Well, I think I got you insufferable little cyberpunks in quite a
little tizzy! I think the damage is done now. You're having flame wars
with your own sock-puppets nad no one knows who is who!
Yeah, and I did it without using one sock-puppet or bad e-mail.
Computers ain't the only way to stir things up, kiddies. I really got
your goat with the cyberpunk/hacker post! Hit you where you lived.
Fun!
But really. I think I'll leave you lonely, corrupt monsters to your
feeding frenzy! Let's see what this place is like without me! I give
it a week before you all have not one thing left to say to one
another. You made it ALL about St. Albans. Talk about Disciples! I'm
like some sort of bad-guy wrestler that everyone loves to hate! Entire
NGs go hog wild when I enter the ring and yell, Hey Muttonheads!
I loved all the back-patting, self-contratulations and love,
ass-kissing and all the new friendships developing between all the St.
Albans haters! And all because Art Copeland had nothing to do while
grieving over his mother's demise but to bother Annexcafe! I loved his
prideful crowing about mighty internet deeds and the Holier Than Thou
kangaroo courts, that wonderful "discussion" about St. Alban's bad
angels, as if you were a bunch of Rabbis discussing the Devil. It's
all about St. Albans now! And the ones who said they wouldn't get
angry, got angry. And the ones who said they never insult anyone,
started BACK insulting. And soon you WILL be doing it to one another.
It's your natures, that's all.
So you little kooks be cool and keep ranting and wailing and whining
and flaming and someone somewhere might write a book about you.
They'll have to change the names to protect the innocent of course,
but I'm sure you will all recognize yourselves!
You know, really intelligent people would have just ignored me.
TTFN! You guys are funny! I love you all. What a cast of caricatures!
I'll pray for all of you to someday have real lives! I'm off now, to
you know, write books and scripts and genrally live a normal life? You
can stay here or on Annexcafe, doesn't matter anymore to me. I just
wanted to beat the hornets nest a bit and get you guys agitated.
David St. Albans Pudelwitts, Reverend, author and all around fun type
guy!
God Bless you and I did pray for you tonight.. Be blessed in God's loving
light.
I am going to pray every night for you and I hope others will pray also. You
are a soul worth saving and I pray you understand...
Again God Bless
Art
> Boggle's Sock-puppets now speaking to one another as if they were two
> different people!!! Talk about messed up! That takes the cake. He
> steals my name and makes up yet another bad addy and begins to berate
> himself for what he said about me? This is wild, wild stuff!
>
Not everyone who disagrees with you is one of Boggle's sock puppets.
You accuse people here of being sock puppets, while complaining when
people here call you one. Why is it wrong for these people to do
this, and it is acceptable for you to do it?
> Well, I think I got you insufferable little cyberpunks in quite a
> little tizzy! I think the damage is done now. You're having flame wars
> with your own sock-puppets nad no one knows who is who!
>
It appears that you are the one in a tizzy. The other posters here
appear to be responding to one another in a reasonable, respectful
tone. Of course, they often disagree with one another, and to you
that is tantamount to an attack, so perhaps you do see it as a
"tizzy". However, despite disagreeing, most people here seem to be
getting along quite nicely. You are a notable exception to this
statement.
> Yeah, and I did it without using one sock-puppet or bad e-mail.
> Computers ain't the only way to stir things up, kiddies. I really got
> your goat with the cyberpunk/hacker post! Hit you where you lived.
> Fun!
>
Did you now?
> But really. I think I'll leave you lonely, corrupt monsters to your
> feeding frenzy! Let's see what this place is like without me! I give
> it a week before you all have not one thing left to say to one
> another. You made it ALL about St. Albans. Talk about Disciples! I'm
> like some sort of bad-guy wrestler that everyone loves to hate! Entire
> NGs go hog wild when I enter the ring and yell, Hey Muttonheads!
>
You aren't going to leave anyone alone. You are going to keep coming
back until you either experience physical damage from your rages, or
you do something that gets you into trouble with your ISP or the
authorities.
> I loved all the back-patting, self-contratulations and love,
> ass-kissing and all the new friendships developing between all the St.
> Albans haters! And all because Art Copeland had nothing to do while
> grieving over his mother's demise but to bother Annexcafe! I loved his
> prideful crowing about mighty internet deeds and the Holier Than Thou
> kangaroo courts, that wonderful "discussion" about St. Alban's bad
> angels, as if you were a bunch of Rabbis discussing the Devil.
It's not "all because" anything, except the tone of your posts. If
your angels are good, then you need to listen to them. If you *are*
listening to them, then they are not good.
