Dr. Rex Curry's historical discoveries are supported in runes & their meanings

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Tinny Ray

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Oct 27, 2006, 12:02:54 PM10/27/06
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Runes have been the subject of a lot of research, some focusing on
their influence upon in the history of religion and society. Some of
the work also examines their influence upon socialism and even upon
modern government. Those worries have relevance to the enormous size
and scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
http://rexcurry.net/guido-von-list-runes-swastika.html

Runes are a form of ancient alphabet, representing letters. Many runes
have been found in Germany. Researchers believe that the symbols were
related to religious beliefs in ancient Germany.

One of the most notorious runes is the rune that resembles and
corresponds to the letter "S" in ancient Germany.

A lot of research on runes occurred before the amazing recent discovery
by the famed runologist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets"),
showing that when German socialists performed the straight-arm salute
to their swastika flag, they were saluting alphabetic "S" symbolism for
"socialism." The swastika, although an ancient symbol, was used
sometimes by German National Socialists to represent "S" letters for
their "socialism."

Many people do not know that German socialists did not call their
rune-style symbol a swastika. It was called a Hakenkreuz.

Most people do not know that a cross was worshiped as the notorious
symbol of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hakenkreuz
means "hooked cross." It is one of the biggest cover-ups in history.
The hooked cross became a symbol of Christian Socialism.

With a 45 degree turn of his symbol, and by pointing new uses
clockwise, the leader of German National Socialists highlighted the "S"
shapes to combine the cross with collectivism, merge church and state,
mesh religion and socialism, and mandate the worship of government. He
altered his own signature to use the same symbolism and similar
alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

The noted symbologist Dr. Curry had previously shown that the
straight-arm salute originated in the USA where it had been the early
salute to the USA's flag in the Pledge of Allegiance, that had
originally been created by the self-proclaimed national socialist
Francis Bellamy, cousin and cohort to the also-famous Edward Bellamy,
another national socialist in the USA and known worldwide.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html

People were persecuted for refusing to give the straight-arm salute to
the national flag. That persecution occurred in the USA (to the stars
and stripes) and in Germany (to the swastika flag) at the same time,
although it started in the USA first. Today, most people in the USA
were educated in government schools (socialist schools), so they are
ignorant of the fact that it was happening in both Germany and the USA.

Children of various races and backgrounds attended government schools
that were segregated by law and they were forced to perform the
straight-arm salute in robotic chanting every morning at the ring of a
government bell (just as it is done today but with a different
gesture).

Many people considered the raised-arm salute to the national flag to be
sacrilegious worship of government and socialism. Religious people had
good reasons to consider the pledge / salute to be sacrilegious, in
that Germans used the ritual toward their Hakenkreuz flag, the
hooked-cross flag.

Guido Karl Anton List, better known as Guido von List (1848 - 1919) is
well-known in runology due to his authorship of "Secret of the Runes."
Some people consider him a völkisch author and an important figure in
runic revivalism in the late 19th, early 20th Century.

List was strongly influenced by the Theosophical thought of Madame
Blavatsky, as were the Bellamys.
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html

List claimed that the dominance of the Roman Catholic Church in
Austria-Hungary constituted a continuing occupation of the Germany by
the Roman empire, albeit now in a religious form, and a continuing
persecution of the occupied territory. List also touted renunciation of
Roman Catholicism and perhaps Christianity in general, explaining that
it was a religion with roots in Judaism. Among his ideological
followers was Lanz von Liebenfels. List's beliefs also influenced
Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS in under the National Socialist
German Workers' Party.

In the German language, the title of List's book is "Das Geheimnis der
Runen" and an illustration from his work shows a swastika symbol that
is very different from the symbol used as the symbol of German
socialism. It is more evidence in support of Dr. Curry's work and it
illustrates how the leader of the National Socialist German Workers'
Party deliberately altered the rune to highlight the "S" letters for
"socialism."
http://rexcurry.net/swastika/hakenkreuz_files/LIST.jpg

The swastika-rune style symbol of the Thule Society also supports Dr.
Curry's work. The Thule Society (German: Thule-Gesellschaft) was
originally the Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum 'Study Group
for Germanic Antiquity.' The Thule Society was founded August 17, 1918
by Rudolf von Sebottendorff, as the Munich branch of the Germanenorden,
a secret society a.k.a. the "Order of Teutons" (1912). Von
Sebottendorff later claimed that the Germanenorden pressed him to
emphasize political and nationalist socialist angles. The leader of
German National Socialism was never a member of the Thule Society. An
illustration of the swastika symbol used by the group shows a symbol
that is different from the symbol used as the symbol of German
socialism. It is more evidence in support of Dr. Curry's work and it
illustrates how the leader of the National Socialist German Workers'
Party altered the rune symbol to highlight "S" letters for "socialism."
http://rexcurry.net/swastika/hakenkreuz_files/Thule-gesellschaft_embl...

