Edred Thorsson posting here?
Kveldulf
I also noticed that his ISP is Texas.net.
Doesn't Edred live in Phoenix, AZ?
If he still does, he cannot have access to Texas.net, for they do not serve
that area.
Either Thorsson has moved back to Texas, or this is not Thorsson.
Sorry if I seem to be making a big deal out of Thorsson posting here, it is
just that my main exposure to Germanic Religio/Magical concepts early on was
Thorsson, and the idea of speaking to him directly through Ng's was very
exciting to me.
--
Everything tastes better now,
The hands, these tools, the fatted cow,
The swine, the wine, the coming feast,
Your Jesus Christ has canine teeth.
-Clutch
------------------------------------------------
Victory runes shall you know
If you want to secure wisdom,
And cut them on the sword hilt,
On the center ridge of the blade,
And the parts of the brand,
And name Tyr twice.
"The Saga of the Volsungs" -Brynhild to Sigurd
Dæg
> Some time ago I noticed some posts by Edred. I also noticed that his ISP is
> Texas.net Doesn't Edred live in Phoenix, AZ?
Naw.. he lives out around Austin someplace. Maybe you are thinking of Valgard
Murray?
Dæg
Kveldulf
Thorsson DID move to Phoenix, from what I understand.
Maybe it was just an organization he was affiliated with.
Well, I know he lived in Austin, maybe he still does.....that would explain
the ISP.
Dæg wrote in message <37C46448...@irminsway.org>...
Nidhad Bolverkson
be, but does that even matter? Online all Asatru are equal, and only the email
address which isn't duplicated is important. I know the wisdom of a man not by
his name, but by his ISP...
I just think its odd people are making such a big deal out of this. If it is
Thorsson great, he rarely posts here. He kept his mouth shut on all the
discussion people had about him, or relating to his works. If I had written
something and people were argueing about it, I would step in, but then I am
like that.
In Troth,
Nidhad Bolverkson
Kveldulf
Nidhad Bolverkson wrote in message
<19990826165725...@ng-ba1.aol.com>...
I guess we can't all be as noble as you.
Look, I just REALLY like Thorsson.
I didn't say he is superior to anyone.
If YOU wrote a bunch of books that meant alot to me, I'd want to talk to you
to.
I think it is a big deal, but not as big as youobviously THINK it is.
>In Troth,
> Nidhad Bolverkson
Sylvie Charbonneau
Ivar Wiljonsen (berser...@webtv.net) writes:
> Well when you think about it who's new age philosophy would be worst to
> get your views and practices from as a newbie, Thorsson or Aswynn? Well
> neither of their books and teachings are 100% right for some of the more
> folkish and progressives alike here who believe in an Asatru religion
> devoid of all "new age/wiccan bullscheisse" which is fine with me.
If anyone on this newsgroup can be accused of harbouring new age/wiccan
bullscheisse, it's you. You have changed "magickal" names about 6 times
in recent memory, you go on about trying to meld the 12 symbols of the
Zodiac with the runes, and feel disconnected from the Gods if you take off
your ritual jewelry to take a shower.
> Although of the two If I had to choose between the two I would say
> Aswynn's work in the areas of Nordic magic is much more practical
> because she doesn't make as many Kabbalist-like associations with
> runeology and beliefs as Thorsson does.
> Aswynns faults are mostly due to her Wiccan past, a few out there
> ultraVanic views, and some of her theories concerning runes like for
> example, she onced deduced that Perthro means 'dice" instead of "fire"
> ect. ect.
I've never seen that. Pray tell where you got the idea that Pertho means
fire. I've heard from many different sources that Pertho can either mean
"dice-cup", "womb" or "burial mound". It's one of the most difficult
runes to classify and learn out there.
Face it, Ryan. Thorsson and Aswynn and Gundarsson are actually out there
writing books, researching our religion and trying to learn more. It's
easy to take swipes at them from the sidelines. When you've written a
couple of books, perhaps you'll have the maturity to learn when to keep
quiet.
Walk with the Gods,
Sylvie
--
"So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth.
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth." --Monty Python, Galaxy Song--
Nidhad Bolverkson
If you want to call defending your judgement noble than yeah... I guess not..
>Look, I just REALLY like Thorsson.
I give him the respect he is due... but like I said, who is to say if that is
Thorsson, and wouldn't it be more prudent for him to be signing his name as
Flowers instead?
>I didn't say he is superior to anyone.
Great
>If YOU wrote a bunch of books that meant alot to me, I'd want to talk to you
>to.
I'll get right on it, I read the previous post about someone commenting on
Thorsson and what not... People have opinions, and I just can't see why an
author wouldn't defend his works... citing points of evidence like Rorik or
others...
>I think it is a big deal, but not as big as youobviously THINK it is.
When someone shows up with a name as famous as his, and no one seems to have
noticed him around here, and after a couple posts he's poof, I just don't see
what the big deal is about that. If it was him what was with the "I am here now
I am not".
In Troth,
Nidhad Bolverkson
Kveldulf
Nidhad Bolverkson wrote in message
>>I guess we can't all be as noble as you.
>
>If you want to call defending your judgement noble than yeah... I guess
not..
>
How "righteous" of you.
>>Look, I just REALLY like Thorsson.