It's
> all about St. Albans now! And the ones who said they wouldn't get
> angry, got angry. And the ones who said they never insult anyone,
> started BACK insulting. And soon you WILL be doing it to one another.
> It's your natures, that's all.
>
So who's insulting you? I don't see much insulting, except coming
from you.
> So you little kooks be cool and keep ranting and wailing and whining
> and flaming and someone somewhere might write a book about you.
> They'll have to change the names to protect the innocent of course,
> but I'm sure you will all recognize yourselves!
>
Why would they have to change the names? According to you, no one is
using his real name anyway, and we're all sock puppets. Sounds like
you'd have carte blanche to plagiarize these posts without
attribution, and publish it.
> You know, really intelligent people would have just ignored me.
>
So, you are targeting the unintelligent? Why would that be, I wonder?
>
> TTFN! You guys are funny! I love you all. What a cast of caricatures!
>
> I'll pray for all of you to someday have real lives! I'm off now, to
> you know, write books and scripts and genrally live a normal life? You
> can stay here or on Annexcafe, doesn't matter anymore to me. I just
> wanted to beat the hornets nest a bit and get you guys agitated.
>
Good luck on your book. I hope you are some day able to write
something good.
>
> David St. Albans Pudelwitts, Reverend, author and all around fun type
> guy!
Be well and in good spirits.
Baruch Menahem, Reverend, Reiki Master/Teacher, and hermit.
Be well, happy, snappy and slap-happy as well as blessed in all the
things you should be.
The Saint David
artcop...@aol.comnospam (Art Copeland) wrote in message news:<20010808064347...@ng-da1.aol.com>...
> Hello, Saint:
Hell with you, Baruch.
>
> > Not everyone who disagrees with you is one of Boggle's sock puppets.
True some are trolls and simple devil worshiping assholes. Some are
just betrayers, like yourself. Some are simply stupid.
> You accuse people here of being sock puppets, while complaining when
> people here call you one.
Did you not see that someone stole my name and address? That IS a
sock-puppet. And I know just who it is and I love the fact that he
wound up arguing with himself! Either that or some people here are too
stupid to know the Real St. Albans from a fake.
> Why is it wrong for these people to do
> this, and it is acceptable for you to do it?
I DO NOT USE SOCK PUPPETS YOU LYING LITTLE TWISTED SHIT! And you know
it! I cannot for the life of me imagine what sort of ungodly inhuman
monster you have become, Baruch! You really need to seek medical help.
Your inner rage is eating you up and no amount of playing Mr.
Politeness Man is helping. Because all your nicey-nice words are lies.
What's weird is you are playing this game and you know you are lying
and yet you continue like a petulant child. What happened to you? Too
much crack?
> It appears that you are the one in a tizzy.
Highly doubtful. You are the one who can't stop talking about me, and
posting as somebody else now on Annexcafe, trying to get others to
rail against me as well, means that you really do feel insulted,
slighted and belittled. as well you should. Brutus.
> appear to be responding to one another in a reasonable, respectful
> tone.
Oh, bullshit! Who cares about your reasonable and respectable tones?
If you were truly here before, you know what a madhouse of flames this
can be, as you seem to have helped it along.
The Nazis used polite tones when concocting the Final Solution! All
very polite and aboveboard, planning the eradication of millions. Do
you really think EVIL cannot be hidden behind polite words? If so you
must be the most naive 48 year old man in the world! Now you are all
planning the demise and destruction of poor little old me. As if you
could do anything but bark at me. I've been here a longer time than
you, Raphael. Downward spiral or not. But then many things take a
downward spiral when flushed down a toilet like this. What a bunch of
ball breakers you have all become. As far as being reasonable goes.
Rofocale is back. (As I predicted! Geez, I must be a real
psychic!)Wait till you hear how pleasant he is!
> Of course, they often disagree with one another, and to you
> that is tantamount to an attack, so perhaps you do see it as a
> "tizzy".
What I see as a tizzy is the inordinate amount of back-talking,
e-mailing and gossiping you guys must be doing, aside from the basic
"Let's kill St. Alban's Spirit" talk that goes on here all day every
day, and the "What is St. Alban's problem" discussions. And the "I
hate St. Albans and his Jinnis!" conversations. It's all about me. How
sweet, such a tizzy you are in. How can we talk to St. Albans today?
How can we get him to respond? How can we say how much we hate him
this morning? How can we badger him into getting mad at us? Jesus, you
spend more time on me than you do at work! That's a tizzy, brother!
