The Atheists challenge the elect saying there is no proof of any God... as though they can accept real proof of God...
old man joe
it's interesting to realize the extent of the delusion God says He send's on unbeliever's.
and He indeed send's delusion on them as we read in 1 Ki. 22:22; Ez. 14:9; 2 Thes. 2:1-12.
the heart's of those against God begin their life against Him from birth, ( Ps. 58:3 )
they do so not of their free will but of what is imposed by God on all of mankind because
of the sin of Adam. everyone is born estranged from God unless the Living God intervenes
giving someone of His choice life and the faith of Jesus Christ. Eph. 1:3-12
the Bible word " estranged " in Ps. 58:3 means to be a stranger... Paul illustrates this
in Eph. 2:12 when he tells us that even the elect of God were once dead in trespasses and
sins, stranger's from all of God's covenants of promise, alien's having no hope, as well
as coming into this world at birth as " atheos "... atheists... rendered " without God. "
mighty is the condemnation placed upon man as he comes into world at birth.
how then, since sin is the darkness with which man is born into the world, it being the
vehicle by which the Atheist understands the world around him, how then will he ever come
to accept the truth of God ? he comes into this world as an alien and goes out as an
alien bypassed for the saving grace of God in Christ... of course he will accept no proof
of God though the Living God should appear to him face to face... remember that Jesus
Christ, Emmanuel... God with us... walked the earth and many have seen Him, the Living
God, face to face which profited them nothing... as with Judas.
all the words of life eternal that were heard by the eleven were heard also by Judas. no
power to save by these many words of Christ were ever applied to Judas. as with all
Atheist's, Judas was one of whom the Word of God had no life changing power. and since the
same Word of God has power to change lives in those who's names He's written in His Book
of Life, it is assured that some perish by the Word while other's who are chosen believe
unto life by the same Word as we read in Acts 13:14-48.
it then becomes apparent that the Speaker of His Word bequeaths life unto life and death
unto death. 2 Cor. 2:15-17; Lk. 2:34; Jn. 6:39; 1 Pet. 2:7,8
we then should not be surprised that there is no proof of God which the Atheist will
accept simply because we told him so. Creation is all around us everyday, before our
eyes, but as far as the Atheist is concerned, the Living God certainly did not create it.
though the elements of the Periodic Table are not alive and the elements of the Periodic
Table constitute the human body, such tells the elect life comes from the Living God. but
the Atheist, born into sin and darkness not removed, does not see this. why ? because he
is a work " judged already " in times past chosen not to believe. Jn 3:18; 2 Cor. 4:3.
the Atheist is not outwardly terrified but arrogant about his position that there is no
God to answer to. out of the abundance of his heart his mouth speaks cursing toward the
Living God and the messenger's of His gospel. this certainly defines he is one of the
many on the path which leads to destruction.
Atheism then, is a matter in which those without Light come to know there is no Light
because the Truth does not benefit them. Jn. 1:5; 3:19
duke
>and He indeed send's delusion on them as we read in 1 Ki. 22:22; Ez. 14:9; 2 Thes. 2:1-12.
Not in 2 Thes 2:12. The Christian God does not send delusion.
You'll have to speak for the Jews/protest_ants.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
curtjester1
The King Magnifies Himself
Regarding the king of the north, the angel added: "The king will
actually do according to his own will, and he will exalt himself and
magnify himself above every god; and [refusing to acknowledge
Jehovah's sovereignty] against the God of gods he will speak marvelous
thngs. And he will certainly proe successsful until the denunciation
will hae come to a finish; because the thing decided upon must be
done. And to the God of his fathers he will give no consideration;
and to the desire of women and to every other god he will give no
consideration, but over everyone he will magnify himself."--Daniel
11:36-37.
Fullfilling these prophetic words, the king of the north rejected "the
God of his fathers," such as the Trinitarian divinity of Christendom
[does]. The Communist bloc promoted outright atheism. Thus the king
of the north made a god of himself, 'magnifying himself over
everyone.' Giving no consideration "to the desire of women" as
handmaids of his regime--the king acted "according to his own will."
