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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Apr 18, 2012, 12:07:17 PM4/18/12
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/apr/18/tsa-mission-creep-us-police-state
Ever since 2010, when the Transportation Security Administration started
requiring that travelers in American airports submit to sexually
intrusive gropings based on the apparent anti-terrorism principle that
"If we can't feel your nipples, they must be a bomb", the agency's
craven apologists have shouted down all constitutional or human rights
objections with the mantra "If you don't like it, don't fly!"
This callous disregard for travelers' rights merely paraphrases the
words of Homeland Security director Janet Napolitano, who shares, with
the president, ultimate responsibility for all TSA travesties since
2009. In November 2010, with the groping policy only a few weeks old,
Napolitano dismissed complaints by saying "people [who] want to travel
by some other means" have that right. (In other words: if you don't like
it, don't fly.)
But now TSA is invading travel by other means, too. No surprise, really:
as soon as she established groping in airports, Napolitano expressed her
desire to expand TSA jurisdiction over all forms of mass transit. In the
past year, TSA's snakelike VIPR (Visual Intermodal Prevention and
Response) teams have been slithering into more and more bus and train
stations – and even running checkpoints on highways – never in response
to actual threats, but apparently more in an attempt to live up to the
inspirational motto displayed at the TSA's air marshal training center
since the agency's inception: "Dominate. Intimidate. Control."
Anyone who rode the bus in Houston, Texas during the 2-10pm shift last
Friday faced random bag checks and sweeps by both drug-sniffing dogs and
bomb-sniffing dogs (the latter being only canines necessary if
"preventing terrorism" were the actual intent of these raids), all
courtesy of a joint effort between TSA VIPR nests and three different
local and county-level police departments. The new Napolitano doctrine,
then: "Show us your papers, show us everything you've got, justify
yourself or you're not allowed to go about your everyday business."
Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee praised these violations of her
constituents' rights with an explanation asinine even by congressional
standards:
"We're looking to make sure that the lady I saw walking with a cane …
knows that Metro cares as much about her as we do about building the
light rail."
See, if you don't support the random harassment of ordinary people
riding the bus to work, you're a callous bastard who doesn't care about
little old ladies.
No specific threats or reasons were cited for the raids, as the
government no longer even pretends to need any. Vipers bite you just
because they can. TSA spokesman Jim Fotenos confirmed this a few days
before the Houston raids, when VIPR teams and local police did the same
thing to travelers catching trains out of the Amtrak station in Alton,
Illinois. Fotenos confirmed that "It was not in response to a specific
threat," and bragged that VIPR teams conduct "thousands" of these
operations each year.
Still, apologists can pretend that's all good, pretend constitutional
and human rights somehow don't apply to mass transit, and twist their
minds into the Mobius pretzel shapes necessary to find random searches
of everyday travelers compatible with any notion that America is a free
country. "Don't like the new rules for mass transit? Then drive."
Except even that doesn't work anymore. Earlier this month, the VIPRs
came out again in Virginia and infested the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel,
also known as the stretch of Interstate 64 connecting the cities of
Hampton and Norfolk. Spokesmen admitted again that the exercise was a
"routine sweep", not a response to any specific threat. Official news
outlets admitted the checkpoint caused a delay (further exacerbated by a
couple of accidents), but didn't say for how long. Local commenters at
the Travel Underground forums reported delays of 90 minutes.
I grew up in the Hampton Roads region of Virginia. When I was a kid, my
dad crossed the bridge-tunnel every day while commuting to work. When I
was in university, I did the same thing. The old conventional wisdom
said "Get to the airport at least two hours early, so TSA has time to
violate your constitutional rights before boarding." What's the new
conventional wisdom – "Leave for any destination at least 90 minutes
early, so TSA can violate your rights en route"?