Under German Socialism, the evolution of the swastika rune occurred
thusly: First, the overlapping sig runes of the Hakenkruez (swastika)
served as the initial symbol used by the National Socialists; Second,
the stylized SA symbol was formed for the Sturmabteilung (SA)
Stormtroopers to resemble the Hakenkreuz; Third, the organization for
youth socialists took from the hakenkreuz its solitary sig runes;
Forth, the SS (Schutzstaffel) symbol that separated the intertwined sig
runes of the hakenkreuz and rearranged it as side-by-side sig runes.
http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a2.html

On January 6, 1929 the leader of the National Socialist German Workers'
Party appointed Heinrich Himmler as the leader of the SS. Himmler is
quoted as having said that the two "SS-Siegrunen" stood aptly for the
name of the Schutzstaffel because they represented success and victory
in Nordic mythology. The Swastika represented their "unshakeable" faith
in the ultimate victory of their socialist philosophy.

In 1932 SS man Walter Heck an employee of the badge manufacturer firm
of Ferdinand Hoffstatter drew two sig-runes side by side and the rest,
so to speak, is history. The SS symbol developed after the swastika,
as an evolution of the swastika. Heck saw the swastika a two "S"
shapes which he rearranged for the special use of a division of the
party.

The word "rune" is probably related to the word "round" etymologically.


P.S. Nik Warrensson is an uneducated ignorant troll and full of
doo-doo.
The straight-arm salute was not an ancient salute and he knows it and
that is why he can't cite any evidence otherwise.

Doug Freyburger

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Oct 27, 2006, 7:03:51 PM10/27/06
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Tinny Ray wrote:
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> The word "rune" is probably related to the word "round" etymologically.
>
> P.S. Nik Warrensson is an uneducated ignorant troll and full of
> doo-doo.

A couple of copies of this minus the PS arrived in the moderation
queue for soc.religion.asatru. Not a game I'm interested in playing.
Rejected.

Tinny Ray

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Oct 27, 2006, 9:27:35 PM10/27/06
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It is good to note that Doug Freyburger concedes the topics (and Dr.
Rex Curry's historical discoveries) without dispute, here and on the
other group.

Post.Post.Colonial.Boy

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Oct 28, 2006, 10:30:08 AM10/28/06
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On 27 Oct 2006 16:03:51 -0700, "Doug Freyburger" <dfre...@yahoo.com>
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A judgement call that, I'm sure, reasonable people would agree with.

Nik

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Doug Freyburger

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Oct 28, 2006, 11:44:45 AM10/28/06
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The Nazi era is off topic on any Asatru group. It's not enforcible on
ARA but it is on SRA. In that era the Nazis corrupted many ancient
Asatru symbols that had no such associations before then.

Anyone who thinks that a sigel rune as crarved into a stone a
thousand years ago is evil because a bunch of evil men 70 agos ago
used it is a liar and an idiot.

The process of cleaning the runes and non-futhark symbols from
the damage done to them by the Nazis is a slow one. The activities
of liars like Tiny Ray are blatant enough to not imede that progress.
It's the evil of the Nazis themselves that impedes the progress and
the existance of modern followers of that movement.

bowman

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Oct 28, 2006, 12:48:27 PM10/28/06
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Post.Post.Colonial.Boy wrote:

> A judgement call that, I'm sure, reasonable people would agree with.

Not everyone can get banned from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Matt_Crypto/Rebuke

Tinny Ray

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Oct 28, 2006, 2:18:14 PM10/28/06
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There goes Doug Freyburger bringing up Nazis again. Doug is talking
about how he covers-up (by suppression and/or deletion) for monstrous
Nazism on the SRA group, and he wishes he could cover up for Nazism on
the ARA group but he is not able to do so.

Doug is trying to keep people from learning how neo-nazi style
deletions by people who cover-up, have corrupted many ancient Asatru
symbols.

Anyone (such as Doug?) who thinks that a sigel rune as crarved into a


stone a thousand years ago is evil because a bunch of evil men 70 agos
ago used it is a liar and an idiot.

Doug is so confused that he cannot or will not even address the actual
topics.