Continuing with the prophecy, the angel said: "To the god of
fortresses, in his position he will give glory; and to a god of his
fathers he did not know he will give glory by means of gold and by
means of silver and by means of precious stone,and by means of
desirable things." (Dan. 11:38) In fact, the king of the north
placed his trust in modern scientific militarism, "the god of
fortresses." He sought salvation through this "god," sacrificing
enormous wealth on its altar.
"He will act effectively against the most fortified strongholds, along
with a foreign god. Whoever has given him recognition he will abound
with glory, and he will actually make them rule among many; and the
gournd he wlll apportion out for a price." (Dan. 11:39) Trusting in
his militarisitic "foreign god," the king of the north acted most
"effectively," proving to be a formidable power in "the last
days." (2 Timothy 3:1) Those who supported his ideology were
rewarded with political, financial, and sometimes military support.
CJ
mani deli
<curtj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Atheism then, is a matter in which those without Light come to know there is no Light
>> because the Truth does not benefit them. �Jn. 1:5; �3:19
Religions are like fireflies. They require darkness in order to shine.
Arthur Schopenhauer
mani deli
>Not in 2 Thes 2:12. The Christian God does not send delusion.
1 Sam 15:3 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they
have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and
suckling"
Psalm 137:9 "How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your
little ones against the rock."
duke
I said the **Christian God".
duke
Of course, arthur mani deli schopenhauer, love out of hate, right out of wrong,
good out of bad.
I think your light might just be flickering on.
bob young
curtjester1 wrote:
Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
duke
>Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
curtjester1
>
>
The king of the north (there) was atheistic...hmmmm.
Fullfilling these prophetic words, the king of the north rejected
"the
God of his fathers," such as the Trinitarian divinity of Christendom
[does]. The Communist bloc promoted outright atheism
CJ
> > > because the Truth does not benefit them. Jn. 1:5; 3:19- Hide quoted text -
>
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mani deli
>On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:25:27 -0500, mani deli <nob...@rinterlog.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:04:05 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Not in 2 Thes 2:12. The Christian God does not send delusion.
>>
>>1 Sam 15:3 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they
>>have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and
>>suckling"
>>
>>Psalm 137:9 "How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your
>>little ones against the rock."
>
>I said the **Christian God".
I see, so the old testament guy isn't Christian. I guess you believe
that you are a dirty rotten sinner because a lady ate the wrong apple
and the guy whose controlling that isn't a Christian god. How many
god's do you believe in?
Cruel gods = cruel people
>The Dukester, American-American
Dumber than Sara Palin!
bob young
duke wrote:
> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
> >Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>
> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
Aaaaaah what a revelation !
Mr. 'Average Religionist' fails to find a single piece
of proof or evidence about his godly claims,
but when he sees a typo he jumps wildly at it in frustration
Well done Doook . .
you excel in making yourself look like a fool each time you post here
bob young
curtjester1 wrote:
Yes - because they were terrified of ANY group or organisation that might threaten their
dictatorial hold on power, so they banned them all, including intellectuals, because they too might
have gathered and plotted at universities .
Remember how Hitler and Mussolini took the church on side to manipulate their populations before
invading the whole of Europe and North Africa leading to a war that killed over 20 million people
? Ah well - no - of course, now we have to do the
'Heads down and pretend that didn't happen'
act there don't we ?
I was a schoolboy at the time and once a week we were dragged off to church to pray 'For the
glorious victory of our troops on the front line'. It never occurred to us at the time that the
German and Italian kids were doing exactly the same thing. Religion is so silly and pointless
isn't it ?
Hitler:-
I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church
festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my
father, the highest and most desirable ideal.
[Adolph Hitler (Mein Kampf)]
So your outworn, overused, silly communist/atheist jibe is blown out of the window yet again.
Never mind some religionist will drag it out in frustration before the week is out - I'll bet !
Atheists are closer to humanism than any religious person ever can be, when taken over time and
studied dispassionately
I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning
religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the
monkey's.
Mark Twain in Eruption
Bob
Parish *~
"bob young" <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4B2B39EE...@netvigator.com...
> CJ
Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
:: Power and MONEY. Power and WEALTH. That's what it's all about.
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making fast easy money."
* * * * * * * *
Parish *~
"curtjester1" <curtj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b7b21ee2-d70f-444d...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
The king of the north (there) was atheistic...hmmmm.
