Name Game
Manny Olds
) Forgive my mistake Heimdall. I did not mean to confuse you with
) HeimdallR.
) I probably wouldn't get people mixed up so much if people didn't name
) themselves after gods so much.[...]
) on NGs and chat groups in the world? It's much easier and original for
) me to be called Ryan å Vaerdal because my ancestors are from Vaerdal,
) [..]
Of course, it's even less confusing if everyone just uses his or her own
more-or-less unique given name. All these mock-Viking names give a.r.a the
look of some kind of frat costume party. IMHO, of course.
When you intend to live the religion, you have to start with fundamentals.
Bring the religion *into* your identity. "Integrity" has to do with
wholeness, expressed as adherence to a moral code.
Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.
--
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
"Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes." -- Thoreau
Lorien
>Of course, it's even less confusing if everyone just uses his or her own
>more-or-less unique given name. All these mock-Viking names give a.r.a the
>look of some kind of frat costume party.
Or worse... the alt.pagan newsgroup... *shudder*
Joe Mandato
wode...@geocities.com
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> wrote:
> Ryan å Vaerdal <berser...@webtv.net> wrote:
> ) Forgive my mistake Heimdall. I did not mean to confuse you with
> ) HeimdallR.
> ) I probably wouldn't get people mixed up so much if people didn't name
> ) themselves after gods so much.[...]
> ) on NGs and chat groups in the world? It's much easier and original for
> ) me to be called Ryan å Vaerdal because my ancestors are from Vaerdal,
> ) [..]
>
> more-or-less unique given name. All these mock-Viking names give a.r.a the
>
> When you intend to live the religion, you have to start with fundamentals.
> Bring the religion *into* your identity. "Integrity" has to do with
> wholeness, expressed as adherence to a moral code.
>
> Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
> will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.
>
> --
> Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
Manny,
Unless of course you've used it ten years, and everyone knows your real name
anyway (-:
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> Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
> will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.
Yeesh! I'd like to think I use a pen-name to keep my ass in a job here in
Indiana. Last thing I need are some of my fundie co-workers burning me at the
stake....
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//\\ Karl Donaldsson
\\// mek...@hotmail.com
\/ http://i.am/mekboy
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Ngilcach
of frat costume party. IMHO, of course.>>
anything.
<<Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.>>
** In reference to my first comment ... most of us here have been
Heathen/Pagan for many number of years. I would hazard to guess that it is not
our intention to <slip> away.
My moniker as a spiritual name - one reflecting my spiritual beliefs. Because
I am very active in the Heathen/Pagan community, having a spiritual name is
very helpful. For example, as an active Heathen/Pagan, I meet untold number of
folk. As to my job, I am a yoga instructor; again, I meet untold number of
students. The most reliable way for me to *remember* is by name. When I am at
the grocery store, the library, or a community event, & someone recognizes me
they usual say "Hello Yngona", or "Hello (birth-name)". In this way I am able
to readily identify to whom I am speaking.
In Service ...
Yngona Tyrsvardh
Ingeborg S. Nordén
Manny Olds wrote in message <71s6rn$1em$1...@callisto.clark.net>...
>>Of course, it's even less confusing if everyone just uses his or her own
>more-or-less unique given name. All these mock-Viking names give a.r.a the
>look of some kind of frat costume party. IMHO, of course.
>
>When you intend to live the religion, you have to start with fundamentals.
>Bring the religion *into* your identity. "Integrity" has to do with
>wholeness, expressed as adherence to a moral code.
With all due respect, I took my Nordic name *legally* and have the documents
to prove it; I also paid good money for both court costs and the required
advertisement in the local newspaper. Surely someone who just wanted to
"play Viking" would not go that far--my bank, creditors, past landladies and
even the government have accepted me as Ingeborg S. Nordén for over four
years now. I have paid bills in that name and used it in non-Internet
contexts totally unrelated to paganism...so you can hardly assume that
EVERYONE who takes a Nordic name is trying to commit fraud, escape mundane
life or evade responsibility.
