A Diocese in Denial
khjarvis
While Archbishop Sean O’Malley has moved quickly to settle cases of clergy
abuse in the Boston Archdiocese and shown genuine compassion for the
victims, it is wishful thinking to believe that the Catholic Church can
extricate itself from this ongoing crisis without real systematic and
structural change.
Only ninety miles up the Massachusetts Turnpike, the Diocese of Springfield,
Massachusetts has become a national poster child for all that is wrong
within the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church.
Bishop Thomas Dupre, a friend of Archbishop O’Malley, finds himself
embroiled in a seemingly unending string of embarrassing revelations and
cover-ups.
The recent case of Rev. Paul Laflamme is emblematic of the convoluted logic,
and endemic dishonesty that pervades this institutional dinosaur. Briefly,
the Rev. Laflamme, St. Mary Mother of the Church parish in Lee MA., is
accused of impregnating a parish employee while she was being counseled by
him. Even more telling, Rev. Laflamme’s pastor, the Rev. Gary Dailey, is
accused of manipulating the situation, suggesting the victim, Ms. Josephine
DiZoglio, “get rid of the problem”, and firing her from position as
housekeeper to the parish. Rev. Laflamme does indeed admit to the
relationship.
Rev. Dailey tells his parishioners that these problems are a result of
Satan's desire "to place anger, judgment, condemnation and disunity amongst
this parish".
It would be wise to remind Rev. Dailey that Satan didn't get Ms. DiZoglio
pregnant!
In true Elmer Gantry fashion, Rev. Dailey plays on his parishioners’ innate
fears and anger, while camouflaging the real issue- his duplicity in the
victimization of someone who deserves far better than she has gotten.
Equating criticism of the Church to being a bad Catholic is old hat for
Church hierarchy. Rev. Dailey’s diatribe has taken that ludicrous
proposition to a new level, as he clearly suggests that such people are not
only bad Catholics, but Satan himself.
It is the Rev. Dailey and Laflamme who have brought “anger, judgment,
condemnation” and indeed shame to their parish. And it is Bishop Thomas
Dupre and his ilk that have cultivated and fostered an environment that
breeds such behavior.
Meanwhile, it took the Springfield Diocesan Misconduct Commission six months
to act on Ms. DiZoglio's complaint. What did the Commission learn last week
that they didn't know six months ago? Apparently they acted only after the
local news media informed Bishop Thomas Dupre that they had been made aware
of Ms. DiZoglio's credible accusation. No great surprise here, as this is
the same diocese that continues to employ a convicted pedophile, Rev.
Richard Lavigne, more than 12 years after his felony conviction. Rev.
Lavigne remains the only acknowledged suspect in the murder of thirteen year
old alter boy, Danny Croteau.
Bishop Dupre's office has been quoted as saying that the diocese will not
pay for anything to do with Ms. DiZoglio’s baby, saying it is not their
responsibility to do so! While this bishop is adamant that it is his
diocese's responsibility to continue paying a convicted sexual predator, he
says it bears no responsibility for the welfare of an innocent baby that may
well have been conceived by one of its priests, under the guise of providing
counseling.
“I find it confusing that Bishop Dupre continues to pay for the medical
insurance and monthly stipend for Fr. Lavigne, Fr. Kennedy, Fr. Meehan, Fr.
Lavelle and other priests who have been suspended for misconduct and crimes
against children, but the Springfield Diocese does not feel obligated by
Christian charity to pay for the medical needs of an unborn child or its
pregnant mother,” states Rev. Joseph Soranno, pastor, St. Cecelia Church,
Wilbraham, MA.
As long as Rev. Dailey’s parishioners and others in the Catholic laity
nationwide are content to accept such inane, illogical and self serving
excuses they do not have the right to consider themselves victims. They are
enablers in every sense of the word.
Irrational, abhorrent behavior cannot be accepted and explained away just
because someone wears the collar of a priest.
The Rev. Dailey says "Satan will not scatter this flock." Rev. Dailey,
Bishop Dupre and Catholic hierarchy have shown that they can do that all on
their own.
caillean mcmahon
"khjarvis" <nospam@ever> wrote in message
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> A Diocese in Denial
>
> While Archbishop Sean O'Malley has moved quickly to settle cases of clergy
> abuse in the Boston Archdiocese and shown genuine compassion for the
> victims, it is wishful thinking to believe that the Catholic Church can
> extricate itself from this ongoing crisis without real systematic and
> structural change.