::: Uh, Dufus.... the JWs change the King of the North every few years!
Where've you been? ;-D
Fullfilling these prophetic words, the king of the north rejected
"the
God of his fathers," such as the Trinitarian divinity of Christendom
[does]. The Communist bloc promoted outright atheism
::: Join a real religion.
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
duke
>On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:28:36 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:25:27 -0500, mani deli <nob...@rinterlog.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:04:05 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Not in 2 Thes 2:12. The Christian God does not send delusion.
>>>
>>>1 Sam 15:3 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they
>>>have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and
>>>suckling"
>>>
>>>Psalm 137:9 "How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your
>>>little ones against the rock."
>>
>>I said the **Christian God".
>I see, so the old testament guy isn't Christian.
Oh, oh, did I just see a flicker of light in the vacuum spaces between his
ears???? Nah, can't be.
Before Jesus, the Christ(ian)child, no man had ever met God, so wild stories
abounded re his directions. However, with the arrival of the Christ (anointed)
child, humankind learned specifically of love, love for one another as God loves
us.
> I guess you believe
>that you are a dirty rotten sinner because a lady ate the wrong apple
>and the guy whose controlling that isn't a Christian god. How many
>god's do you believe in?
An..........apple??? My goodness, mad dog, what are you talking about. It
wasn't because she ate an apple, but because God told her not to, and she
disobeyed.
>
>Cruel gods = cruel people
>
>>The Dukester, American-American
>Dumber than Sara Palin!
Go sarah, President in 2012.
duke
>
>
>duke wrote:
>
>> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>>
>> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
>
>Aaaaaah what a revelation !
>
>Mr. 'Average Religionist' fails to find a single piece
>of proof or evidence about his godly claims,
>but when he sees a typo he jumps wildly at it in frustration
You're boring to have to correct day after day after day about the evidence we
have for God. So I have to have a little fun with you sometimes.
>Well done Doook . .
>you excel in making yourself look like a fool each time you post here
Says the fool.
bob young
On 12/19/09 9:24 PM, in article 5ukpi5lq4md7h9ojc...@4ax.com,
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 18 Dec 2009 22:31:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> duke wrote:
>>
>>> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>>>
>>> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
>>
>> Aaaaaah what a revelation !
>>
>> Mr. 'Average Religionist' fails to find a single piece
>> of proof or evidence about his godly claims,
>> but when he sees a typo he jumps wildly at it in frustration
>
> You're boring to have to correct day after day after day about the evidence we
> have for God. So I have to have a little fun with you sometimes.
That is your problem - you have no evidence and you know it.
Religion is too important to joke about. Thousands die every year at the
hands of extreme religionists. Hundreds die at the hands of suicide bombers
who have been brainwashed to the level they think they will go to some kind
of heaven and live forever. These poor fools get 100% of their sad beliefs
from other humans and no place else
No laughing matter; although we do have a chuckle each time you mention the
proof you have yet been unable to post.
Cheers
bob young
On 12/18/09 8:21 PM, in article pqsmi5hgve8pnmldu...@4ax.com,
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>
> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
I understand that your case is so weak you need to play with my typos in a
childish manner.
Religions 'are' mostly about power of course. Power of the individual
garnered from a god that was also created by the individual.
There now -you have learned something today. Remember it. Then you will be
a smarter fella tomorrow
bob young
On 12/19/09 3:45 AM, in article
b7b21ee2-d70f-444d...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
"curtjester1" <curtj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not so. What is so - the Christian block burned innocent humans alive in
public for almost three hundred years in their insecurity and ignorance.
They called it The Inquisition.
Communism has changed, churches prosper now in China. Vietnam has always
had churches and the Pol Pot regime lived alongside Buddhism for decades.
Early communism was fearful of ANY group that might challenge their
dictatorial hold on power. This included religious organisation and ALL
OTHER organisations that may have had the power to question their ideology.
But you already knew that so why do you still need to lie ?
Lying for a god that is imaginary is quite sick
Footnote:
He who dishonors himself [by lying about his opinions] for the sake of
being honored by others will find that two mistakes have been made --
one by himself, and the other, by the people.