> However, despite disagreeing, most people here seem to be
> getting along quite nicely. You are a notable exception to this
> statement.
You are getting along nicely because I am here. Now, what about
Ellison's statement to Tirza? He doesn't know her and is accusing her
of being paid for sexual favors. Now that's really "being nice." And I
guess Art can tell me to "Shut the fuck up" all the time, in order to
boost his Reverendship points here on the ARA. You are playing a
devious game, Baruch. But face it, you are pissed. You got addicted to
the fight, the adrenaline and now you are out to make waves. You are
only fooling yourself. You are getting sicker and sicker searching for
friends among the swine here and becoming a rutting boar, and a
positive bore and a slovenly boor to boot! You are no innocent,
Baruch. You are an instigator and agent provacateur. And big deal.
>
> > >
> Did you now?
Yeah, I did, freak. No sock-puppets, no defenders, no allies. Just
little old me disrupting your useless life! You feel that,Baruch?
That's you getting in in the "rearward parts."
>
> > > You aren't going to leave anyone alone.
Not that you started attacking Tirza and Annexcafe again. I want you
to know something, freak. I know where you live and what you look
like. And you keep this shit up and I will come for you. Personally.
Hope the ISP hears me. I am tired of your lying about me and others
on-line. You'll have your computer as a hat, if you keep this shit up,
comprende? Rabbi?
> You are going to keep coming
> back until you either experience physical damage from your rages, or
> you do something that gets you into trouble with your ISP or the
> authorities.
You'd love to see that, wouldn't you? Well, no one stopped Art
Copeland from delivering death threats, or Rofocale. So I guess this
is the Wild West. Most ISPs don't have enough employees or money to
police anything anymore. And the real police are involved trying to
track down hackers and crackers who bring down the big boys. And they
are hopelessly outmanned and out gunned. So I guess I'll have to take
matters into my own hands. You leave Annex cafe alone and you leave
Tirza alone and I will leave you alone. You are in REAL trouble with
me right now, Baruch. Do not push it.
>
The rest of your diatribe is trash. You are a skunk.
I will certainly write something better than anything you have ever
written. And you won't need to buy it either. Because If I see you,
I'll stuff a copy down your lying pie-hole.
Good day and have a pleasant rest of your life. Liar.
Saint David.
Everyone here knows I never threaten your life. It was the other way around.
You threaten to kill me with a gun if I ever came to Scottsdale. I know this to
be a fact because I, Pam, and two other posters sent letters to the Scottsdale
police department advising them of you making death threats on the internet..
That is the truth!!! You have caused yourself to believe I made threats. No
Sir, I'm much smarter than that when it comes to breaking the law and making
death threats on another human beings like... My God, after all these years, do
you still not believe I work around law enforcement agencies? Do you realize I
had to go through a FULL background check? You just don't walk in and out of
juvenile hall and teach, pray, with young people that are gangs members and
considered AT-Risk teenagers. If you would like to find out if this is true,
just ask someone that works with kids!
Second! I can state to you to "shut the fuck up" anytime I see you posting the
way you have been, You Bully! Was that a sin? Do you think my friends will
disrespect me tomorrow? Do you think that was a crime?
"Shut the fuck up" with these 3 year old stories! Live and Let live.. Get over
it it!
God Be with you
Art
Albans wrote the same crap he has been writing over and over and over for 3
years:
whispe...@msn.com (Saint David) wrote in message news:<d7b5e36e.01080...@posting.google.com>...
> You said you kill-filed me. You are lying now! I can't understand why
> you would lie! You are a liar? Oh, my God! I can't believe you are
> lying but you are!
>
I did not say I killfiled you. I typed the word, "*plonk*". However,
in fact I did killfile you at home. Here I am stuck with Google,
which doesn't seem to have a killfile feature.
>
>
> > Hello, Saint:
>
> Hell with you, Baruch.
Temper, temper...
> >
> > > Not everyone who disagrees with you is one of Boggle's sock puppets.
>
> True some are trolls and simple devil worshiping assholes. Some are
> just betrayers, like yourself. Some are simply stupid.
>
> > You accuse people here of being sock puppets, while complaining when
> > people here call you one.
>
> Did you not see that someone stole my name and address? That IS a
> sock-puppet. And I know just who it is and I love the fact that he
> wound up arguing with himself! Either that or some people here are too
> stupid to know the Real St. Albans from a fake.
