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Ex-AA_Forev...@myplace.com
May 15, 2012, 8:16:20 AM5/15/12
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Do you dress up for AA meetings?
(or did you, if you no longer go to AA)?
Just curious....
I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such as blue
jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed up!
Of course he was the *king* so he had to dress for suck-cess!
(or did you, if you no longer go to AA)?
Just curious....
I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such as blue
jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed up!
Of course he was the *king* so he had to dress for suck-cess!
mike
May 15, 2012, 9:31:16 AM5/15/12
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Ex-AA_Forever#7428...@myplace.com wrote:
>Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>(or did you, if you no longer go to AA)?
>
>Just curious....
>
>I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such as
>blue jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
>
>From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed up!
>Of course he was the king so he had to dress for suck-cess!
>Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>(or did you, if you no longer go to AA)?
>
>Just curious....
>
>I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such as
>blue jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
>
>From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed up!
No, I don't dress up for AA meetings generally, but I do dress up when
I am the speaker. Slacks, button shirt and tie during summer. When
it's cooler I'll put on a sport coat too.
I was taught that it is an honor being asked to speak so I should honor
the group by appearing presentable.
If I am offering out chips/medallions at a meeting I will stand when
doing so.
Tex
May 15, 2012, 9:48:17 AM5/15/12
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exercised mine thru out the years.
mike
May 15, 2012, 10:39:06 AM5/15/12
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Tex wrote:
>>I was taught that it is an honor being asked to speak so I should
>>honor the group by appearing presentable.
>
>>I was taught that it is an honor being asked to speak so I should
>>honor the group by appearing presentable.
>
>Personally I see it all as a matter of individual choice .... and have
>exercised mine thru out the years.
It's those "should" or "ought" words that you can't stand, right?
>exercised mine thru out the years.
Ex-AA_Forev...@myplace.com
May 15, 2012, 11:25:41 AM5/15/12
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When I started AA I lived in the city. I saw a lot more dressed up
people. Out here in the rural, there are few dressed up. Several
farmers come in their bib overalls. Most just come in jeans and a
t-shirt in summer and sweat shirts or flannels in winter. One guy who
works with cattle often smelled like cattle, but around here that's a
normal smell. I probably smelled like horses a few times too, but I'm
used to it, so I dont notice it. Cattle smell is stronger, that I
notice.
On the other hand, the Al-Anon women most were dressed up, but that's
just a woman thing in general. There were only 2 women that ever came
to AA around here. The rest did Al-Anon. I never understood that.
There are more drunk women in the bars than men.
drink and take drugs
May 15, 2012, 12:25:36 PM5/15/12
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polyester suits at Salvation army for a few bucks.
Tex
May 15, 2012, 12:39:18 PM5/15/12
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knock you for doing it the way you do it.
Some people need to and benefit from running with the herd ... I'm ok
with that.
Again 'focus' ... as I see it should (see I can use it) be on getting
and staying alcohol free ... Then it ought to be as your pal Mark
pointed out ... then ... getting your shit together.
For those with a god bent ... it's developing a relationship with god
so as to have a better relationship with their fellow man.
Those going the personality change route ... it's developing a
personality where they can have a better relationship with their
fellow man.
Getting one's shit together might take on many meanings and mean
different things to different people. Just as your presentable may.
One need not worry about eye sight or eye sores if one has ears tuned
to the spiritual wave length as they will hear the language of the
heart ... of course the deaf most likely will read or feel the
language of the heart ... but here it seems we are talking the look
good.
A tie or sports coat nor a t-shirt & jeans makes one more or less
spiritual ... might fit more some ritual / custom ... again I stand by
it being an individual deal ... when those in need and hungry come for
nourishment of a spiritual feed it's not the platter the mesage is
served from rather the message itself which is of importance.
Jimbo
May 15, 2012, 1:35:58 PM5/15/12
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<Ex-AA_Forever wrote in message
> Do you dress up for AA meetings?
When I started in AA most men wore suits or sports jackets to meetings.
Today, half the people look like they've been dragged thru a hedge.
It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you look like a bum.
I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look sober.
Tex
May 15, 2012, 2:53:26 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:35:58 -0400, "Jimbo" <jbl...@videotron.ca>
wrote:
Personally I find it more important to be mentally ok than it is to
convince anyone else. What is more convincing to even an
non-alcoholic, especially if they have experience with you in your
cups, is your actions and speaking sincerely the language of the
heart. While the non-alcoholic might call it by another name ... they
definitely understand it.
Putting undue emphasis on looks is more an extension of being the
actor which sadly to say was something ... at least in the end ... we
didn't pull off very well. Which is probably why we shed that role
and took on the one of Director.
Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
more or less sober.
wrote:
convince anyone else. What is more convincing to even an
non-alcoholic, especially if they have experience with you in your
cups, is your actions and speaking sincerely the language of the
heart. While the non-alcoholic might call it by another name ... they
definitely understand it.
Putting undue emphasis on looks is more an extension of being the
actor which sadly to say was something ... at least in the end ... we
didn't pull off very well. Which is probably why we shed that role
and took on the one of Director.
Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
more or less sober.
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Stuart
May 15, 2012, 3:23:07 PM5/15/12
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Fred Exley
May 15, 2012, 3:42:13 PM5/15/12
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On 5/15/12 3:19 PM, Gary wrote:
> It's not the 'external' that matters……..make sense?
No. Dress for success. It provides a psychological boost to the
individual if they feel like they are looking their best. And how
others perceive you makes a difference. Dress like a bum, you will
attract bums.
Or do you feel recovery should be made more difficult?
No. Dress for success. It provides a psychological boost to the
individual if they feel like they are looking their best. And how
others perceive you makes a difference. Dress like a bum, you will
attract bums.
Or do you feel recovery should be made more difficult?
Tim and Lisa
May 15, 2012, 4:17:13 PM5/15/12
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"Fred Exley" wrote in message news:joubil$od7$1...@dont-email.me...
people, and I had no nice clothes, but someone turned me on to working
wardrobes who hooked me up whiff a suit and let me tell I never seen myself
in a suit except fur my birthday suit but that’s different ya know!!! ;o)
anyways looking great (tangible) can make yew feel great (intangible). .
.;o)
Idiot #1
Tim and Lisa
May 15, 2012, 4:18:32 PM5/15/12
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Jimbo
May 15, 2012, 4:30:19 PM5/15/12
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"Tex" wrote
> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
> more or less sober.
Go show up for a job interview looking like an AA bum.
> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
> more or less sober.
Jimbo
May 15, 2012, 4:32:07 PM5/15/12
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"Fred Exley" wrote
No. Dress for success. It provides a psychological boost to the
> individual if they feel like they are looking their best. And how others
> perceive you makes a difference. Dress like a bum, you will attract bums.
Well stated! I always felt better when I got home from work and showered and
> individual if they feel like they are looking their best. And how others
> perceive you makes a difference. Dress like a bum, you will attract bums.
put on clean clothes to go to a meeting.
Tex
May 15, 2012, 4:36:09 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 15:42:13 -0400, Fred Exley
What was funny when I 1st hit AA was the Professional people ...
doc's, lawyers, etc. where dressing down and the bums were dressing up
.. it really was a crack up even at the time. Funny to see Doc Nick
show up in some cut off jeans and a t-shirt and Wino Jim in his K-Mart
leisure suit.
Little old ladies saying fuck and the biker dudes saying gosh darn ...
I won't for a minute deny one's dress can affect who one attracts ...
but the dress doesn't have much to do with sobriety. I'd much rather
attract a bunch of sober bums then a bunch of hip slick cool
muthafuckers who can't or won't get sober ... let alone maintain it.
But I'd vote for the internal mattering heads and shoulders above the
external ... after all I do believe it's an inside job ... so to
speak. Of course I never wanted to run with the herd ... I just didn't
want to get trampled by the cocksuckers anymore.
Besides I don't think there is a suit made I could wear that would
fool too many people who I am and those who would judge my worth based
on how I look ... well fuck'em ... I never wanted to break bread with
them anyway.
Three things I need not worry about anymore ... being the director ...
being an actor ... or being a doormat.
So again I say let the individual decide for themselves ...
doc's, lawyers, etc. where dressing down and the bums were dressing up
.. it really was a crack up even at the time. Funny to see Doc Nick
show up in some cut off jeans and a t-shirt and Wino Jim in his K-Mart
leisure suit.
Little old ladies saying fuck and the biker dudes saying gosh darn ...
I won't for a minute deny one's dress can affect who one attracts ...
but the dress doesn't have much to do with sobriety. I'd much rather
attract a bunch of sober bums then a bunch of hip slick cool
muthafuckers who can't or won't get sober ... let alone maintain it.
But I'd vote for the internal mattering heads and shoulders above the
external ... after all I do believe it's an inside job ... so to
speak. Of course I never wanted to run with the herd ... I just didn't
want to get trampled by the cocksuckers anymore.
Besides I don't think there is a suit made I could wear that would
fool too many people who I am and those who would judge my worth based
on how I look ... well fuck'em ... I never wanted to break bread with
them anyway.
Three things I need not worry about anymore ... being the director ...
being an actor ... or being a doormat.
So again I say let the individual decide for themselves ...
Fred Exley
May 15, 2012, 4:51:01 PM5/15/12
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Tommy
May 15, 2012, 4:56:42 PM5/15/12
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"Jimbo" <jbl...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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Everyones own ideas :-)
However, I dealt with coal face sobriety - many were chasing their first
week, some a day, or days sober.
Some were living in hostels, half way houses - could scarcely afford to put
something in the basket.
2 chains of thought there - dress well and 'show' them what sobriety could
do for one.
Or - whos going to listen to some guy dressed to the nines speaking 'in
tongues'
Howsomever though and fwiw, it doesn't cost much to be clean shaved (if
you're not bearded), hair combed (if you have any), trousers creased (if not
wearing shorts), and shoes shined (if not wearing sneakers/sandals
Seee --------^ theres a place for everyone and everyone has a place -
Cheers
Tommy
news:jouefp$u8o$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
However, I dealt with coal face sobriety - many were chasing their first
week, some a day, or days sober.
Some were living in hostels, half way houses - could scarcely afford to put
something in the basket.
2 chains of thought there - dress well and 'show' them what sobriety could
do for one.
Or - whos going to listen to some guy dressed to the nines speaking 'in
tongues'
Howsomever though and fwiw, it doesn't cost much to be clean shaved (if
you're not bearded), hair combed (if you have any), trousers creased (if not
wearing shorts), and shoes shined (if not wearing sneakers/sandals
Seee --------^ theres a place for everyone and everyone has a place -
Cheers
Tommy
Fred Exley
May 15, 2012, 4:59:14 PM5/15/12
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On 5/15/12 4:53 PM, Gary wrote:
> On 2012-05-15 19:42:13 +0000, Fred Exley
> I see the slogan people got to you before I did…..How does a bum dress?
>
Did you attend post-graduate courses in how to come off looking stupid?
> On 2012-05-15 19:42:13 +0000, Fred Exley
>
Did you attend post-graduate courses in how to come off looking stupid?
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Fred Exley
May 15, 2012, 5:01:12 PM5/15/12
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internal. It's all in the mind you know...
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Skeezix LaRocca
May 15, 2012, 5:57:34 PM5/15/12
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On 05/15/2012 09:31 AM, mike wrote:
>
> If I am offering out chips/medallions at a meeting I will stand when
> doing so.
I hand out coins/chips to friends often, just because I attend a meeting
>
> If I am offering out chips/medallions at a meeting I will stand when
> doing so.
near a Central AA office where they have all the coins...I usually ask
them if they want it on the sly, or to be presented at the meeting...A
lot of folks opt for the on the sly method...Hey, it's their coin.
I started drilling a hole through my coins & so did a sponsee of mine,
just because we both were always losing them...Now, we put them on our
key chains..You'd be surprised the guys that say..."Hey, how come you
didn't drill a hole in mine.
Monkey see...Monkey do, or so it seems.
--
SHEMP HOWARD: so underrated, so misunderstood
Ex-AA_Forev...@myplace.com
May 15, 2012, 6:01:20 PM5/15/12
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I've seen people dressed in filthy clothing who were drunk
I've seen guys dressed in casual clothing who were drunk
I've seen guys at wedding receptions dressed in a tuxedo who were drunk
I've even seen naked people who were drunk
On the other hand, I've seen all of the above sober too.
Yea, there's a limit to coming to meetings (or anywhere in public),
looking like a slob. In fact awhile back I saw a guy get kicked out of
a bar because the guy was so filthy and smelled so bad that he was
driving away other customers. (I was told the guy works for the
sanitation dept. and never bathes).
Everything has it's limits. Personally I never went to AA in a suit and
tie. Then again, I'm not a suit and tie person. But when I went to
meetings (or go anywhere in public), I normally put on clean jeans and
t-shirt. Yet, being busy, there have been times that I've gone to a
meeting right from work, or I'd miss the meeting completely. Several
times I went to meetings with muddy boots, because I live on a farm and
when it's muddy, it's muddy from the moment I exit the house sidewalk to
go to the car. As I said in the past, this caused some hassles at
meetings. Yet, there is no alternative other than not going to meetings
during mud season. The guys who live in town where there are concrete
sidewalks and driveways dont understand this....
Tex
May 15, 2012, 6:02:42 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:01:12 -0400, Fred Exley
Then Mike attempted to read more into it and set me up with his
'should' / 'ought' game.
Then the ball start rolling futher down the runway.
Yes, I agree, the external can affect your internal ...but as the
heading states it's was a question concerning attending AA meetings...
Mike added the speaker portion.
Others have added getting a job or being a success etc. ... My focus
is/was on attending AA meetings ... with the emphasis on sobriety. I,
with my individual opinion is sobriety doesn't depend on 'look good'
... now if we want to discuss how it might affect who you have coffee
with after the meeting or who might be more willing to bed you or what
private events you might get asked to ... and too, the job stuff and
etc. then for sure it can come into play ... still even then it's, I
believe, an individual decision to be made by the individual.
Of course I'm a little weird people say because I put more emphasis on
the individual and what the individual need do or not do then say
getting into and being part of the herd. Doesn't make me better than
or less than imo ... just who I am.
<webm...@araa2008.gohsphere.com> wrote:
>Yes, internal trumps external ennyday. But external *can* affect your
>internal. It's all in the mind you know...
I do believe ... I merely stated it is really up to each individual.
>Yes, internal trumps external ennyday. But external *can* affect your
>internal. It's all in the mind you know...
Then Mike attempted to read more into it and set me up with his
'should' / 'ought' game.
Then the ball start rolling futher down the runway.
Yes, I agree, the external can affect your internal ...but as the
heading states it's was a question concerning attending AA meetings...
Mike added the speaker portion.
Others have added getting a job or being a success etc. ... My focus
is/was on attending AA meetings ... with the emphasis on sobriety. I,
with my individual opinion is sobriety doesn't depend on 'look good'
... now if we want to discuss how it might affect who you have coffee
with after the meeting or who might be more willing to bed you or what
private events you might get asked to ... and too, the job stuff and
etc. then for sure it can come into play ... still even then it's, I
believe, an individual decision to be made by the individual.
Of course I'm a little weird people say because I put more emphasis on
the individual and what the individual need do or not do then say
getting into and being part of the herd. Doesn't make me better than
or less than imo ... just who I am.
Tex
May 15, 2012, 6:09:53 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 16:02:59 -0500, Gary <yex...@sbell.net> wrote:
>On 2012-05-15 20:36:09 +0000, Tex <twiz...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>>
>>
>> Three things I need not worry about anymore ... being the director ...
>> being an actor ... or being a doormat.
>>
>> So again I say let the individual decide for themselves ...
>
>Freedom is very satisfying, isn't it? "I owe my soul to the company store….."
It's like a contradiction of sorts ... to me the whole program is
geared towards the individual yet once you become whatever it is you
as an individual is ... if it differ from the herd than you are
somehow expected to abandon the very thing you have gained ... maybe
that makes sense to others ... but it never has to me.
>On 2012-05-15 20:36:09 +0000, Tex <twiz...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>>
>>
>> Three things I need not worry about anymore ... being the director ...
>> being an actor ... or being a doormat.
>>
>> So again I say let the individual decide for themselves ...
>
It's like a contradiction of sorts ... to me the whole program is
geared towards the individual yet once you become whatever it is you
as an individual is ... if it differ from the herd than you are
somehow expected to abandon the very thing you have gained ... maybe
that makes sense to others ... but it never has to me.
Fred Exley
May 15, 2012, 7:26:47 PM5/15/12
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with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use.
-- Galileo
Skeezix LaRocca
May 15, 2012, 7:55:08 PM5/15/12
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On 05/15/2012 02:53 PM, Tex wrote:
>
> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
> more or less sober.
I went to a meeting one time clad in nothing but my 3 stooges boxers and
>
> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
> more or less sober.
cowboy boots...They told me to bag ass....Musta been Jimbo's home group.
Crosseyed And Painless - Big Bear Bad Ass
May 15, 2012, 8:05:47 PM5/15/12
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> Do you dress up for AA meetings?
> (or did you, if you no longer go to AA)?
>
> Just curious....
>
> I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such as blue
> jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
>
> From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed up!
> Of course he was the *king* so he had to dress for suck-cess!
>
Once you're in - urine.
>
> Just curious....
>
> I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such as blue
> jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
>
> From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed up!
> Of course he was the *king* so he had to dress for suck-cess!
>
~
mgh
all those jerkoffs in their fancy cars.
you can't believe your reviews.
Oh, no, you can't do that,
once you started wearin' those shoes
THE EAGLES
THOSE SHOES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ywfnnCBERY
Tell us what you're gonna do tonight, mama.
There must be someplace you can go
In the middle of the tall drinks and the drama,
there must be someone you know.
God knows, you're lookin' good enough,
but you're so smooth and the world's so rough.
You might have somethin' to loose.
Oh, no, pretty mama, what you gonna
do in those shoes?
Got those pretty little straps around your ankles
Got those shiny little chains around your heart.
You go to have your independence
but you don't know just where to start.
Desperation in the singles bars
an' all those jerkoffs in their fancy cars.
you can't believe your reviews.
Oh, no, you can't do that,
once you started wearin' those shoes
They're lookin' at you, leanin' on you
Tell you anything you want to hear
They give you tablets of love
They're waiting for you
got to score you
handy with a shovel and so sincere
Ooh, they got the kid glove
You just want someone to talk to
They just wanna get their hands on you
You get whatever you choose
Oh, no, you can't do that,
Once you started wearin' those shoes.
Tex
May 15, 2012, 8:17:23 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:26:47 -0400, Fred Exley
was bullshitting with Galileo over a cup of coffee and when he
inspired Bill to write the book mentioned it and Ole Bill stole the
idea.
I'm sure some people get to AA in such a shape they don't have much
left to work with >>> But at the same time I'm sure many get to AA and
aren't blubbering idiots as some my way or the highway thumps would
like to believe or go to great lengths to convince them they are.
So, as they might knead and roll them out in order to stamp them with
the official AA cookie cutter.
At the same time I'm seen a few who appear to be way way above normal
in the intellect department that almost rush to get under the cookie
cutter and get stamped out.
Just too many 3 legged birds to declare all birds have two legs!
<webm...@araa2008.gohsphere.com> wrote:
>
>I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us
>with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use.
>-- Galileo
Well it mentions in the BB god gave us bains ... to use. So maybe he
>
>I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us
>with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use.
>-- Galileo
was bullshitting with Galileo over a cup of coffee and when he
inspired Bill to write the book mentioned it and Ole Bill stole the
idea.
I'm sure some people get to AA in such a shape they don't have much
left to work with >>> But at the same time I'm sure many get to AA and
aren't blubbering idiots as some my way or the highway thumps would
like to believe or go to great lengths to convince them they are.
So, as they might knead and roll them out in order to stamp them with
the official AA cookie cutter.
At the same time I'm seen a few who appear to be way way above normal
in the intellect department that almost rush to get under the cookie
cutter and get stamped out.
Just too many 3 legged birds to declare all birds have two legs!
Tex
May 15, 2012, 8:21:16 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:55:08 -0400, Skeezix LaRocca
<fatl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 05/15/2012 02:53 PM, Tex wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
>> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
>> more or less sober.
>
>I went to a meeting one time clad in nothing but my 3 stooges boxers and
>cowboy boots...They told me to bag ass....Musta been Jimbo's home group.
Well hell I can understand dress codes at private meetings ... I just
<fatl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 05/15/2012 02:53 PM, Tex wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
>> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
>> more or less sober.
>
>I went to a meeting one time clad in nothing but my 3 stooges boxers and
>cowboy boots...They told me to bag ass....Musta been Jimbo's home group.
can't understand private meetings.
F.H.
May 15, 2012, 8:34:36 PM5/15/12
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On 5/15/2012 4:55 PM, Skeezix LaRocca wrote:
> On 05/15/2012 02:53 PM, Tex wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
>> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
>> more or less sober.
>
> I went to a meeting one time clad in nothing but my 3 stooges boxers and
> cowboy boots...They told me to bag ass....Musta been Jimbo's home group.
/There's/ my visual for the day. Thanks LaRocca.
> On 05/15/2012 02:53 PM, Tex wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
>> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
>> more or less sober.
>
> I went to a meeting one time clad in nothing but my 3 stooges boxers and
> cowboy boots...They told me to bag ass....Musta been Jimbo's home group.
Ex-AA_Forev...@myplace.com
May 15, 2012, 10:23:55 PM5/15/12
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>On 05/15/2012 02:53 PM, Tex wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
>> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
>> more or less sober.
>
>I went to a meeting one time clad in nothing but my 3 stooges boxers and
>cowboy boots...They told me to bag ass....Musta been Jimbo's home group.
You forgot to mention the black leather harness and chains!!!
>
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>> Of course if the individual chooses to wear a suit or sports coat ...
>> that is fine ... but whatever the individual wears won't make them
>> more or less sober.
>
>I went to a meeting one time clad in nothing but my 3 stooges boxers and
>cowboy boots...They told me to bag ass....Musta been Jimbo's home group.
Like these:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1145/1471625022_b9b9f2ea44.jpg
http://manginamonologues.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/harness-at-pride.jpg
Sharx3335
May 15, 2012, 11:41:54 PM5/15/12
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> <Ex-AA_Forever wrote in message
places have washrooms where one can at least wash hands and face
and comb hair.
I have no problem with babes coming wearing their tightest blue
jeans and a sweat shirt. It's want comes out of their mouths that
is most important to me, a listener.
>
> <Ex-AA_Forever wrote in message
> > Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>
>
> When I started in AA most men wore suits or sports jackets to
> meetings. Today, half the people look like they've been dragged
> thru a hedge.
>
> It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you look
> like a bum. I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look
> sober.
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>
There is little excuse, though, for not being clean as most meeting
> meetings. Today, half the people look like they've been dragged
> thru a hedge.
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> It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you look
> like a bum. I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look
> sober.
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places have washrooms where one can at least wash hands and face
and comb hair.
I have no problem with babes coming wearing their tightest blue
jeans and a sweat shirt. It's want comes out of their mouths that
is most important to me, a listener.
Ex-AA_Forev...@myplace.com
May 16, 2012, 2:26:27 AM5/16/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:41:54 -0600, "Sharx3335" <shar...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>> It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you look
>> like a bum. I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look
>> sober.
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>There is little excuse, though, for not being clean as most meeting
>places have washrooms where one can at least wash hands and face
>and comb hair.
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>I have no problem with babes coming wearing their tightest blue
>jeans and a sweat shirt. It's want comes out of their mouths that
>is most important to me, a listener.
>
What would you want to come out of her mouth?
http://www.onlypetites.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/nicole-unzipped-300.jpg
wrote:
>> It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you look
>> like a bum. I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look
>> sober.
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>There is little excuse, though, for not being clean as most meeting
>places have washrooms where one can at least wash hands and face
>and comb hair.
>
>I have no problem with babes coming wearing their tightest blue
>jeans and a sweat shirt. It's want comes out of their mouths that
>is most important to me, a listener.
>
http://www.onlypetites.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/nicole-unzipped-300.jpg
Sharx3335
May 16, 2012, 3:09:26 AM5/16/12
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"Fred Exley" <webm...@araa2008.gohsphere.com> wrote in message
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> On 5/15/12 3:19 PM, Gary wrote:
>> On 2012-05-15 17:35:58 +0000, "Jimbo" <jbl...@videotron.ca>
>> said:
>>
>>>
>> On 2012-05-15 17:35:58 +0000, "Jimbo" <jbl...@videotron.ca>
>> said:
>>
>>>
>>> <Ex-AA_Forever wrote in message
>>> > Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>>>
>>> When I started in AA most men wore suits or sports jackets to
>>> meetings.
>>> Today, half the people look like they've been dragged thru a
>>> hedge.
>>>
>>> > Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>>>
>>> When I started in AA most men wore suits or sports jackets to
>>> meetings.
>>> Today, half the people look like they've been dragged thru a
>>> hedge.
>>>
>>> It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you
>>> look like
>>> a bum.
>>> I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look sober.
>>
>>> look like
>>> a bum.
>>> I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look sober.
>>
>> It's not the 'external' that matters……..make sense?
>
> No. Dress for success. It provides a psychological boost to the
> individual if they feel like they are looking their best. And
> how others perceive you makes a difference. Dress like a bum,
> you will attract bums.
>
> Or do you feel recovery should be made more difficult?
>
I don't disagree with you, Fred. However, I've reached a point in
>
> No. Dress for success. It provides a psychological boost to the
> individual if they feel like they are looking their best. And
> how others perceive you makes a difference. Dress like a bum,
> you will attract bums.
>
> Or do you feel recovery should be made more difficult?
>
life where I *could* wear anything I want to and there is
absolutely NOTHING that anyone could do about it...aside from
certain places that have stated dress codes. When I was employed, I
had to kow-tow to what my employers wanted as a dress code. I find
it interesting that when I wear the only suit in my possession
(tailor-made, BTW), I get all sorts of "sir" this and "sir" that.
Yet, when I wear, say jeans and a sweat shirt, with just as much
money/credit in my wallet, I sometimes get treated differently. Of
course, now with my mostly bald head and fringe of grey hair, I do
tend to get more respect, regardless of what I wear. So it goes!
Sharx3335
May 16, 2012, 3:11:06 AM5/16/12
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activities--NOT at meetings of any kind.
Sharx3335
May 16, 2012, 3:13:08 AM5/16/12
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>> Three things I need not worry about anymore ... being the
>> director ...
>> being an actor ... or being a doormat.
>>
>> So again I say let the individual decide for themselves ...
>
>> director ...
>> being an actor ... or being a doormat.
>>
>> So again I say let the individual decide for themselves ...
>
> Freedom is very satisfying, isn't it? "I owe my soul to the
> company store….."
>
Gar seldom passes up a chance to bash Corporate America.
> company store….."
>
Sharx3335
May 16, 2012, 3:14:35 AM5/16/12
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"Stuart" <fred(NOSPAM)@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>> Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>> (or did you, if you no longer go to AA)?
>>
>> Just curious....
>>
>> I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such
>> as blue
>> jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
>>
>> From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed
>> up!
>> Of course he was the *king* so he had to dress for suck-cess!
>
> Yes, sometimes I wear clothes, sometimes with shoes...
>>
>> Just curious....
>>
>> I generally found most people only came in casual clothing such
>> as blue
>> jeans, but there were always a few that came in suit and tie.
>>
>> From the pictures I've seen, Bill W was almost always dressed
>> up!
>> Of course he was the *king* so he had to dress for suck-cess!
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What about some of the ladies with their "fuck-me pumps"?
Sharx3335
May 16, 2012, 3:17:42 AM5/16/12
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JoeRaisin
May 16, 2012, 6:58:42 AM5/16/12
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JoeRaisin
May 16, 2012, 7:00:58 AM5/16/12
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On 5/15/2012 6:01 PM, Ex-AA_Forever#7428...@myplace.com wrote:
wearer was being an inconsiderate ass about it - but I can see you doing
that.
JoeRaisin
May 16, 2012, 7:10:18 AM5/16/12
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On 5/15/2012 6:01 PM, Ex-AA_Forever#7428...@myplace.com wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:35:58 -0400, "Jimbo"<jbl...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> <Ex-AA_Forever wrote in message
>>> Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>>
>> When I started in AA most men wore suits or sports jackets to meetings.
>> Today, half the people look like they've been dragged thru a hedge.
>>
>> It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you look like a bum.
>> I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look sober.
>>
>>
>
> What does sober look like?
> I've seen people dressed in filthy clothing who were drunk
> I've seen guys dressed in casual clothing who were drunk
> I've seen guys at wedding receptions dressed in a tuxedo who were drunk
> I've even seen naked people who were drunk
>
> On the other hand, I've seen all of the above sober too.
>
> Yea, there's a limit to coming to meetings (or anywhere in public),
> looking like a slob. In fact awhile back I saw a guy get kicked out of
> a bar because the guy was so filthy and smelled so bad that he was
> driving away other customers. (I was told the guy works for the
> sanitation dept. and never bathes).
> folks
>
>>
>> <Ex-AA_Forever wrote in message
>>> Do you dress up for AA meetings?
>>
>> When I started in AA most men wore suits or sports jackets to meetings.
>> Today, half the people look like they've been dragged thru a hedge.
>>
>> It is hard to convince anyone that yer mentally ok when you look like a bum.
>> I was taught that if yer going to be sober, then look sober.
>>
>>
>
> What does sober look like?
> I've seen people dressed in filthy clothing who were drunk
> I've seen guys dressed in casual clothing who were drunk
> I've seen guys at wedding receptions dressed in a tuxedo who were drunk
> I've even seen naked people who were drunk
>
> On the other hand, I've seen all of the above sober too.
>
> Yea, there's a limit to coming to meetings (or anywhere in public),
> looking like a slob. In fact awhile back I saw a guy get kicked out of
> a bar because the guy was so filthy and smelled so bad that he was
> driving away other customers. (I was told the guy works for the
> sanitation dept. and never bathes).
I don't believe you. I don't believe most of your stories. You come
off like a Dilbert character called "topper".
Is this one of the reasons folks don't listen to you at meetings? Do
they know that all they will hear are the same old complaints followed
by another brand new lie?
Skeezix LaRocca
May 16, 2012, 8:21:29 AM5/16/12
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On 05/15/2012 08:34 PM, F.H. wrote:
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> /There's/ my visual for the day. Thanks LaRocca.
Don't mention it Frank...I posted with you in mind...You do pretty good
>
> /There's/ my visual for the day. Thanks LaRocca.
with the visuals. :)
Skeezix LaRocca
May 16, 2012, 8:24:46 AM5/16/12
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On 05/16/2012 03:11 AM, Sharx3335 wrote:
>
> Shorts have a place at the beach or while doing athletic activities--NOT
> at meetings of any kind.
>
How about at your least favorite aunts funeral?
>
> Shorts have a place at the beach or while doing athletic activities--NOT
> at meetings of any kind.
>
Skeezix LaRocca
May 16, 2012, 8:31:48 AM5/16/12
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> I don't disagree with you, Fred. However, I've reached a point in life
> where I *could* wear anything I want to and there is absolutely NOTHING
> that anyone could do about it...aside from certain places that have
> stated dress codes. When I was employed, I had to kow-tow to what my
> employers wanted as a dress code. I find it interesting that when I wear
> the only suit in my possession (tailor-made, BTW), I get all sorts of
> "sir" this and "sir" that. Yet, when I wear, say jeans and a sweat
> shirt, with just as much money/credit in my wallet, I sometimes get
> treated differently. Of course, now with my mostly bald head and fringe
> of grey hair, I do tend to get more respect, regardless of what I wear.
> So it goes!
>
>
Of course you're going to get more respect in your suit Dave...Seeing as
>
> I don't disagree with you, Fred. However, I've reached a point in life
> where I *could* wear anything I want to and there is absolutely NOTHING
> that anyone could do about it...aside from certain places that have
> stated dress codes. When I was employed, I had to kow-tow to what my
> employers wanted as a dress code. I find it interesting that when I wear
> the only suit in my possession (tailor-made, BTW), I get all sorts of
> "sir" this and "sir" that. Yet, when I wear, say jeans and a sweat
> shirt, with just as much money/credit in my wallet, I sometimes get
> treated differently. Of course, now with my mostly bald head and fringe
> of grey hair, I do tend to get more respect, regardless of what I wear.
> So it goes!
>
>
how your sweat shirt is lettered with "Hey Bitch, show your tits!".
Tex
May 16, 2012, 9:08:06 AM5/16/12
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wrote:
>Shorts have a place at the beach or while doing athletic
>activities--NOT at meetings of any kind.
You'd be upset about 9 months of the year around here (my little bit
of the world). Here people wear them to just about any event you can
imagine.
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May 16, 2012, 11:19:19 AM5/16/12
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>I wonder what they do in a nudist colony AA meeting?
Well ... I bet they don't wear shorts. :)
Well ... I bet they don't wear shorts. :)
Stuart
May 16, 2012, 12:32:48 PM5/16/12
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good friend of mine, Heather..recently had a birthday at the Grace
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> On 2012-05-16 13:08:06 +0000, Tex <twizz...@hotmail.com> said:
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> >> activities--NOT at meetings of any kind.
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> > of the world). Here people wear them to just about any event you can
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Probably barf. Or laugh their balls off. People who wear butt plugs
are more obvious.
Sharx3335
May 16, 2012, 7:21:59 PM5/16/12
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> On 2012-05-16 07:13:08 +0000, "Sharx3335" <shar...@hotmail.com>
>> Bash? I owe a great deal to 'corporatte America' including a
>> very good living and a lot of money.
> l I don't think it's perfect in every way though. I think the
> greed (aka profit motive) sometimes (inadvertently,, of course)
> hurts people's lives. It's too bad that capitalism, for all its
> positives, doesn't have a human element to it. Sigh.
Gary, don't give up so easily on capitalism. Like any other "ism",
it is practiced by *individuals*. Sure, I tend to be a capitalist,
in matters financial. However, in my business...income tax
preparation...I use my position as sole owner and arbiter, to apply
MY values in how I operate MY business, e.g. widows/orphans tend to
get charged lower fees. The wealthy tend to get charged MUCH larger
fees for the same amount of effort on my part. Beginning to show
my innermost leanings, perhaps? Key is, it's my assets and income
at stake. However, if I was administering OTHER people's assets,
e.g. as a public servant, I would NOT be so free and loose with
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> greed (aka profit motive) sometimes (inadvertently,, of course)
> hurts people's lives. It's too bad that capitalism, for all its
> positives, doesn't have a human element to it. Sigh.
Gary, don't give up so easily on capitalism. Like any other "ism",
it is practiced by *individuals*. Sure, I tend to be a capitalist,
in matters financial. However, in my business...income tax
preparation...I use my position as sole owner and arbiter, to apply
MY values in how I operate MY business, e.g. widows/orphans tend to
get charged lower fees. The wealthy tend to get charged MUCH larger
fees for the same amount of effort on my part. Beginning to show
my innermost leanings, perhaps? Key is, it's my assets and income
at stake. However, if I was administering OTHER people's assets,
e.g. as a public servant, I would NOT be so free and loose with
OTHER people's money. Sadly, both capitalists AND
socialists/liberals are prone to doing this once they are in
positions of power.
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May 16, 2012, 7:24:31 PM5/16/12
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Well, I've being out of Grace, so to speak..the group, not the
spiritual state, for several years. Not sure I know of Heather. She
known for high-heeled pumps...open toe, even? I recall in my old,
degenerate days what happened to some poor ladies' shoes/boots when
they left them at our mutual place of employment, over the weekend.
Naturally, I included that in my 4th. Not.
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degenerate days what happened to some poor ladies' shoes/boots when
they left them at our mutual place of employment, over the weekend.
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May 16, 2012, 7:25:45 PM5/16/12
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air-conditioned? When not there, surely most vehicles? Therefore,
WHY the shorts, unless engaged in some outdoor activity...even
walking, hiking etc??
Sharx3335
May 16, 2012, 7:26:13 PM5/16/12
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> I wonder what they do in a nudist colony AA meeting?
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Worry a lot about erections/wet genitalia?
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Skeezix LaRocca
May 16, 2012, 7:59:02 PM5/16/12
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On 05/16/2012 07:24 PM, Sharx3335 wrote:
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> Well, I've being out of Grace, so to speak..the group, not the spiritual
> state, for several years. Not sure I know of Heather. She known for
> high-heeled pumps...open toe, even? I recall in my old, degenerate days
> what happened to some poor ladies' shoes/boots when they left them at
> our mutual place of employment, over the weekend. Naturally, I included
> that in my 4th. Not.
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Gadzooks Sharx...Tell me you didn't.....jizz in her shoes ?
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> Well, I've being out of Grace, so to speak..the group, not the spiritual
> state, for several years. Not sure I know of Heather. She known for
> high-heeled pumps...open toe, even? I recall in my old, degenerate days
> what happened to some poor ladies' shoes/boots when they left them at
> our mutual place of employment, over the weekend. Naturally, I included
> that in my 4th. Not.
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Tex
May 16, 2012, 7:59:52 PM5/16/12
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:25:45 -0600, "Sharx3335" <shar...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hell I can't answer for everyone ... and there are plenty of people in
long pants ... but there are plenty who wear shorts and do so almost
year round. I'd guess the main reason is comfort and 2nd would be
fashion.
Deliver people wear shorts ... cops on bicycles wear shorts ... what
can I say ... old people wear them / young people wear them ... shorts
are pretty much just accepted ... bare feet and tank tops ... most
places draw the line on them, public places that is ... but you see
enough people in public wearing both ... so they must just avoid the
places that don't allow them.
I've worn them without second thought to so many different places it
would be hard to list them all.
wrote:
long pants ... but there are plenty who wear shorts and do so almost
year round. I'd guess the main reason is comfort and 2nd would be
fashion.
Deliver people wear shorts ... cops on bicycles wear shorts ... what
can I say ... old people wear them / young people wear them ... shorts
are pretty much just accepted ... bare feet and tank tops ... most
places draw the line on them, public places that is ... but you see
enough people in public wearing both ... so they must just avoid the
places that don't allow them.
I've worn them without second thought to so many different places it
would be hard to list them all.
mike
May 16, 2012, 8:08:11 PM5/16/12
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Crosseyed And Painless - Big Bear Bad Ass
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"Skeezix LaRocca" <fatl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Standard procedure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eySYW_xOaw
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peace
mgh
Skeezix LaRocca
May 18, 2012, 10:13:01 AM5/18/12
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