>
> Only ninety miles up the Massachusetts Turnpike, the Diocese of
Springfield,
> Massachusetts has become a national poster child for all that is wrong
> within the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church.
>
> Bishop Thomas Dupre, a friend of Archbishop O'Malley, finds himself
> embroiled in a seemingly unending string of embarrassing revelations and
> cover-ups.
>
> The recent case of Rev. Paul Laflamme is emblematic of the convoluted
logic,
> and endemic dishonesty that pervades this institutional dinosaur. Briefly,
> the Rev. Laflamme, St. Mary Mother of the Church parish in Lee MA., is
> accused of impregnating a parish employee while she was being counseled by
> him. Even more telling, Rev. Laflamme's pastor, the Rev. Gary Dailey, is
> accused of manipulating the situation, suggesting the victim, Ms.
Josephine
> DiZoglio, "get rid of the problem", and firing her from position as
> housekeeper to the parish.
Tremendous concern for the unborn here; and as usual blame for the womyn
while the boys don't get as much as a knuckle rapped.
Rev. Laflamme does indeed admit to the
> relationship.
>
> Rev. Dailey tells his parishioners that these problems are a result of
> Satan's desire "to place anger, judgment, condemnation and disunity
amongst
> this parish".
Satan's desire? How about the hypocrisy of firing a pregnant woman as an
embarrassment?
>
> It would be wise to remind Rev. Dailey that Satan didn't get Ms. DiZoglio
> pregnant!
It would be wise for Ms DiZoglio to sue for child support when the time
comes as well as payment of her medical bills.
>
> In true Elmer Gantry fashion, Rev. Dailey plays on his parishioners'
innate
> fears and anger, while camouflaging the real issue- his duplicity in the
> victimization of someone who deserves far better than she has gotten.
Yup--those awful anti-catholics harping on the Church getting womyn in
counsellign pregnant and then firing them after suggesting that they get rid
of the problem(i.e: Get a D and E)
>
> Equating criticism of the Church to being a bad Catholic is old hat for
> Church hierarchy. Rev. Dailey's diatribe has taken that ludicrous
> proposition to a new level, as he clearly suggests that such people are
not
> only bad Catholics, but Satan himself.
One pictures Dana Carvey's old skit from Saturday Night Live, Church Lady
>
> It is the Rev. Dailey and Laflamme who have brought "anger, judgment,
> condemnation" and indeed shame to their parish. And it is Bishop Thomas
> Dupre and his ilk that have cultivated and fostered an environment that
> breeds such behavior.
It could all be so easy; put the womyn out on paid leave, take
responsibility fot the child, discipling the priests involved in a
meaningful sense. The Bishop would have looked morally heroic.
>
> Meanwhile, it took the Springfield Diocesan Misconduct Commission six
months
> to act on Ms. DiZoglio's complaint. What did the Commission learn last
week
> that they didn't know six months ago? Apparently they acted only after the
> local news media informed Bishop Thomas Dupre that they had been made
aware
> of Ms. DiZoglio's credible accusation.
Defending against Satan?
Or damage control at the last minute?
> Bishop Dupre's office has been quoted as saying that the diocese will not
> pay for anything to do with Ms. DiZoglio's baby, saying it is not their
> responsibility to do so! While this bishop is adamant that it is his
> diocese's responsibility to continue paying a convicted sexual predator,
he
> says it bears no responsibility for the welfare of an innocent baby that
may
> well have been conceived by one of its priests, under the guise of
providing
> counseling.
It may well get a clue about responsibility as misuse of pastoral functions
might well get the diocese involved in a lawsuit.
Separately there is the moral hypocrisy fo the save the unborn movement int
he church while abandoning the unborn in this instance.
>
> "I find it confusing that Bishop Dupre continues to pay for the medical
> insurance and monthly stipend for Fr. Lavigne, Fr. Kennedy, Fr. Meehan,
Fr.
> Lavelle and other priests who have been suspended for misconduct and
crimes
> against children, but the Springfield Diocese does not feel obligated by
> Christian charity to pay for the medical needs of an unborn child or its
> pregnant mother," states Rev. Joseph Soranno, pastor, St. Cecelia Church,
> Wilbraham, MA.
Confusing?
Disgusting perchance?
The Bishop could have avoided all of this by taking a step back and looking
at true moral responsibility. He could have paid for the womyn's costs and
upkeep even putting her on leave. He could have disciplined his priests. He
didn't and hasn't.
