But for the sake of arguments and to get it in your head let me spell
it even more clear out for you:
If I would be available and of your age, I would not take you because
1) Your religion sucks. It is anti-women, anti-progress and abusive.
It failed for centuries to make the world safe.
2) You are a liar, abuser, and forger
3) I don't like yellow and your boat is yellow and I don't like its
name
4) I would only want to live with my Marty on nutshell or anywhere
5) You have no charme
6) You violated my rights an even libeled my state of mind.
7) You defamed and libeled me
8) You are not funny
9) You are not intelligent
10) You are a sinner
11) Your taste is not mine
12) You are not romantic and your advanced are hurtful and you are too
dumb to figure that why.
13) You have no manners and you are abusive
14) I have enough other admirers
15) I don't want to be a helpmate rather a soulmate
16) I don't share your attitude and opinions on anything
17) I don't need anything from you as I can make my own living
18) I do not love you, I do not even like you. I despise you because
you constantly feel that you have to lie about me in order to get me.
Which is insane bain-damaged thinking
18) You are from hell
Just take these as a hint and look for a woman that would not be
bothered by these items. I doubt that you find one, but give it a try.
There are Christian groups. Why don't you try to find a woman there?
I am Ron's kid. You and nobody else will ever turn me away from
Scientology. Your wasting your bum life.
I love Marty for so long, I will love him all my life. It will never
change.
Barbara Schwarz
--
The Dark Bible Women's Inferior Status
Burn the daughter!
Cut off her hand!
Expose her breasts!
Female births get penalty
Female inferiority
God's OK on abortion
Jesus will kill children
Kill the witches!
Moses' mass murder
Rape my daughter
Raping and killing
Silence the woman!
Stone the woman
"Virgin" mistranslation
Virgin's worth
Wives, submit yourselves!
Women shall not speak
Women's sorrow
Rip up pregnant women
The wicked woman
And here the bible paragraphs, where you can find that disgusting
stuff.
http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm
Barbara Schwarz
And your religion? What has it done of worth?
> 2) You are a liar, abuser, and forger
Nobody's perfect!
> 3) I don't like yellow and your boat is yellow and I don't like its
> name
Those can be change easily.
> 4) I would only want to live with my Marty on nutshell or anywhere
Like I said already a thousand times, if Marty was alive or sane he would
not have stayed away from you all these long years. Stop with the fantasy
men and look at some real, flesh and blood men.
> 5) You have no charme
You just don't see it yet . . .
> 6) You violated my rights an even libeled my state of mind.
Simply not so. I am just posting here on Usenet my thoughts and opinions.
> 7) You defamed and libeled me
Simply not so. I'm on your side in some things. Other things I'm on the side
of reality.
> 8) You are not funny
You need to develop your sense of humor. Scientology brainwashes it out.
> 9) You are not intelligent
IQ in the 150 range, Barbara. That's more intelligent than DM and LRH put
together.
> 10) You are a sinner
Yes, we are ALL sinners. We were born sinners. Ever since Eve, the first
woman, ate the forbidden fruit she caused all humanity to be born sinners.
> 11) Your taste is not mine
I have excellent taste in women or I would not be interested in you.
> 12) You are not romantic and your advanced are hurtful and you are too
> dumb to figure that why.
I know you understand that I am romantic and caring and you know I do it in
unusual ways. You just refuse to admit it because you're afraid to open your
mind and eyes to other possiblities other than your relationship crutch,
this de Rothschild fantasy of yours.
> 13) You have no manners and you are abusive
Look who's talking. PKB!
> 14) I have enough other admirers
What's the use of admirers if you abuse all of them and tell them to go to
hell?
> 15) I don't want to be a helpmate rather a soulmate
You could be both - no problem.
> 16) I don't share your attitude and opinions on anything
Opposites attract. Sameness is boring.
> 17) I don't need anything from you as I can make my own living
You might not need material things from anybody and good for you being
independent and no welfare case. That's admirable and good. But, I think you
need something from me or some other interested man. You need somebody to
share your life with. Your life is passing you by and you are still all
alone.
> 18) I do not love you, I do not even like you. I despise you because
> you constantly feel that you have to lie about me in order to get me.
To know me is to love me. You just need to get to know me better.
> Which is insane bain-damaged thinking
> 18) You are from hell
From hell is any religion that rejects Jesus Christ.
> Just take these as a hint and look for a woman that would not be
> bothered by these items. I doubt that you find one, but give it a try.
>
> There are Christian groups. Why don't you try to find a woman there?
Christian woman don't need to be saved from the hell fires. You do.
> I am Ron's kid. You and nobody else will ever turn me away from
> Scientology. Your wasting your bum life.
> I love Marty for so long, I will love him all my life. It will never
> change.
>
I have already managed to change you a little. It will require much more
work but you might come to your senses one of these days. You should
appreciate somebody like myself who cares a lot about you. You should not
try so hard to push me away. Don't they teach in Scientology that pushing
too hard pulls something to you? You try to postulate a hatred for me but
what happens is it pulls me closer to you in spite of your efforts to push
me away. I'm no Scientologist and even I have figured this out.
--
Gregory Hall
Original Scientology produces true people. Not liars and abusers like
you.
> > 2) You are a liar, abuser, and forger
>
> Nobody's perfect!
Those are CRIMES! And I am perfect. I don't commit your crimes.
>
> > 3) I don't like yellow and your boat is yellow and I don't like its
> > name
>
> Those can be change easily.
Don't bother, you will never see me.
>
> > 4) I would only want to live with my Marty on nutshell or anywhere
>
> Like I said already a thousand times, if Marty was alive or sane he would
> not have stayed away from you all these long years. Stop with the fantasy
> men and look at some real, flesh and blood men.
Do you know what an anti-opinion leader is? Well, you are mine.
Whatever you say, it is all garbage.
>
> > 5) You have no charme
>
> You just don't see it yet . . .
Thanks, I suffer since months under your abuse, how more "charming"
can it get?
>
> > 6) You violated my rights an even libeled my state of mind.
>
> Simply not so. I am just posting here on Usenet my thoughts and opinions.
Another lie. You posted to RR that I suffer under a mental illness. I
despise you for it and it is libel per se under the law and you made a
statement of fact.
>
> > 7) You defamed and libeled me
>
> Simply not so. I'm on your side in some things. Other things I'm on the side
> of reality.
Go to hell, you liar.
>
> > 8) You are not funny
>
> You need to develop your sense of humor. Scientology brainwashes it out.
I don't like your humor. It is the humor of an rude animal.
>
> > 9) You are not intelligent
>
> IQ in the 150 range, Barbara. That's more intelligent than DM and LRH put
> together.
How dare you to insult my dad.
Yeah right. That is why you are can't figure why I despise you. Your
high IQ forbits it. Your IQ is 5.
>
> > 10) You are a sinner
>
> Yes, we are ALL sinners. We were born sinners. Ever since Eve, the first
> woman, ate the forbidden fruit she caused all humanity to be born sinners.
That woman never existed. It is a fairy tale in which you believe.
And I am perfect. The original Marty is perfect too and so was Ron.
But compared to us, you are nothing but a slimy cockroach.
>
> > 11) Your taste is not mine
>
> I have excellent taste in women or I would not be interested in you.
Whaterever!
>
> > 12) You are not romantic and your advanced are hurtful and you are too
> > dumb to figure that why.
>
> I know you understand that I am romantic and caring and you know I do it in
> unusual ways. You just refuse to admit it because you're afraid to open your
> mind and eyes to other possiblities other than your relationship crutch,
> this de Rothschild fantasy of yours.
A crutsch? It is also no crush. You don't love a person for decades if
it is just a crash. You now nothing about love. And Marty is no
fantasy. I am not afraid of any man. I don't WANT anybody but Marty.
The entire German secret service and millions of people tried to get
Marty out of my heart but you think you succeed? How ridiculous is
that?
>
> > 13) You have no manners and you are abusive
>
> Look who's talking. PKB!
I defend myself from you. I am not coming after you. I do not post
forgeries and violate your copyright by photoshopping your photos. It
is you who does not leave me alone.