From what I've seen of Ryan's previous writings here, it doesn't look as if
he's trying to do any of those things either. (I might be wrong, but then
again I don't know Ryan personally!) So please, for the gods' sake, cut the
man some slack.
Ingeborg S. Nordén
(rune...@msn.com)
Eirik Dudeleisson
>>>Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.<<<
Like Ingeborg, I had my name changed legally. <laughing>...a few days ago,
I went to vote and had to spell my last name 6 times to the elderly lady
handing out the "fill-in-bubble" sheets.
1) I firmly believe in using the patronymic system -- taking your father's
name + son or daughter.
2) My first name was shite (biblical) and had to go; never in my whole life
did I like it.
I had always planned on changing my name to my father's, thus, I would have
been: Dudley Leavitt Rushton #3. However, Dudley in no way fits me, and
Eirik simply felt "right."
What bothers me, though, is when Asatruar take the name of their god/dess
and apply -son or -dottir to it. Such as Odinsson, Wodansson, Thorsson,
etc.. That is as lame as taking their god/dess as a first name, IMO.
Unser Weg lebt noch!
-Eirik the Young-
Eirik Dudeleisson Dudeleissonar Fredrickssonar Edwinssonar
Chieftain, Markland Kindred of the Asatru Alliance
--
"Wir ehren die heiligen germanischen Götter unserer Vorfahren."
-Markland Creed
mark...@asatru.org
http://members.xoom.com/markland
Heimdall
Manny Olds wrote:
> Ryan å Vaerdal <berser...@webtv.net> wrote:
> ) Forgive my mistake Heimdall. I did not mean to confuse you with
> ) HeimdallR.
> ) I probably wouldn't get people mixed up so much if people didn't name
> ) themselves after gods so much.[...]
> ) on NGs and chat groups in the world? It's much easier and original for
> ) me to be called Ryan å Vaerdal because my ancestors are from Vaerdal,
> ) [..]
>
> Of course, it's even less confusing if everyone just uses his or her own
> more-or-less unique given name. All these mock-Viking names give a.r.a the
> look of some kind of frat costume party. IMHO, of course.
Only to those who look no deeper than a screen name. And frankly, if that's
the case, who cares what they think.
>
>
> When you intend to live the religion, you have to start with fundamentals.
> Bring the religion *into* your identity. "Integrity" has to do with
> wholeness, expressed as adherence to a moral code.
>
> Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
> will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.
Or it could be that they couldn't get an account in their given name, want to
express something by the name they chose, or don't wish their real names
transferred through spam programs or given to untrustworthy individuals.
>
>
> --
> Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
>
Harald and Gerda
Heimdall wrote in message <364268A1...@geocities.com>...
>
>
>>Manny wrote
>> Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
>> will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.
>
>Or it could be that they couldn't get an account in their given name, want to
>express something by the name they chose, or don't wish their real names
>transferred through spam programs or given to untrustworthy individuals.
>
And one could add that so-called "real" names are available for the asking -
and if you ask and are refused, then full-rounded re-consideration might be
appropriate....
Frith
Steelfoot
S. M. Hewitt
<mark...@asatru.org> wrote:
>Manny Olds wrote:
>>>>Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
>will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.<<<
>
>Like Ingeborg, I had my name changed legally. <laughing>...a few days ago,
>I went to vote and had to spell my last name 6 times to the elderly lady
>handing out the "fill-in-bubble" sheets.
...I think we've been 'round this tree before.
If you don't like "made up names", Manny, don't use one. If someone
else chooses to use one, more power to 'im. Some of the more
imaginative names do summon up a snicker sometimes, but there's often
an effort to honor or to take the religion into one's personna.
...the "hide and be able to leave the religion easily" remark was
unwarranted, I think.