>
> As long as Rev. Dailey's parishioners and others in the Catholic laity
> nationwide are content to accept such inane, illogical and self serving
> excuses they do not have the right to consider themselves victims. They
are
> enablers in every sense of the word.
The comments about getting rid of the problem spoke volumes about a church
that feels above the welfare of it's members and further feels about it's
own strictures on abortion. Abortion is bad UNLESS the pregnancy will cause
problems for the church. Christ died for sins. fetuses can die for priests
sins using the church's logic about the beginnings of life.
>
> Irrational, abhorrent behavior cannot be accepted and explained away just
> because someone wears the collar of a priest.
Apparently the church doesn't think it needs explained at all, the sheer
arrogance that led to the altar boy scandals is still very much with them.
These scandals in the end ar not the result of celibacy, of homosexuality,
or heterosexuality--they are the result of an institutional arrogance that
permits anything and then demands aquiescence by the victims and other laity
for the good of the church."
We have had far too many centuries of this kind of arrogance and hypocrisy.
>
> The Rev. Dailey says "Satan will not scatter this flock." Rev. Dailey,
> Bishop Dupre and Catholic hierarchy have shown that they can do that all
on
> their own.
One can only hope, for that will eb the only thing that brinngs about
change.
The problem remains, only the form has changed...........
Blessings;
Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt
>
> http://tinyurl.com/tr45
>
>
Darklady
"caillean mcmahon" <cail...@gallae.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
> The comments about getting rid of the problem spoke volumes about a church
> that feels above the welfare of it's members and further feels about it's
> own strictures on abortion. Abortion is bad UNLESS the pregnancy will
cause
> problems for the church. Christ died for sins. fetuses can die for priests
> sins using the church's logic about the beginnings of life.
<snip>
The Church would probably have encouraged Mary to abort Jesus if it had
happened today.
-- Darklady
http://www.darklady.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dark-Lady
http://www.masturbate-a-thon.org
amban
"khjarvis" <nospam@ever> wrote in message
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I wonder how many of the parishioners realize that they are paying to
support pedophiles? I wonder how many pedophiles are being supported around
the country? There is absolutely no excuse for not paying for the medical
needs of the mother. If the priest was acting as an agent for a private
business his actions while on the job would be the responsibility of the
employer.
>
> As long as Rev. Dailey's parishioners and others in the Catholic laity
> nationwide are content to accept such inane, illogical and self serving
> excuses they do not have the right to consider themselves victims. They
are
> enablers in every sense of the word.
This is an excellent point.
>
> Irrational, abhorrent behavior cannot be accepted and explained away just
> because someone wears the collar of a priest.
The collar makes a priest immune. That is why the church pays for
pedophiles but refuses to give pension funds to the good men who left.
>
> The Rev. Dailey says "Satan will not scatter this flock." Rev. Dailey,
> Bishop Dupre and Catholic hierarchy have shown that they can do that all
on
> their own.
>
If I believed in Satan I would believe that he was in the church blinding
those who stay.
AMBAN
> http://tinyurl.com/tr45
>
>
Pat Barker
>
> These scandals in the end ar not the result of celibacy, of homosexuality,
> or heterosexuality--they are the result of an institutional arrogance that
> permits anything and then demands aquiescence by the victims and other
laity
> for the good of the church."
+ This is your story?
+ Will you be sticking to it?
> The problem remains, only the form has changed...........
+ As long as there are human beings, there will be
corruption, arrogance, war, pestilence.... but also
goodness and kindness and love.
Pat Barker
wrote:
>+ This is your story?
>+ Will you be sticking to it?
+Yes Evil Twin
The story is that you are a looser.
Pat Barker
> The story is that you are a looser.
+ Poor karen....
+ It's all over, honey.
+ We know it is you.
khjarvis
"Pat Barker" <bark...@erinet.com> wrote
> "Pat Barker" <bark...@erinet.com> wrote
> > The story is that you are a looser.
>
> + It's all over
> + I know it is me.
+ Thanks for the confession pantsy.........I've never forged your name.
Pat Barker
> + Thanks for the confession pantsy.........I've never forged your name.
+ Yeah, right.
+ It's over, honey.....
khjarvis
"Pat Barker" <bark...@erinet.com> wrote
> "khjarvis" wrote ...
>
> > + Thanks for the confession pantsy.........I've never forged your name.
>
> + Yeah, right.
+ Glad you agree, pantsy.