>
> > 14) I have enough other admirers
>
> What's the use of admirers if you abuse all of them and tell them to go to
> hell?
My other admirers don't abuse me. I have admirers that are friends to
me. They are not such jerks. They have much higher IQs than you do and
they know that a woman is not a wild animal on the farm that they can
provoke like you do.
>
> > 15) I don't want to be a helpmate rather a soulmate
>
> You could be both - no problem.
Forget it. I will be nothing of you ever.
>
> > 16) I don't share your attitude and opinions on anything
>
> Opposites attract. Sameness is boring.
You are not like me and I am not attracted by you. I find your abusive
ways is always sameness. Enroll in a manner school if you want to
impress women.
>
> > 17) I don't need anything from you as I can make my own living
>
> You might not need material things from anybody and good for you being
> independent and no welfare case. That's admirable and good. But, I think you
> need something from me or some other interested man. You need somebody to
> share your life with. Your life is passing you by and you are still all
> alone.
I don't need anything from any man. I am feeling young and I look
young. My life does not pass me by. You are the one who is in panic of
not getting a woman.
I am Marty's and that's it. And if I never find him, I am still a lot
better off alone that with an abusive and criminal jerk as you are.
>
> > 18) I do not love you, I do not even like you. I despise you because
> > you constantly feel that you have to lie about me in order to get me.
>
> To know me is to love me. You just need to get to know me better.
Thanks. I have no intention to want to know a lying, forging,
copyright violating, harassing, libeling man.
For all I know, you could have killed your wife and thrown her
overboard if you ever were married and didn't make it up.
>
> > Which is insane bain-damaged thinking
> > 18) You are from hell
>
> From hell is any religion that rejects Jesus Christ.
Jesus does NOT love a person like you. Your Christians think you can
sin all you want and dumb Jesus will forgive. NOTHING will be forgiven
of your deliberate crimes.
>
> > Just take these as a hint and look for a woman that would not be
> > bothered by these items. I doubt that you find one, but give it a try.
>
> > There are Christian groups. Why don't you try to find a woman there?
>
> Christian woman don't need to be saved from the hell fires. You do.
You are the sinner. You will burn in hell. I am good.
>
> > I am Ron's kid. You and nobody else will ever turn me away from
> > Scientology. Your wasting your bum life.
> > I love Marty for so long, I will love him all my life. It will never
> > change.
>
> I have already managed to change you a little.
You are out of your mind. When you started to post, I had a kind and
impartial attitude towards me as I have to all posters if they do not
attack me.
Yes, you changed me to despising you in the meantime.
>It will require much more
> work but you might come to your senses one of these days.
How can a man not get it? I love Marty forever. FOREVER and how the
biggest jerk here thinks I could take him instead of Marty is beyond
me.
Again, if I would be not married to Marty, the original, and if I
would want a new man (I do not but just as argument) I would rather
take one of the millions who are not as abusive and a lot better than
you, a man who knows how to to treat a woman.
> You should
> appreciate somebody like myself who cares a lot about you.
You are an abusive criminal guy who has a stalker attitude towards
me.
> You should not
> try so hard to push me away. Don't they teach in Scientology that pushing
> too hard pulls something to you?
L. Ron Hubbard would say that only a dangerous stalker would post
something like that.
> You try to postulate a hatred for me but
> what happens is it pulls me closer to you in spite of your efforts to push
> me away.
You sure push me away with your disgusting postings. You are insane.
> I'm no Scientologist and even I have figured this out.
No, you are no Scientologists. You are Christian trash.
>
> --
> Gregory Hall
Barbara Schwarz
--
Freedom for man does not mean freedom to injure.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to harm by lies
--
L. Ron Hubbard
> Original Scientology produces true people. Not liars and abusers like
> you.
"Original" Scientology produced lots of money for LRH. But, he was swindled
out of most of it by Scientologists who learned how to do so using the
"original" Hubbard 'tech.'
As for liars and abusers who is it that lied to the police accusing me of
being the convicted rapist and registered sex offender, Cecil Warren? Who
was it who libeled me in a public forum calling me a rapist and convicted
sex offender? Who was it who broke her solemn promise to not reveal my name?