Airports, bus terminals, train stations, highways – what's left? If you
don't like it, walk. And remember to be respectfully submissive to any
TSA agents or police you encounter in your travels, especially now that
the US supreme court has ruled mass strip-searches are acceptable for
anyone arrested for even the most minor offence in America. If you're
rude to any TSA agent or cops, you risk being arrested on some vague
catch-all charge like "disorderly conduct". Even if the charges are
later dropped, you'll still undergo the ritual humiliation of having to
strip, squat, spread 'em and show your various orifices to be empty.
Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
______________________
--
FFF
Dirk
Full Spectrum Praxis : ZERO STATE : http://zerostate.net
Ever since 2010, when the Transportation Security Administration started
requiring that travelers in American airports submit to sexually
intrusive gropings based on the apparent anti-terrorism principle that
"If we can't feel your nipples, they must be a bomb", the agency's
craven apologists have shouted down all constitutional or human rights
objections with the mantra "If you don't like it, don't fly!"
This callous disregard for travelers' rights merely paraphrases the
words of Homeland Security director Janet Napolitano, who shares, with
the president, ultimate responsibility for all TSA travesties since
2009. In November 2010, with the groping policy only a few weeks old,
Napolitano dismissed complaints by saying "people [who] want to travel
by some other means" have that right. (In other words: if you don't like
it, don't fly.)
But now TSA is invading travel by other means, too. No surprise, really:
as soon as she established groping in airports, Napolitano expressed her
desire to expand TSA jurisdiction over all forms of mass transit. In the
past year, TSA's snakelike VIPR (Visual Intermodal Prevention and
Response) teams have been slithering into more and more bus and train
stations – and even running checkpoints on highways – never in response
to actual threats, but apparently more in an attempt to live up to the
inspirational motto displayed at the TSA's air marshal training center
since the agency's inception: "Dominate. Intimidate. Control."
Anyone who rode the bus in Houston, Texas during the 2-10pm shift last
Friday faced random bag checks and sweeps by both drug-sniffing dogs and
bomb-sniffing dogs (the latter being only canines necessary if
"preventing terrorism" were the actual intent of these raids), all
courtesy of a joint effort between TSA VIPR nests and three different
local and county-level police departments. The new Napolitano doctrine,
then: "Show us your papers, show us everything you've got, justify
yourself or you're not allowed to go about your everyday business."
Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee praised these violations of her
constituents' rights with an explanation asinine even by congressional
standards:
"We're looking to make sure that the lady I saw walking with a cane …
knows that Metro cares as much about her as we do about building the
light rail."
See, if you don't support the random harassment of ordinary people
riding the bus to work, you're a callous bastard who doesn't care about
little old ladies.
No specific threats or reasons were cited for the raids, as the
government no longer even pretends to need any. Vipers bite you just
because they can. TSA spokesman Jim Fotenos confirmed this a few days
before the Houston raids, when VIPR teams and local police did the same
thing to travelers catching trains out of the Amtrak station in Alton,
Illinois. Fotenos confirmed that "It was not in response to a specific
threat," and bragged that VIPR teams conduct "thousands" of these
operations each year.
Still, apologists can pretend that's all good, pretend constitutional
and human rights somehow don't apply to mass transit, and twist their
minds into the Mobius pretzel shapes necessary to find random searches
of everyday travelers compatible with any notion that America is a free
country. "Don't like the new rules for mass transit? Then drive."
Except even that doesn't work anymore. Earlier this month, the VIPRs
came out again in Virginia and infested the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel,
also known as the stretch of Interstate 64 connecting the cities of
Hampton and Norfolk. Spokesmen admitted again that the exercise was a
"routine sweep", not a response to any specific threat. Official news
outlets admitted the checkpoint caused a delay (further exacerbated by a
couple of accidents), but didn't say for how long. Local commenters at
the Travel Underground forums reported delays of 90 minutes.
I grew up in the Hampton Roads region of Virginia. When I was a kid, my
dad crossed the bridge-tunnel every day while commuting to work. When I
was in university, I did the same thing. The old conventional wisdom
said "Get to the airport at least two hours early, so TSA has time to
violate your constitutional rights before boarding." What's the new
conventional wisdom – "Leave for any destination at least 90 minutes
early, so TSA can violate your rights en route"?
