FANTASTIC WEB SITE WHICH OPPOSES ANTI-AA. (AAA)
Rich
If you are interested in an excellent, clean and well presented web
site arguing against the anti-alcoholics anonymous nihilists group
then please check this out. Thank you.
www.alladdictionsanonymous.org.
It is a positive and balanced view on AA and against the nihilists
mentioned above.
Rich
Ken Ragge
Rich,
You are too funny. You ask if one is interested in a "clean and well
presented web site" as if that means anything. If "the over of a book
means more than the content, than this site is better and truer than
yours. The even have pretty graphics. LOL!
http://www.scientology.org/index.html
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
Rich
Kenny,
LOLOLOL!!! You are such a clown - it was a comment to guide, compare
and contrast a contemporary web site utilising the latest technology
with your own pathetic juvenile offering. Increasingly people are
going to start thinking why would I want to waste my time on a jobless
un-educated amateur pop-psychologist, nihilist freak like you. Oh by
the way I'm not alone in my thoughts on you....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaqAHxlGXdQ
This is so funny and sadly for you so, so true. Seems as through 18
years on your mind set produces derision everywhere!
God Bless Kenny,
Rich
Ken
Oh my gosh. You just called me a "jobless un-educated amateur
pop-psychologist, nihilist freak." Have you never heard the A.A.
slogan, "Point one finger at someone else and you are pointing three at
yoursefl?" or never heard the cautions against taking other peoples'
inventories? I had always found it rather odd that hard cord groupers
have one set of rules for themselves and another set of rules for those
with less Time and "earth people," meaning the rest of the world.
In any case, coming from an anonymous coward, someone who just like a
KKK member wears a sheet over his head to hide who he is, it is like
water off a duck's back. I'm sure Frank B. and Bill W. would be proud.
Doesn't it bother you that you do your "spiritual work" in the same way
that the Ku Klux Klan does theirs? Doesn't it bother you that you have
something very much in common with them and nothing in common with
mainstream religion? Do you really think that it is God you got
conscious contact with working the 12th Step that makes you behave like
an evil clown with a sheet over his head?
In mainstream religion, people who get their spiritual advice from dead
people like Bill Wilson did to help him write the Steps (as is
documented in official A.A. literature), are often considered to have
been talking with Satan. I am an atheist so, of course, I think Wilson
was simply one more whacked out follower of Frank B. and his Oxford
Group cult just as you are.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
Ken
Don't you think if you had put the subject heading of your message like
that it would have been far more accurate? But then accuracy isn't what
you are after, is it?
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
Bob
>
> I had always found it rather odd that hard cord groupers have one set
> of rules for themselves and another set of rules for those with less
> Time and "earth people," meaning the rest of the world.
Jeez, Ken, that you've always found it odd is almost a dreaded
confession that you never even looked in your mirror. No wonder you
want to recover from that inventory taking business!
Maybe your taking a closer look at hard core Democrats, Republicans,
Ford owners, Hummer owners, Muslims, Scientologists, etc etc etc, you
may see your own place in your scheme of things more clearly.
--
Bob
Calling alcoholism a disease is
the politically correct substitute for a self induced insanity.
Rich
>
> - Show quoted text -
Kenny,
I don't do AA so all of this is irrelevant - you don't do AA so
therefore you are irrelevant.
Rich
Kyle
Who are these "nihilists"? Opposition to AA does not imply
nihilism.
Rich
Kyle,
Take a look at this guy's Youtube video...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2vK9l5KgKfA
Contained in it is the relevant answer to your question. The people
who criticize AA have decided under their own volition to reject
established social conventions and beliefs, especially on morality and
religion. This is part of the argument and I and many others see AAA
as nihilist.
Rich
Kyle
Which "established social conventions and beliefs" do you suppose we
reject?
BTW, I thought AA claimed to be "spiritual" rather than religious.
Ken
I'm not sure, but it seems that "Rich" might be several very similar
personas on the Internet that writes posts, makes YouTube videos, and
responds to himself with a variety of equally as loathsome personas. My
guess is that he is a "Boz Kemp" that was on the 12-Step Free list last
year that went bonkers because, among other things, his profiteering off
of drug testing and ruining lives doing wasn't appreciated.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
Bob
LOL, and that was the straw that sent your Groopers bonkers? Are you
sure you've chosen a righteous demographic for your games? No wonder
you're jealous of AA!
They easily survive drug dealers, leaches, lechers, .... and Amway!
--
Bob
Calling alcoholism 'a disease' is
the politically correct substitute for 'a self induced insanity.'
Kyle
Thanks for he heads up, Ken.
Rich
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> - Show quoted text -
Kyle,
Rule No1. If Kenny says it's true then its undoubtedly true. To
everybody else on the planet he's undoubtedly wrong.
Rule No2. If Kenny says he is suffering from delusion, megalomania and
acts like a bigot then on this occasion he is undoubtedly correct.
Rule No3 If Kenny asks you round for a game of cards then be careful
he is probably rather good!
Rule No4 If Kenny says there is no Rule No4 then go back to Rule No1.
Have a nice game of craps.
Rich
Bob
Rich, seems to me you've been remarkably successful, at becoming the
persona you abhor.
> Rule No1. If Kenny says it's true then its undoubtedly true. To
> everybody else on the planet he's undoubtedly wrong.
