> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT9I-36aim8
Of course you do. Because you're a smarmy, politically correct
airhead... An activist at ten years old...? His mother should be
horsewhipped for lettin' him get involved in shit like that at that
age... Small wonder this country is goin' to hell, with people like
you and her around...
If anyone ought to be horsewhipped it would be you and the congress
for perverting our land with god.
Exterminate god god dammit
Yer Mom should have washed yer stinkin' little mouth out with soap,
you psycho asswipe... Screw with me and Ill activate that chip in yer
back and you'll be shittin' through two assholes...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT9I-36aim8
If you agree, or not with this kid, you've got to admit, he's got BIG BRASS
BALLS !!!
Not many adults, let alone a 10 yr. old, would hold up under the pressure.
If we'd have had a nation of people like that during the Viet Nam War, we'd
have 55,000 people that could have been alive today, instead of giving
their lives for Big Business & to top it off, they kicked our ass.
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A fartin' horse is ready to retire....A fartin' man's the one to hire.
He has been well coached.
Jim
I say good for him. I think he has an excellent point in this case.
Unfortunately, though, I have a feeling he'll end up working for the
ACLU one day.
>
> He has been well coached.
> Jim
>
Possibly, but I don't think by his dad...Pops was clearly uncomfortable
about the whole thing, but in his son's corner.
a 7:06 video, wow..........They don't even give the *real* important
issues that much time.
Obviously this kid has no clue about the *other* side of that coin, and
dad got his 7 minutes of fame. The referance to the word *liberty* has
more ramifications than he obviously understands which of course is not
the kids fault, the issue has two sides not just one.
Religious liberty and gay marriage: Is Oaks right? Yes and no
Interesting. Wonder what long range impact his 15 minutes of fame will
have on his life.
It's sad to see a kid manipulated this way.....
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The Ubuntu Counter Project - User# 28648
-Ayn Rand, 'The Virtue of Selfishness'
http://thecriticalthinker.wordpress.com/critical-thinking/rational-life/
> http://thecriticalthinker.wordpress.com/critical-thinking/rational-life/
Ironic quote coming from an atheist. Human beings are primarily
emotional creatures. No amount of /rational/ *thinking* or /activism/
(avoiding emotion?) will ever change that. Indeed, Rand herself was
emotionally scared and it showed in her /irrational/ obsessions and her
biography shows its easier to talk the talk of 'virtuous, rational
behavior than than it is to walk the walk.
Thanks for the link. Due to some recent writing on Rand I've become
more interested in her, and /much/ more sympathetic.
Good for him!!!
--
- Sandy
"Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of
the light." - Dylan Thomas
> Ironic quote coming from an atheist.
Atheists do that all the time.
"All" is a lot. Got any examples handy? 'Pronouncing *Moral* judgment'
IME, is not generally the /dominion/ of those who do not espouse a
higher power. Perhaps you were thinking ethics.
Morals get talked down by atheists *all* the time.
So..., you are making a generalization, about atheists for "talking
down" morals *all* *the* *time*, but are not able to offer *one* example?
Sounds like you are taking to heart the recommendation of atheist Rand
to "never fail to pronounce moral judgment." Did you /get/ why I used
the word "ironic" in my original post?
So, Fred, is "Living Ethically Without God, Gods or Demons" the same as
'never failing to pronounce moral judgment? I've only been paying
attention to this shit for 6+ decades and thats left me with a
/subjective/ opinion that /generally/ the calling for "moral judgment"
falls into the dominion of preachers. You know, the Falwell and
Robertson types.
The calls for ethical behavior however, seems to be more the domain of
agnostics and others who have chosen to......, well, as the book title
suggests. ;)
> Nope.
>
> Morals get talked down by atheists *all* the time.
>
And believers don't do any talking down, I'll give you that much...They're
to busy blowing others up in the "My God's Gotta Bigger Dick Than Your
God" war.
>
> The calls for ethical behavior however, seems to be more the domain of
> agnostics and others who have chosen to......, well, as the book title
> suggests. ;)
>
I do believe you're right...Someone give Frank a cigar.
