Re: SECOND HAND ALCOHOLISM / the denial of AA
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> The following document has been presented to "Alcoholics Anonymous
> World Services Inc."
>
> ----
> This letter is to address SECOND HAND ALCOHOLISM and the denial of
> Alcoholics Anonymous in addressing this and other issues which
> continue to deny alcoholics the truth about his most deadly substance,
> and which causes many alcoholics to never achieve sobriety, often
> resulting in their death.
>
> Any person who has ever consumed alcohol in any abusive form
> whatsoever, IS an alcoholic. Alcohol is the most evil substance on
> earth, and will likely be the ruin of civilization as we know it.
If the BAC produces less than .001% this PI can be offset by 6 hail
MAry's or a rigorous session with your sponsor. (fist fucking for
jesus) He can cosign that you are in good standing and therefore not
drunk.
If not then you have to go take that long humiliating walk up to the
podium and pick up a desire chip. Then you will have to shake all
those arrogant sobs hands.
CharlieM1958
> The following document has been presented to "Alcoholics Anonymous
> World Services Inc."
<HUGE snip>
Somebody has *way* too much time on their hands.
JoeRaisin
And a fairly decent imagination.
darren
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> The following document has been presented to "Alcoholics Anonymous
> World Services Inc."
> Alcohol is the most evil substance on
> earth, and will likely be the ruin of civilization as we know it.
>
I disagree. Alcohol is not evil. It is a coulourless liquid that has many
useful application including cleaning of wounds.
Alcohol doesn't make us addicts; human nature does.
> The unfortunate aspect is that alcohol is present in many beverages
> sold on the sheves of stores all around the world. It's not just
> those products labelled as an "alcoholic beverage". Any liquid,
> whether it be soda, bottled water, juices, coffee and other beverages,
> can contain trace, or greater amounts of alcohol. Alcoholics MUST
> abstain from 100% of ALL alcohol, ALL of the time. This alone brings
> up the question why coffee is regularly served at AA meetings. This
> practice MUST be stopped immediately.
>
Are you suggesting that coffee has alcohol in it?
> Any member of AA, IS an alcoholic,
No. Some just have drink problems.
>and will ALWAYS be an alcoholic.
> There is no turning back, and alcoholics NEVER recover from this most
> devastating disease.
Although I agree with you that there is no recovery, I would not refer to
alcoholism as a disease. An insanity? Possibly. A genetic disorder? very
likely. A disease? No.
>
>There is no way to escape alcoholism other than
> death.
Yes there is. Simply don't pick up. Easier said than done but even for the
hardened alcoholic it is possible.
>Anyone working the twelve steps, MUST avoid ANY and ALL
> alcohol, and avoid it 100%.
Impossible.
>Any substance consumed by an alcoholic
> should be tested and certified alcohol free. Even the most minimal
> fractional percentage of one percent of alcohol can be devastating to
> a person who suffers the disease of alcoholism, and will cause them to
> suffer a relapse, which may kill them.
Nonsense.
>
> Alcoholics MUST avoid all commercial consumer beverages, no matter how
> "safe" they may seem. Besides avoiding all consumer liquids, a member
> of AA must NEVER enter any drinking establishment or even a home where
> alcohol is being served or consumed. Not only are these extremely
> dangerous slippery places, but persons who are drinking alcohol are
> exhaling alcohol vapors when they breathe, and alcohols do vaporize
> directly from the bottles and glasses where they exist. Because
> persons inside of any enclosed structure are breathing this same air,
> these alcohol vapors WILL be ingested into the lungs of EVERYONE
> inside the walls of the structure. This is known as SECOND HAND
> ALCOHOL.
Interesting hypothesis. I look forward to seeing you background research.
>
> It's most unfortunate that AA has never addressed these issues and
> continues to be in denial over these matters. The persons responsible
> for operations of Alcoholics Anonymous are not addressing these issues
> and need to get up to date with current scientific data about alcohol
> sources, alcoholism and alcohol abuse. If these persons actually
> followed the words of their higher power (God), they would know that
> they are not doing their part to educate alcoholics and the public in
> general about second hand alcohol, as well as the known scientific
> facts about the sources of alcohol. The time has come for AA to
> modernize and get out of denial.
>
> The real truth of the matter, THERE IS NO SAFE BEVERAGE. No canned or
> bottled beverages sold in stores, are safe for alcoholics, NOTHING.
> Alcoholics should only drink water from a source which has been
> thoroughy tested, and which is re-inspected on a weekly basis.
> Alcoholics should never enter any structure where alcohol is served or
> stored. Alcoholics should never be anywhere within 1000 meters of any
> location where alcohol is consumed or used in any manner, at any time.
> A member of AA should always stay in a safe and supervised location at
> all times, and must not enter public buildings or attend any public
> events where alcohol might be used. Any alcoholic who enters ANY
> public building, should always be under the strict supervision of a
> licensed medical doctor, or law enforcement agent, at all times, and
> the air quality should be carefully monitored.
>
> Alcoholism is a serious disease, which ruins the lives of many people
> around the world every year, and is the cause of many deaths each and
> every day. It is our belief that alcohol in any form should be
> entirely banned and outlawed. However, it is known that lobbiests in
> favor of the huge alcohol industry refuse to accept the fact that
> alcohol is a killer, while the alcohol industry continues to rape and
> pillage the public in the name of large profits and corruption, while
> they murder millions of persons each year. Until this death industry
> is destroyed, AA must address ALL issues associated with alcoholism
> and protect those whose lives have been permanently destroyed as a
> result of the consumption of this poison.
>
> Anonymous author from CASHA
>
> Citizens Against Second Hand Alcohol (CASHA)
>
> A non-profit organization dedicated to a total ban on alcohol
>
>
> Be sure to visit: http://www.come-over.to/FAS/bigalcohol.htm
I think the author of this article is seriously deluded. Anyone who follows
his/her guidelines would live like a hermit and never eat or drink anything.
This article seems to lack background research and the author behaves
irresponsibly by posting it.