Part 2- Those on Paul & Jan Crouch's TBN Program "Praise the Lord"
Dana Sindell
(the Trinity Broadcasting Network). These are the ones whom are
most contriversal on their Praise the Lord TV program:
Bob Shambach
Benny Hinn
Steve Brock
LaVerne Tripp
Walt Mills
I am sure many of you have some great stories about any of these yokles.
Walt Mills is a Gospel singer who has be around for years, wears really
expensive clothes (including Italian Leather shoes), a Rolex wristwatch
and expensive jeweled rings. One time, he was wearing all this stuff
and begging for money for his ministry. He stated (the line they all
seen to use) "And if you give to this ministry, God will richly
bless you." He has a website and a place for comments. I sent him
a messege a number of months ago to stop begging for money and just
sell his expensive clothes and jewelry and he will have lots of
money for his ministry. I wonder if he ever read it?
As you probably know, Steve Brock is the Gospel singer on TBN who also
now assists in Benny Hinn's healing crusades (I guess he needed the
extra money!) He always cries about the death of one of his two sons,
in an automobile accident, shortly after being saved on TBN.
He states he was going to commit suicide, when he telephoned Jan Crouch,
she prayed with him in tongues, and he felt much better.
LaVerne Trip is just strange. He is a Southern Gospel singer who
has been on TBN for a number of years and whom I saw, about 6 years
ago, after appearing at Benny Hinn's church in Orlando, FL, LaVerne
was buisy greedily counting his money from the sales of his Gospel\
cassettes.
The wierdest one I have seen on that show is Bill Morris, the leader of
the Praise the Lord choir in Branson, MO, and formerly a backup singer
for Dottie Rambo. He has long hair, a beard, sings flat, and wears
outlandish clothes! On a New Years Eve broadcast TBN did about two
years ago, Bill was wearing sequined reading glasses, and a silver
striped outfit that resembled a clown's outfit from the circus.
Anyone else out there have any stories or reactions to any of these
I have mentioned, or anyone else on TBN?
-Dana
Elder Perm Poom
da...@aristotle.net (Dana Sindell) wrote:
> Walt Mills is a Gospel singer who has be around for years, wears really
> expensive clothes (including Italian Leather shoes), a Rolex wristwatch
> and expensive jeweled rings.
> LaVerne Trip is just strange.
> The wierdest one I have seen on that show is Bill Morris, the leader of
> the Praise the Lord choir in Branson, MO, and formerly a backup singer
> for Dottie Rambo. He has long hair, a beard, sings flat, and wears
> outlandish clothes! On a New Years Eve broadcast TBN did about two
> years ago, Bill was wearing sequined reading glasses, and a silver
> striped outfit that resembled a clown's outfit from the circus.
What are you, the Fashion Police? Do you have any objection
to these people's theology, or is your concern entirely with
how they dress? Please post a photo of yourself in various
outfits (daytime, evening, Fall, Spring, etc) so we can
have an idea of your justification for criticizing other
people's wardrobes.
Wouldn't you be surprised if you got to Heaven and God was
wearing stripes with plaids and blue pants with brown shoes!
Blessings
Elder Perm Poom
The First Internet McChurch Tabernacle
http://www.mcchurch.com
Dana Sindell
was writing about. I do not care how these people on TBN
dress- like you say, I am not a fashion critic.
What I was writing about- and Gospel singer Walt Mills is
a great example of this- Why do these people who are wearing
expensive clothing and jewels, plus Rolex wristwatches (which
retail for at least $2000) go crying on television for
people who are watching their program to send them money.
I personally give to my local church and to organizations
like Feed The Children or Heifer Project- both of which
are humanitarian Christian organizations to feed the starving
persons of the world. I think money is better sent to organizations
like these, rather than help some yokle buy more expensive clothing
or maybe a yacht.
Do you understand now what I am writing about? Are we still friends?
-Dana
perm...@mcchurch.com (Elder Perm Poom) wrote in message news:<permpoom-011...@206.225.65.129>...
Elder Perm Poom
> What I was writing about- and Gospel singer Walt Mills is
> a great example of this- Why do these people who are wearing
> expensive clothing and jewels, plus Rolex wristwatches (which
> retail for at least $2000) go crying on television for
> people who are watching their program to send them money.
Here you go Scotties! Have at it. Time to trot out the
"all things to the one who taught ya" teachin's. Or does
that just apply to old Gene-0?
Blessings
Elder Perm Poom
The First Internet McChurch Tabernacle
http://www.mcchurch.com
P.S. I see fashions like the ones you are talking about at
the Fox Hills Mall and on the streets of Inglewood. That
$2k wristwatch may very well be a $20 knockoff.
Dana Sindell
Gene Scott (who I have not watched on TV for years). From what
I saw back then, he looked strange, also; however, that was years
ago and I vaguely remember.
By the way, what do you think about Benny Hinn? Do you think he
is legitimate, or some type of phoney. He claims to have inherited
Kathryn Khulman's ministry of healing crusades. He when he lays
hands on people to pray for their healing, they fall down on the floor
(he calls it "being slain in the Spirit"). Is that legitimate?
-Dana
perm...@mcchurch.com (Elder Perm Poom) wrote in message news:<permpoom-021...@206.225.65.132>...
Elder Perm Poom
> I don't know who "old Gene-O" is- unless you are referring to
> Gene Scott (who I have not watched on TV for years). From what
> I saw back then, he looked strange, also; however, that was years
> ago and I vaguely remember.
That's him. He now has married an ex-Playboy bunny and cavorts
in hot tubs with her on TV. He has a Rolls Royce, smokes imported
cigars, and has a stable full of fabulously expensive show horses.
He hollers if he doesn't get enough money from his congregation.
You would have a field day with him. He makes Paul and Jan look
like they are wearing hair shirts in the wilderness!
> By the way, what do you think about Benny Hinn? Do you think he
> is legitimate, or some type of phoney. He claims to have inherited
> Kathryn Khulman's ministry of healing crusades. He when he lays
> hands on people to pray for their healing, they fall down on the floor
> (he calls it "being slain in the Spirit"). Is that legitimate?
I really don't know because I haven't been slain lately, but
stranger things have happened. If the Pope bopped someone on
the forehead and they fell back in a swoon, no one would
bat an eyelash, but if a greasy olive skinned guy with a bad
toupee and a sharkskin suit does it on TV, no one believes it.
Go figure. I guess clothes do make the man in some people's
minds.
I really don't see any difference between the Pope, Benny
Hinn, George Bush and Michael Jackson. God could choose to
use any one of them without my permission or approval.
I try not to comment on the validity of people's hearts. I've
been wrong before, so I wouldn't presume to judge. God might
think Benny Hinn is a real laugh riot. I wouldn't put it past
Him to work through a joker like that just for the novelty
value. It would sure sort out the folks who judge based solely
on surface appearance fast.
Imagine this... You die and go to Heaven. But Heaven isn't
pearly gates and angels with harps... It's a TRAILER PARK!
And God wears a baseball hat backwards, has mustard stains
on his t-shirt from the weenie roast, and is too fat for
his shorts. Would you turn around and leave?
I guess this really doesn't answer your question. But you
ask a question that I'm not in a position to know the answer
to. If you want to ask me if giving money to Benny Hinn or
Gene Scott is a good idea, I will be happy to venture an
opinion on that. But I can't tell you what they believe
deep down inside. All I can do is assume that they are
like me... a sinner saved by grace. How 'bout chew?
Jon Volkoff
> I really don't see any difference between the Pope, Benny
> Hinn, George Bush and Michael Jackson. God could choose to
> use any one of them without my permission or approval.
> I try not to comment on the validity of people's hearts. I've
> been wrong before, so I wouldn't presume to judge. God might
> think Benny Hinn is a real laugh riot. I wouldn't put it past
> Him to work through a joker like that just for the novelty
> value. It would sure sort out the folks who judge based solely
> on surface appearance fast.
There is no such thing as a novelty to the God of the Bible. He foreknew
and thus has foreordained all His works from eternity. (Acts 15:18)
> Imagine this... You die and go to Heaven. But Heaven isn't
> pearly gates and angels with harps... It's a TRAILER PARK!
> And God wears a baseball hat backwards, has mustard stains
> on his t-shirt from the weenie roast, and is too fat for
> his shorts. Would you turn around and leave?
A nonsensical question, because this would not be Heaven nor Hell as
described in Scripture.
> I guess this really doesn't answer your question. But you
> ask a question that I'm not in a position to know the answer
> to. If you want to ask me if giving money to Benny Hinn or
> Gene Scott is a good idea, I will be happy to venture an
> opinion on that. But I can't tell you what they believe
> deep down inside. All I can do is assume that they are
> like me... a sinner saved by grace. How 'bout chew?
The best indication of what they believe is what they say and do.
"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree
bring forth good fruit." (Matthew 7:18)
If their fruits are unmistakably evil, then one must not assume that they
are saved by grace and regenerated. The Bible does not teach universal
salvation, but instead "few there be that find it." (Matthew 7:14)
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"...this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for
the remission of sins." (Matthew 26:28)
Elder Perm Poom
Jon Volkoff <vol...@eideticscorp.com> wrote:
> There is no such thing as a novelty to the God of the Bible.
Hogwash! Just look at the platypus and tell me with a straight
face that God doesn't amuse himself with novelties occasionally!
Jan Crouch is at least as amusing as a platypus!
> > Imagine this... You die and go to Heaven. But Heaven isn't
> > pearly gates and angels with harps... It's a TRAILER PARK!
>
> A nonsensical question, because this would not be Heaven nor Hell as
> described in Scripture.
In the ancient Greek "My kingdom has many mansions" mistranslated.
The Greek word for "Mansion" is very similar to the one for
"Double-Wide"... simple mistake.
> The best indication of what they believe is what they say and do.
> "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree
> bring forth good fruit." (Matthew 7:18)
How does your produce look today, Judge Jon?
"judge not, lest ye be judged" (You look it up)
Elder Perm Poom
Jon Volkoff <vol...@eideticscorp.com> wrote:
> Hogwash, yourself. You, of course, confuse what men consider novelties
> with what an omniscient God would consider a "novelty." Not the same
> league, bud.
Uh... Do you REALLY know that God created the Platypus without
a smile on His face?