Ken actually said, "it seems", and, "My guess". I believe Ken has some
very valid, even important, points; but obscures them by painting each
point with far too wide a brush. However, in the decade or so I've
argued with Ken online, I can't ever recall him speaking as if for
"everybody else on the planet" Now that *is* a wide brush!
> Rule No2. If Kenny says he is suffering from delusion, megalomania
> and acts like a bigot then on this occasion he is undoubtedly
> correct. Rule No3 If Kenny asks you round for a game of cards then be
> careful he is probably rather good! Rule No4 If Kenny says there is
> no Rule No4 then go back to Rule No1.
>
> Have a nice game of craps.
>
> Rich
How about trying rules 63 *and* 62.
Rich
> Rich wrote:
> > On Jul 16, 5:40 pm, Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 13, 2:04 am, Ken <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Kyle wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 11, 11:50 am, Rich <richardh...@hush.ai> wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 11, 3:26 pm, Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 9, 9:54�am, Rich <richardh...@hush.ai> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Folks, If you are interested in an excellent, clean
> >>>>>>> and well presented web site arguing against the
> >>>>>>> anti-alcoholics anonymous nihilists group then please
> >>>>>>> check this out. Thank you.
> >>>>>>>www.alladdictionsanonymous.org. It is a positive and
> >>>>>>> balanced view on AA and against the nihilists mentioned
> >>>>>>> above.
> >>>>>> Who are these "nihilists"? Opposition to AA does not imply
> >>>>>> nihilism.
> >>>>> Kyle, Take a look at this guy's Youtube video...
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bob,
You have been arguing with Kenny for 10 years??!! - you say "I
believe Ken has some
very valid, even important, points; but obscures them by painting each
point with far too wide a brush"
Really?
The valid argument or even important points you sympathize with were
echoed within AA when I used to attend. Or from its very beginnings a
whole myriad of doubts, concerns and questions were repeatedly brought
into the fellowships consciousness possibly 55 years before Kenny
thought of a book on the subject. His work is flawed and actually a
disappointment. Due to his proclivity, anger and personalization he
lost any impact the book may have delivered.
Rich
Bob
I can't recall ever clarifying on which points I agree, but I guess if
you're qualified to speak for the globe, you must feel qualified to mind
read me. That notwithstanding, Ken's made such an obvious impact on
*you* How on earth could that be?
At least while you're ignoring rules 62 and sixty three, arfer remnants
will be chuckling even louder than me.
Rich
> Rich wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 7:30 am, Bob <invalid...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Rich wrote:
> >>> On Jul 16, 5:40 pm, Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 13, 2:04 am, Ken <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Kyle wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 11, 11:50 am, Rich <richardh...@hush.ai> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 11, 3:26 pm, Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 9:54�am, Rich <richardh...@hush.ai> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Folks, If you are interested in an excellent,
> >>>>>>>>> clean and well presented web site arguing against the
> >>>>>>>>> anti-alcoholics anonymous nihilists group then
> >>>>>>>>> please check this out. Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>www.alladdictionsanonymous.org. It is a positive and
> >>>>>>>>> balanced view on AA and against the nihilists
> >>>>>>>>> mentioned above.
> >>>>>>>> Who are these "nihilists"? Opposition to AA does not
> >>>>>>>> imply nihilism.
> >>>>>>> Kyle, Take a look at this guy's Youtube video...
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bob,
Sorry, but I haven't a clue what you are talking about.
Happy chuckling.
Rich
Bob
Undoubtedly? You think you know how everybody else on the planet thinks,
with one exception, me.
During the process of taking 12 steps and recovering, I lost sufficient
insecurity to appreciate the freedom of being unique.
My 'need' for others to identify with me was replaced with commensurate
freedom to identify with some of the good, bad, and ugly, in others.
Therefore, if your absurd claim were true. it would be more than a tad
disconcerting for me to believe I was *that* unique.
Rich
Bob,
You sound industrially processed.
Rich
Bob
Wasn't sure my claim to understanding others wouldn't be debunked the
instant I tried to comprehend, let alone effectively communicate with,
someone as clueless as you.
Did I sound like George W Bush, Margaret Thatcher, or Donald Duck?
Rich
> Rich wrote:
> > On Jul 18, 12:00 am, Bob <invalid...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Rich wrote:
> >>> On Jul 17, 5:08 pm, Bob <invalid...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> Rich wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 7:30 am, Bob <invalid...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> Rich wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 5:40 pm, Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 2:04 am, Ken <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Kyle wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 11:50 am, Rich <richardh...@hush.ai>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 3:26 pm, Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 9:54�am, Rich <richardh...@hush.ai>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks, If you are interested in an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent, clean and well presented web site
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> arguing against the anti-alcoholics anonymous
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nihilists group then please check this out.
Bob,
I'll take that as a compliment.
Rich
Bob
> On Jul 18, 2:16 pm, Bob <invalid...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
While you're feeling at least pleased with yourself, turn your
attention to these
Naturally these web sites could never attain your own impeccable
cyber standards, but I suspect the content may yet release a severely
repressed positivism from deep within you,
http://godasweunderstandhim.org/makingofdoc.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJbRNJMRnWM
Rich
>
> --
> Bob
> Calling alcoholism 'a disease' is
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bob - Sir, I am completely ambivalent with regard to Alcoholics
Anonymous. I attended but no longer. I researched AA and AAA. The
links are indeed very informative videos. The quality of both far
exceeds the output of our mutual antagonist.
Regards,
Rich