHERS WITH CONTEMPT.
.

Refuting another person's distorted views of Buddhism, which will guarantee them an extended trip to Avichi Hell, is not treating those persons with contempt. It is in fact the converse, becoming their parent and saving their future existences for countless kalpas. It is pulling them from the path of evil friends and onto the path to enlightenment. You have to be straight with others, but not contemptuous, and there is a fine line there, between pointing out their erroneous thoughts, words and deeds and attacking their person, who is in fact the common mortal and the true Buddha.

Some will take highlighting their erroneous thoughts, words and deeds as a personal attack, because they are so attached and enmeshed in the their slanderous beliefs and practices that they cannot tell where their own true entity leaves off and the slanderous beliefs contained in their minds begins.

This is a natural outgrowth of the self-protective nature of the demons (evil systems of thoughts, words and deeds) that possess people and which they cannot shake off. The cause for removing these demons is shakubuku, which infected people will resist with a demonic fury.

Nevertheless, shakubuku is the way in the modern world, corrupted as it is by the four dictums and even worse distortions of Nichiren Buddhism.

All living beings are Buddhas, endowed with the three Bodies of the Buddha received from their parents.

What follows is a cure for what ails you, regarding slandering the common mortal being the true Buddha and the slander of gradualism, with many quotes from nine Goshos that you can dispute specifically, since I see that as your intent.

________ Slanders of the common mortal ___________
________ as the true Buddha ______________________

Let's revisit that ARBN quote from the follower of the Nichiren Shu traitorous founders, the Five Senior Priests who converted Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Buddhism into a syncretic Shinto statue-worshiping of Shakyamuni as God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth:

||| I have considered the recipients of Nichiren's writings to
||| be a key factor, or rather, an important element regarding
||| the *meaning* conveyed. Nichiren wrote about the Gohonzon
||| to disciples and lay followers whom he had taught for
||| almost two decades; all of whom grasped the doctrines
||| Nichiren himself established for propagating
||| Myoho-renge-kyo in this latter age.
|||
||| Do you, Chas, accept and believe the preceding 18 years of
||| Nichiren's teachings , written to these disciples and lay
||| followers? In those writings I find and provide passages
||| here, to establish that Nichiren himself taught the primacy
||| of the daimoku as " a complete explanation" of the Lotus
||| Sutra, and Shakyamuni as the true, eternal Buddha. Since
||| you have dismissed the basic understanding ALL recipients
||| of Nichiren's writings most certainly had, how can you make
||| any determinations about the *meaning* expressed in the
||| Gosho?

There are many pillars upholding the difference of Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism of the Lotus Sutra from all other Buddhisms, which are then clearly distortions of the Buddha's teachings and intent.

It's also abundantly true that all of Nichiren Daishonin's pillars stand together in perfect logical harmony, without the tiniest weak point in the structure. All of the deviant variants of Buddhism are like horrid collapsing lopsided structures in comparison. They are tents and hastily erected shacks that do not survive even the slight breeze. Let's start with the notion of manifesting Buddhahood in an instant:

From "Wu-lung and I-lung", WND I, p. 1099 (most relevant part highlighted):

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/162#para-1

... Myoho-renge-kyo is likened to the lotus. The great māndāra
... flower in heaven and the cherry blossom in the human world
... are both celebrated flowers, but the Buddha chose neither
... to compare to the Lotus Sutra. Of all the flowers, he
... selected the lotus blossom to symbolize the Lotus Sutra.
... There is a reason for this. Some plants first flower and
... then produce fruit, while in others fruit comes forth
... before flowers. Some bear only one flower but much fruit,
... others send forth many flowers but only one fruit, and
>> still others produce fruit without flowering. THUS THERE
>> ARE ALL MANNER OF PLANTS, BUT THE LOTUS IS THE ONLY ONE
>> THAT BEARS FLOWERS AND FRUIT SIMULTANEOUSLY. THE BENEFIT OF
>> ALL THE OTHER SUTRAS IS UNCERTAIN, BECAUSE THEY TEACH THAT
>> ONE MUST FIRST MAKE GOOD CAUSES AND ONLY THEN CAN ONE
>> BECOME A BUDDHA AT SOME LATER TIME. WITH REGARD TO THE
>> LOTUS SUTRA, WHEN ONE'S HAND TAKES IT UP, THAT HAND
>> IMMEDIATELY ATTAINS BUDDHAHOOD, AND WHEN ONE'S MOUTH CHANTS
>> IT, THAT MOUTH IS ITSELF A BUDDHA, AS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
>> MOON IS REFLECTED IN THE WATER THE MOMENT IT APPEARS FROM
>> BEHIND THE EASTERN MOUNTAINS, OR AS A SOUND AND ITS ECHO
>> ARISE SIMULTANEOUSLY. IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT THE SUTRA
>> STATES, "IF THERE ARE THOSE WHO HEAR THE LAW, THEN NOT A
>> ONE WILL FAIL TO ATTAIN BUDDHAHOOD." THIS PASSAGE MEANS
>> THAT, IF THERE ARE A HUNDRED OR A THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO
>> UPHOLD THIS SUTRA, WITHOUT A SINGLE EXCEPTION ALL ONE
>> HUNDRED OR ONE THOUSAND OF THEM WILL BECOME BUDDHAS.

The piece to focus on here is:

"The benefit of all the other sutras is uncertain, because they teach that one must first make good causes and only then can one become a Buddha at some later time. With regard to the Lotus Sutra, when one's hand takes it up, that hand immediately attains Buddhahood, and when one's mouth chants it, that mouth is itself a Buddha"

The only conceivable way that one can attain Buddhahood simultaneously with chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, is if one is already a Buddha, and one only needs to chant the daimoku to manifest that pre-existing and inherited Buddhahood.

As argued clearly in the previous 2nd section on slanders of the true aspect of all phenomena, (1.) the common mortal is the true Buddha and provisional Buddhas are a function of the true Buddha (common mortal), and (2.) all phenomena are the true aspect AND Myoho-Renge-Kyo, precisely because the true aspect means without having the aspect of any specific or particular entity, but is inclusive of all entities.

The view that the provisional Buddhas who appear to save we common mortals are THE Buddha, and that we ARE NOT, is a slander of the Lotus Sutra in the Latter Day of the Law and it arises from confusing inconspicuous benefit with enlightenment.

Here is Nichiren Daishonin's explanation of the differences in the teachings, and which view the Lotus Sutra takes.

From "The Unanimous Declaration by the Buddhas", WND II, p. 859:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/315#para-185

>> WHEN ONE TURNS TO THE PERFECT TEACHING, however, and sees
... that all phenomena are perfectly fused together, full and
... perfect like the moon on the fifteenth night of the month,
... free of all insufficiency, and when one understands them to
>> the fullest, THEN THERE IS NO MORE JUDGING THEM AS GOOD OR
>> BAD, NO MORE CHOOSING ON THE BASIS OF WHAT IS TIMELY, NO
>> MORE NEED TO SEEK OUT A QUIET SETTING, NO MORE QUESTION OF
>> WHICH PERSONS ARE ELIGIBLE. When one understands that all
... phenomena whatsoever are manifestations of the Buddhist
... Law, then one has fully comprehended the nature of the
... things of the phenomenal realm. Then even if one follows a
... path that is not the way, one will still be fulfilling
... the Buddha way.
...
>> HEAVEN, EARTH, WATER, FIRE, AND WIND ARE THE FIVE WISDOM
>> THUS COME ONES. THEY RESIDE WITHIN THE BODY AND MIND OF ALL
>> LIVING BEINGS AND ARE NEVER SEPARATED FROM THEM EVEN FOR AN
>> INSTANT. THEREFORE WORLDLY AFFAIRS AND AFFAIRS RELATING TO
>> ENLIGHTENMENT BLEND TOGETHER IN HARMONY WITHIN THE MIND OF
>> THE INDIVIDUAL; OUTSIDE OF THE MIND, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO
>> OTHER THING THAT EXISTS. THEREFORE, WHEN ONE HEARS THIS
>> TRUTH, ONE CAN AT THAT POINT IMMEDIATELY ATTAIN THE GOAL OF
>> BUDDHAHOOD WITHOUT A MOMENT'S DELAY, FOR IT IS A PRINCIPLE
>> OF THE UTMOST PROFUNDITY.

To confuse inconspicuous benefit with enlightenment is a slander of the Lotus Sutra, and will cause one to fall into the evil paths.

Inconspicuous benefit grows slowly as one practices, like a great tree.

Being the true Buddha is the heritage of the Law, received from your parents at birth in the form of the three bodies of the Buddha, establishing your true identity as Myoho-Renge, the Entity of the Mystic Law.

You have always been and will always be the true Buddha: to be a living being is to be the true Buddha.

What in heaven's name is so difficult to understand about the common mortal being the true Buddha? It has nothing at all to do with the "original enlightenment" of corrupted Tendai traitors, who just want to sit on their ass and do nothing.