The process of cleaning the runes and non-futhark symbols from the

damage done to them by the National Socialist German Workers' Party,
Nazis, neo-nazis and by people such as Doug Freyburger is a slow one.
The activities of liars like Doug Freyburger are blatant enough to not
imede that progress. It's the evil of the Nazis themselves and of
people such as Doug Freyburger that impedes progress and learning, as
Doug deletes and covers-up the truth about the Nazis.

This is what Doug Freyburger wishes he could delete and cover-up
because, as everyone can see, Doug concedes that it is true, and Doug
does not dispute a word of it -

Tinny Ray

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Oct 28, 2006, 2:24:59 PM10/28/06
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Bowman Post.Post.Colonial.Boy, Thanks for your support of Dr. Rex
Curry's work and for helping to expose Matt Crypto, who has publicly
conceded Dr. Curry's discoveries despite Matt Crypto's earlier oddball
behavior regarding the same topics.
http://rexcurry.net/wikipedia-matt-crypto-cryptography-british.html

Post.Post.Colonial.Boy

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Oct 28, 2006, 5:07:14 PM10/28/06
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On 28 Oct 2006 11:24:59 -0700, "Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote:

>Bowman Post.Post.Colonial.Boy, Thanks for your support of Dr. Rex
>Curry's work

Quite the contrary. Both you and Matt Crypto are talking rubbish.

> and for helping to expose Matt Crypto, who has publicly
>conceded Dr. Curry's discoveries despite Matt Crypto's earlier oddball
>behavior regarding the same topics.
>http://rexcurry.net/wikipedia-matt-crypto-cryptography-british.html

This link hardly constitutes evidence.

>Runes have been the subject of a lot of research, some focusing on
>their influence upon in the history of religion and society. Some of
>the work also examines their influence upon socialism

And you have yet to comment on the questions that I raise about
"Socialism".

> and even upon
>modern government. Those worries have relevance to the enormous size
>and scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
>http://rexcurry.net/guido-von-list-runes-swastika.html
>
>Runes are a form of ancient alphabet, representing letters. Many runes
>have been found in Germany. Researchers believe that the symbols were
>related to religious beliefs in ancient Germany.

DUHHH!!!

<more crap cut out>

PPCB

Post.Post.Colonial.Boy

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Oct 28, 2006, 5:10:36 PM10/28/06
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This is nothing more than a laboriously constructed troll designed in
an attempt to smear Asatruar with Nazism again.

The posted accuses us of not answering his points, that is exactly
what "Tinny Ray" or should I say Roger Williams is guilty of.

I've asked him to define what "Socialism" is an he has not, for a
start but yet he bleats on about Doug not answering any of his
points...<blah blah blah>

Nik

Doug Freyburger

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Oct 28, 2006, 5:27:32 PM10/28/06
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Post.Post.Colonial.Boy wrote:
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> This is nothing more than a laboriously constructed troll designed in
> an attempt to smear Asatruar with Nazism again.
>
> The posted accuses us of not answering his points, that is exactly
> what "Tinny Ray" ...

Consider that when SRA was chartered around 6 months ago, several
trolls said they would never go away. Yet go away they have. Why?
Because they outlived their usefullness and they no longer have a
point. Before it was possible for them to drive newbie heathens off
of Usenet onto mailing lists. Now all they can do is push newbie
heahtens from the unmoderated ARA to moderated SRA.

Have pity on the mentally ill, Nik. Maybe even consider including
thoughts of them during an annual Blot to Eir.

Say, does anyone have a date to do an annual blot to Eir? No
holiday rings a bell for me.

Hail Asgard!
Doug Freyburger

Tinny Ray

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Oct 28, 2006, 6:27:02 PM10/28/06
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Bowman Post.Post.Colonial.Boy PCCB, Thanks again for conceding that
Matt Crypto's comments are rubbish and for helping to expose Matt

Crypto, who has publicly
conceded Dr. Curry's discoveries despite Matt Crypto's earlier oddball
behavior regarding the same topics...DUHHH!!!.
http://rexcurry.net/wikipedia-matt-crypto-cryptography-british.html

Also, you deserve credit for your support of Dr. Rex Curry's work,
which you have not disputed. Even so, you continue to spew crap as if
to evade comment on the questions raised about "Socialism."

Runes have been the subject of a lot of research, some focusing on
their influence upon in the history of religion and society. Some of

the work also examines their influence upon socialism and even upon


modern government. Those worries have relevance to the enormous size
and scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
http://rexcurry.net/guido-von-list-runes-swastika.html

Runes are a form of ancient alphabet, representing letters. Many runes
have been found in Germany. Researchers believe that the symbols were
related to religious beliefs in ancient Germany.