>
>I give him the respect he is due... but like I said, who is to say if that
is
>Thorsson, and wouldn't it be more prudent for him to be signing his name as
>Flowers instead?
>
He did. Or his email was flowers, or something.
>>I didn't say he is superior to anyone.
>
>Great
>
Smartass. LOL
(not angry)
>>If YOU wrote a bunch of books that meant alot to me, I'd want to talk to
you
>>to.
>
>I'll get right on it, I read the previous post about someone commenting on
>Thorsson and what not... People have opinions, and I just can't see why an
>author wouldn't defend his works... citing points of evidence like Rorik or
>others...
>
>>I think it is a big deal, but not as big as youobviously THINK it is.
>
>When someone shows up with a name as famous as his, and no one seems to
have
>noticed him around here, and after a couple posts he's poof,
]
LOL...Honestly, that is how I would expect Thorsson to act.
All mysterious, on purpose.
Ivar Wiljonsen
to refer to me by my actual name. I have realized for quite a while now
that the occultic views and Asatru views on astrology and other issues
do not and should not ever be compared or combined in any shape or form.
I am not being hypocritical or pompous and it is not my intention to be
so either.
My past mistakes are the result of writing posts when I had writers
block which result in posts that were well less than accurate or
credible. I have learned never to write when I have a lack of
inspiration or resources.
It is rather inappropriate on your part to look for fights where there
are none. There's something rather meticulously elephant-like about how
you have chosen to bring up issues which happened quite a while ago, yet
to you it is like yesterday.
Your post is offtopic and I suggest everyone let bygones be begones.
Ha det for nå.
Hilsen,
- Ivar Wiljonsen
"Thou Shalt Not Think Highly Of Thyself"
- Law of Jante
Brian Williams
Greg Shetler wrote:
>
> Ivar Wiljonsen wrote:
> > [snip] she onced deduced that Perthro means 'dice" instead of "fire"
> > ect. ect.
>
> Huh? Who says Perthro=fire? Where'd that come from?
>
> Dux
I was wondering myself where that came from. And Aswynn never said
Pertho meant dice. It was referred to as a "dice cup". Something from
which blind chance spills forth. Same reason it was also looked upon as
the womb. Back then it was not known if a boy or a girl was going to pop
out and so blind chance took over as far as they were concerned.
In Peace
Brian
Óðinnkar Grímnirsson
heard mention of a naming right being done for any your name changes. (and
you have had many!!!!!). As for being of topic , she did address the subject
of this posting . If you had read Thorsson books you would know that he also
gave a description of Pertho as being known as a "lot cup" which is used in
runic divination.
Óðinnkar Grímnirsson
Grímnirstað Hearth
AVA
Ivar Wiljonsen <berser...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24202-37...@newsd-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Hildolf
>what the big deal is about that. If it was him what was with the "I am here
>now
>I am not".
>
>In Troth,
> Nidhad Bolverkson
>
Well, Nidhad, perhaps he came to say something, then decided to do something
other than monitor the responses...he's the Yrmin-Drighten of the Rune Gild,
and believe it or not, that encompasses a lot of work, not to mention that he
is a college professor..besides, his worth has been proven time and time again,
and his fame has spread because of the Quality and Worth of his work. And who
cares how he signed his name? Who are you? What amount of work have you done
towards the Remanifestation of the Elder Ways? And if you've done anything of
Worth, why hasn't anyone heard of you before? It sounds as if you are little
more than one of those small people that thumbs his nose at the Noble because
his deeds are few, and he feels insignificant in comparison.
Reyn 'til Runa!
Hildolf
Nidhad Bolverkson
>other than monitor the responses...
What a fine teacher...
>.he's the Yrmin-Drighten of the Rune Gild,
Wow, I guess that takes the cake...
>besides, his worth has been proven time and time again,
Don't you mean disproven time and time again. Sure he has some great knowledge,
but littering it with kaballah and eastern though does nothing for proof
>and his fame has spread because of the Quality and Worth of his work.
Hah, would you say the same thing about Blume and Conway?
>What amount of work have you done
>towards the Remanifestation of the Elder Ways?
Well I have not spread speculation and downright lies as truth... I have no
forged materials counterproductive to the whole... I have no made assumptions
and declared them fact... I may not have my works published yet, but its
because not only do I seek to get them as accurate as possible but I am looking
for a better publisher than the one most "pagan" writers use, Llewellyn.
>Reyn 'til Runa!
Well golly gee, I wasn't expecting you to close your letter with that at all...
No surprise to me, someone who defends Thorsson so well would naturally be part
of that group...
In Something or another,
Nidhad Bolverkson
Gabe Hodges
I got one easy way to solve this little mystery. Does anyone have the email
addy that he used? If they do, email it to me. I will then send the alleged
Flowers aka Thorsson an email asking for some basic info on galdor-staves
(something which I have pretty much memorized his view on) and if I get the
book response back (or something very similar) we will know if it is Thorsson
or an impersonator.
Damn, it feels good to help do this.
Gabe Hodges
"I know some new tricks," said the Cat in the Hat. "A lot of good tricks. I
will show them to you. Your mother will not mind at all if I do."
--Dr. Seuss, The Cat in the Hat.