[Robert Green Ingersoll, on being defeated in an election and criticized for
not covering up his atheism ("If I had denied being an infidel, I might
have obtained an office.), quoted from the book Ingersoll the
Magnificent, edited by Joseph Lewis.
duke
>
>
>
>On 12/19/09 9:24 PM, in article 5ukpi5lq4md7h9ojc...@4ax.com,
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On 18 Dec 2009 22:31:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
>>>
>>> Aaaaaah what a revelation !
>>>
>>> Mr. 'Average Religionist' fails to find a single piece
>>> of proof or evidence about his godly claims,
>>> but when he sees a typo he jumps wildly at it in frustration
>>
>> You're boring to have to correct day after day after day about the evidence we
>> have for God. So I have to have a little fun with you sometimes.
>
>That is your problem - you have no evidence and you know it.
The evidence of my words is everywhere.
>Religion is too important to joke about. Thousands die every year at the
>hands of extreme religionists.
Sorry. Hitler, stalin, pol pot, saddam, genghis khan and the rest of the mass
murderers were not extreme nor religious. They were atheists.
duke
>
>
>
>On 12/18/09 8:21 PM, in article pqsmi5hgve8pnmldu...@4ax.com,
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>>
>> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
>
>I understand that your case is so weak you need to play with my typos in a
>childish manner.
No, disregarding your typos, you still made no point.
Bob Young
On 12/26/09 8:57 PM, in article rt1cj51fci14dtlpg...@4ax.com,
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 24 Dec 2009 22:43:01 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/19/09 9:24 PM, in article 5ukpi5lq4md7h9ojc...@4ax.com,
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18 Dec 2009 22:31:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
>>>>
>>>> Aaaaaah what a revelation !
>>>>
>>>> Mr. 'Average Religionist' fails to find a single piece
>>>> of proof or evidence about his godly claims,
>>>> but when he sees a typo he jumps wildly at it in frustration
>>>
>>> You're boring to have to correct day after day after day about the evidence
>>> we
>>> have for God. So I have to have a little fun with you sometimes.
>>
>> That is your problem - you have no evidence and you know it.
>
> The evidence of my words is everywhere.
Then show. Failing that admit that you are a failure.
>
>> Religion is too important to joke about. Thousands die every year at the
>> hands of extreme religionists.
>
> Sorry. Hitler, stalin, pol pot, saddam, genghis khan and the rest of the mass
> murderers were not extreme nor religious. They were atheists.
"I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a
pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the
natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted
by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of
Providence." - Adolf Hitler, speech July 5, 1944
As usual DOOK you spout through the wrong hole in your body.
Are you so stupid that you think all bad people are atheists and all good
ones are Christians ? If so please do try to GROW UP
Also noted that my point about thousands dying daily in the name of some
religion or other was conveniently glossed over - apparently then, you
approve.
How nice of you ! What an example !
Bob Young
On 12/26/09 8:58 PM, in article 132cj594c953n3lgt...@4ax.com,
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 24 Dec 2009 22:47:01 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/09 8:21 PM, in article pqsmi5hgve8pnmldu...@4ax.com,
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18 Dec 2009 02:18:05 -0600, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice confiration that religions are all about 'power' CJ.
>>>
>>> You don't understand confiration [sic], so you?
>>
>> I understand that your case is so weak you need to play with my typos in a
>> childish manner.
>
> No, disregarding your typos, you still made no point.
Oh I make points all of the time whilst you struggle to deal with them
Here's a good point for the likes of you -
You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries
of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is
the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
intelligent enough.
[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
duke
>> The evidence of my words is everywhere.
>Then show. Failing that admit that you are a failure.
Open your eyes.
>>> Religion is too important to joke about. Thousands die every year at the
>>> hands of extreme religionists.
>>
>> Sorry. Hitler, stalin, pol pot, saddam, genghis khan and the rest of the mass
>> murderers were not extreme nor religious. They were atheists.
>
>"I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a
>pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the
>natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted
>by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of
>Providence." - Adolf Hitler, speech July 5, 1944
>As usual DOOK you spout through the wrong hole in your body.
A pious man that gasses 6 million Jews??? And you believe him?