One of the most notorious runes is the rune that resembles and

Tinny Ray

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Oct 28, 2006, 6:33:25 PM10/28/06
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Doug Freyburger and Post.Post.Colonial.Boy are nothing more than
laboriously constructed trolls designed in to cover up for Nazism.

There goes Doug Freyburger chanting "Hail" again and bringing up Nazis


again. Doug is talking about how he covers-up (by suppression and/or
deletion) for monstrous
Nazism on the SRA group, and he wishes he could cover up for Nazism on
the ARA group but he is not able to do so.

Everyone should have pity on the mentally ill.

Michael Martin (Heathen Libertarian Forum)

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Oct 28, 2006, 7:00:05 PM10/28/06
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The stiff armed salute, as made famous by Italian Fascists & German
National Socialists, originated in ancient Rome. I am not aware that
American citizens, unless of course they were/are members of the
various historical/modern day factions of the American Nazi Party,
saluted the American flag in the same manner.
I pointed this out before and will do it again; Hitler's National
Socialism is not a German ideology, but Italian/ Romean to the core.
Back in the 1920's Hitler was unable to sell an Italian product
(Fascism) to German voters. To camouflage the Italian origin of that
political ideology he changed its name to National Socialism and
adopted some very Germanic symbols (Swastika, S-rune, etc) to the image
of his political party. Additional to this Hitler was a Roman Catholic
who had no interest whatsoever in Germanic Heathenism. He took those
Germanic symbols for the mere reason of giving his Italian-born
political ideology a German/Germanic appearance.

Michael Martin - HLF

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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Oct 28, 2006, 9:08:34 PM10/28/06
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Tinny Ray wrote:

>
> The noted symbologist Dr. Curry had previously shown that the
> straight-arm salute originated in the USA where it had been the early
> salute to the USA's flag in the Pledge of Allegiance, that had

Bollocks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute

The salute is shown on Trajan's Column.

FFF
Dirk

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Post.Post.Colonial.Boy

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Oct 29, 2006, 1:30:42 AM10/29/06
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On 28 Oct 2006 15:27:02 -0700, "Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote:

>Bowman Post.Post.Colonial.Boy PCCB, Thanks again for conceding that
>Matt Crypto's comments are rubbish

I have conceded nothing of the sort...quite the opposite in fact.

I can see that you're determined to believe what you want to
believe...no guarantee that you're believing the truth.

>and for helping to expose Matt Crypto,

I've done nothing of the sort.

> who has publicly
>conceded Dr. Curry's discoveries despite Matt Crypto's earlier oddball
>behavior regarding the same topics...DUHHH!!!.

I actually don't care, at all, what Matt Crypto (whoever the hell he
is or isn't) does or doesn't say, to be fair but by the same token I
don't take any notice of people who believe what they want to believe
despite over whelming evidence to the contrary...i.e. you "Tinny Ray"!

<cut of bullshit>

Nik

Post.Post.Colonial.Boy

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Oct 29, 2006, 1:36:37 AM10/29/06
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On 28 Oct 2006 15:33:25 -0700, "Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote:

>Doug Freyburger and Post.Post.Colonial.Boy are nothing more than
>laboriously constructed trolls designed in to cover up for Nazism.

The stupidity of this comment is obvious to everyone that knows both
Doug and myself.

This posting firms my conviction that the person "Tinny Ray" is none
other than our old protagonist Bertie the Bunyip/Roger Williams...

He'd gone away for a while but now he's back with this elaborately
constructed runic bleating and accusations of closet nazism.

His game is to continue making posts like this and, rightly or
wrongly, associate, in the common mind Asatru belief with nazism.

When one considers, however, that a recurring theme of the sagas is
the conflict between individual freedom and the needs of a community
to limit those freedoms in order to survive it makes the accusations
of nazism all the more ludicrous.

My suggestion is that we all refrain from engaging with "Tinny Ray".

Bestu

Post.Post.Colonial.Boy

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Oct 29, 2006, 1:38:19 AM10/29/06
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:08:34 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
<dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:

>Tinny Ray wrote:
>
>>
>> The noted symbologist Dr. Curry had previously shown that the
>> straight-arm salute originated in the USA where it had been the early
>> salute to the USA's flag in the Pledge of Allegiance, that had
>
>Bollocks
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute
>
>The salute is shown on Trajan's Column.

There's no arguing it.