SGI members accept that the enlightenment they attain upon chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo to the Gohonzon means that they have to walk that talk: the characteristics of a Buddha are the characteristics of a Bodhisattva bent on doing Kosen Rufu. Law -> Wisdom -> Action, and the action of shakubuku speaks the loudest: shakubuku manifests your Buddhahood most clearly.

All living beings are Buddhas, endowed with the three Bodies of the Buddha received from their parents.

From "On the Treasure Tower," WND I, pp. 299-300:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/31#para-3
.. YOU, YOURSELF, ARE A THUS COME ONE WHO IS ORIGINALLY
.. ENLIGHTENED AND ENDOWED WITH THE THREE BODIES. You should
.. chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo with this conviction. Then the
.. place where you chant daimoku will become the dwelling
.. place of the treasure tower.

He says it plainly right there: "You, yourself, ARE A THUS COME ONE WHO IS ORIGINALLY ENLIGHTENED AND ENDOWED WITH THE THREE BODIES." Nichiren Daishonin is not just being a cheerleader for Abutsu-bo here, he really means it.

From "Conversation between a Sage and an Unenlightened Man," WND I, p. 131:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/13#para-202
.. THE BUDDHA NATURE THAT ALL THESE BEINGS POSSESS IS CALLED
.. BY THE NAME MYOHO-RENGE-KYO. THEREFORE, IF YOU RECITE THESE
.. WORDS OF THE DAIMOKU ONCE, THEN THE BUDDHA NATURE OF ALL
.. LIVING BEINGS WILL BE SUMMONED AND GATHER AROUND YOU. AT
.. THAT TIME THE THREE BODIES OF THE DHARMA NATURE WITHIN
.. YOU—THE DHARMA BODY, THE REWARD BODY, AND THE MANIFESTED
.. BODY—WILL BE DRAWN FORTH AND BECOME MANIFEST. THIS IS
.. CALLED ATTAINING BUDDHAHOOD. To illustrate, when a caged
.. bird sings, the many birds flying in the sky all gather
.. around it at once; seeing this, the bird in the cage
.. strives to get out.”

And there he says it again, very clearly, no interpretation required. "... if you recite the words of the daimoku once ... This is called attaining Buddhahood."

From "The Unanimous Declaration by the Buddhas of the Three Existences regarding the Classification of the Teachings and Which Are to Be Abandoned and Which Upheld," WND II, pp. 847-848:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/315#para-105
.. THE SENTIENT BEINGS AND THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE TEN WORLDS
.. ARE THE BUDDHA OF THE DHARMA BODY, ONE WHO POSSESSES THE
.. VIRTUE OF THE THREE BODIES IN A SINGLE ENTITY. Once one has
.. understood this, one will fully realize that all phenomena
.. are the Buddhist Law. This is known as the stage of hearing
.. the name and words of the truth. FROM THE STAGE OF HEARING
.. THE NAME AND WORDS OF THE TRUTH ONE PROCEEDS DIRECTLY TO
.. THE ATTAINMENT OF BUDDHAHOOD IN ONE’S PRESENT FORM. Thus
.. in the teaching of perfect and immediate enlightenment
.. there are no successive stages of practice.

Note the phrase: "From the stage of HEARING THE NAME AND WORDS OF THE TRUTH one proceeds directly to the ATTAINMENT OF BUDDHAHOOD IN ONE’S PRESENT FORM."

From hearing the daimoku -> directly to attaining Buddhahood.

Then he says: "Thus in the teaching of perfect and immediate enlightenment THERE ARE NO SUCCESSIVE STAGES OF PRACTICE."

Thus, there are no extra practices needed to attain Buddhahood.

Enlightenment or Buddhahood is attained by hearing or chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for the very first time. In that moment you are a participant in the ceremony in the air.

From "The Entity of the Mystic Law," WND I, p. 429:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-89

.. Therefore, we understand that, once the “Life Span”
.. chapter of the essential teaching had been revealed, ALL
.. THOSE IN THE ASSEMBLY ON EAGLE PEAK BECAME ENLIGHTENED TO
.. THE LOTUS OF THE ENTITY. Those of the two vehicles, the
.. icchantikas, or persons of incorrigible disbelief, and
.. the determinate groups, as well as women and evil men,
.. ALL GAINED AN AWAKENING TO THE LOTUS OF THE ETERNAL BUDDHA.

All living beings are Buddhas, and they all attain Buddhahood/enlightenment in the ceremony in the air, which you participate in, upon any contact with the daimoku of the Lotus Sutra.

From "Conversation between a Sage and an Unenlightened Man," WND I, p. 133:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/13#para-217

.. “It is the same way with the practitioners of the Lotus
.. Sutra. THOUGH THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLES OF
.. BUDDHISM AND MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM
.. DELUSION, IF ONLY THEY HAVE FAITH, THEN WITHOUT A DOUBT
.. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FREE THEMSELVES simultaneously from
.. the illnesses of the three categories of illusion—illusions
.. of thought and desire, illusions innumerable as particles
.. of dust and sand, and illusions about the true nature of
.. existence. THEY WILL REACH THE LANDS OF ACTUAL REWARD AND
.. TRANQUIL LIGHT, AND CAUSE THE THREE BODIES OF A THUS COME
.. ONE THAT THEY INHERENTLY POSSESS TO SHINE.

In Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism, Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo IS EQUAL TO FAITH, chanting it and even hearing it is attaining enlightenment and manifesting your inherent Buddhahood.

From "The Teaching, Practice, and Proof," WND I, p. 470:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/57#para-20
.. People may well wonder what this revelation means. Explain
.. that it teaches that COMMON PEOPLE LIKE OURSELVES, who have
.. been submerged in the sufferings of birth and death since
.. time without beginning and who never so much as dreamed of
.. reaching the shore of enlightenment, BECOME THE THUS COME
.. ONES WHO ARE ORIGINALLY ENLIGHTENED AND ENDOWED WITH THE
.. THREE BODIES.

And that means through the revelation (hearing the daimoku, chanting it) of the Lotus Sutra itself, we common people become the Thus Come Ones (plural,) not through some Bodhisattva path. We perform as Bodhisattvas, BECAUSE WE HAVE ATTAINED BUDDHAHOOD THROUGH CHANTING NAM_MYOHO_RENGE_KYO TO THE GOHONZON.

From "The One Essential Phrase," WND I, p. 922:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/121#para-1
.. SINCE THE LOTUS SUTRA DEFINES OUR BODY AS THE DHARMA BODY
.. OF A THUS COME ONE, OUR MIND AS THE REWARD BODY OF A THUS
.. COME ONE, AND OUR ACTIONS AS THE MANIFESTED BODY OF A THUS
.. COME ONE, ALL WHO UPHOLD AND BELIEVE IN EVEN A SINGLE
.. PHRASE OR VERSE OF THIS SUTRA WILL BE ENDOWED WITH THE
.. BENEFITS OF THESE THREE BODIES. Nam-myoho-renge-kyo is only
.. one phrase or verse, but it is no ordinary phrase, for it
.. is the essence of the entire sutra. YOU ASKED WHETHER ONE
.. CAN ATTAIN BUDDHAHOOD ONLY BY CHANTING NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO,
.. AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF ALL. THIS IS THE
.. HEART OF THE ENTIRE SUTRA AND THE SUBSTANCE OF ITS EIGHT
.. VOLUMES.

Just by chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, we can attain Buddhahood. He doesn't say how long we have to chant, because it happens immediately.

From "The Entity of the Mystic Law," WND I, p. 420:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-29
.. IN ESSENCE, THE ENTITY OF MYOHO-RENGE-KYO IS THE PHYSICAL
.. BODY THAT THE DISCIPLES AND FOLLOWERS OF NICHIREN WHO
.. BELIEVE IN THE LOTUS SUTRA RECEIVED FROM THEIR FATHERS AND
.. MOTHERS AT BIRTH. Such persons, WHO HONESTLY DISCARD
.. EXPEDIENT MEANS, PUT FAITH IN THE LOTUS SUTRA ALONE, AND
.. CHANT NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO, WILL TRANSFORM THE THREE PATHS
.. OF EARTHLY DESIRES, KARMA, AND SUFFERING INTO THE THREE
.. VIRTUES OF THE DHARMA BODY, WISDOM, AND EMANCIPATION. The
.. threefold contemplation and the three truths will
.. immediately become manifest in their minds, and the place
.. where they live will become the Land of Eternally Tranquil
.. Light. The Buddha who is the entity of Myoho-renge-kyo, of
.. the “Life Span” chapter of the essential teaching, who is
.. both inhabiting subject and inhabited realm, life and
.. environment, body and mind, entity and function, THE BUDDHA
.. ETERNALLY ENDOWED WITH THE THREE BODIES—HE IS TO BE FOUND
.. IN THE DISCIPLES AND LAY BELIEVERS OF NICHIREN.

