Yahoo Group bahai-apologetics - Wikipedia - BCCA (Bahai Computer and Communication Association) > surveillance and censorship

[Baha'i Censorship - See Website]

The Yahoo Group bahai-apologetics appears to be used by the BCCA and
fundamentalist Baha'is to coordinate and marshal surveillance and censorship
of Baha'i related websites, discussion groups, encyclopedias, Usenet,
databases, and so forth.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bahai-apologetics/

The BCCA (Bahai Computer and Communication Association) has a long
history of censoring Baha'is on the Internet.

http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/BCCAmenu.htm

See also Mark Towfiq

http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Towfiq.htm

CAUTION *** Psychological War Zone *** Newcomers
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Caution.htm

--
Frederick Glaysher
The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/

[PaulHammond]

Baha'i Censorship - See Website wrote:
> The Yahoo Group bahai-apologetics appears to be used by the BCCA and
> fundamentalist Baha'is to coordinate and marshal surveillance and censorship
> of Baha'i related websites, discussion groups, encyclopedias, Usenet,
> databases, and so forth.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bahai-apologetics/
>
>

I'm confused, Fred. You accuse the Baha'is in this website,
specifically,
of "co-ordinating censorship" at the Wikipedia Baha'i articles - so I
go there to check it out - I've been involved in editing the Baha'i
articles at Wikipedia myself, and I wondered if, perhaps, I'd
see comments from some of the Baha'is I know there who helped
edit the articles, Occamy, Tomhab, Rick Boatright - and I found
it was a members only list, open only to Baha'is, and I couldn't
see any of the posts.

How do YOU know what has been discussed on this group, Fred,
are you a member?

(incidentally, it is impossible to censor info at Wikipedia -
it's an open-source editing project where anyone, even a
casual, unregistered reader, can edit a page if they find a
mistake, or think they can make an improvement)

So, what gives, Fred? What information do you actually have?

Paul

[sma...@jam.rr.com]

Dear Paul,

Baha'i-apolegetics is a Baha'i only list run by Mark Foster and myself.
When we are not completely off topic (which is usually) we discuss
possible counter-arguments to anti-Baha'i material. We do not engage in
surveillance and we cannot engage in censorship even if we wanted to.

Actually, there isn't much of anything going on there right now.

warmest, Susan

[PP PL]

Fred,

You are making unfounded accusations. Please provide evidence.

[sma...@jam.rr.com]

I should probably add that I don't recall us ever discussing the
Wikipedia on Baha'i Apologetics. Furthermore Bahai-apologetics, like
all the lists owned by Mark Foster, has no connection whatsoever to the
BCCA.

[PaulHammond]

I did notice that there was little traffic, although there were lots of
posts through April. The Baha'i articles at wikipedia were under
attack from a revert-warrior who was determined to post Baha'u'llah's
picture on *all* the Baha'i-related articles over there at the time.

Other (non-Baha'i) editors there closed down his sock puppets,
took him to arbitrartion pages over his vandalism, and refusal to
pay attention to the article talk-pages, and eventually he went
away.

Currently, Baha'u'llah's picture appears with a warning at the
bottom of the article about Baha'u'llah, and not on the Baha'i
Faith article - normal editing appears to have resumed at
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baha'i_Faith.

Still doesn't answer the question of how Freddie thinks he knows
what conspiracies are being hatched over at Baha'i Apologetics
when he can't read the messages there!

Paul