Doug Frisk

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Oct 29, 2006, 10:50:00 AM10/29/06
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"Post.Post.Colonial.Boy" <repub...@email.com> wrote in message
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> On 28 Oct 2006 15:33:25 -0700, "Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote:
>
>>Doug Freyburger and Post.Post.Colonial.Boy are nothing more than
>>laboriously constructed trolls designed in to cover up for Nazism.
>
> The stupidity of this comment is obvious to everyone that knows both
> Doug and myself.
>
> This posting firms my conviction that the person "Tinny Ray" is none
> other than our old protagonist Bertie the Bunyip/Roger Williams...

Why do you see Bertie under every rock? That says much more about your
obsession than his.

>
> He'd gone away for a while but now he's back with this elaborately
> constructed runic bleating and accusations of closet nazism.
>
> His game is to continue making posts like this and, rightly or
> wrongly, associate, in the common mind Asatru belief with nazism.
>
> When one considers, however, that a recurring theme of the sagas is
> the conflict between individual freedom and the needs of a community
> to limit those freedoms in order to survive it makes the accusations
> of nazism all the more ludicrous.
>
> My suggestion is that we all refrain from engaging with "Tinny Ray".

I have, he's a pathetic troll. Please try to follow your own advice.


Post.Post.Colonial.Boy

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Oct 29, 2006, 12:58:36 PM10/29/06
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:50:00 -0600, "Doug Frisk"
<noe...@invaliddomain.con> wrote:

>"Post.Post.Colonial.Boy" <repub...@email.com> wrote in message
>news:jli8k29km2g627n0h...@4ax.com...
>> On 28 Oct 2006 15:33:25 -0700, "Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Doug Freyburger and Post.Post.Colonial.Boy are nothing more than
>>>laboriously constructed trolls designed in to cover up for Nazism.
>>
>> The stupidity of this comment is obvious to everyone that knows both
>> Doug and myself.
>>
>> This posting firms my conviction that the person "Tinny Ray" is none
>> other than our old protagonist Bertie the Bunyip/Roger Williams...
>
>Why do you see Bertie under every rock?

I don't.

>That says much more about your
>obsession than his.

If something is true then it is true. Stating it is hardly an
obsession.

>> He'd gone away for a while but now he's back with this elaborately
>> constructed runic bleating and accusations of closet nazism.
>>
>> His game is to continue making posts like this and, rightly or
>> wrongly, associate, in the common mind Asatru belief with nazism.
>>
>> When one considers, however, that a recurring theme of the sagas is
>> the conflict between individual freedom and the needs of a community
>> to limit those freedoms in order to survive it makes the accusations
>> of nazism all the more ludicrous.
>>
>> My suggestion is that we all refrain from engaging with "Tinny Ray".
>
>I have, he's a pathetic troll. Please try to follow your own advice.

What makes you think I won't?

Nik

Doug Freyburger

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Michael Martin (Heathen Libertarian Forum) wrote:
>
> The stiff armed salute, as made famous by Italian Fascists & German
> National Socialists, originated in ancient Rome. I am not aware that
> American citizens, unless of course they were/are members of the
> various historical/modern day factions of the American Nazi Party,
> saluted the American flag in the same manner.

Is there evidence that the German tribes used the Roman salute?
Doesn't seem like something they'd have adopted in ancient times.
Certainly doesn't seem to be a topic worth ridding of the Nazi
stigma by heathens.

We are related to the Nova Roma movement, though. Both Asatru
and Nova Roma are reconstructionist efforts towards building on
an ancient religious heritage that is core to western culture, along
with the Hellenic reconstructionist and Druids and so on. Lately
there's been discussion on Asatru groups and lists about the
fellowship between modern Germanics and modern Slavics in the
form of Poles attending Asatru events. Anyways, if the Nova
Roma folks wish to work on removing the 20th century stigma
from the ancient Roman salute, more power to'em IMO.

We've got the stigma of the swastika that will be an albatross
around our necks for a very long time. Our cousins and allies in
Nova Roma have the Roman salute doing the same thing. I doubt
that any of us alive today will see the stimga go away.

But runes and legions are a different story. I've seen runic
jewelry for years and included are ones that had been corrupted
by the Nazis. One by one the symbols return to their real
meanings. The 20th century corruption gone but not forgotten.

Carl Rev

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Oct 31, 2006, 7:23:46 AM10/31/06
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That information about runes being used as modern alphabetic symbolism for
"S" letters for "socialism" in the swastika under the National Socialist
German Workers' Party is actually quite fascinating. Thanks.

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Doug Frisk

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<snip of crap>

> "Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote in message
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<Snip of more crap>

So a couple of hints if you want to be an effective "nym shifting troll".

First, don't post with the same return email address on all your posts while
changing only the display name. Throwaway email accounts are cheap.

Second, all reputable providers (this would include Google and your ISP) log
your IP address. You'll need to learn how to proxy or maybe find a provider
that will hide your IP address. These two posts both came from the same
residential IP address which means they came from the same computer.

As Bugs Bunny would say. "What a maroon".


*Bill*

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Nov 16, 2006, 5:55:43 PM11/16/06
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You 2 are so stupid it is astounding.
1. You stupidly claim that in 1893 the Roman emperor Trajan was depicted in
columns celebrating his victories.
2. You stupidly imply that you believe the "Roman salute" myth due to
something depicted on such a column.
3. You stupidly imply that the depiction was the origin of the straight-arm
salute that developed from the American National Socialist Francis Bellamy
in 1892.
4. You stupidly imply that the depiction was the origin of salute of German
National Socialism.

This is the time when you find a single image of someone with his hand
raised on something from ancient Rome and you spontaneously declare it to be
the mythical "Roman" salute, even though you know nothing about the scene
depicted, and the people who do have knowledge of the image have never said
that it was a "Roman salute" depicted.

Go ahead, everyone is waiting for you to show even moreso your stupidity.


Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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Nov 16, 2006, 6:07:18 PM11/16/06
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Then they should go over to uk.politics.misc where you are already
spamming this loon stuff.

*Bill*

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Nov 16, 2006, 9:03:07 PM11/16/06
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Thanks for conceding everything about Dr. Rex Curry's work. Even on the tiny
issue that you attempt to raise you end up conceding everything.

Dirk, you are such a loon spamming your made up looniness all over the
place. you should try looking at the pictures, with the salute.

Here is what you concede about Dr. Curry's work regarding the single tiny
issue that you attempt to raise:

The event that served as inspiration for the painting did not actually occur
as depicted.

The artist did not actually see the event that inspired him.

The artist was not even attempting to discover the actual scene nor to paint
it as a factual record.

The artist has never referred to the scene he fabricated as showing an
"ancient Roman salute."

The artist has never referred to the scene he fabricated as showing
"salutes" at all.

The Tennis Court Oath does not show other people taking an oath.

The artist never represented the painting as showing other people joining in
an oath.

The word oath is singular in the painting's title, not plural.

The painting shows a single person in the center taking an oath.

Again, the actual event that inspired the artist did not occur as he painted
it.

The artist never claimed that the event that inspired him occurred as he
painted it.

You are creating new angles on the modern roman salute myth in an effort to
cover-up Dr. Curry's discoveries simply because you don't like reality and
you wish to pretend that something else happened.

Even the arguments you make have not been repeated in history. Your posts
have shown that you make stuff up as you go along, as you expand a mythical
phrase (the Roman salute) which you have already given up as an error, and
you continue in your effort to cover-up the discoveries of Dr. Rex Curry.
You are pathetic.

The person who wrote the wiki paragraph is similar to you in that he was
attempting to find/create the explanation he desired to assert in his effort
to cover-up the discoveries of the historian Dr. Rex Curry.

And despite all of the above, you concede Dr. Curry's work is correct in
that you never even attempt to assert that you made up new explanations ever
influenced Francis Bellamy.

You know that Bellamy explained how he created his salute and that it had
nothing to do with anything you have suggested.

You know that Bellamy never said the word "Roman salute," and there is no
evidence that such a thought ever existed in his head.

You know that you have not even had the guts to attempt to tie your flights
of imagination to the origin of the salute of the National Socialist German
Workers' Party, so you show how little belief you have in your own honesty.

You are pathetic.


Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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Nov 17, 2006, 4:49:40 AM11/17/06
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And you are a lunatic.

tallboy

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:41:28 PM11/17/06
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<laughter>

Have a nice day

tallboy

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:42:48 PM11/17/06
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Amusing lunatic though Dirk, fairs fair.

<laughter>

Tinny Ray

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Nov 27, 2006, 9:09:26 AM11/27/06
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Tallboy Nik and Dirk Bruere at NeoPax are both lunatics.

that you never even attempt to assert that your made up new


explanations ever
influenced Francis Bellamy.

You know that Bellamy explained how he created his salute and that it
had
nothing to do with anything you have suggested.

You know that Bellamy never said the word "Roman salute," and there is
no
evidence that such a thought ever existed in his head.

You know that you have not even had the guts to attempt to tie your
flights
of imagination to the origin of the salute of the National Socialist
German
Workers' Party, so you show how little belief you have in your own
honesty.

Tallboy Nik and Dirk Bruere at NeoPax are both pathetic lunatics.

Tinny Ray

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Nov 27, 2006, 9:18:55 AM11/27/06
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Doug Frisk posts crap. As Bugs Bunny would say "Frisk is such a
maroon." So a couple of hints if you want to be effective: First,
don't post unless you actually address the topic. Changing the topic to
something completely unrelated is cheap and you only humiliate yourself
and show that you are ignorant and have no on-topic knowledge.

That information about runes being used as modern alphabetic symbolism
for
"S" letters for "socialism" in the swastika under the National
Socialist
German Workers' Party is actually quite fascinating. Thanks.

Bowman Post.Post.Colonial. Boy PCCB, Thanks again for conceding that

Tinny Ray

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Nov 27, 2006, 9:28:03 AM11/27/06
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Thanks Doug Freyburger for supporting Dr. Rex Curry's work and for
pointing out the stupidity of Michael Martin (Heathen Forum). It is
amazing that in a very discussion about the absurd myths Michael Martin
regurgitates, Martin's response is to simply regurgitate the myths some
more. But that is because Martin has never given it any thought and
has no citations, references or support and never will, and he knows he
just repeats myths because he likes myths.

The stiff armed salute did not originate in ancient Rome.

Martin is so stupid that he is not aware that American citizens saluted


the American flag in the same manner.

As pointed out before, and here again; The National Socialist German
Workers' Party was a German ideology, heavily influenced by American
National Socialism that predated it for 3 decades, and it was not
Roman.

Back in the 1920's the NSGWP's leader embraced the National Socialist
political ideology and he changed the name of his National Socialist
group to National Socialism and
adopted some very Germanic S-shaped symbols (Swastika, S-rune, etc) to
represent his "socialism" to the image of his political party.

Additional to this he had no interest whatsoever in Germanic Heathenism
other than as a way to push national socialism. He took those Germanic
symbols for the mere reason of promoting his German/Germanic national
socialism.

Doug Frisk

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Nov 27, 2006, 1:47:26 PM11/27/06
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"Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote in message
news:1164637134....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Doug Frisk posts crap. As Bugs Bunny would say "Frisk is such a
> maroon." So a couple of hints if you want to be effective: First,
> don't post unless you actually address the topic. Changing the topic to
> something completely unrelated is cheap and you only humiliate yourself
> and show that you are ignorant and have no on-topic knowledge.

Bwahahaha. Whine, bitch and moan all you like. It does not change the fact
that you posted under an alternate ID to agree with yourself.

That you chose to respond by posting your pathetic screed again says quite a
bit about you.


Tinny Ray

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Nov 27, 2006, 2:51:35 PM11/27/06
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Bwahahaha Frisk. Whine, Frisk bitch and moan all you like. It does
not change the fact
that you just humiliated yourself again in exactly the same manner as
before. So a couple of hints if you want to be effective: First, don't

post unless you actually address the topic. Changing the topic to
something completely unrelated is cheap and you only humiliate yourself
and show that you are ignorant and have no on-topic knowledge. That you

chose to respond by posting your pathetic screed again says quite a bit
about you. You post crap. As Bugs Bunny would say "Frisk is such a
maroon."

news.jo...@gmail.com

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Aug 9, 2016, 4:08:17 PM8/9/16
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Rex Curry discoveries are cited in many books on Amazon, Kindle, and other sources, including the book "Libertarian History" by the author Lin Xun. Xun explains these shockers from Dr. Curry: (1) that the "Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag" was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior; (2) that the military salute was the origin of the Nazi salute (via the military salute's use in the original Pledge of Allegiance) and; (3) Swastikas represented crossed "S" letter shapes for "socialist" under Hitler.
Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/153544326X
Kindle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J0FV8AQ

Rex Curry Vimeo and more Videos
https://vimeo.com/101709862
http://www.teachertube.com/video/pledge-of-allegiance-flags-francis-bellamy-edward-bellamy-historian-dr-rex-curry-6235

Rex Curry YouTube Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/rexcurrydotnet
https://youtu.be/BssWWZ3XEe4