Notice the qualifying phrase:

"Such persons, WHO HONESTLY DISCARD EXPEDIENT MEANS, put faith in the Lotus Sutra alone, and chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, will transform the three paths of earthly desires, karma, and suffering into the three virtues of the Dharma body, wisdom, and emancipation."

You have to "honestly discard expediant means" to gain the benefits of the three bodies: you can't worship statues, practice the four dictums (Zen, Nembutsu, Tantric/True Word, Shakyamuni's provisional precepts), join with Shinto, or chant to pirated printouts of Gohonzon stolen by traitorous, thieving, murderous priests of Nichiren Shu, who betrayed Nichiren Daishonin by distorting his Buddhism into a statue-worshiping Shinto cult forcing Shakyamuni into the role of God Almighty, which he would have rejected as utterly narcissistic. That slander of complicity cancels your benefits of the three bodies.

From "The Doctrine of Three Thousand Realms in a Single Moment of Life," WND II, p. 87:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/180#para-43
.. THIS MYOHO-RENGE-KYO IS A TERM DESIGNATING THE ESSENTIAL
.. NATURE OF OUR MINDS, OR, MORE GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE
.. ESSENTIAL NATURE OF THE MINDS OF ALL LIVING BEINGS, THE
.. EIGHT-PETALED WHITE LOTUS BLOSSOM. THE WORDS OF THE BUDDHA
.. HIMSELF TEACH US THIS. From time without beginning until
.. the present, these bodies of ours have transmigrated
.. through the realm of birth and death, in a state of
.. delusion as to the essential nature of the mind that is
.. within these bodies. BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED THE
.. LOTUS SUTRA AND CHANT THE DAIMOKU THAT REPRESENTS THE THUS
.. COME ONE OF ORIGINAL ENLIGHTENMENT, WHO POSSESSES THE THREE
.. BODIES IN A SINGLE BODY, THE THUS COME ONE BECOMES
.. MANIFEST. In our present existence we achieve the inner
.. realization and attainment of Buddhahood that is known as
.. the attainment of Buddhahood in our present form.

Once again, he states it clearly and without any amount of chanting or time passage: our Buddhahood "becomes manifest" at the point when we "have encountered the Lotus Sutra and chanted the daimoku."

You have always been and will always be the true Buddha: to be a living being is to be the true Buddha.


________ The Slander of Gradualism _______________

Gradualism, in Buddhism, is the idea that one starts as a Bodhisattva and gradually gains wisdom to become a Buddha. This view is a slander of the Lotus Sutra in the Latter Day of the Law and it arises from confusing inconspicuous benefit with enlightenment.

Here is Nichiren Daishonin's explanation of the differences in the teachings, and which view the Lotus Sutra takes.

From "The Unanimous Declaration by the Buddhas", WND II, p. 858-859:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-2/Content/315#para-180

... It is essential that one give close study to the three
... teachings that run through all Buddhism. THESE THREE ARE
... THE SUDDEN TEACHING, THE GRADUAL TEACHING, AND THE PERFECT
... TEACHING. These are the unity of the three truths set forth
... in the sacred teachings of the Buddha's lifetime.
...
... THE FIRST TWO TEACHINGS, SUDDEN AND GRADUAL, WERE EXPOUNDED
... BY THE BUDDHA IN THE FIRST FORTY-TWO YEARS OF HIS PREACHING
... LIFE; the perfect teaching was expounded in the last eight
... years. Together they represent the teachings of a period of
... fifty years. Outside of these, there are no other
... doctrines. How then can you fail to understand them
... correctly?
...
... When one is still at the stage of an ordinary living being,
... these three teachings are referred to as the three truths.
... When one has attained the goal of Buddhahood, they are
... called the three bodies. These are different names for the
... same thing. The process of expounding and bringing them to
... light is known as the sacred teachings of the Buddha's
... lifetime. WHEN ONE OPENS UP AND MERGES THESE SO THAT ONE
>> CAN PERCEIVE THAT THE THREE TRUTHS CONSTITUTE A SINGLE
>> ENTITY, THIS IS TO ATTAIN BUDDHAHOOD. THIS IS CALLED
>> OPENING UP AND MERGING, AND THIS IS THE TEACHING THAT
>> PERTAINS TO THE BUDDHA'S ENLIGHTENMENT.
...
... In the doctrinal systems expounded in the other schools,
... these three truths that constitute a unity are treated as
... separate and expounded under eight headings. Each of
... these eight forms the basis for a particular school; thus
... they are all lacking in the principle of full and perfect
... unity and hence have no truth by which one may attain
... Buddhahood.
...
... IN THESE OTHER SCHOOLS, THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY OF TRULY
... ATTAINING BUDDHAHOOD—THEREFORE ONE DISLIKES THEM. BUT WHAT
... ONE DISLIKES ABOUT THEM IS THE FACT THAT THEIR DOCTRINES
... ARE INSUFFICIENT.
...
... WHEN ONE TURNS TO THE PERFECT TEACHING, however, and sees
... that all phenomena are perfectly fused together, full and
... perfect like the moon on the fifteenth night of the month,
... free of all insufficiency, and when one understands them to
>> the fullest, THEN THERE IS NO MORE JUDGING THEM AS GOOD OR
>> BAD, NO MORE CHOOSING ON THE BASIS OF WHAT IS TIMELY, NO
>> MORE NEED TO SEEK OUT A QUIET SETTING, NO MORE QUESTION OF
>> WHICH PERSONS ARE ELIGIBLE. When one understands that all
... phenomena whatsoever are manifestations of the Buddhist
... Law, then one has fully comprehended the nature of the
... things of the phenomenal realm. Then even if one follows a
... path that is not the way, one will still be fulfilling
... the Buddha way.
...
>> HEAVEN, EARTH, WATER, FIRE, AND WIND ARE THE FIVE WISDOM
>> THUS COME ONES. THEY RESIDE WITHIN THE BODY AND MIND OF ALL
>> LIVING BEINGS AND ARE NEVER SEPARATED FROM THEM EVEN FOR AN
>> INSTANT. THEREFORE WORLDLY AFFAIRS AND AFFAIRS RELATING TO
>> ENLIGHTENMENT BLEND TOGETHER IN HARMONY WITHIN THE MIND OF
>> THE INDIVIDUAL; OUTSIDE OF THE MIND, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO
>> OTHER THING THAT EXISTS. THEREFORE, WHEN ONE HEARS THIS
>> TRUTH, ONE CAN AT THAT POINT IMMEDIATELY ATTAIN THE GOAL OF
>> BUDDHAHOOD WITHOUT A MOMENT'S DELAY, FOR IT IS A PRINCIPLE
>> OF THE UTMOST PROFUNDITY.

To confuse inconspicuous benefit with enlightenment is a slander of the Lotus Sutra, and will cause one to fall into the evil paths.

Inconspicuous benefit grows slowly as one practices, like a great tree.

Being the true Buddha is the heritage of the Law, received from your parents at birth in the form of the three bodies of the Buddha, establishing your true identity as Myoho-Renge, the Entity of the Mystic Law.

You have always been and will always be the true Buddha: to be a living being is to be the true Buddha.

You possess the Buddha nature, but it has no nascent form or "off switch," once exposed to the Lotus Sutra, which has happened universally in this time, you manifest Buddhahood. Like a flower tracks the sun.

Even the followers of Bin Laden, and now ISIS, have watched Danny Pearl chant Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo three times before being beheaded in his death video, along with many millions of curious Islamists.

"Therefore, when one hears this truth, one can at that point immediately attain the goal of Buddhahood without a moment's delay, for it is a principle of the utmost profundity." - Nichiren Daishonin

What is this heard truth that the Daishonin speaks of? It is none other than Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and you manifest your Buddhahood and attain enlightenment simply by hearing it, speaking it and telling others of it.

As practice continues, the inconspicuous benefits of that practice accrue (such as life condition that becomes part of your permanent armor as a Bodhisattva), and with those benefits the danger that one might see oneself and other longtime practitioners or leaders as something special and apart, when in fact neither is true: there are no distinctions between Nichiren Daishonin and his followers: the common mortals of the Latter Day of the Law. Taking up the gradual benefit of life condition as an excuse to feel special and apart from others is the way of Zen.

The Gradual Teaching is the province of Northern Zen Practice, which has influenced funeral Buddhism and Shinto since China. Northern Zen died out after passing along it's slander to temple Buddhisms, monks and priests.

Southern Zen with its doctrine of sudden enlightenment called "Satori", became more popular (nobody wanted to take kalpas to attain enlightenment.) Hence, the Zen koans, sand gardens, smooth rock piles and other devices, like sword matches, or beheading helpless Chinese captives in a single smooth stroke leaving the head attached by a thin strip of skin, to gain a false enlightenment Satori! moment.

Here is the originator of "Gradualism" (a disciple of Kumarajiva) in the Lotus Sutra line, who ended up considering the Nirvana Sutra to be the highest teaching (Hui-kuan):
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/dic/Content/H/72#para-0

Here is the originator of Northern "Gradual" Zen (Shen-hsiu):
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/dic/Content/N/96#para-0

Here is the originator of Southern "Satori" Zen (Hui-Neng):
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/dic/Content/H/75

Nichiren Daishonin is absolutely opposed to gradualism, which is now the way of Zen, punctuated with Satori! moments.

Gradualism is also a foundational element of the phenomenon that is called "funeral Buddhism" across Asia and the Far East, in Shinto, Nembutsu, Shingon/Tantric, Zen, Tendai, Nichiren Shu and Nichiren Shoshu temples: they are all the same in this regard.

Funeral Buddhism is the way that most people practice who are connected to a Buddhist temple, in their home region, or their family's home region. They pay the temple priests for prayers at all of the critical junctures of their life. Marriages and funerals are very expensive and key transitional points where the priests pad their bottom line.

A work acquaintance of mine, a Japanese researcher/programmer of astonishing ability, related to me how his family had to pay $30,000 to the Nembutsu priest, just to find out what the name of their deceased father now had in the Western Region where Amida rules and the dead have gone, so that the future prayers (accompanied by future payments) of that same priest could make their way to him and give him happiness in the next life.

[In contrast. the SGI finds a way to make these moments very inexpensive at the local Buddhist Center, the Activity Center or the Culture Center, through volunteerism by the SGI community. Sensei's message to the families of the deceased outlines how we are continuously born again with our families, and how our prayers and daimoku can make their lives better. This is simply Kenzoku: the shared or common karma of groups, and it is fundamental to how families stay connected across the kalpas.]

Without the view of Gradualism, funeral Buddhism could not exist. The priest supposedly has greater wisdom than you, is enlightened to a higher stage than you, and so his prayers are stronger and more tightly connected than yours, his secret wisdom and his view of your life and his counsel are more focused, and so you should pay him more money, more regularly.

Since the priest is taking care of your deceased ancestors and praying for the good fortune of your extended family, switching temples or religions is simply unimaginable: it means abandoning your whole beloved family and allowing them to fall into hell.

Nichiren Daishonin allows that you can avoid all of this and lead your ancestors and descendents into great happiness simply by practicing the Daishonin's Buddhism: (1) by chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and doing regular Gongyo, (2) by protecting your practice and that of others by studying the Gosho and Buddhism and not slandering the Law, (3) and by joining in Kosen Rufu activities to make the world a better place. It's all in your hands, the hands of the eternal Buddha whose actual name is Myoho-Renge.

-Chas.

[Noel]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:03:22 AM UTC+10, Katie Higgins wrote:
> SGI boasts, "we have 12,000,000 adherents"
>
> “In both secular and religious realms, as is plain to see, good persons are rare while evil persons are numerous. Why, then, do you insist upon despising the few and favoring the many? Dirt and sand are plentiful, but rice and other grains are rare. The bark of trees is available in great quantities, but hemp and silk fabrics are hard to come by. You should put the truth of the teaching before everything else; certainly you should not base your judgment on the number of adherents.” -- Nichiren
>
> "Certainly you should not base your judgment on the number of adherents." — Nichiren
> http://markrogow.blogspot.com/2017/07/sgi-boasts-we-have-12000000-adherents.html
>
>
>
> It is noteworthy to consider the evidence of "number of adherents "when one is looking directly at the effects of propagating an evil doctrine, that is to say; the spiritual decline of our society and the global unrest that puts us on the brink of self destruction!
>
> Is there a clearer example of how far afield SGI has become from the teachings of Nichiren? I mean, when they actually begin to boast that they are responsible for the decline and decay of the spirits of the people-- on a global scale??--- is there no one who can awaken SGI from its fixed delusions?
>
> ~Katie

The little wooden Buddha in prayer pose in the corner of the room that was facing straight ahead has somehow turned 45 degrees facing the Gohonzon. Nam[u] Myoho Renge Kyo truly is the Law from which all Buddhas become enlightened

[Mark Rogow]

The Infinite Meanings Sutra teaches that for these more than forty years, I have not yet revealed the truth. Nichiren teaches that the unimaginable difference between the provisional teachings and the Lotus Sutra pales in comparison with the difference between the Theoretical Section of the Lotus Sutra and the Essential Section. Compared to the provisional teachings, the Devedatta Chapter is true but compared to the Essential Teachings, at best, the Devedattas Chapter is a partial truth. Without the awakening of Nichiren that all Buddhas throughout the universe are emanations of Shakyamuni Buddha, there is no proof of Enlightenment...


"But forever here preaching the law."

And:

"I forever remain in this [world]"

And:

"And then I tell all creatures
That I exist forever in this world"

Therefore, once expedients are abandoned:

"I [Shakyamuni] tell all creatures that I [Shakyamuni] exist forever in this world."

"By the power of tactful methods
Revealing [myself] extinct and not extinct"

"[If] in other regions there are beings
Reverent and with faith aspiring
Again I am in their midst"

"other regions" means everywhere, means past present and future and means eternal:

"I behold all living creatures
Sunk in the sea of suffering
Hence I do not reveal myself"

Beholding all living beings means omnipresent.

"Hence I [Shakyamuni] do not reveal myself" (although "I" am always present.)

"Till, when their hearts are longing,
I appear to preach the Law:"

"I therefore appear to all living creatures."

All living creatures include those who have existed since time without beginning, those who now exist, and those who will exist in the infinite future.

"[I am] always on the Divine Vulture Peak
And in every other dwelling place".

This is self explanatory.

"Tranquil is this realm of mine,
Ever filled with heavenly beings,"
Parks, and many palaces
With every kind of gem adorned,
Precious trees full of blossoms and fruit,
where all beings take their pleasure"

Again, "ever" is forever [eternal] and "all" is all throughout the Three Existences. This passage brings up a very important point: Not only the Buddha Shakyamuni who teaches all beings the eternity of life is eternal but so is his land and so are the masses of beings.

''But all who perform virtuous deeds
And are gentle and upright
These all see that I exist."

Again, "all" is all. Those who existed, exist and will exist(from the standpoint of the Truth of Temporary Existence) who perform virtuous deeds and are gentle and upright, these beings see that Shakyamuni always exists. Does that mean that those who don't see the Buddha, those such as Nikken, Ikeda, and yourself, are not virtuous and upright?

"For the Buddha's words are true, not false.
Like the Physician who with clever device,
In order to cure his demented sons,
Though indeed alive, annonces his own death
Yet can not be charged with any falsehood,
I, too, being father of this world,
Who heals all misery and affliction,
For the sake of the perverted people,
Though truly alive, say [I am] extinct;

Who is the father of this Saha world who heals all misery and all affliction? There can not be two fathers. This would have been an opportune time for Shakyamuni to announce a Buddha more original than himself [as the father of the world] but, as we see, the Buddha Shakyamuni, consistent from beginning to end, again announces, "I".

"I, ever knowing all beings"

Again, the words "I", "ever" and "all".

"Expound their every Law"

Buddha Shakyamuni [as He, Nichiren Daishonin, and we state] teaches every Law.

"Ever making this my thought:
How shall I cause all the living
To enter the Way supreme
and speedily accomplish their Duddhahood."

Mark

[Chas.]

Here's some Lotus Sutra for you to consider, Mark Rogow, in your utter defeat.

When Shakyamuni preaches the Lotus Sutra, he is speaking for the soul of Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo that exists in all living beings, but he is not the only one that preaches thus. In the Lotus Sutra he predicts future Buddhas from his followers and even from Devadatta. They will all become Thus Come Ones and that means they will all preach the Lotus Sutra as he did.

In the remote past there were also others who preached thus, Shakyamuni's grandfather, his father the buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence and 15 brothers:

The Parable of the Phantom City, LS-7, pp 156-157:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/7#para-35

... "Now, monks, the buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence
... passed ten small kalpas before the Law of the buddhas
... finally appeared before him and he attained supreme
... perfect enlightenment. Before this buddha left the
... householder's life, he had sixteen sons, the first of whom
... was named Wisdom Accumulated. These sons each had various
... kinds of rare objects and toys of one kind or another, but
... when they heard that their father had attained supreme
... perfect enlightenment, they all threw aside their rare
... objects and went to where the buddha was. Their mothers,
... weeping, followed after them.
...
... "Their grandfather, who was a wheel-turning sage king,
... along with a hundred chief ministers, as well as a
... hundred, thousand, ten thousand, million of his subjects,
... all together surrounded the sons and followed them to the
... place of enlightenment, all wishing to draw close to the
... thus come one Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, to offer
... alms, pay honor, venerate, and praise him. When they
... arrived, they bowed before his feet, touching their heads
... to the ground.

He and his fifteen brothers all preached in different Buddha lands:

Presumably, when each preached the Lotus Sutra, each in turn spoke for the entity of the Mystic Law welling up from within their lives. Each in turn said, "I [name goes here] tell all creatures that I [name goes here] exist forever in this world."

Presumably, none of them had the job of declaring what is the [name goes here]. That is the job of some one who comes sometime later as Bodhisattva Jogyo who says that "the actual name of the entity" was/is/will be "Myoho-Renge."

I presume that having been thus in this world, it is thus in those "other lands".

My presumptions might be wrong, but AT LEAST THEY ARE IN LINE WITH THE ACTUAL WORDS DESCRIBING THE TRUE REALITY IN THE LOTUS SUTRA ITSELF, PREACHED BY SHAKYAMUNI, HIMSELF, AND NOT IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION OF THE GOLDEN WORDS OF THE LOTUS SUTRA PREACHED BY SHAKYAMUNI BUDDHA, AS YOUR DISTORTIONS OF BUDDHISM ARE.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Weird and blatant diversion from the Buddha's own words , Chas - that is your contribution to the corruption of the Buddha's teachings .

if in fact you do recite the chapters of the Lotus Sutra Nichiren recommended everyday and therefore "hear" the passages Mark shared , then what accounts for your blindness regarding the identity of the eternal Buddha?

You lack the requisites the Buddha himself established : (see quotations above)

So, you don't "see" the Buddha in your own mind - you don't experience the joy Nichiren declared was the effect of chanting Namu-myoho-renge-kyo;

Nichiren wrote "on Correct Contemplation" to Sairen-bo, a Tendai priest who converted to Nichiren's teachings on Sado; " If shikan is not grounded in the Lotus Sutra, then the Tendai shikan becomes equivalent to the Daruma[shu]'s diabolical and false teaching of a separate transmission outside the scriptures ."

If you are not focusing your mind on the Lotus Sutra and the Buddha when you chant the daimoku Nichiren taught , yours is a false , diabolical teaching " of a separate teaching outside of the scriptures".

Clearly whatever comes out of your mouth has no connection to the Lotus Sutra -- it is within your own heart that you slander the Buddha and his highest teaching .

~ Katie

[Chas.]

Wrong, I see the Buddha in my own mind reflected in the mirror of the Gohonzon with my own eyes. You are just spouting words whic you do not understand that have been fed to you by the Shinto statue-worshiping priests of Nichiren Shu.

When you worship your statues of the false deity you have idolized in the physical form of the man called Shakyamuni 3000 years ago, what do you see reflected? Your boyish nature? What?

And as for ignoring Nichiren Daishonin's words regarding the who is the eternal Buddha, read the following once more:
__________________________________________________

________ Slanders of the eternal Buddha __________

Once again, that quote from ARBN:

||| "A Nichiren Buddhist priest that I recently met in Japan
||| said that there were around 50 Nikko sects and SGI and
||| Nichiren Shoshu are only 2 of them and there around 500
||| Nichiren Shu sects. I reckon he'd be right by the amount
||| of temples I visited. Some of the Nichiren Shu and Nikko
||| temples had Nichiren placed directly in front of the
||| Gohonzon. The deity's in the temple grounds and inside
||| their temples of the Pure land, Shingon, Shinto and Zen are
||| the same as the deity's we have in our Gohonzons but in 3D
||| up to about 20m in Height ..."

It is unimaginable that people could read the Gosho quote down below and still not understand what Nichiren Daishonin states clearly: the original Buddha is named Myoho-Renge, and not named Shakyamuni, Nichiren Daishonin, anyone or anything else.

The treachery of the Five Senior Priests who founded Nichiren Shu and converted Nichiren Daishonin's practice of Buddhism into a syncretic Shinto statue-worshiping deist faith has now led to this treasonous view by a denizen of ARBN:

||| I have considered the recipients of Nichiren's writings to
||| be a key factor, or rather, an important element regarding
||| the *meaning* conveyed. Nichiren wrote about the Gohonzon
||| to disciples and lay followers whom he had taught for
||| almost two decades; all of whom grasped the doctrines
||| Nichiren himself established for propagating
||| Myoho-renge-kyo in this latter age.
|||
||| Do you, Chas, accept and believe the preceding 18 years of
||| Nichiren's teachings , written to these disciples and lay
||| followers? In those writings I find and provide passages
||| here, to establish that Nichiren himself taught the primacy
||| of the daimoku as " a complete explanation" of the Lotus
||| Sutra, and Shakyamuni as the true, eternal Buddha. Since
||| you have dismissed the basic understanding ALL recipients
||| of Nichiren's writings most certainly had, how can you make
||| any determinations about the *meaning* expressed in the
||| Gosho?

First, let's hear what Nichiren Daishonin says on the subject.

From "The Entity of the Mystic Law", p. 420:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-30

... Question: The Great Teacher T'ien-t'ai has explained that
... the term Myoho-renge is used in two different senses, one
... meaning the entity of Myoho-renge and the other being
... figurative in meaning. What are these two kinds of renge,
... or lotus?
...
... Answer: The figurative renge, or lotus, is explained in
... detail in the three metaphors of the lotus blossom
... enfolding the seed, the lotus blossom opening to reveal the
... seed inside, and the lotus blossom falling and the
... seed ripening, so one should refer to them. The lotus that
... is the entity of Myoho-renge is explained in the seventh
... volume of The Profound Meaning of the Lotus Sutra as
>> follows: "RENGE, OR LOTUS, IS NOT A SYMBOL; IT IS THE
>> ACTUAL NAME OF THE ENTITY. For example, at the beginning
... of the kalpa of continuance, the various things in the
... world had no names. The sage observed the principles that
... govern them and on that basis made up names for them." He
... also writes: "Now the name renge is not intended as a
... symbol for anything. It is the teaching expounded in the
... Lotus Sutra. The teaching expounded in the Lotus Sutra is
... pure and undefiled and explains the subtleties of cause
... and effect. Therefore, it is called renge, or lotus. This
... name designates the true entity that the meditation based
... on the Lotus Sutra reveals, and is not a metaphor or
... figurative term."

Note the line, Myoho-Renge is "the actual name of the entity," the Entity of the Mystic Law.

"The entity" of the Mystic Law, BTW, is the original Buddha, the Buddha of Limitless Joy, the Buddha of Beginningless Time, the eternal Buddha, the Buddha of the original state, or the true Buddha: these are all the same.

However, "the entity" is clearly not named Shakyamuni Buddha NOR Nichiren Daishonin, in spite of their profound roles in manifesting the enlightenement of the Lotus Sutra, preaching the Lotus Sutra and leading the Kosen Rufu endeavour to spread it widely.

Myoho-Renge is the entity of eternal enlightenment, not named after someone who practiced Brahmanism (Shakyamuni) or Amida Buddhism (Nichiren Daishonin) earlier in their life. These are real people, who emerge from the impurities of the Saha World and attain enlightenment through the Lotus Sutra alone, and no other practice (in fact, in spite of other grievous slanders of the Law.)

We all manifest Myoho-Renge when we chant the daimoku: when we give voice to the eternal truth of the Law. However, all common mortals are two, but not two, both deluded and enlightened: we are the true Buddha.

Myoho-Renge is always pure and true, never off the mark from beginning to end. This is why we don't worship human beings or statues manifesting their visage or the aspect of their impermanence: we would not want to repeat their errors.

One of the errors that neither Shakyamuni nor Nichiren Daishonin are known for is the error of the kind of preening arrogance that would be in any way comfortable with being worshiped like a Hindu god, and certainly not as God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth in some traditionally deifying sense.

Shakyamuni and Nichiren Daishonin must suffer greatly at the slanders of sincere followers misled by the corrupted priests of Nichiren Shu and the Nikko sects as described at the top quote regarding statue worship of them: being hoisted up and placed in front of the Gohonzon.

According to the Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings: the Lotus Sutra in the Parable of the Phantom City chapter identifies the eternal Buddha (the Buddha of Limitless Joy, AKA the Buddha of Beginningless Time) as the grandfather of Shakyamuni, who as one of the sixteen princes, was the son of Great Universal Wisdom Excellence Thus Come One, who was the son of "the grandfather".

http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/ott/PART-1/7#para-15

>> The Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings says: IN
>> THIS PASSAGE WE LEARN ABOUT THE BUDDHA OF THE ORIGINAL
>> STATE [THAT IS, THE BUDDHA OF LIMITLESS JOY]. "GRANDFATHER"
>> IS ANOTHER NAME FOR THE DHARMA-REALM. The first three of
... the ten factors listed in the "Expedient Means" chapter,
... the factors of appearance, nature, and entity, are referred
... to as "grandfather." Outside of these three factors, there
... is no wheel-turning sage king.
...
... The word "wheel-turning" refers to the phases of birth,
... abiding, change, and extinction. The words "sage king"
... refer to the element of the mind. These three factors,
... appearance, nature, and entity, are the father and mother
... of all the Buddhas of the three existences of past,
... present, and future.
...
... Now, when Nichiren and his followers chant
... Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, they are acting as father and mother
... of the Buddhas of the three existences, as their
... grandfather, the wheel-turning sage king.

The followers of the 5 Senior Priests of Nichiren Shu consider the Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings to ALSO BE FAKED (because its view of Buddhism would disallow statue worship and funeral Buddhism), but once again, the Gosho in many places AND THE CORE OF THE LOTUS SUTRA ITSELF, confirms this view.

That passage refers to this one, the one and only reference to "the grandfather", where his son, who is the father of 16th son Shakyamuni, Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, attains enlightenment when "the Law of the buddhas finally appeared before him". This from the mouth of Shakyamuni Buddha, himself:

The Parable of the Phantom City, LS-7, pp 156-157:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/7#para-35

... "Now, monks, THE BUDDHA GREAT UNIVERSAL WISDOM EXCELLENCE
... PASSED TEN SMALL KALPAS BEFORE THE LAW OF THE BUDDHAS
... FINALLY APPEARED BEFORE HIM AND HE ATTAINED SUPREME
... PERFECT ENLIGHTENMENT. Before this buddha left the

... householder's life, he had sixteen sons, the first of whom
... was named Wisdom Accumulated. These sons each had various
... kinds of rare objects and toys of one kind or another, but
... when they heard that their father had attained supreme
... perfect enlightenment, they all threw aside their rare
... objects and went to where the buddha was. Their mothers,
... weeping, followed after them.
...
... "Their grandfather, who was a wheel-turning sage king,
... along with a hundred chief ministers, as well as a
... hundred, thousand, ten thousand, million of his subjects,
... all together surrounded the sons and followed them to the
... place of enlightenment, all wishing to draw close to the
... thus come one Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, to offer
... alms, pay honor, venerate, and praise him. When they
... arrived, they bowed before his feet, touching their heads
... to the ground.

Since the "grandfather" was the father of the Buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence, who was the father of the 16th son who later became Shakyamuni Buddha, and because the Buddha Great Universal Wisdom Excellence attained enlightenment prior to Shakyamuni, this is evidence from the one and only earliest timeline from the Lotus Sutra, that Shakyamuni Buddha was NOT the name of the Buddha of the original state.

In fact, anyone attaining enlightenment on any timeline for the first time cannot be named as the Buddha of the original state, who is enlightened from beginningless time, which is off the end of every timeline and not actually part of any history.

The "grandfather" is anonymous in the Lotus Sutra. The "grandfather" has no time associated with his enlightenment, or assignment of any progenitor and Nichiren Daishonin assigns him as primogenitor in that passage from the Record of the Orally Transmitted Teachings, as the first: the "Buddha of the original state."

Aside from that, who knows, I don't. As far as I can tell, the eternal Buddha has no other person identified as such in the Lotus Sutra. Shakyamuni attained enlightenment after his father Great Universal Wisdom Excellence and unnamed grandfather with no date for his attainment of the enlightenment.

At any rate, who was first hardly matters, unless you want to worship a statue or image of the first enlightened one. I certainly don't want to worship or pray to any statues of anyone.

I am satisfied that the Buddha leading the army of the Bodhisattvas of the Earth is Nichiren Daishonin, also known as Jogyo Superior Practices. He is the mentor whose Gosho I have made my mentor, because our general, Ikeda Sensei asked me too. I practice as Nichiren Daishonin says and only that way. I worship no person and images of any person.

Continuing, another challenge from a follower of the Nichiren Shu icchantikas/issendai:

||| You, Chas, claim to be practicing Nichiren's teachings- do
||| you not? Then please explain why you cannot believe
||| thousands of passages written in Nichiren's own hand, such
||| as:
|||
||| "Now, when the Eternal Buddha has revealed in the essential
||| section of the Lotus Sutra, this world of endurance
||| (Saha-world) became the Eternal Pure Land, indestructible
||| even by the three calamities of conflagration, flooding,
||| and strong winds, which are said to destroy the world. It
||| transcends the four periods of cosmic change: the kalpa of
||| construction, continuance, destruction and emptiness.
||| Sakaymuni Buddha, the Lord-preacher of this pure and, has
||| never died in the past, nor will He be born in the future.
||| He exists forever throughout the past present and future.
||| All those who receive His GUIDANCE are one with the Eternal
||| Buddha." - Nichiren, "The True Object of Worship".
|||
||| Now, you are interpreting the Lotus Sutra- in an effort to
||| support your SGIkeda's claim that Nichiren, not Shakyamuni
||| is the True, Original Buddha!! By doing this you are also
||| dismissing Nichiren's own statements referencing his
||| identity as the Buddha's envoy, the only one who can
||| understand the "entity of the Lotus"--So, YOU, Chas claim
||| to be --what? the envoy of the Buddha you have demoted?? Or
||| are you just a parrot for SGIkeda's lies??
|||
||| To summarize, I practice Nichiren's Lotus Sutra Buddhism. I
||| regard Nichiren as the ONE teacher for this latter age. I
||| believe the words Nichiren has used to describe himself,
||| Shakyamuni Buddha and the Lotus Sutra--Since, you, Chas do
||| not produce evidence for your assertions from Nichiren's
||| own hand, you are not qualified to call yourself a follower
||| of Nichiren-- in fact, you have clearly shown yourself to
||| be a follower of Ikeda, whose errors have been exposed here
||| and elsewhere , whilst your Top leaders refuse to engage in
||| public debate to settle the matters you continue to parrot
||| here!!

This is yet another bad translation of the Gosho, by corrupted statue-worshiping priests of Nichiren Shu. Note the absence of the term "Eternal Buddha" in the correct translation below, that phrase having been doctored by Nichiren Shu slandering priests in their corrupted translation.

Shakyamuni was of course manifesting Myoho-Renge, his true self and at the highest condition of human existence when he was preaching the Juryo chapter.

But his name was Shakyamuni, not Myoho-Renge, which is "the actual name of the entity" according to Nichiren Daishonin.

From "The Object of Devotion for Observing the Mind Established in the Fifth Five-Hundred-Year Period after the Thus Come One's Passing -Nichiren, the shramana of Japan", WND I, p. 366 ... once again, noting the total absence of calling Shakyamuni the "eternal Buddha":
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/39#para-70

... First, at his place of enlightenment, Shakyamuni Buddha
... [preached the Flower Garland Sutra in which he] revealed
... the Lotus Treasury World. In the following fifty years,
... until he entered nirvana in the grove of sal trees,
... Shakyamuni preached about the lands of the various Buddhas,
... such as the Lotus Treasury World and the Land of Secret
... Solemnity [in the Secret Solemnity Sutra], revealed the
... three kinds of lands when he three times purified countless
... lands [in the theoretical teaching of the Lotus Sutra], and
... revealed the four kinds of lands according to the four
... different views [in the Nirvana Sutra]. These lands—the
... Land of Transition, the Land of Actual Reward, and the Land
... of Tranquil Light; the Land of Peace and Sustenance, the
... Pure Emerald World, the Land of Secret Solemnity, and the
... lands of all the other Buddhas—are transient lands that
... change in the course of the kalpas of formation,
... [continuance, decline, and disintegration]. The Buddhas of
... these lands had been magically conjured by Shakyamuni
... Buddha, and when the lord of teachings entered nirvana, all
... these Buddhas likewise entered extinction. In the same way,
... their lands also vanished.
...
... The sahā world Shakyamuni Buddha revealed in the "Life
... Span" chapter is the eternal pure land, impervious to the
... three calamities and to the cycle of the four kalpas. The
... Buddha neither has entered into extinction in the past nor
... will be born in the future. And the same is true of his
... disciples. This means that their lives are perfectly
... endowed with the three thousand worlds, that is, with the
... three realms of existence. The Buddha did not reveal this
... truth in the theoretical teaching, or the first fourteen
... chapters, of the Lotus Sutra because the time was not right
... and the people's capacity was not yet developed.
...
... Shakyamuni Buddha did not transmit the five characters of
... Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, the heart of the essential teaching of
... the Lotus Sutra, even to the bodhisattvas Manjushrī and
... Medicine King, let alone to any lesser disciples. He
... summoned from beneath the earth the great bodhisattvas as
... numerous as the dust particles of a thousand worlds and, as
... he preached the eight chapters, transferred it solely to
... them.

Finally, a piece of logic related to time itself, and that logic is irrefutable.

Beginningless time is before any finite point in the past on the timeline, such as when Shakyamuni attained enlightenment. From the Lotus Sutra, chapter 16, starting with the critical phrase "Ga hon gyo bosatsu do":
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Content/16#para-14

... originally I practiced the bodhisattva way,
... and the life span that I acquired then has
... yet to come to an end but will last twice
... the number of years that have already passed.

A finite time in the past, which is half the time of a future point, can not possibly be the locus known as "beginningless time", which is off the timeline. The eternal Buddha's enlightened life crosses before, during and after every point on the timeline, which is why the adjective "eternal" is applied.

Shakyamuni, in his complete honesty, declared that he attained enlightenment under another Buddha and implicitly therefore that Shakyamuni is not the name of the eternal Buddha, as the Nichiren Shu and it's plausibly deniable legion of SGI attackers erroneously believe. You cannot deny what the Lotus Sutra says, Shakyamuni is not the name of the eternal Buddha, anymore than anyone's impermanent name is. That name is Myoho-Renge.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

Wrong Chas! I am sharing from my own practice of faith -/ and backing it up with documentary proof : The Lotus Sutra and Nichiren's authentic writing to Sairen-bo.

You spit distortions from pure ignorance and behave like a mad man !!

~Katie

[Chas.]

Apparently your documentary proof from the Lotus Sutra and the Gosho are in your mind more real than the quotes I give you from literally dozens of Goshos.

It's just astonishing how confused your mind is.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

I suggest you review the prime point of Nichiren's teachings ; have a good look at the chapters of the Lotus Sutra Nichiren recommended for daily recitation ; stop and consider that Nichiren continued the practice of reciting the Lotus Sutra until his passing -- You certainly aren't the first and only SGIKEDA-bot who has no idea what you are saying when you do "Gongyo "-- As I recall , your mentor teaches this knowledge is not necessary-/ just " do the practice l-😄And "develop a relationship with him:Ikeda"!!

~ Katie

[Chas.]

It is clearly true that what anyone practices is much more important than their state of mind when they practice it. There is no "mind over slander" in Nichiren Buddhism: actions speak louder than ideals according to the strict law of cause and effect.

You cannot defeat what you bow to. Hence Mr. Toda's statement regarding a slanderous temple: "I would not bend over to tie my shoe in front of it."

Hence, the crucial importance of Nichiren Daishonin's points regarding slander of the Law in the "Entity of the Mystic Law", one of the Goshos you and your Shinto statue-worshiping and Shakyamuni-deifying ilk of the Nichiren Shu bitterly hate.

I have upper-cased Nichiren Daishonin's points undermining your distortions of Buddhism in the passage below.

From "The Entity of the Mystic Law", WND I, pp. 417-419:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-7

... Question: If the entity of all living beings is the Mystic
... Law in its entirety, then are all the actions and their
... results that are associated with the nine worlds, from the
... world of hell up to that of bodhisattvas, in effect
... entities of the Mystic Law?
...
... Answer: The mystic principle that is the essential nature
... of phenomena possesses two aspects, the defiled aspect and
... the pure aspect. IF THE DEFILED ASPECT IS OPERATIVE, THIS
... IS CALLED DELUSION. IF THE PURE ASPECT IS OPERATIVE, THIS
... IS CALLED ENLIGHTENMENT. ENLIGHTENMENT CONSTITUTES THE
... REALM OF BUDDHAHOOD. DELUSION CONSTITUTES THE REALMS OF
... ORDINARY MORTALS.
...
... These two aspects, the deluded and the enlightened, are
... indeed two different phenomena, and yet both are workings
... of the one principle, that is, the essential nature of
... phenomena, or the true aspect of reality. IT IS LIKE A
... PIECE OF CRYSTAL. IF THE CRYSTAL IS PLACED IN THE SUN’S
... RAYS, IT WILL ATTRACT THEM AND PRODUCE FIRE. BUT IF IT IS
... PLACED IN THE MOON’S RAYS, IT WILL PRODUCE WATER. THE
... CRYSTAL IS A SINGLE ENTITY, BUT THE EFFECTS IT PRODUCES
... DIFFER ACCORDING TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
...
... The mystic principle of the true aspect of reality is like
... this. THE MYSTIC PRINCIPLE OF THE TRUE ASPECT OF REALITY IS
... ONE, BUT IF IT ENCOUNTERS EVIL INFLUENCES, IT WILL MANIFEST
... DELUSION, WHILE IF IT ENCOUNTERS GOOD INFLUENCES, IT WILL
... MANIFEST ENLIGHTENMENT. Enlightenment means enlightenment
... to the essential nature of phenomena, and delusion,
... ignorance of it.
...
... It is like the case of a person who in a dream sees himself
... performing various good and evil actions. AFTER HE WAKES UP
... AND CONSIDERS THE MATTER, HE REALIZES THAT IT WAS ALL A
... DREAM PRODUCED BY HIS OWN MIND. THIS MIND OF HIS
... CORRESPONDS TO THE SINGLE PRINCIPLE OF THE ESSENTIAL NATURE
... OF PHENOMENA, THE TRUE ASPECT OF REALITY, WHILE THE GOOD
... AND EVIL THAT APPEARED IN THE DREAM CORRESPOND TO
... ENLIGHTENMENT AND DELUSION. When one becomes aware of this,
... it is clear that one should discard the ignorance
... associated with evil and delusion, and take as one’s basis
... the awakening that is characterized by goodness and
... enlightenment.
...
... The Complete and Final Teaching on Perfect Enlightenment
... Sutra declares, “THE BEGINNINGLESS ILLUSIONS AND IGNORANCE
... THAT BESET ALL LIVING BEINGS ARE ALL PRODUCED BY THE
... PERFECTLY ENLIGHTENED MIND OF THE THUS COME ONES.”
...
... The Great Teacher T’ien-t’ai in his Great Concentration and
... Insight states, “Ignorance or illusions are in themselves
... enlightenment to the essential nature of phenomena. BUT DUE
... TO THE INFLUENCE OF DELUSIONS, ENLIGHTENMENT CHANGES INTO
... IGNORANCE.” The Great Teacher Miao-lo comments on this as
... follows: “Enlightenment has no separate entity but
... completely depends upon ignorance; and ignorance has no
... separate entity but completely depends upon enlightenment.”
...
... IGNORANCE IS A STATE OF DELUSION THAT MUST BE CUT OFF,
... WHEREAS ENLIGHTENMENT IS THE STATE THAT ONE MUST MANIFEST.
... How then can we say that they are a single entity? To
... resolve doubts on this point, one should have a clear grasp
... of the passages that have been quoted here. The example of
... the dream given in the ninety-fifth volume of The Treatise
... on the Great Perfection of Wisdom and the T’ien-t’ai
... school’s example of the piece of crystal cited above are
... very interesting illustrations.
... [Note 7: This example appears in T’ien-t’ai’s Great
... Concentration and Insight. Hence the expression “T’ien-t’ai
... school” is used to mean the Great Teacher T’ien-t’ai, the
... founder of the Chinese T’ien-t’ai school.]

{{This means, Katie and Mark, he is not saying Tendai for a reason!}}]

Continuing the same passage from "The Entity of the Mystic Law,":

... Further proof of the truth that ignorance and enlightenment
... are one in essence is found in the passage in the Lotus
... Sutra that reads, “These phenomena are part of an abiding
... Law, [and] the characteristics of the world are constantly
... abiding.” Great Perfection of Wisdom says, “ENLIGHTENMENT
... AND IGNORANCE ARE NOT DIFFERENT THINGS, NOT SEPARATE
... THINGS. TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED THE MIDDLE WAY.”
...
... There are many passages of proof asserting that the mystic
... principle of the true aspect of reality possesses two
... aspects, the defiled and the pure. But none can surpass the
... one in the Flower Garland Sutra that says, “THE MIND, THE
... BUDDHA, AND ALL LIVING BEINGS—THESE THREE THINGS ARE
... WITHOUT DISTINCTION,” OR THE PASSAGE IN THE LOTUS SUTRA
... THAT DESCRIBES THE TRUE ASPECT OF ALL PHENOMENA.

{{Katie and Mark, he is referring here to the passages from the Sutra of Immeasurable Meanings, which are preached during the first chapter of the Lotus Sutra:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/Prologue/2#para-9 }}

Continuing the same passage from "The Entity of the Mystic Law,":

... The Great Teacher Nan-yüeh says, “The entity of the mind is
... endowed with two aspects, the defiled and the pure.
... However, it does not have two different forms but is single
... in nature and without distinction.” And the example of the
... mirror [Note 10: The example of the mirror is expounded in
... Mahayana Method of Concentration and Insight. Through the
... example of the inseparable relationship between an object
... and its image reflected in the mirror, NAN-YÜEH REVEALS
... THAT A LIVING BEING AND A BUDDHA ARE “TWO BUT NOT TWO” IN
... ESSENCE; IN OTHER WORDS, COMMON MORTALS OF THE NINE WORLDS
... ARE INHERENTLY ENDOWED WITH BUDDHAHOOD.] that he gives
... truly presents a thorough explanation of the subject. For a
... more detailed understanding, one may also refer to his
... interpretations in The Mahayana Method of Concentration and
... Insight.
...
... Another good explanation is given in the sixth volume of
... Miao-lo’s Annotations on “The Profound Meaning of the Lotus
... Sutra,” in the passage that reads: “WHILE THE THREE
... THOUSAND REALMS REMAIN LATENT [IN ORDINARY BEINGS], THEY
... ARE ALL DESIGNATED BY THE TERM ‘IGNORANCE.’ BUT WHEN THE
... THREE THOUSAND REALMS ALL MANIFEST THEMSELVES AS THE RESULT
... [OF BUDDHAHOOD], THEN THEY ARE ALL DESIGNATED BY THE TERM
... ‘ETERNAL HAPPINESS.’ HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE THREE THOUSAND
... REALMS THEMSELVES REMAIN UNCHANGED, IGNORANCE IS
... ESSENTIALLY ONE WITH ENLIGHTENMENT. SINCE THE THREE
... THOUSAND REALMS ALL REMAIN CONSTANT, THEY POSSESS BOTH
... ENTITY AND FUNCTION.” This commentary makes the matter
... perfectly clear.

I feel confident in presuming you will ignore all of this advice from the sages you hate. However it stands as a rebuttal to your ignorance in all of its aspects.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

FYI Chas / the " practice" Nichiren taught is predicated on " the MIND of FAITH in the LOTUS SUTRA " --

Truly and clearly you have missed the boat entirely !!

And actually your confusion and oft times crude comments demonstrate the effects of incorrect practice on the MIND.

~Katie

[Noel]

As is explained here

[Katie Higgins]

Ditto for Noel - maybe reread " on Correct Conremplation"- letter to Sairen-bo , the Tendai priest who converted to Nichiren's teachings on Sado--

Before you guys get all pumped with your accusations -- better check the crucial importance of the " single mind of faith" and the focus of the mind of faith on the Lotus Sutra

~Katie

[Chas.]

He also admonished against slanderous practices. Having the mind of faith in the Lotus Sutra while chanting the Nembutsu to large statues of Amida will not earn you a choice spot in the heavenly realm of the Western Kingdom, Katie, it earns you kalpas of suffering in Avichi Hell.

You can't ignore Nichiren Daishonin's admonitions against slander of the Law and expect to practice the way you want, Katie, you are not "the decider" of what is Law and what is slander.

-Chas.

[Katie Higgins]

You have yet to point out specifically which teaching of Nichiren's I disregard --

You have been shown over a hundred of the thousand passages where Nichiren specifically identifies SHAKYAMUNI as the true Buddha and the Lotus Sutra as the highest teaching- still insulting me for believing Nichiren.

Maybe amongst all of the critical basic elements of Nichiren's that you disregard , you have no idea what constitutes slander of the Law, as Nichiren himself defined it .

~Katie

[Chas.]

I have answered that in response to your questions (you rarely if ever respond in detail to mine, and that appears as fearful):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren/rHRG5-XkBiU/dJMdrqNpCAAJ

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 8:13:27 AM UTC-7, Katie Higgins wrote:
> Funny / the path Nichiren lived , is extant in authentic documentation from the beginning to the end-- those who want to follow Nichiren are primarily concerned with his actual words , the Lotus Sutra and the True Buddha, Shakyamuni.
>
> Now , if either of you can produce clear evidence on Nichiren's own words that he :
> 1) discarded any passage if the Lotus Sutra.
> 2) Named a Buddha of higher position than Shakyamuni .
> 3) Stated that he was transmitting his true teachings in some secret obscure manner that would not come to light until 100 plus years after his passing --
>
> IF. You produce such passages and they meet all standards for attributing them to Nichiren, you will have provided some explanation for your disrespect and nasty pronouncements .
>
> Typos in last comment are partially due to iPhone mishaps and also a product of being in the middle of my 6 night shift in a row stretch which comes around every other week !
>
> Meanwhile , I assure you that the evidence of my correct faith and practice continues to be reflected in the work I perform and the life that I lead . Just sayin- your pronouncements and criticisms don't correlate with my actual proof.
>
> ~ Katie

1) I have shown you the page where Nichiren Daishonin declares that none of the golden words of the Lotus Sutra are to be discarded, whether in the theoretical first half or the essential second half (read the whole page 978 of WND I):
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/134#para-10

2) And below is where Nichiren Daishonin declares that the actual name of the entity is "Myoho-Renge".

In fact, everywhere in the Gosho Zenshu where he says to chant Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, instead of Nam-Shakuson-Butsu or Nam-Shakamuni-Butsu, is where he declares that the actual name of the entity IS NOT one of the Japanese names Shakuson or Shakamuni.

-From "The Entity of the Mystic Law", p. 420:
http://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/47#para-30

.. Question: The Great Teacher T'ien-t'ai has explained that

.. the term Myoho-renge is used in two different senses, one
.. meaning the entity of Myoho-renge and the other being
.. figurative in meaning. What are these two kinds of renge,

.. or lotus?
..

.. Answer: The figurative renge, or lotus, is explained in
.. detail in the three metaphors of the lotus blossom
.. enfolding the seed, the lotus blossom opening to reveal the
.. seed inside, and the lotus blossom falling and the
.. seed ripening, so one should refer to them. The lotus that
.. is the entity of Myoho-renge is explained in the seventh
.. volume of The Profound Meaning of the Lotus Sutra as
> follows: "RENGE, OR LOTUS, IS NOT A SYMBOL; IT IS THE
> ACTUAL NAME OF THE ENTITY. For example, at the beginning
.. of the kalpa of continuance, the various things in the
.. world had no names. The sage observed the principles that
.. govern them and on that basis made up names for them." He
.. also writes: "Now the name renge is not intended as a
.. symbol for anything. It is the teaching expounded in the
.. Lotus Sutra. The teaching expounded in the Lotus Sutra is
.. pure and undefiled and explains the subtleties of cause
.. and effect. Therefore, it is called renge, or lotus. This
.. name designates the true entity that the meditation based
.. on the Lotus Sutra reveals, and is not a metaphor or

.. figurative term."

-Note the line, Myoho-Renge is "the actual name of the entity," the Entity of the Mystic Law.

-"The entity" of the Mystic Law, BTW, is the original Buddha, the Buddha of Limitless Joy, the Buddha of Beginningless Time, the eternal Buddha, the Buddha of the original state, or the true Buddha: these are all the same.

-However, "the entity" is clearly not named Shakyamuni Buddha NOR Nichiren Daishonin, in spite of their profound roles in manifesting the enlightenement of the Lotus Sutra, preaching the Lotus Sutra and leading the Kosen Rufu endeavour to spread it widely.

-Myoho-Renge is the entity of eternal enlightenment, not named after someone who practiced Brahmanism (Shakyamuni) or Amida Buddhism (Nichiren Daishonin) earlier in their life. These are real people, who emerge from the impurities of the Saha World and attain enlightenment through the Lotus Sutra alone, and no other practice (in fact, in spite of other grievous slanders of the Law.)

-We all manifest Myoho-Renge when we chant the daimoku: when we give voice to the eternal truth of the Law. However, all common mortals are two, but not two, both deluded and enlightened: we are the true Buddha.

-Myoho-Renge is always pure and true, never off the mark from beginning to end. This is why we don't worship human beings or statues manifesting their visage or the aspect of their impermanence: we would not want to repeat their errors.

-One of the errors that neither Shakyamuni nor Nichiren Daishonin are known for is the error of the kind of preening arrogance that would be in any way comfortable with being worshiped like a Hindu god, and certainly not as God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth in some traditionally deifying sense.

-Shakyamuni and Nichiren Daishonin must suffer greatly at the slanders of sincere followers misled by the corrupted priests of Nichiren Shu and the Nikko sects as described at the top quote regarding statue worship of them: being hoisted up and placed in front of the Gohonzon.

3) None of the Gosho Zenshu has ever been secret or obscure, it did, however take some efforts to collect all the letters from all the sources.

-Chas.

[Noel]

The truth is simply harmoniously complex

[Katie Higgins]

Disputed Gosho and incorrect translation is all you provided / have you studied the main corpus of Nichitens writings ? Seems all you ever do is post cherry picks from your short list of "doctored " writings.
Complete study in this evil age includes classification of the Gosho and familiarity with the Tendai writings Nichiren refuted yet you cling to .
~Katie

[Chas.]

I have posted quotes from no less than 50 or more different Goshos, but there is no pleasing the corrupted minds. However diverse my peregrinations through the Gosho, when I find passages that conflict with your Shinto statue-worshiping deification of Shakyamuni as a Hindu god, or rather God Almighty creator of Heaven and Earth ... those Goshos are then declared suspect by you.

Perhaps it is your corrupted views that are suspect?

-Chas.