Bring it on maqggot. I fuck with you ya pussy.
I'll bash your jello republican conservative skull in. You and the
rest of the American maggots deserve execution.
Exterminate the US Military
Yea like after the christians begin torturing him.
Exterminate the US Military
They ought to teach it in school.
We don not need this god dammned god bull shit shoved down our
throats.
Exterminate Allah
ACLU is not at all interested in individual sovereignty.
They are a bunch of religious cowards taught by the US military.
Exterminate god god dammit
Kinda like "My Non-Entity's Gotta Bigger Dick Than Your Anything" war. :-)
>
> Kinda like "My Non-Entity's Gotta Bigger Dick Than Your Anything" war.
> :-)
>
>
Yeah, but minus the blowing up part...Sing along now...Praise the Lord, and
pas the ammunition.
Christ one asshole leaves and another one shows up. We are doomed I
tell you, doomed!
Unless......
Isn't that the truth!!!!!!
Makes you wish for the good old days of Nestique and Fransway.
These new assholes have no imagination.
LOL
Have you ever considered that the assholes are the ones who are still
here?
RonG
Ya think?
Naw ain't got the smarts to pull it off.
I've read some classic Nestique and that guy was good at what he did.
Don't know about the other guy
LOL, You are on a roll, Ron. :)
What the hell! Since Tedw & now Mike left, I checked in this afternoon
and there were only 20 or so posts instead of the normal 100 plus. Need
to keep the hive stired up a bit or we will all die from boredom and Tex
will be right about the demise of araa.
RonG
Maybe keeping his dark side under wraps was just too much. On the other
hand, somewhere along the line this thread got cross posted.
Sure... why not?
'Cause some of the folks that...
Hey!
Wait a minute!
You meant ME!
Why I oughtta...
THat is right. Exterminate the christian jew military
Allah akbar my ass
You don't like it? Turn in your weapons and get the hell out of the
USA.
Exterminate the Christian military
>> Exterminate the Christian military
> Weapons are what will return the USA to the people. JUst wait,
> were not too far away from a civil war.
We who can spell know that we are indeed very far from a civil war.
This fantasy exists only in nazi and commie dreams.
How long you been on his trail, Zoli?
Funny - Fransway and I got along really well. We didn't agree on everything,
but we were always pleasant to one another.
How can he hide ... he's monitored 24/7?
For /some/ reason...., I never see him.
Jaysuz they're breeding like friggin rabbits. You know there is
something to say about a moderated ng.
You can help by ignoring, kill file the subject line, the sender and/or
delete the cross posted group before replying.
>>>> Exterminate the Christian military
> The civil war has already begun. Use of weapons will only confirm
> it.
Which version of the dream are you having, the nazi or the commie?
>>> We who can spell know that we are indeed very far from a civil
>>> war. This fantasy exists only in nazi and commie dreams.
>> The civil war has already begun. Use of weapons will only
>> confirm it.
> Jaysuz they're breeding like friggin rabbits. You know there is
> something to say about a moderated ng.
Say whatever you like but this group has no moderation. This is a Free
Speech zone.
How can any of us hide, Tex?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z12FsYvohHI
We are a group of men and women who've lost the ability to moderate....
You really git into some weird shit! :)))))
Damn, that's pretty good CW!
This isn't a free speech zone ... it's a clusterfuck! tedw is the only
admitted moderation we have, but he's on a mission at the present.
We had a preview with your namesake ...would you rather have that?
I am not sure google can do all that but I sure would like to have
that happen
Oh that...
Google? Somebody help this man.
I am not hiding. Bring it on Pussy and I will kill your goddamned
alcoholic ass.
Exterminate the US Military
Children should be allowed to carry weapons to kill conservative
pussys like you.
Exterminate the US military
What is been now?
Something like 172,800 seconds. What an achievement.
But you gotta admit, she could be hilariously creative.
So far Google is the only usenet service that has not banned my posts.
Exterminate the US military
>>> The civil war has already begun. Use of weapons will only
>>> confirm it.
>>Which version of the dream are you having, the nazi or the commie?
> