Veterans Day
mike
group who have served their nation by putting their life on the line as
members of the armed forces. Thank you for the sacrifices you and your
families put forth in order to protect and defend the values of your
country.
(David P.)
It would be more equitable having each individual fight
the flu on his own, rather than waste resources having
armies fight each other over resources. By stopping
the suppression of influenza, /everyone/ could be on
the front lines, instead of just a few good men.
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JimB
Thank you Vets! Your efforts continue to make America great.
JImB
Tommy
news:6dac8e2a-a23d-46e9...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 11, 9:18 am, "mike" <into.action.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Vets! Your efforts continue to make America great.
JImB
I didn't know our vets were to be so thanked Jim.
Next time I happen to need one I'll be sure to pass on your good
wishes.
I was always telling my kids that thats what a couple of years of
college will do for you. Imagine that ehh, our college students make
America great
Cheers
Tommy
JimB
You already got some when you needed them. You'll get more when and if
you need....
Veterans helped make colleges available for our students, BTW.
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JimB
The Ubuntu Counter Project - User# 28648
TheGoz
Well, don't forget that in Canada and the UK it's called
Remembrance Day... Both observed that same day... Today...
JimB
Hiccum Blurpaedius
Eat shit and die capitalist tax sucking maggots
Bring the war home
EXterminate god god dammit
CW
Okay, but then why didn't it work like this in the past, prior to flu
vaccinations? It should have been a much happier time, years ago, when
Mr. Flu was allowed to do his thing. Right? Instead we got both
disease AND bloodshed. Or is this your Utopian ideal? Once upon a time
there will be no such thing as war, and no fighting over resources
because influenza will do a much better job of population control?
Everyone will be content to just sit there and take their lumps, and
when it's over, share the proceeds equitably amongst those who remain.
No one will ever want any more than what they have....
(David P.)
> (David P.) wrote:
> > "mike" <into.action.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I would like to extend my heartfelt gratitude to all those in this
> >> group who have served their nation by putting their life on the line as
> >> members of the armed forces. Thank you for the sacrifices you and your
> >> families put forth in order to protect and defend the values of your
> >> country.
>
> > It would be more equitable having each individual fight
> > the flu on his own, rather than waste resources having
> > armies fight each other over resources. By stopping
> > the suppression of influenza, /everyone/ could be on
> > the front lines, instead of just a few good men.
> > .
>
> Okay, but then why didn't it work like this in the past, prior to flu
> vaccinations? It should have been a much happier time, years ago,
> when Mr. Flu was allowed to do his thing. Right? Instead we got
> both disease AND bloodshed.
The Green Revolution, nuclear weapons, television, the Internet
and other modern conveniences make no difference?
Tommy
> Tommy wrote:
>> "JimB" <jimbu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6dac8e2a-a23d-46e9...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 11, 9:18 am, "mike" <into.action.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you Vets! Your efforts continue to make America great.
>>
>> JImB
>>
>> I didn't know our vets were to be so thanked Jim.
>>
>> Next time I happen to need one I'll be sure to pass on your good
>> wishes.
>>
>> I was always telling my kids that thats what a couple of years of
>> college will do for you. Imagine that ehh, our college students
>> make America great
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tommy
>>
>
> You already got some when you needed them. You'll get more when and
> if you need....
Colleges ??
Or fuck me, theyre going to invade England ??
> Veterans helped make colleges available for our students, BTW.
What ?? you mean they built colleges,,,
Or they stopped foreigners taking up places ???
Confused in Dublin
Tex
<tommyle...@geeupmail.ie> wrote:
>Confused in Dublin
That's a good place to be if you're confused.
Tommy
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:52:43 -0000, "Tommy"
>
>>Confused in Dublin
>
> That's a good place to be if you're confused.
Anyplace is a good place when confusion strikes
Tex
No! Try waking up in the drunk tank while confused... it ain't a nice
place...hell it ain't a nice place when you're not confused....Now I'm
confused and I'm not even in Dublin!
JimB
Hell. You're not confused. You are just performing your standard, stir
the pot, Veterans, Memorial, and Independence Day, feck patriotism
routine ;-)
Tex
wrote:
>
>Hell. You're not confused. You are just performing your standard, stir
>the pot, Veterans, Memorial, and Independence Day, feck patriotism
>routine ;-)
A moment of clarity is once again shined onto the page so all can
see...though I doubt many will.
You nailed it Jim!
JimB
If you post "it", he will come! :-)
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> >"Tex" <twizz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...
> >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:52:43 -0000, "Tommy"
> >> <> wrote:
>
> >>>Confused in Dublin
>
> >> That's a good place to be if you're confused.
>
> >Anyplace is a good place when confusion strikes
>
> No! Try waking up in the drunk tank while confused... it ain't a nice
> place...hell it ain't a nice place when you're not confused....Now I'm
> confused and I'm not even in Dublin!
Zoned and alarmed in a free country being bound and tortured.
Exterminte god god dammit
Tommy
> Tommy wrote:
>> What ?? you mean they built colleges,,,
>> Or they stopped foreigners taking up places ???
>>
>> Confused in Dublin
>>
>
> Hell. You're not confused. You are just performing your standard,
> stir the pot, Veterans, Memorial, and Independence Day, feck
> patriotism routine ;-)
Jesus I can't help it if you keep playing. Oh wait, you're not.
But !!! by answering me you are.
Aw you don't realise I'm not American, is that it?
Oh wait, you must know by now I'm not.
SO are you playing, or are you not ??
Now why am I confused ehhh?
Cheers
Tommy
JimB
Stressful week? ;-)
(David P.)
> > the flu on his own, rather than waste resources having
> > armies fight each other over resources. By stopping
> > the suppression of influenza, /everyone/ could be on
> > the front lines, instead of just a few good men.
>
> Mr. Flu was allowed to do his thing. Right? Instead we got both
> disease AND bloodshed.
The Golden Rule is the path to peace. As long as nations
are selfish/self-centered/special-interest-ites, we won't
have peace.
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Sharx35
"(David P.)" <imb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:6eb9bc83-0e5e-46e7...@l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
It's been THAT way since the dawn of recorded history. It is NOT going to
change, regardless of millions of NAIVE, ignorant LIEbrawls wailing and
knashing their teeth!
Hiccum Blurpaedius
Exterminate the Red Crucifix
CW
But you implied earlier that if we just put an end to flu vaccines we
won't need any more wars (it's still up top there if you want to reread
it). To which I responded (somewhat sarcastically): "Or is this your
Utopian ideal? [...] Everyone will be content to just sit there and
take their lumps [...] No one will EVER want any more than what they
have...."
So what, now you're changing your mind and coming over to my way of
thinking?
Tex
>So what, now you're changing your mind and coming over to my way of
>thinking?
He just wants to live the good life and figures if he kills off a
bunch of people there will be more goodies for him. He covers it up by
saying it's all for future generations.... just like people are
ranting about this and that all to protect the newcomer in aa.
(David P.)
> (David P.) wrote:
> > CW <dysastr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> (David P.) wrote:
> >>> It would be more equitable having each individual fight
> >>> the flu on his own, rather than waste resources having
> >>> armies fight each other over resources. By stopping
> >>> the suppression of influenza, /everyone/ could be on
> >>> the front lines, instead of just a few good men.
> >> vaccinations? It should've been a much happier time, when
> >> Mr. Flu was allowed to do his thing. Right? Instead we got
> >> both disease AND bloodshed.
>
> > The Golden Rule is the path to peace. As long as nations
> > are selfish/self-centered/special-interest-ites, we won't
> > have peace.
>
> need any more wars. To which I responded: "Or is this your
> Utopian ideal? [...] Everyone will be content to just sit there and
> have...." So what, now you're changing your mind & coming over
> to my way of thinking?
The Green Revolution, nuclear weapons, television, the Internet
and other modern conveniences make no difference? Do you
expect to have a World War III, just like I & II but with updated
weaponry?
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CW
Not sure what you're asking, David. Or what this has to do with what
we're talking about. Do these things make any difference to your claim
that by allowing influenza equal access to everyone, you'll put and end
to want and need? And to war itself?? I don't know, that's your
position, not mine.
> Do you
> expect to have a World War III, just like I & II but with updated
> weaponry?
> .
>
Not necessarily....
What I do expect though is that there will ALWAYS be wars. And I expect
that they'll always be started, either by people arrogant to the point
that they'll justify taking by force more than they need OR by people
made desperate by need, enough so that they'll take by force that which
they do not already possess...
Tex
Are you saying if we just give the desperate what they need and the
arrogant more than they need there will be no more wars? If so let's
give the desperate a flu shot and the arrogant two flu shots.
F.H.
> (David P.) wrote:
>> Do you
>> expect to have a World War III, just like I & II but with updated
>> weaponry?
>> .
>>
>
> Not necessarily....
>
> What I do expect though is that there will ALWAYS be wars. And I expect
> that they'll always be started, either by people arrogant to the point
> that they'll justify taking by force more than they need OR by people
> made desperate by need, enough so that they'll take by force that which
> they do not already possess...
The days of the "desperate by need" having war options are pretty much
over. Power consolidates moment by moment. Remember what Bush wanted
early on? Smaller tactical "Nucular" weapons. Don't take a rocket
scientist to guess what the global chess players want with something
like that.
(David P.)
Did the authorities, way back when, say that the Golden Rule
is the path to peace, and that's why we need to allow influenza
to run its course, to control population pressures?
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Tex
They sure did. But nobody listened.
(David P.)
The world population wasn't 6.8 billion in 1945.
It was only 2 billion.
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Tex
I thought you meant way back when ... not yesterday.
CW
So what you're saying is that ALL that's needed to bring about peace is
for those in power to EXPLAIN why it's in our own best interests to
wager our own best interests and then for us to accept our fate?
Why stop at influenza? Why not put an end to all medicines?
CW
Nope, it'll never work. The desperate ones, once they get all they need
then become arrogant and greedy. And the arrogant greedy ones? Well,
they're NEVER satisfied with what they have....
Tex
Well then let's print up loads of Page 449 and drop them across the
world! Give Goz a little work.
Tex
>Why stop at influenza? Why not put an end to all medicines?
Now we're talkin' ....
(David P.)
> for those in power to EXPLAIN why it's in our own best interests to
> wager our own best interests and then for us to accept our fate?
The first step is to understand /why/ we need to control
population. The second step is to /do/ it.
> Why stop at influenza?
You have to start /somewhere/! It might be enough,
or it might /not/ be enough. Only one way to find out...
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(David P.)
http://www.un.org/ga/63/generaldebate/pga63_opening.shtml
President of the 63rd Session of the General Assembly
23 September 2008
Miguel D’Escoto Brockmaa (Nicaragua), acknowledging the
large scale and interrelated crises facing the world today,
called for Member States to seize the opportunity to work
together collectively and cooperatively -- not by making
speeches and statements of good intentions, but through
concrete action based on the “golden rule” that guided
humankind’s behaviour. The United Nations’ illustrious
history clearly reflected its many laudable actions.
However, the fulfillment of its primary purpose --
eliminating war, achieving disarmament and ensuring
international security –- had clearly failed. The pressing
& man-made problems of climate change, efforts to privatize
water, the build-up of arms, terrorism, human trafficking,
the situation of Palestine, humanitarian aid, gender
inequality, children in especially difficult circumstances
such as armed conflict, as well as the fact that half the
world are living in hunger and poverty, could be directly
linked to the lack of democracy in the United Nations.
Noting that decisions with the most serious consequences
did not go through the General Assembly, & that the wishes
and resolutions of 95 per cent of the Organization's Members
were viewed as “recommendations”, he expressed his belief
that unless this changed, significant progress towards the
targets established in the Millennium Declaration would be
impeded. Indeed, if Member States did not choose a path of
solidarity with one another, the very existence of the human
race would continue to be jeopardized. “Either we love one
another or we all perish; either we treat each other as
brothers and sisters or we witness the beginning of the end
of our human species.”
He reminded the Assembly delegations that the peoples of the
entire world turned to the Member States and the gathering of
Heads of State and Government to be assured of a universal
commitment to defend the United Nations, to uphold the
principle of the sovereign equality of all Member States,
and for all Members to meet their Charter obligations so that
the continued & successful efforts towards a world-wide peace
be ensured and protected. Recalling that 2009 was the Int'l
Year of Reconciliation, he urged Member States to determine
to stop the arrogant attacks on one another and to adopt a
mindset of reconciliation, collaboration and courageous
forgiveness to those who had caused pain and suffering.
“Forgiveness is never a sign of weakness,” he said, emphasizing
that achieving broader levels of unity and solidarity would
guarantee the possibility of a different and more prosperous
world.
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http://www.un.org/cyberschoolbus/untour/subnor.htm
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm
Shared belief in the "Golden Rule" (Ethics of Reciprocity)
"Every religion emphasizes human improvement, love, respect
for others, sharing other people's suffering. On these lines
every religion had more or less the same viewpoint and the
same goal." --The Dalai Lama
Religious groups differ greatly in their concepts of deity,
other beliefs & practices. Non-theistic ethical & philosophic
systems, like Humanism and Ethical Culture, also exhibit a
wide range of beliefs. But there is near unanimity of opinion
among almost all religions, ethical systems and philosophies
that each person should treat others in a decent manner.
Almost all of these groups have passages in their holy texts,
or writings of their leaders, which promote this Ethic of
Reciprocity. The most commonly known version in North America
is the Golden Rule of Christianity. It is often expressed as
"Do onto others as you would wish them do onto you."
[...]
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CW
Are you sure you haven't missed a step or two? Like getting the near 7
billion inhabitants of earth to all agree to the deal? Or did you think
that understanding the /necessity/ was the same thing as agreeing to
your step two?
Unless, of course, you were planning on forcing this thing to happen.
In which case, why not simply have a war?
>
>> Why stop at influenza?
>
> You have to start /somewhere/! It might be enough,
> or it might /not/ be enough. Only one way to find out...
> .
>
OK, I'm in! Now... only 6,797,999,998 or so more to go!!
(David P.)
> > population. The second step is to /do/ it.
>
> Are you sure you haven't missed a step or two? Like getting
> the near 7 billion inhabitants of earth to all agree to the deal?
That's what understanding /why/ means!
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CW
And so, then David and I can count on you for your support? Good!
OK, well that makes you, me, and David. And Goz on printing. I think
we're gonna need a few more people. And a buttload of coffee. We'll
probably have to work late tonight and maybe even tomorrow, so don't
make any plans. Damn, I'm feeling really good about this. I think we
might be able to pull it off.
Do you want to wait until everyone's here before we order pizza?
(David P.)
> Tex wrote:
People understood why we had to fight the Axis Powers
in WWII, didn't they? Did the support develop at the
grass roots? Was it unanimous?
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Sharx35
Unfortunately no. There were MILLIONS of idiot LIEbrawls/isolationists who
wanted to allow
Europe to deal with the Nazis. FDR had to do what was necessary to overcome
the resistance of these idiots. Thanks to the procrastination caused by
LIEbrawl idiots, Europe was ALMOST overrun by the Nazis.
> .
> .
> --
(David P.)
> > in WWII, didn't they? Did the support develop at the
> > grass roots? Was it unanimous?
>
> wanted to allow Europe to deal with the Nazis.
When was the last time anything was unanimous?
The election of George Washington as POTUS?
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CW
Oh fer christ's sake, David! What the hell you want from me? I already
said I'm with you on this. Now scoot. Go win some of those other
people over....
(David P.)
> (David P.) wrote:
> > CW <dysastr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Tex wrote:
> >>> CW <dysastr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> Why stop at influenza? Why not put an end to all medicines?
> >>> Now we're talkin' ....
> >> And so, then David and I can count on you for your support? Good!
>
> >> OK, well that makes you, me, and David. And Goz on printing. I think
> >> we're gonna need a few more people. And a buttload of coffee. We'll
> >> probably have to work late tonight and maybe even tomorrow, so don't
> >> make any plans. Damn, I'm feeling really good about this. I think we
> >> might be able to pull it off.
>
> >> Do you want to wait until everyone's here before we order pizza?
>
> > People understood why we had to fight the Axis Powers
> > in WWII, didn't they? Did the support develop at the
> > grass roots? Was it unanimous?
>
> said I'm with you on this. Now scoot. Go win some of those other
> people over....
The /leaders/ are the ones who have to be won over.
All the others are just followers. Ain't that right?
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CW
How the hell should I know, I'm following YOU!! If you can't find your
way out of this mess then how am I supposed to?
Tex
>How the hell should I know, I'm following YOU!! If you can't find your
>way out of this mess then how am I supposed to?
Well you could give *your sponsor* a call ...sure he would send the
plane!
CW
What makes you think *his* sense of direction is any better?
(David P.)
> (David P.) wrote:
> > CW <dysastr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> (David P.) wrote:
> >>> CW <dysastr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> Tex wrote:
> >>>>> CW <dysastr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Why stop at influenza? Why not put an end to all medicines?
> >>>>> Now we're talkin' ....
> >>>> And so, then David and I can count on you for your support? Good!
> >>>> OK, well that makes you, me, and David. And Goz on printing. I think
> >>>> we're gonna need a few more people. And a buttload of coffee. We'll
> >>>> probably have to work late tonight and maybe even tomorrow, so don't
> >>>> make any plans. Damn, I'm feeling really good about this. I think we
> >>>> might be able to pull it off.
> >>>> Do you want to wait until everyone's here before we order pizza?
> >>> People understood why we had to fight the Axis Powers
> >>> in WWII, didn't they? Did the support develop at the
> >>> grass roots? Was it unanimous?
> >> Oh fer christ's sake, David! What the hell you want from me? I already
> >> said I'm with you on this. Now scoot. Go win some of those other
> >> people over....
>
> > The /leaders/ are the ones who have to be won over.
> > All the others are just followers. Ain't that right?
>
> way out of this mess then how am I supposed to?
Jerry Garcia solo - Friend Of The Devil 5-5-82
Tex
I have given up thinkin' .... I'm a man of action now! Action is the
magic word! It's in the book! In the 1st 164 to boot too.
(David P.)
>
> >>> How the hell should I know, I'm following YOU!! If you can't find your
> >>> way out of this mess then how am I supposed to?
>
> >> Well you could give *your sponsor* a call ...sure he would send the
> >> plane!
>
> >What makes you think *his* sense of direction is any better?
>
> I have given up thinkin' .... I'm a man of action now! Action is the
> magic word! It's in the book! In the 1st 164 to boot too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350283200813
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Tex
This is the 3rd link reply you've made ... they either don't make
sense or they are going over my head....sorry.