Airports, bus terminals, train stations, highways – what's left? If you
don't like it, walk. And remember to be respectfully submissive to any
TSA agents or police you encounter in your travels, especially now that
the US supreme court has ruled mass strip-searches are acceptable for
anyone arrested for even the most minor offence in America. If you're
rude to any TSA agent or cops, you risk being arrested on some vague
catch-all charge like "disorderly conduct". Even if the charges are
later dropped, you'll still undergo the ritual humiliation of having to
strip, squat, spread 'em and show your various orifices to be empty.
Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
______________________
--
FFF
Dirk
Full Spectrum Praxis : ZERO STATE : http://zerostate.net
1X2Willows
Apr 18, 2012, 8:14:51 PM4/18/12
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/apr/18/tsa-mission-creep-us-police-state
>
[brevity snip]
Good Golly! what joy it is, to live in the Wild Wild West.
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/apr/18/tsa-mission-creep-us-police-state
>
[brevity snip]
Good Golly! what joy it is, to live in the Wild Wild West.
Hermerico
May 7, 2012, 12:45:04 AM5/7/12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14mKoAptaiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKJSBr1pUDE
1X2Willows
May 7, 2012, 1:46:04 AM5/7/12
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No wonder the TSA fondled her.
They seem to hire a whole bunch of creeps who woundn't get a job otherwise.
scottl...@ix.netcom.com
May 7, 2012, 8:01:09 PM5/7/12
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On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
to be more like Europe.
wrote:
> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
to be more like Europe.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
May 7, 2012, 8:50:28 PM5/7/12
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modern Europe.
scottl...@ix.netcom.com
May 9, 2012, 12:06:02 AM5/9/12
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On May 7, 6:50 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
leftists of being competent. They see the failing nanny states of
Europe and want that for themselves; but it seems you cannot grow
government power in just the happy-smiley areas without it also
growing in the dark and evil areas like traveler-gropery.
wrote:
> On 08/05/2012 01:01, scottlowt...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> > On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
>
> > I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
> > this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
> > to be more like Europe.
>
> Well, they are failing because I have not heard of anything like that in
> modern Europe.
Perhaps, but nobody with a triple digit IQ has ever accused American
>
> > On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
>
> > I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
> > this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
> > to be more like Europe.
>
> Well, they are failing because I have not heard of anything like that in
> modern Europe.
leftists of being competent. They see the failing nanny states of
Europe and want that for themselves; but it seems you cannot grow
government power in just the happy-smiley areas without it also
growing in the dark and evil areas like traveler-gropery.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
May 11, 2012, 1:02:41 AM5/11/12
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"scottl...@ix.netcom.com" wrote:
> On May 7, 6:50 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 08/05/2012 01:01, scottlowt...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
> >
> > > I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
> > > this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
> > > to be more like Europe.
> >
> > Well, they are failing because I have not heard of anything like that in
> > modern Europe.
>
> Perhaps, but nobody with a triple digit IQ has ever accused American
> leftists of being competent.
Their Historical Revisionism, never quits!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
May 11, 2012, 1:05:14 AM5/11/12
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> On 08/05/2012 01:01, scottl...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
> >
> > I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
> > this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
> > to be more like Europe.
>
> Well, they are failing because I have not heard of anything like that in
> modern Europe.
>
Publican Fundies of the Right Winger Skin Head Society, insulting the "FRENCH",
> > On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
> >
> > I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
> > this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
> > to be more like Europe.
>
> Well, they are failing because I have not heard of anything like that in
> modern Europe.
>
like Uncle Teddy: "What do the People want, FRENCH LIBERTIES", look what they
did, they led to the Musliemisation of Europe"!
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
May 13, 2012, 8:35:15 PM5/13/12
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http://www.murthalawfirm.com/mother-3-arrested-pictures-tourist-attraction-airport
"Mother of 3 Arrested for Taking Pictures of Tourist Attraction at
Airport..."
scottl...@ix.netcom.com
May 14, 2012, 10:21:01 PM5/14/12
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On May 13, 6:35 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
tell Americans to vote for win elections.