>Are you so stupid that you think all bad people are atheists and all good
>ones are Christians ? If so please do try to GROW UP
No, I never said such a thing. There are many good atheists and many bad
so-called Christians.
What you call yourself is not of any value. What counts is what's in your
heart.
>Also noted that my point about thousands dying daily in the name of some
>religion or other was conveniently glossed over - apparently then, you
>approve.
Yet you believe hitler.
duke
>> No, disregarding your typos, you still made no point.
>Oh I make points all of the time whilst you struggle to deal with them
>Here's a good point for the likes of you -
>You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries
>of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is
>the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
>intelligent enough.
>[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
Animals have animal souls, not human souls.
teresita
> Animals have animal souls, not human souls.
Humans are animals. Ape family of mammals, as a matter of fact.
--
Teresita
http://hackylinux.blogspot.com/
duke
>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0600, duke wrote:
>
>> Animals have animal souls, not human souls.
>
>Humans are animals. Ape family of mammals, as a matter of fact.
No, it's called the missing link for a reason.
Bob Young
On 1/1/10 8:48 PM, in article ijrrj5tm3arstivi0...@4ax.com,
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2009 21:57:01 -0600, Bob Young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>>> The evidence of my words is everywhere.
>> Then show. Failing that admit that you are a failure.
>
> Open your eyes.
>
>>>> Religion is too important to joke about. Thousands die every year at the
>>>> hands of extreme religionists.
>>>
>>> Sorry. Hitler, stalin, pol pot, saddam, genghis khan and the rest of the
>>> mass
>>> murderers were not extreme nor religious. They were atheists.
>>
>> "I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a
>> pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the
>> natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted
>> by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of
>> Providence." - Adolf Hitler, speech July 5, 1944
>
>> As usual DOOK you spout through the wrong hole in your body.
>
> A pious man that gasses 6 million Jews??? And you believe him?
Of course not - he used people, just like priests use people lying through
the teeth
>
>> Are you so stupid that you think all bad people are atheists and all good
>> ones are Christians ? If so please do try to GROW UP
>
> No, I never said such a thing. There are many good atheists and many bad
> so-called Christians.
Well nice to know we are getting somewhere
>
> What you call yourself is not of any value. What counts is what's in your
> heart.
Wow agreeing with Dook twice in a row, must be some kinda' record !
>
>> Also noted that my point about thousands dying daily in the name of some
>> religion or other was conveniently glossed over - apparently then, you
>> approve.
>
> Yet you believe hitler.
WHERE did I say I believed Hitler ? N O W H E R E
Can you not debate without using lies and distortion, or does it come kinda
'natural' to those trying to justify a set of myths and fables that show
themselves off under the misguided title of 'a religion'? All I did was
provide a 'Hitler quote' showing - how some people who claim to be
Christians can also be despicable dictators.
Mind you - I did believe Hitler when he and his propaganda chief declared
this . . . "Tell a big lie to the populace, tell it to them often enough
and sooner or later they will all believe it"
Exactly and precisely the same concept and methods that are used in
religious teachings. Prove me wrong . . . . I challenge you.
Bob Young
On 1/1/10 8:49 PM, in article 4prrj558qndjoqq07...@4ax.com,
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2009 22:00:01 -0600, Bob Young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>>> No, disregarding your typos, you still made no point.
>> Oh I make points all of the time whilst you struggle to deal with them
>
>> Here's a good point for the likes of you -
>
>> You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries
>> of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is
>> the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
>> intelligent enough.
>> [Aldous Leonard Huxley]
>
> Animals have animal souls, not human souls.
Written by a Buffoon who is totally incapable of defining the word 'Soul'
Bob Young
On 1/2/10 3:59 AM, in article g0lsj5hrdupkhfhho...@4ax.com,
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 1 Jan 2010 18:57:19 GMT, teresita <rub...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0600, duke wrote:
>>
>>> Animals have animal souls, not human souls.
>>
>> Humans are animals. Ape family of mammals, as a matter of fact.
>
> No, it's called the missing link for a reason.
You are not only a Buffoon - you are totally out of date.
duke
>> What you call yourself is not of any value. What counts is what's in your
>> heart.
>Wow agreeing with Dook twice in a row, must be some kinda' record !
Yep, you're sounding like a Christian.