A broken promise is a lie, Barbara. Who is who lies about her age all the
time on the one hand but on the other hand posts in a public forum that she
doesn't know her birth date?
> Those are CRIMES! And I am perfect. I don't commit your crimes.
>
So your crimes described above are 'perfect' crimes? Bwahahhahahhah. If
they were perfect how come they failed? Couldn't you postulate better than
that, Barbara? Is this any indication of what crap most Scientology 'tech'
really is?
> Don't bother, you will never see me.
You will smarten up pretty soon and come to your senses. You're not getting
any younger and your options are becoming more and more limited. In a couple
more years when you are sixty you'll be very desperate and you might grab at
the chance to not live the rest of your life as an old maid.
> Do you know what an anti-opinion leader is? Well, you are mine.
> Whatever you say, it is all garbage.
Please say the "Well, you are mine" part again. I love hearing it. Good to
see you showing some interest for once. ;-)
> Thanks, I suffer since months under your abuse, how more "charming"
> can it get?
You know you love it. Women are always flattered when any man shows
interest in them. And, besides, I'm doing you a great favor. If de
Rothschild should happen to read these posts he will get very jealous and
worried. He might come running to take back possession of his princess.
Heck, I even have the likes of RR getting worried - do you notice how,
lately, he's trying to get you interested in him. And, a married man to
boot.
> Another lie. You posted to RR that I suffer under a mental illness. I
> despise you for it and it is libel per se under the law and you made a
> statement of fact.
The truth cannot, by definition, be called libel. The Capgras Delusion is a
type of mental illness that seems to explain quite well your obsession with
doppelgangers. I am no psychologist but I can read and make correlations
that seem to fit. I think you do, indeed, suffer from the Capgrass Delusion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion
I would see a psychologist if I were you. It doesn't sound all to serious
and probably could be overcome with some therapy sessions and psych drugs.
> Go to hell, you liar.
PKB! But, you are so cute when you're angry. So alive, vital and fiesty.
Every man likes that in a woman.
> I don't like your humor. It is the humor of an rude animal.
It has to be because that's what I'm interacting with. lol - just a rude
animal joke, Barbara . . .
> How dare you to insult my dad.
Your dad? Mr. Bretschnieder perchance? I never insulted him.
> Yeah right. That is why you are can't figure why I despise you. Your
> high IQ forbits it. Your IQ is 500.
No, I'm not anywhere's near an IQ of 500. But to those people with average
IQ's like yourself, it probably seems that high.
> That woman never existed. It is a fairy tale in which you believe.
> And I am perfect. The original Marty is perfect too and so was Ron.
> But compared to us, you are nothing but a slimy cockroach.
Blasphemy! If you were perfect you would love me and not some stupid Mark
de Rothschild fantasy.
> A crutsch? It is also no crush. You don't love a person for decades if
> it is just a crash. You now nothing about love. And Marty is no
> fantasy. I am not afraid of any man. I don't WANT anybody but Marty.
If this fantasy "Marty" wanted you he would already be at your side for many
years. He doesn't want your or can't want you because he is no more or never
was in the first place. You are depriving yourself of the love and devotion
of a real man in lieu of some fantasy that isn't coming true and has about a
one in a billion chance of ever coming true. Such a waste because you would
make any man very happy once you surrendered all your love, passion and
desires to him.
> The entire German secret service and millions of people tried to get
> Marty out of my heart but you think you succeed? How ridiculous is
> that?
They just didn't try hard enough or long enough. And they never had my manly
animal magnetism and my boyish charm.
> I defend myself from you. I am not coming after you. I do not post
> forgeries and violate your copyright by photoshopping your photos. It
> is you who does not leave me alone.
You answer my posts, you put lies about me in your sig lines, you post in a
world-wide public forum that I am the rapist, Cecil Warren, you try to have
the authorities investigate me when I have NO crimes on my record. Not even
a little one like the theft of nectarines. So I can say the same thing. You
never leave ME alone, Barbara. You know you can't resist my charms. That's
why you enjoy posting about me and trying to taunt me into answering your
posts. You even put taunts about me in posts that have nothing to do with me
such as when you are replying to Tigger, Husk and RR.
> My other admirers don't abuse me. I have admirers that are friends to
> me. They are not such jerks. They have much higher IQs than you do and
> they know that a woman is not a wild animal on the farm that they can
> provoke like you do.
Can I help it if they are passive wimps and not real men?
Talking about real men Khan Noonien Singh said, "Such men TAKE what they
want."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh
> Forget it. I will be nothing of you ever.
Well, I can still hope and dream, can't I?
> I don't need anything from any man. I am feeling young and I look
> young. My life does not pass me by. You are the one who is in panic of
> not getting a woman.
That's where you're wrong. You are only half a woman if you have no man but
a fantasy man. To be complete a woman must become a helpmate to the man of
her choice. Even if it's not me, it has to be a flesh and blood man. Some
teenage crush fantasy man doesn't count.
> Jesus does NOT love a person like you. Your Christians think you can
> sin all you want and dumb Jesus will forgive. NOTHING will be forgiven
> of your deliberate crimes.
Jesus loves everybody - even the most corrupt of Scientologist beaters and
slappers. If you would have a child you would love that child even if that
child was acting like a brat. That's how Jesus/God feels. We are all God's
children and he loves us even when we act up.
> You are the sinner. You will burn in hell. I am good.
I am a sinner, sure, but I am saved because I have gladly accepted God's
gift of everlasting life through his only begotten son, Jesus, who died on
the cross to forgive the sins of all mankind.
You can be good - you can be the best and most perfect person who ever lived
in your actions and deeds but you (your soul) will not have everlasting life
without first accepting God's gift of forgiveness through Jesus Christ.
> You are out of your mind. When you started to post, I had a kind and
> impartial attitude towards me as I have to all posters if they do not
> attack me.
> Yes, you changed me to despising you in the meantime.
The trouble is, Barbara, is you consider just about anything an "attack" and
you use it as an excuse to attack back ten times more like some rabid dog on
the warpath. The change I was referring to more concerns your being more
aware of how well Scientology has taught you to accuse others of being that
which you, yourself, are.
> How can a man not get it? I love Marty forever. FOREVER and how the
> biggest jerk here thinks I could take him instead of Marty is beyond
> me.
You can't have a fulfilling life married to some teenage crush fantasy
person who doesn't even, not once, ever say as much as "Boo!" to you.
> Again, if I would be not married to Marty, the original, and if I
> would want a new man (I do not but just as argument) I would rather
> take one of the millions who are not as abusive and a lot better than
> you, a man who knows how to to treat a woman.
Look at it this way, Barbara, you could have a lot of fun teaching me how to
treat a woman. I would also have a lot of fun teaching you how to treat a
man and how to be a helpmate worthy of the name. If we both assume the
correct roles we would both be extremely happy and fulfilled.
> You are an abusive criminal guy who has a stalker attitude towards
> me.
Postulating again? It won't work, Barbara. You know I have nothing but your
best interests at heart. I love you like a sister but would love to love you
like a helpmate.
> L. Ron Hubbard would say that only a dangerous stalker would post
> something like that.
LRH would say, "That Gregory Hall, he amazes me! He knows more about
Scientology than many who have paid a fortune to take all the courses. He
understands the subtleties and consequences of the 'tech' and how one thing
affects and modifies another. He's grasped the intimate relationship between
pushing and pulling, for example." He would further say to you, "Wake up
child! This Gregory Hall is a worthy man. I would be proud to introduce such
an outstanding speciman as my son-in-law."
--
Gregory Hall
Deleted to the end because it was quite incoherent and a dreadful bore.
Please stop associating my good name with this physically abusive, unethical
person uncouthly named "Marty Rathbun." He's a disloyal traitor and a thug.
How would you like it if I started associating your name, Mrs. Schwarz, with
Adolph Hitler?
Mark Charles de Rothschild
Neal Warren aka Greg or Gregory Hall forges Mark Charles de Rothschild
on Usenet.
Neal Warren is a fanatical Christian sexist and anti-semitist who
commits one crime after the other and who
should be incarcerated.