Any people wonder why I tend to tell Europeans to get fucked when they
want Americans to elect these leftist jackasses.
wrote:
> On 09/05/2012 05:06, scottlowt...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
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> > On May 7, 6:50 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 08/05/2012 01:01, scottlowt...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
>
> >>> I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
> >>> this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
> >>> to be more like Europe.
>
> >> Well, they are failing because I have not heard of anything like that in
> >> modern Europe.
>
> > Perhaps, but nobody with a triple digit IQ has ever accused American
> > leftists of being competent. They see the failing nanny states of
> > Europe and want that for themselves; but it seems you cannot grow
> > government power in just the happy-smiley areas without it also
> > growing in the dark and evil areas like traveler-gropery.
>
> Meanwhile, back in the USSR..http://www.murthalawfirm.com/mother-3-arrested-pictures-tourist-attra...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> > On May 7, 6:50 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 08/05/2012 01:01, scottlowt...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 18, 10:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax<dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> Can I call America a police state now, without being accused of hyperbole?
>
> >>> I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that the government types who support
> >>> this sort of thing are generally Leftists of the type who want America
> >>> to be more like Europe.
>
> >> Well, they are failing because I have not heard of anything like that in
> >> modern Europe.
>
> > Perhaps, but nobody with a triple digit IQ has ever accused American
> > leftists of being competent. They see the failing nanny states of
> > Europe and want that for themselves; but it seems you cannot grow
> > government power in just the happy-smiley areas without it also
> > growing in the dark and evil areas like traveler-gropery.
>
>
> "Mother of 3 Arrested for Taking Pictures of Tourist Attraction at
> Airport..."
Exactly what should be expected when the politicians that Europeans
> "Mother of 3 Arrested for Taking Pictures of Tourist Attraction at
> Airport..."
tell Americans to vote for win elections.
Any people wonder why I tend to tell Europeans to get fucked when they
want Americans to elect these leftist jackasses.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
May 15, 2012, 12:15:03 PM5/15/12
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Doug Freyburger
May 15, 2012, 2:33:07 PM5/15/12
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> scottl...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
>> Exactly what should be expected when the politicians that Europeans
>> tell Americans to vote for win elections.
>
>
>> Exactly what should be expected when the politicians that Europeans
>> tell Americans to vote for win elections.
>
> I didn't realize you elected your police
County sherrif is elected everywhere I've lived in the US. None of the
other police branches anywhere I've lived in the US. So yes and no.
rbowman
May 16, 2012, 12:00:54 AM5/16/12
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> I didn't realize you elected your police
The county sheriff is often an elected office.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
May 19, 2012, 12:02:00 AM5/19/12
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Pelosie, and the Catholic Church ain't no better!
Hitler and the Aryan's, have been in control there for quite some time!
Especially when and where it comes to Warring with the Arian's.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
May 19, 2012, 12:07:58 AM5/19/12
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Police.
scottl...@ix.netcom.com
May 19, 2012, 1:37:06 AM5/19/12
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On May 15, 10:15 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
We elect politicians like Obama who install political appointees like
Holder into the Justice Department.
wrote:
Holder into the Justice Department.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
May 21, 2012, 11:07:10 PM5/21/12
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Under that, there ain't no People, except those with a Dollar Bill.
That, is what the Lake ALWAYS HAS, and ALWAYS WILL fight against!
The War Cry of Mars, was:"It is better to die fighting, than live a life where your ONLY RIGHT, is to PAY
TAXES.
Romney and the Illumanatie, of the Mormon Clique, are gonna have a Fit, when they encounter the Mermen, of the
Calieque, and the ARCH ANGEL, MAGH RHONE EYE!!
But then they never have truly understood, the teachings of the "NEOPHYTE", which is a term Witch's, identify
Newbies by!
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