>>> Also noted that my point about thousands dying daily in the name of some
>>> religion or other was conveniently glossed over - apparently then, you
>>> approve.
>> Yet you believe hitler.
>WHERE did I say I believed Hitler ? N O W H E R E
You believe he was a Christian, don't you.
>Can you not debate without using lies and distortion, or does it come kinda
>'natural' to those trying to justify a set of myths and fables that show
>themselves off under the misguided title of 'a religion'? All I did was
>provide a 'Hitler quote' showing - how some people who claim to be
>Christians can also be despicable dictators.
Well, now, that's a much more accurate statement to make.
>Mind you - I did believe Hitler when he and his propaganda chief declared
>this . . . "Tell a big lie to the populace, tell it to them often enough
>and sooner or later they will all believe it"
Could be.
>Exactly and precisely the same concept and methods that are used in
>religious teachings. Prove me wrong . . . . I challenge you.
Our human intellect and intelligence is the driving force sufficient to say that
the existence of God is the only reality that makes sense. Creation of the
universe (something from nothing into nothingness) and a God of love are strong
driving concepts. A gun to a head is not.
duke
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>
>
>On 1/2/10 3:59 AM, in article g0lsj5hrdupkhfhho...@4ax.com,
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1 Jan 2010 18:57:19 GMT, teresita <rub...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0600, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Animals have animal souls, not human souls.
>>>
>>> Humans are animals. Ape family of mammals, as a matter of fact.
>>
>> No, it's called the missing link for a reason.
>
>You are not only a Buffoon - you are totally out of date.
As far as I know, it's still called the missing link.
duke
>
>
>
>On 1/1/10 8:49 PM, in article 4prrj558qndjoqq07...@4ax.com,
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On 31 Dec 2009 22:00:01 -0600, Bob Young <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> No, disregarding your typos, you still made no point.
>>> Oh I make points all of the time whilst you struggle to deal with them
>>
>>> Here's a good point for the likes of you -
>>
>>> You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries
>>> of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is
>>> the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
>>> intelligent enough.
>>> [Aldous Leonard Huxley]
>>
>> Animals have animal souls, not human souls.
>
>Written by a Buffoon who is totally incapable of defining the word 'Soul'
A cat will always be a cat, a cow will always be a cow, and a human being will
always be a human being.
You can figure it out. Give it a shot.
mani deli
>As far as I know, it's still called the missing link.
Which show that you don't know. Nor are you interested or
knowledgeable about anything more than your fanatic interpretation of
Bible Babble.
mani deli
"So long as men are not trained to withhold judgment in the absence of
evidence, they will be led astray by cocksure prophets, and it is
likely that their leaders will be either ignorant fanatics or
dishonest charlatans." Bertrand Russell
"If you think that your belief is based upon reason, you will support
it by argument, rather then by persecution, and will abandon it if the
argument goes against you. But if your belief is based on faith, you
will realize that argument is useless and will therefore result to
force either in the form of persecution or by stunting and distorting
the minds of the young in what is called "education"."
[Bertrand Russell]
"I think that in philosophical strictness at the level where one
doubts the existence of material objects and holds that the world
may have existed for only five minutes, I ought to call myself an
agnostic; but, for all practical purposes, I am an atheist. I do
not think the existence of the Christian God any more probable than
the existence of the Gods of Olympus or Valhalla. To take another
illustration: nobody can prove that there is not between Earth and
Mars a china teapot revolving in an elliptic orbit, but nobody
thinks this sufficiently likely to be taken into account in
practice. I think the Christian God just as unlikely."
[Bertrand Russell]
Never underestimate the gullibility of the faithful.
Nickname unavailable
you are correct.
Lord Calvert
> "If you think that your belief is based upon reason, you will support
> it by argument, rather then by persecution, and will abandon it if the
> argument goes against you. But if your belief is based on faith, you
> will realize that argument is useless and will therefore result to
> force either in the form of persecution or by stunting and distorting
> the minds of the young in what is called "education"."