Rex Curry audio podomatic, itunes, and more
https://player.fm/series/stop-the-pledge-of-allegiance-from-francis-bellamy
http://stopthepledge.podomatic.com/
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/stop-pledge-allegiance-from/id496933143?mt=2

https://www.amazon.de/Rex-Curry/e/B00BE6LDXC
https://www.amazon.fr/Rex-Curry/e/B00BE6LDXC
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rex-Curry-BFFs-Analects-Tinny/dp/1502368781
Rex Curry BFFs Analects: Dead Writers Club &amp; the Pointer Institute ...
https://books.google.com/books?id=f6okBgAAQBAJ
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1502368781
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&amp;hl=en&amp;q=1502368781
Dr. Rex Curry's Amazing Discovery: Dead Writers Club
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1500588091
https://books.google.com/books?id=4bIkBgAAQBAJ

https://www.pinterest.com/danielpose/rex-curry/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/edward-bellamy

Rex Curry tumblr
http://pledging.tumblr.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/user/58
https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/112281

https://aboutme.google.com/b/106035071093851015596
https://plus.google.com/b/105270001998543057318

Rex Curry and Judge Napolitano
https://sites.google.com/site/francisbellamy/judge-napolitano
http://rexcurry.blogspot.com/

Rex Curry twitter
https://twitter.com/rexcurry

Minarchist Wordpress Blog
http://minarchist.wordpress.com/category/dr-rex-curry

Rex Curry Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/7491406.Rex_Curry
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/rex-curry

Rex Curry IJ
http://members.ij.net/rex

Rex Curry Cafepress
http://www.cafepress.com/rex_curry

Rex Curry Law
http://rexcurrylaw.wordpress.com/

Rex Curry livejournal
http://rexcurrydotnet.livejournal.com/

Curry Lake (Lake Curry)
https://plus.google.com/108451616285300094487/about

Libertarian Party: Rex Curry
https://plus.google.com/110209547454046275823
https://plus.google.com/107760531958102505515
https://plus.google.com/b/105270001998543057318/107760531958102505515
https://plus.google.com/b/105270001998543057318/

http://home.earthlink.net/~swastika-nazism-exposed/

http://freepress.org/profile/rex-curry

zak alt

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The historian Rex Curry has compiled loads of scholarly research on so many diverse topics that it is amazing. Here are some other fascinating points in books about the historian Dr. Curry's work -

NEW SWASTIKA DISCOVERY: Hitler’s symbol is the reason why Hitler renamed his political party from DAP to NSDAP - "National Socialist German Workers Party" - because he needed the word "Socialist" in his party's name so that Hitler could use swastikas as "S"-letter shaped logos for "SOCIALIST" as the party's emblem. The party's name had to fit in Hitler's socialist branding campaign that used the swastika and many other similar alphabetical symbols, including the “SS” and “SA” and “NSV” and “VW” etc. He was selling socialism by selling flags and related merchandise. It resembled the advertising campaign of the American socialist Francis Bellamy. The “new discovery” part includes the fact that the public doesn’t know that Hitler’s use of the swastika as alphabetical symbolism is a reason why he changed the name of the party (adding the word “socialist”). The new discovery is also that it is additional proof that Hitler employed the swastika as alphabetical symbolism of “S”-letter shapes for his socialism. The discoveries are from the Swastikologist Dr. Rex Curry’s work.
See more in the book "Hitler Was A Communist" https://www.amazon.com/Hitler-was-Communist-Ian-Tinny-ebook/dp/B09XFKJTL9

NEW LENIN’S SWASTIKA REVELATION: Vladimir Lenin’s swastika is exposed herein. The impact of Lenin’s swastikas was reinforced at that time with additional swastikas on ruble money (paper currency). The swastika became a symbol of socialism under Lenin. It’s influence upon Adolf Hitler is explained in this book. Lenin’s swastika evolved into the Communist swastika. It was four “C”-letter shapes merged to form a swastika. Communism’s swastika was inspired by the “CCCP” acronym and by swastikas on Soviet socialism’s ruble currency that signified “S”-letter shapes for “Soviet Socialism” (from “SSSR”). See an image of the communist swastika here in the book "Hitler Was A Communist"

9. The term “swastika” never appears in the original Mein Kampf.
10. There is no evidence that Hitler ever used the word “swastika.”
11. The symbol that Hitler did use was intended to represent “S”-letter shapes for “socialist.”
14. Hitler altered his own signature to reflect his “S-shapes for socialism” logo branding.
17. German socialists and Soviet socialists partnered for International Socialism in 1939. They launched WWII, invading Poland together, and continued onward from there, killing millions. Soviet socialism had signed on for Hitler’s Holocaust.
18. After Hitler’s death, Stalin continued the plan he had made with Hitler for Global Socialism. Stalin took over the same areas that Hitler had captured. He used the same facilities that Hitler had used. Hitler’s Holocaust never ended. Stalin replaced Hitler.
It is amazing information.
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