I don't personally use an online "alias" primarily because I couldn't
think of one I liked...and now think that it would be too confusing to
adopt one. I'm not to concerned whether anyone can identify my
postings...it should be easy...look for the 150-250 line tedious
postings, and it's either Bowery crossposting or me droning on about
something I consider *soooooo* important....
I do sometimes wonder about the "Crystal Hawk" and "Princess Briannah"
monikers seen elsewhere online...but, you can tell a lot about someone
by the words they use to describe themselves...a lot....
>Unser Weg lebt noch!
>
>-Eirik the Young-
>
>Eirik Dudeleisson Dudeleissonar Fredrickssonar Edwinssonar
>Chieftain, Markland Kindred of the Asatru Alliance
...you sure seem to be padding that sig-line, nowadays....
-- Steve
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Hail Óðinn AllFather, wise and friend of the wise.
Hail Týr, a strong and constant friend.
Honor to the Scholars and the Warriors.
Honor to the folk of the Æsir.
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mark...@asatru.org
> ...you sure seem to be padding that sig-line, nowadays....
What do you mean?
-Eirik the Young-
S. M. Hewitt
>
>> ...you sure seem to be padding that sig-line, nowadays....
>
>What do you mean?
>
>-Eirik the Young-
...I'm waiting for you to add "Duke of Lorraine" and "Count Chocula"
to what is already there....
I'M FUCKING WITH YOU...somebody's got to.
Manny Olds
) Manny Olds wrote in message <71s6rn$1em$1...@callisto.clark.net>...
)>When you intend to live the religion, you have to start with fundamentals.
)>Bring the religion *into* your identity. "Integrity" has to do with
)>wholeness, expressed as adherence to a moral code.
) With all due respect, I took my Nordic name *legally* and have the
) documents to prove it;
That sounds like an approach aimed at "wholeness", to me. I can only hail
your decisiveness and energy.
--
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
"Real Men don't ask reference librarians -- or anyone else -- for help.
Real Women are too considerate to impose on reference librarians by asking
them for help." -- Dan Goodman
Manny Olds
) Manny Olds wrote:
)> Of course, it's even less confusing if everyone just uses his or her own
)> more-or-less unique given name. All these mock-Viking names give a.r.a the
)> look of some kind of frat costume party. IMHO, of course.
) Only to those who look no deeper than a screen name. And frankly, if
) that's the case, who cares what they think.
Well, there's a remarkable sameness in content, too, but that's another
thread for another day.
Contemplating the ersatz Olde Norski names and Viking/mystickal
role-playing in general, I keep thinking of hot air. Each and every
molecule thinks it is being independent and energetic and expressing its
uniqueness. But the outside observer says "Yawn, PV=NRT" and easily
predicts how the change in pressure will affect the volume.
Think about it--if your desire to express your identity draws you to dress
and act like everyone else in your group, what are you really telling the
world?
--
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
What does the flame think of the moth?
mek...@hotmail.com
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> wrote:
> Contemplating the ersatz Olde Norski names and Viking/mystickal
> role-playing in general, I keep thinking of hot air. Each and every
> molecule thinks it is being independent and energetic and expressing its
> uniqueness. But the outside observer says "Yawn, PV=NRT" and easily
> predicts how the change in pressure will affect the volume.
Actually, PV=NRT only works for well-behaved, ideal gases. I'd like to think
of us a more like superheated gases with non-linear psychrometry.
> Think about it--if your desire to express your identity draws you to dress
> and act like everyone else in your group, what are you really telling the
> world?
I think I'm telling the world that my pen-name keeps me anonymous in case the
local xtians surf the web, too. What do you think it says? Technically, I
AM Karl Donaldsson. My middle name, Carlyle, is derived from Karl, and I am
the son of a man named Donald. I suppose it's just a different way to
construct my name than the way found on my birth certificate...
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//\\ Karl Donaldsson
\\// mek...@hotmail.com
\/ http://i.am/mekboy
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Vithar Herren
> Like Ingeborg, I had my name changed legally. <laughing>...a few days ago,
> I went to vote and had to spell my last name 6 times to the elderly lady
> handing out the "fill-in-bubble" sheets.