> [Bertrand Russell]
"If you believe Christianity to be a good, it never can do any church
any good to put a man in jail for the expression of opinion. Any
church that imprisons a man because he has used an argument against
its creed, will simply convince the world that it cannot answer the
argument. Christianity will never reap any honor, will never reap any
profit, from persecution. It is a poor, cowardly, dastardly way of
answering arguments. No gentleman will do it -- no civilized man ever
did do it -- no decent human being ever did, or ever will." - Robert
Green Ingersoll (R-IL), Closing Arguments for the defense, Reynolds
Blasphemy Trial (1887)
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Paranormal Phycology
Smiler
> "So long as men are not trained to withhold judgment in the absence of
> evidence, they will be led astray by cocksure prophets, and it is
> likely that their leaders will be either ignorant fanatics or
> dishonest charlatans." Bertrand Russell
>
>
> "If you think that your belief is based upon reason, you will support
> argument goes against you. But if your belief is based on faith, you
> will realize that argument is useless and will therefore result to
> force either in the form of persecution or by stunting and distorting
> the minds of the young in what is called "education"."
> [Bertrand Russell]
>
> "I think that in philosophical strictness at the level where one
> doubts the existence of material objects and holds that the world
> may have existed for only five minutes, I ought to call myself an
> agnostic; but, for all practical purposes, I am an atheist. I do
> not think the existence of the Christian God any more probable than
> the existence of the Gods of Olympus or Valhalla. To take another
> illustration: nobody can prove that there is not between Earth and
> Mars a china teapot revolving in an elliptic orbit, but nobody
> thinks this sufficiently likely to be taken into account in
> practice. I think the Christian God just as unlikely."
> [Bertrand Russell]
>
> Never underestimate the gullibility of the faithful.
Thank you for those quotes but I have to point out that Russell knew the
difference between 'then' and 'than' and the correct usage of those words.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
Smiler
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:41:54 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> As far as I know, it's still called the missing link.
>
> Which show that you don't know. Nor are you interested or
> knowledgeable about anything more than your fanatic interpretation of
> Bible Babble.
>
But there are several missing links:
The link between puke and reality is missing.
The link between puke and honesty is missing.
The link between puke and sanity is missing.
The link between puke and decency is missing.
The link between puke and knowledge is missing.
The link between puke and thinking is missing.
duke
>On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:41:54 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>As far as I know, it's still called the missing link.
>
>Which show that you don't know. Nor are you interested or
>knowledgeable about anything more than your fanatic interpretation of
>Bible Babble.
So, mani, which side of the link do you come from?
duke
>mani deli wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:41:54 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> As far as I know, it's still called the missing link.
>>
>> Which show that you don't know. Nor are you interested or
>> knowledgeable about anything more than your fanatic interpretation of
>> Bible Babble.
>>
>
>But there are several missing links:
>The link between puke and reality is missing.
>The link between puke and honesty is missing.
>The link between puke and sanity is missing.
>The link between puke and decency is missing.
>The link between puke and knowledge is missing.
>The link between puke and thinking is missing.
You lost your copy? I have some extras if you want one.
Smiler
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 03:27:27 -0000, "Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com>
> wrote:
>
>> mani deli wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:41:54 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> As far as I know, it's still called the missing link.
>>>
>>> Which show that you don't know. Nor are you interested or
>>> knowledgeable about anything more than your fanatic interpretation
>>> of Bible Babble.
>>>
>>
>> But there are several missing links:
>> The link between puke and reality is missing.
>> The link between puke and honesty is missing.
>> The link between puke and sanity is missing.
>> The link between puke and decency is missing.
>> The link between puke and knowledge is missing.
>> The link between puke and thinking is missing.
>
> You lost your copy?
Copy of what?
> I have some extras if you want one.
I want nothing from you, hurl, except your disappearance from a.a.
duke
>duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 03:27:27 -0000, "Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> mani deli wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:41:54 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know, it's still called the missing link.
>>>>
>>>> Which show that you don't know. Nor are you interested or
>>>> knowledgeable about anything more than your fanatic interpretation
>>>> of Bible Babble.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But there are several missing links:
>>> The link between puke and reality is missing.
>>> The link between puke and honesty is missing.
>>> The link between puke and sanity is missing.
>>> The link between puke and decency is missing.
>>> The link between puke and knowledge is missing.
>>> The link between puke and thinking is missing.
>>
>> You lost your copy?
>
>Copy of what?
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