>
I did not see that someone stole your name and address. What are you
talking about? As far as I can tell, you are David St. Albans, and
you are using your own address. Are you saying someone actually
hijacked your identity somehow?
Are you referring to the time someone posted as Albans St. David (or
some other close imitation of your name)? If that's the case, you
will recall that I lit into that poster for doing it. Feigning
someone's ID isn't acceptable, no matter who does it. But I don't
know of anyone doing that here - unless I simply thought it was really
you.
> > Why is it wrong for these people to do
> > this, and it is acceptable for you to do it?
>
> I DO NOT USE SOCK PUPPETS YOU LYING LITTLE TWISTED SHIT! And you know
> it! I cannot for the life of me imagine what sort of ungodly inhuman
> monster you have become, Baruch! You really need to seek medical help.
> Your inner rage is eating you up and no amount of playing Mr.
> Politeness Man is helping. Because all your nicey-nice words are lies.
> What's weird is you are playing this game and you know you are lying
> and yet you continue like a petulant child. What happened to you? Too
> much crack?
>
No, not using sock puppets. I have nothing to suggest that you use
sock puppets, other than your strident denial of doing it - that would
be the only hint of it. I was referring to lying, not using sock
puppets.
As for your medical diagnosis, it is in error, as might be expected
from someone who is not in any way a medical professional, and who has
never met me in person. Additionally, my inner rage has somehow
managed to remain in bounds, without my being driven to resort to
obscene and demeaning abuse. It would appear that I am somehow
maintaining good control over this putative "inner rage". In fact,
since you have seen no evidence of any rage from me, you have no basis
for making any statement such as this.
As for the comment about crack, it is without merit.
>
> > It appears that you are the one in a tizzy.
>
> Highly doubtful. You are the one who can't stop talking about me, and
> posting as somebody else now on Annexcafe, trying to get others to
> rail against me as well, means that you really do feel insulted,
> slighted and belittled. as well you should. Brutus.
>
Would you kindly explain this? And yes, my Latin name is Brutus - or
Benedictus, perhaps, if you translate my name by meaning.
> > appear to be responding to one another in a reasonable, respectful
> > tone.
>
> Oh, bullshit! Who cares about your reasonable and respectable tones?
> If you were truly here before, you know what a madhouse of flames this
> can be, as you seem to have helped it along.
>
I've read all your posts back to 1998. I've read others, including
Rofacale's. I know what kind of madhouse it can be here. At any
rate, the fact that someone insulted you three years ago does not
justify you abusing anyone here, today. Or ever, for that matter.
Sure, people do become angry and lash out, but they get over it. Get
over it, Saint.
> The Nazis used polite tones when concocting the Final Solution! All
> very polite and aboveboard, planning the eradication of millions. Do
> you really think EVIL cannot be hidden behind polite words? If so you
> must be the most naive 48 year old man in the world!
True, evil can lurk behind mild words. However, the converse is not
true - good cannot hide behind angry, abusive words. At any rate, no
good comes of abusing others. While remaining polite may not yield
good results either, it is the only way possible for them to happen.
And I am not 48 years old.
Now you are all
> planning the demise and destruction of poor little old me. As if you
> could do anything but bark at me. I've been here a longer time than
> you, Raphael. Downward spiral or not. But then many things take a
> downward spiral when flushed down a toilet like this. What a bunch of
> ball breakers you have all become. As far as being reasonable goes.
> Rofocale is back. (As I predicted! Geez, I must be a real
> psychic!)Wait till you hear how pleasant he is!
>
You accuse us of plotting against you, yet claim we can do nothing but
bark. This doesn't sound like anything to get so worked up about.
How long you've been posting on this NG is not relevant. Your posts
are abusive and vulgar. You do the same things you so bitterly
condemn in others, and when someone mentions this you become defensive
and even more abusive.
What Rofacale does has no bearing on your behavior. It's an
unmoderated NG, and he can post here just like you can. At least he's
taken the trouble to learn some things about angels. You have not.
Consulting them yourself is just fine, but it's not the only way to
learn. You simply and disrespectfully dismiss other people's
scholarship and learning, if you don't happen to like it.
The downward spiral of a toilet is irrelevant to this discussion.
> > Of course, they often disagree with one another, and to you
> > that is tantamount to an attack, so perhaps you do see it as a
> > "tizzy".
>
> What I see as a tizzy is the inordinate amount of back-talking,
> e-mailing and gossiping you guys must be doing, aside from the basic
> "Let's kill St. Alban's Spirit" talk that goes on here all day every
> day, and the "What is St. Alban's problem" discussions.
