Bishops approve revised directives on withdrawal of food, water
Patrick
Catholic News Service
BALTIMORE (CNS) -- U.S. bishops overwhelmingly approved a revision to the
directives that guide Catholic heath care facilities, clarifying that
patients with chronic conditions who are not imminently dying should receive
food and water by "medically assisted" means if they cannot take them
normally.
"As a general rule, there is an obligation to provide patients with food and
water, including medically assisted nutrition and hydration for those who
cannot take food orally," says the revised text of the "Ethical and
Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services" prepared by the U.S.
bishops' Committee on Doctrine.
"This obligation extends to patients in chronic conditions (e.g., the
'persistent vegetative state') who can reasonably be expected to live
indefinitely if given such care," the new text adds.
The vote was 219-4 in favor of the revision Nov. 17, the second day of the
U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops fall general assembly in Baltimore.
Bishop William E. Lori of Bridgeport, Conn., chairman of the bishops'
doctrine committee, said the changes would help bishops to be "teachers of
the faith," medical practitioners to "follow the appropriate medical
protocols" and "our people when they face these difficult decision" for
themselves or their loved ones.
Deleted from the directives would be a reference to "the necessary
distinctions between questions already resolved by the magisterium and those
requiring further reflection, as, for example, the morality of withdrawing
medically assisted hydration and nutrition from a person who is in the
condition that is recognized by physicians as the 'persistent vegetative
state.'"
MORE TO COME
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wrote:
>Bishop William E. Lori of Bridgeport, Conn., chairman of the bishops'
>doctrine committee, said the changes would help bishops to be "teachers of
>the faith," medical practitioners to "follow the appropriate medical
>protocols" and "our people when they face these difficult decision" for
>themselves or their loved ones.
Interesting double speak there - the directive is about removing
choices so how do they have "difficult decisions" if the idea is to
have hospitals follow RCC boilerplate?
Give them food and water to extend suffering and hospital revenue
indefinitely. Got it.
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Patrick
> , "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>> wrote:
>>Bishop William E. Lori of Bridgeport, Conn., chairman of the bishops'
>>doctrine committee, said the changes would help bishops to be "teachers of
>>the faith," medical practitioners to "follow the appropriate medical
>>protocols" and "our people when they face these difficult decision" for
>>themselves or their loved ones.
>
> Interesting double speak there - the directive is about removing
> choices so how do they have "difficult decisions" if the idea is to
> have hospitals follow RCC boilerplate?
Take away the choice to murder your baby ... or keep it.
That way there won't be such a difficult decision.
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Can't murder that which doesn't live. Are the popes followers dealing
with the question of murdering babies? I thought the church prefers
to murder adults.
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Alan Ferris
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Maybe that explaines why the last pope refused medical assistance to
be kept alive. The hypocrisy of it all hit home.
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Ferrit
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Patrick Barker
Patrick
> "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>> wrote:
>>"default" <def...@defaulter.net> wrote ...
>>> , "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>> wrote:
>>>>Bishop William E. Lori of Bridgeport, Conn., chairman of the bishops'
>>>>doctrine committee, said the changes would help bishops to be "teachers
>>>>of
>>>>the faith," medical practitioners to "follow the appropriate medical
>>>>protocols" and "our people when they face these difficult decision" for
>>>>themselves or their loved ones.
>>>
>>> Interesting double speak there - the directive is about removing
>>> choices so how do they have "difficult decisions" if the idea is to
>>> have hospitals follow RCC boilerplate?
>>
>>Take away the choice to murder your baby ... or keep it.
>>That way there won't be such a difficult decision.
>>
> Can't murder that which doesn't live.
You don't believe that a fetus is alive?
> Are the popes followers dealing
> with the question of murdering babies?
Yup.
> I thought the church prefers to murder adults.
You thought wrong then, didn't you?
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>"default" <def...@defaulter.net> wrote ...
>> "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>> wrote:
>>>"default" <def...@defaulter.net> wrote ...
>>>> , "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>> wrote:
>>>>>Bishop William E. Lori of Bridgeport, Conn., chairman of the bishops'
>>>>>doctrine committee, said the changes would help bishops to be "teachers
>>>>>of
>>>>>the faith," medical practitioners to "follow the appropriate medical
>>>>>protocols" and "our people when they face these difficult decision" for
>>>>>themselves or their loved ones.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting double speak there - the directive is about removing
>>>> choices so how do they have "difficult decisions" if the idea is to
>>>> have hospitals follow RCC boilerplate?
>>>
>>>Take away the choice to murder your baby ... or keep it.
>>>That way there won't be such a difficult decision.
>>>
>> Can't murder that which doesn't live.
>
>You don't believe that a fetus is alive?
>
A fetus is not a baby. Abortion good - Catholics bad
>
>> Are the popes followers dealing
>> with the question of murdering babies?
>
>Yup.
>
Nope they are talking about fetuses, and not just fetuses but zygotes.
>
>
>> I thought the church prefers to murder adults.
>
>You thought wrong then, didn't you?
>
I guess it is better to say that the church finds crimes an
acceptable means of furthering their own political agendas.
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Patrick
>>> I thought the church prefers to murder adults.
>>
>>You thought wrong then, didn't you?
>>
> I guess it is better to say that the church finds crimes an
> acceptable means of furthering their own political agendas.
I guess it would be better if you didn't say anything at all.
That way you wouldn't embarrass yourself.