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old man joe

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:41:54 AM11/7/09
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it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and conclude it's there by
chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an intelligent person
but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties cease.

all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these Atheist's say the
" building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what building block's ? they
won't say. and they won't say simply because they show themselves as avoiding the only
answer there is... which God made known to everyone... " since the creation of the world
His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen,
being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. " Ro. 1:20

the wonder of Creation is one of the ways by which God makes Himself known...
" that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. "
Ro. 1:19
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the " they " of Romans 1:20 are " men who suppress the truth. "

the passage goes on to say that these who suppress the truth do so
" in unrighteousness, " which means they are reprobate, non elect; Atheists...
left alone in this world without God by God's choice ( Jn. 17:9 ) ...those whom God sees
fit to " harden. " Ro. 9:18

left up to themselves by God Himself it's natural for these to think ' natural, ' which
is to say, they might as well show themselves as Atheists since these are passed by
( Eph. 2:12 ) for that saving grace which God delights in gifting those miserable sinner's
He's chosen in and of Himself to be the objects of His mercy. Ro. 9:18.

amazingly enough, an Evolutionist / Atheist ( the two are inseparable ) would never,
repeat, never agree to go to a surgeon for a cardiac bypass who has the same understanding
of surgery the Evolutionist has of Creation.

Free Lunch

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:05:36 AM11/7/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:41:54 -0500, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote
in alt.talk.creationism:

Joe, you old liar, you. Who taught you this nonsense? Do you really
think you can get away with these lies just because you think that you
are a believer? Do you think that God demands that you lie to us? Show
us where God told you to lie. Show us where He told you to ignore
science. Show us where your nonsense was given by God.

You are a shameless fool, a liar who mocks the universe. You claim that
God created the universe, but you mock it. Why?

--


Here is what Jesus said would happen to those who are intentionally
ignorant:

"Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten
talents. For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an
abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from
him. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where
there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Sla#s

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:31:01 PM11/7/09
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"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
> conclude it's there by
> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
> intelligent person
> but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties cease.<SNIP>


Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
whole universe yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
rest of it would kill us in seconds.
.
Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
much...

Slatts


duke

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:52:22 AM11/8/09
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:31:01 -0000, "Sla#s" <ph...@slatts.net> wrote:

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>"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:a4naf5dh64a5arfne...@4ax.com...
>>
>> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
>> conclude it's there by
>> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
>> intelligent person
>> but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties cease.<SNIP>

>Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
>whole universe

Yep, as an infinitely small point of mass of infinite density appearing into
nothingness.

For the knowledge-challenged, the universe is expanding and has been for the
last 13.7 billion years. And science says that.

> yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
>rest of it would kill us in seconds.

We don't know who else is out there.

>Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
>much...

Or you don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.

The Dukester, American-American
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Sla#s

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:25:52 AM11/8/09
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:31:01 -0000, "Sla#s" <ph...@slatts.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:a4naf5dh64a5arfne...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
>>> conclude it's there by
>>> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
>>> intelligent person
>>> but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties
>>> cease.<SNIP>
>
>>Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
>>whole universe
>
> Yep, as an infinitely small point of mass of infinite density appearing
> into
> nothingness.
>
> For the knowledge-challenged, the universe is expanding and has been for
> the
> last 13.7 billion years. And science says that.

Funny how you'll believe in scientific evidence when it suites you, yet
ignor it when it doesn't!

>> yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
>>rest of it would kill us in seconds.
>
> We don't know who else is out there.
>
>>Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
>>much...
>
> Or you don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.

But at least I'm willing to learn something new and change my mind in the
light of new evidence.
Would you change your beliefs if new evidence showed that Christianity as
based on a myth?

Slatts


duke

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:44:25 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:52 -0000, "Sla#s" <ph...@slatts.net> wrote:

>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:bjfdf5hv16erhcaqf...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:31:01 -0000, "Sla#s" <ph...@slatts.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:a4naf5dh64a5arfne...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
>>>> conclude it's there by
>>>> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
>>>> intelligent person
>>>> but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties
>>>> cease.<SNIP>
>>
>>>Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
>>>whole universe
>>
>> Yep, as an infinitely small point of mass of infinite density appearing
>> into
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For the knowledge-challenged, the universe is expanding and has been for
>> the
>> last 13.7 billion years. And science says that.
>
>Funny how you'll believe in scientific evidence when it suites you, yet
>ignor it when it doesn't!

Firstly, sometimes I say science, and sometimes I say physicists.

Secondly, I have NEVER said otherwise. You're just not bright enough to
understand.

>>> yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
>>>rest of it would kill us in seconds.

>> We don't know who else is out there.
>>
>>>Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
>>>much...

>> Or you don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.

>But at least I'm willing to learn something new and change my mind in the
>light of new evidence.

Ok, then give me your evidence for life out there, or if you like, lack of
evidence for life out there - your choice.

As I, the more intelligent one, said - we don't know right now.

>Would you change your beliefs if new evidence showed that Christianity as
>based on a myth?

No such evidence. In fact, every bit of evidence to be found disproves your
assumption.

Toodles, woopie.

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