>
> 1) I firmly believe in using the patronymic system -- taking your father's
> name + son or daughter.
> 2) My first name was shite (biblical) and had to go; never in my whole life
> did I like it.
>
> I had always planned on changing my name to my father's, thus, I would have
> been: Dudley Leavitt Rushton #3. However, Dudley in no way fits me, and
> Eirik simply felt "right."
>
> What bothers me, though, is when Asatruar take the name of their god/dess
> and apply -son or -dottir to it. Such as Odinsson, Wodansson, Thorsson,
> etc.. That is as lame as taking their god/dess as a first name, IMO.
>
>
Um... to play uh, .... "Loki's" advocate here! (no offense Loki!)
Aren't you of the belief that we are all descended (from some distant ancestor)
from the gods, anyway... so taking their name (Odinnson for ex.) could
be thought of to indicate your belief/faith in your heritage. yes?
But that thought aside, actually, it IS kind of odd. I've wished for the past
nine years that I could think of a name other than "Vithar" that seemed to "fit"
me. I'd like to get my name legally changed from the jewish "Samuel" but, so
many know me as "Vithar" now, that to pick something else would be opening a
whole 'nother can of worms.
> Unser Weg lebt noch!
>
> -Eirik the Young-
>
> Eirik Dudeleisson Dudeleissonar Fredrickssonar Edwinssonar
> Chieftain, Markland Kindred of the Asatru Alliance
>
> --
> "Wir ehren die heiligen germanischen Götter unserer Vorfahren."
> -Markland Creed
> mark...@asatru.org
> http://members.xoom.com/markland
--
In Frith,
Vithar
The great and mighty lord of everything that is subjected to him. The giver of
those things the mighty Gydhja of Irmin's Way allows him to give, and the taker
of all things given unto him.
Vithar Herren
Harald and Gerda wrote:
>
> And one could add that so-called "real" names are available for the asking -
> and if you ask and are refused, then full-rounded re-consideration might be
> appropriate....
>
hmmm.. some people might be afraid of persecution... but I'm not, so:
Samuel David Herren (uuuuugggghhhh!)
5800 Hollister #2604
Houston, TX 77040
(713) 939-8676
I've got no enemies of which I am aware, who should care to do me harm... and if I
did, I'd give em this info. anyway!
It's no big secret!
>
> Frith
> Steelfoot
--
In Frith,
Vithar
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Heimdall
Manny Olds wrote:
> Contemplating the ersatz Olde Norski names and Viking/mystickal
> role-playing in general, I keep thinking of hot air. Each and every
> molecule thinks it is being independent and energetic and expressing its
> uniqueness. But the outside observer says "Yawn, PV=NRT" and easily
> predicts how the change in pressure will affect the volume.
>
> Think about it--if your desire to express your identity draws you to dress
> and act like everyone else in your group, what are you really telling the
> world?
Who knows. I wouldn't make the silly leap from the use of a screen name to the
assumption that anyone dressed or acted like anyone else. But, as I said, one
would have to look deeper than the surface to realize that. Giving life to
fantasies that because someone uses a certain screen name they must be dressed as
vikings or, as you stated in a previous post, running around with swords is of
little value.
>
>
> --
> Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
>
> What does the flame think of the moth?
Heimdall
AFA/AOR/Himinbjorg Hearth
What does the brain think of the mouth?
vid...@hotmail.com
By Odin Manny!
You already have the coolest name on ARA, isn't that enough?
Vidhar
:RtR:
--
"Odin isn't neo/nazi-filth nor christian...and neither am I!"
Reyn til Runa!
mark...@asatru.org
>>>Aren't you of the belief that we are all descended (from some distant
ancestor) from the gods, anyway...<<<
No, never have I said this. It may be what many of the "Folkish" believe,
but I, personally, don't believe this. My only thoughts on the matter: there
is a natural and organic spirituality to every ethnic group on this planet,
and they should uphold that which best expresses their innate soul and
ancestors.
>>>The great and mighty lord of everything that is subjected to him. The giver
of those things the mighty Gydhja of Irmin's Way allows him to give, and the
taker of all things given unto him.<<<
What is it with my sig-line that you and Steve feel is necessary to respond
to?
-Eirik the Young-
ThorleifR
>will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.
>
Excellent point, Manny. I legally changed my name, being an adoptee who is half
Swede, to Thorleif Ingsson. I didn't care for my old name (Matthew), since
oh... I was 13 or 14, and I became more aware of what a name means. I am not
Jewish, and I have nothing against them, but I wanted a name that better suited
me, personality-wise.
And I do use my name as my Email address... Thor...@aol.com...
I am a Thorr'sman, and a son of Fro Ing, and have always been an explorer and
something of an adventurer, hence my proper name.
In Frith,
Thorleif
proud daddy of 2 Heathens
(1 more on the way) <grin>
ThorleifR
>and apply -son or -dottir to it. Such as Odinsson, Wodansson, Thorsson,
>etc.. That is as lame as taking their god/dess as a first name, IMO.
>
Well, Eirik, I took Ingsson as my last name, being a bastard, and having been
adopted. I have no idea who my birth-father is, and I am more than half
Swedish, with my American birth-mother having Swede in her. If you would
produce my birth-father, then maybe I would be able to take his name.
I have been a practicing Heathen for almost 7 years, and sworn to the Aesir and
Vanir, formally for almost 4 years. I changed my name legally about 3 years
ago, and now have a family. I don't know how well they'd care to change their
names also, so I think I'll stick with the one I chose.
After all, don't you think it would be rather strange for me to just make my
last name something like (Eiriksson) when I have no idea if that was mt
birth-fathers name? Maybe it was Magnus or Harald...I don't know. I am
searching for my birth-parents, by the way, so maybe someday I'll be able to
find out.
In Frith,
Thorleif
proud Heathen father
S. M. Hewitt
>Well, Eirik, I took Ingsson as my last name, being a bastard, and having been
>adopted. I have no idea who my birth-father is, and I am more than half
>Swedish, with my American birth-mother having Swede in her. If you would
>produce my birth-father, then maybe I would be able to take his name.
...by sad coincindence, brother, I've never met my father, either.
From what I was told (at the tender age of 37, as my mother was torn
up until then of what I would think of her...a concerned and honorable
lady), he was a womanizing ne'er-do-well who scattered his seed
broadly.
I was raised under the name of a step-father who will always be a
father to me. Legally, however, I bear the name the family name of
the my mother's *first* husband...not of my blood father, nor of that
man who gave me his love in my youth and his.
A sad lesson that I am teaching my sons...dogs and beasts of the
street couple and walk away. Men -- such as my step-father -- gather
their responsiblities to them.
What a poor man my blood father must be, having walked away from
children, and their children, who may have delighted him in what must
now be his sixties...all because he hadn't the stomach to stand up
like a man.
I commend and send my utmost respect to parents who watch their
children sleeping each night...and see that they are fed, loved and
safe when they wake.
>I have been a practicing Heathen for almost 7 years, and sworn to the Aesir and
>Vanir, formally for almost 4 years. I changed my name legally about 3 years
>ago, and now have a family. I don't know how well they'd care to change their
>names also, so I think I'll stick with the one I chose.
...my mother's brother had contact with a geneologist some time
ago...an unofficial contact, it would seem. As I can only lay certain
claim to her family, I was keenly interested. It would seem that --
once upon a long time ago -- their current family name (Everman) was
actually von Ebermann (an eber is a boar...which, as a man honoring
Fro Ing you might appreciate). Her mother's family were
Denman's...possibly Dehnmann or Dannemann once upon a time.
Ulster Scots and Germans, all of 'em...so a Norse name would be
inappropriate.
I have long thought of taking a more honest name legally...but, as I
have quite a paper trail behind me, and have half-grown sons, changing
my name -- and, presumably, theirs, if only for symetry's sake --
would be both expensive (a small consideration) and possibly confusing
officially (a rather large one)
That, and having a first name derived from Greek (again,
inappropriate), and appearing most often on ovals over the pockets of
gas station attendants (remember them?) and stereo salesmen, I would
have to give some thought to finding something which would sit
comfortably alongside the family name I've chosen.
...what do you think goes with v. Ebermann? I was thinking
"Schnitzel" or "Budweiser".
>After all, don't you think it would be rather strange for me to just make my
>last name something like (Eiriksson) when I have no idea if that was mt
>birth-fathers name? Maybe it was Magnus or Harald...I don't know. I am
>searching for my birth-parents, by the way, so maybe someday I'll be able to
>find out.
>
>In Frith,
>Thorleif
>proud Heathen father
...Eirik D.'s suggestion, as I take it, of adopting a by-name in place
of or to augment a patronomic is interesting.
Consider this example: if one were to decide to be called
Böðvarr...either legally or unofficially, which ultimately make little
difference...the other-believing world would not think much of
adopting Bjarki as a "last name". Böðvarr Bjarki (little bear), a
hero from the Sagas, was a mighty warrior, and who is to say that it
wouldn't serve both the heathen and other-believing worlds' needs
perfectly.
To the man at the Driver's License window, you'd be Mr.
Bjarki...Polish, perhaps? At moots and things, you'd be Böðvarr,
among the other Böðvarr's you friends might know distinguished as
Bjarki...as opposed to Böðvarr the Small, Böðvarr the Large, and
Böðvarr the Really Good Dancer.
I think that legally adopting a name is a commitment, and I applaud
it. I haven't done so more out of sloth than the reasons mentioned
above.
(Forgive me going on about Böðvarr...I just finished reading the Saga
of Hrolf Kraki, and it is fresh in my mind. That, and just last
evening I was reminded that the beloved son which Egill lost which
spurred his writing the famous tribute poem to his fallen sons was
also named Böðvarr. I think it an evocative name, and it appeals to
me greatly.)
...just a few thoughts....
Dirk Bruere
>
>
> ...what do you think goes with v. Ebermann? I was thinking
> "Schnitzel" or "Budweiser".
>
Dirk
Harald and Gerda
Vithar Herren wrote in message <36438EE0...@spamkill.wt.net>...
>
>
>Harald and Gerda wrote:
>
>>
>> And one could add that so-called "real" names are available for the asking -
>> and if you ask and are refused, then full-rounded re-consideration might be
>> appropriate....
>>
>
>hmmm.. some people might be afraid of persecution... but I'm not, so:
>
>Samuel David Herren (uuuuugggghhhh!)
>5800 Hollister #2604
>Houston, TX 77040
>(713) 939-8676
>
>
>I've got no enemies of which I am aware, who should care to do me harm... and
if I
>did, I'd give em this info. anyway!
>
>It's no big secret!
>
Thanks for the info. If/when I'm down that way, I'll give you a call. I've put
my real name out here numerous times, but...
Howard (skip) Allan Zumberge
651.784-5982
Frith
Harald
Grundair
>>and apply -son or -dottir to it. Such as Odinsson, Wodansson, Thorsson,
>>etc.. That is as lame as taking their god/dess as a first name, IMO.
>>
Admititly some people who take the name of a God or Goddess as a first or last
name can be of not the most intellegent of people, but if one looks at the
past few centuries at the parents of children who have named the children after
the Gods or Goddess to honor that particular God or Goddess. It is the same as
a person and son or dottir to the name of a God or Goddess to honor them. When
I cjose my name it was with the help of the Aesir and Vanir. It is actually a
Scotts Gaelic first name which is Grundair, which means "brewer". for that is
what I do. Karlsson is to honor my father, Charles who taught me Asatru twenty
years before it even had that name. The ones who dis-honor the Aesir and Vanir
by taking their names will have a heavy price to be in time. The ones who use
their names with honor wil be rewarded in time.The Aesir and Vanir have a lot
of time .
Grundair Karlsson ( AKA Charles Hudson)
http://www.unm.edu/~chudson/grundair.htm
ThorleifR
>"Schnitzel" or "Budweiser".
>
Well, Steve, how bout something like "Wolfram" or "Ulfgrim"?
:-)
S. M. Hewitt
>>...what do you think goes with v. Ebermann? I was thinking
>>"Schnitzel" or "Budweiser".
>>
>
>Well, Steve, how bout something like "Wolfram" or "Ulfgrim"?
>
>:-)
>
>In Frith,
>Thorleif
>proud Heathen father
...I've been seeing a lot of Böðvarr showing up in my life lately. I
like the name. It comes well recommended.
Manny Olds
) In article <71uqc9$s9b$2...@clarknet.clark.net>,
) Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> wrote:
)> Of course, it's even less confusing if everyone just uses his or her
)> own more-or-less unique given name. All these mock-Viking names give
)> a.r.a the look of some kind of frat costume party. IMHO, of course.
) By Odin Manny!
) You already have the coolest name on ARA, isn't that enough?
Well, thank you. But I can't take much credit for it. Put it down under
Pleasant Coincidences or Mysterious Ways.
--
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
And hand in hand on the edge of the sand
They danced by the light of the moon,
The moon, the moon,
They danced by the light of the moon.
Manny Olds
) Manny Olds wrote:
)> Contemplating the ersatz Olde Norski names and Viking/mystickal
)> role-playing in general, I keep thinking of hot air. Each and every
)> molecule thinks it is being independent and energetic and expressing its
)> uniqueness. But the outside observer says "Yawn, PV=NRT" and easily
)> predicts how the change in pressure will affect the volume.
)>
)> Think about it--if your desire to express your identity draws you to dress
)> and act like everyone else in your group, what are you really telling the
)> world?
) Who knows. I wouldn't make the silly leap from the use of a screen name
) to the assumption that anyone dressed or acted like anyone else. But,
) as I said, one would have to look deeper than the surface to realize
) that. Giving life to fantasies that because someone uses a certain
) screen name they must be dressed as vikings or, as you stated in a
) previous post, running around with swords is of little value.
As I said "contemplating [role-playing] in general". On Usenet, that takes
the form, not of tunics and swords, but rather of belligerence way out of
line with any provocation and gratuitous stories about one's martial
prowess when dealing with street hooligans and those who disagree with you
on a.r.a.
)> --
)> Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
)>
)> What does the flame think of the moth?
) Heimdall
) AFA/AOR/Himinbjorg Hearth
) What does the brain think of the mouth?
Black-sheep nephew with a heart of gold. Let's see what fun we can have
with the stochastic .sig generator today ...
--
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
"If the world were merely seductive, that would be easy. If it were merely
challenging, that would be no problem. But I arise in the morning torn
between a desire to improve the world, and a desire to enjoy the world.
This makes it hard to plan the day." -- E. B. White
Manny Olds
)>Of course, using some kind of made-up name on a disposable e-mail account
)>will make it easier to slip away quietly if you lose your faith.
) Excellent point, Manny.
And I was not thinking of this as a bad thing. (Else I would have used
"slink" instead of "slip".) We all do things that we regret, say things we
wish people would forget, and deserve a chance for a new start once in a
while. I know that many of the posters here are young and most of them
will change their approach (and faith) before they are 30. That is all
normal and using a disposable name makes that easier. But think of the
traditional advice about making ugly faces ...
) I legally changed my name, being an adoptee who
) is half Swede, to Thorleif Ingsson. I didn't care for my old name
) (Matthew), since oh... I was 13 or 14, and I became more aware of what
) a name means. I am not Jewish, and I have nothing against them, but I
) wanted a name that better suited me, personality-wise.
This also sounds like "wholeness" to me. Having a good sense of yourself
is desirable, but not always easy to achieve. It's easy to express
disaffection and un-mooredness. Expressing *yourself* is much harder.
My original point was supposed to be that the effect of so many people
trying to be unique is a kind of silly sameness--like the yuppy fad for
Hawaiian print shirts last decade. Each and every eke-name user has his
own reason, important and sensible to him. But the net result is *not* the
sum of the individual intentions.
--
Manny Olds <old...@clark.net> of Riverdale Park, Maryland, USA
My two important rules of urban life:
(1) Always be ready to walk a couple of miles or wait a couple of hours.
(2) Never walk past a clean fountain or bathroom without using it.
Vithar Herren
> >>>The great and mighty lord of everything that is subjected to him. The giver
> of those things the mighty Gydhja of Irmin's Way allows him to give, and the
> taker of all things given unto him.<<<
>
> What is it with my sig-line that you and Steve feel is necessary to respond
> to?
>
I'm just fuckin' with you a bit. You sig line doesn't bother me, really. It DID
seem to be accumulating titles and stuff, though, last I saw. However, that's
your business.
Eirik Dudeleisson
>>>It DID seem to be accumulating titles and stuff, though, last I saw.<<<
Only one title: Chieftain.
Our Kindred has decided not to use the term Gothi. Instead, we use:
Häuptling = Chieftain
Jäger = Huntsman (Chieftain's first adviser)
Schreiber = Secretary
In case you haven't noticed, we are slowly removing Icelandic
lore/words/titles from our Kindred -- none of us are Icelandic.
Heimdall
Manny Olds wrote:
> Heimdall <heim...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
> ) Manny Olds wrote:
>
> )> Contemplating the ersatz Olde Norski names and Viking/mystickal
> )> role-playing in general, I keep thinking of hot air. Each and every
> )> molecule thinks it is being independent and energetic and expressing its
> )> uniqueness. But the outside observer says "Yawn, PV=NRT" and easily
> )> predicts how the change in pressure will affect the volume.
> )>
> )> Think about it--if your desire to express your identity draws you to dress
> )> and act like everyone else in your group, what are you really telling the
> )> world?
>
> ) Who knows. I wouldn't make the silly leap from the use of a screen name
> ) to the assumption that anyone dressed or acted like anyone else. But,
> ) as I said, one would have to look deeper than the surface to realize
> ) that. Giving life to fantasies that because someone uses a certain
> ) screen name they must be dressed as vikings or, as you stated in a
> ) previous post, running around with swords is of little value.
>
> As I said "contemplating [role-playing] in general". On Usenet, that takes
> the form, not of tunics and swords, but rather of belligerence way out of
> line with any provocation and gratuitous stories about one's martial
> prowess when dealing with street hooligans and those who disagree with you
> on a.r.a.
>
Hmmm, Let's just say that I don't think the names used by folk in the news group
can have meanings read into them that relate to reality unless one first
determines the purpose, if any, they are being used for. As for martial bragging,
I haven't seen much of it and the arguing is pretty normal and often provoked. I
certainly agree that this issue is unworthy of argument except for arguments sake
however.
Heimdall
AFA/AOR/Himinbjorg Hearth
ThorleifR
>will change their approach (and faith) before they are 30.
Umm, I already did... and I am quite happy, even though it isn't always the
easiest thing to be known for. I have been very open about my troth since I
plighted it. The few exceptions are on my wife's side of the family, because
they would give her Hel about it, and there is no need to cause my wife pain.
(or desire to)
>We all do things that we regret, say things we
>wish people would forget, and deserve a chance for a new start once in a
>while.
True, but don't you think that letting everyone know who you are can help you
keep your feet on the path, rather than in your mouth?...LOL
Thorleif,
proud Heathen daddy