You have no reason to make a statement concerning e-mails, unless they
are directed to you. You cannot have knowledge of e-mails between
other people. Statements based on these hypothetical e-mails are
baseless, unless you establish that you know about them, and how that
might be.
And the "I
> hate St. Albans and his Jinnis!" conversations. It's all about me. How
> sweet, such a tizzy you are in. How can we talk to St. Albans today?
Few, if any, posters are actually concerned about how to respond to
you. Most of us know that you do not actually reply responsively to
the comments we make. You abuse; you piss and moan about
conspiracies; you try to justify your behavior by accusing everyone
else of doing every single thing anyone ever did against you, forever.
But you do not actually address the comments in a reasonable manner.
> How can we get him to respond? How can we say how much we hate him
> this morning? How can we badger him into getting mad at us? Jesus, you
> spend more time on me than you do at work! That's a tizzy, brother!
>
No one has the slightest doubt how to get a reaction out of you. It
is very simple, and not a matter of discussion. Simply disagree, and
you will fly into a rage. No one has to badger you into anything.
You are primed and ready to go, and the least comment you find not to
your liking will set you off into a weeks-long tirade.
> > However, despite disagreeing, most people here seem to be
> > getting along quite nicely. You are a notable exception to this
> > statement.
>
> You are getting along nicely because I am here. Now, what about
> Ellison's statement to Tirza? He doesn't know her and is accusing her
> of being paid for sexual favors. Now that's really "being nice."
Both he and Tirza will get over it. This is between Tirza and
Ellison, anyway. It has nothing to do with you.
And I
> guess Art can tell me to "Shut the fuck up" all the time, in order to
> boost his Reverendship points here on the ARA. You are playing a
> devious game, Baruch. But face it, you are pissed. You got addicted to
> the fight, the adrenaline and now you are out to make waves.
What Art tells you (or what you tell Art) is between you two.
You have no basis for any claims as to my internal state of mind. I
have not demonstrated any form of rage. In any event, my rage or lack
of it are irrelevant.
You are
> only fooling yourself. You are getting sicker and sicker searching for
> friends among the swine here and becoming a rutting boar, and a
> positive bore and a slovenly boor to boot! You are no innocent,
> Baruch. You are an instigator and agent provacateur. And big deal.
>
OK, very clever, I supposed, but not particularly informative nor
responsive. It does not address any of the comments or issues.
> >
> > > >
> > Did you now?
>
> Yeah, I did, freak. No sock-puppets, no defenders, no allies. Just
> little old me disrupting your useless life! You feel that,Baruch?
> That's you getting in in the "rearward parts."
> >
You are not capable of disrupting my life, through a NG>
> > > > You aren't going to leave anyone alone.
>
> Not that you started attacking Tirza and Annexcafe again. I want you
> to know something, freak. I know where you live and what you look
> like. And you keep this shit up and I will come for you. Personally.
> Hope the ISP hears me. I am tired of your lying about me and others
> on-line. You'll have your computer as a hat, if you keep this shit up,
> comprende? Rabbi?
>
I would recommend that you not threaten me. It is illegal. If you
like, I will e-mail you my exact address (you only know the
intersection, not my building). You may find that I am more of a
handful than you realize, though, if you choose to go this route.
> > You are going to keep coming
> > back until you either experience physical damage from your rages, or
> > you do something that gets you into trouble with your ISP or the
> > authorities.
>
> You'd love to see that, wouldn't you?
No.
Well, no one stopped Art
> Copeland from delivering death threats, or Rofocale. So I guess this
> is the Wild West. Most ISPs don't have enough employees or money to
> police anything anymore. And the real police are involved trying to
> track down hackers and crackers who bring down the big boys. And they
> are hopelessly outmanned and out gunned. So I guess I'll have to take
> matters into my own hands. You leave Annex cafe alone and you leave
> Tirza alone and I will leave you alone. You are in REAL trouble with
> me right now, Baruch. Do not push it.
> >
> The rest of your diatribe is trash. You are a skunk.
>
> I will certainly write something better than anything you have ever
> written. And you won't need to buy it either. Because If I see you,
> I'll stuff a copy down your lying pie-hole.
>
I certainly hope so. You will not stuff anything down anywhere on me.
I am not helpless.
>
> Good day and have a pleasant rest of your life. Liar.
>
>
Be well and in good spirits.
Baruch
> Saint David.
Care to dig yourself any deeper?
On 10 Aug 2001 00:46:32 -0700, whispe...@msn.com (Saint David)
wrote: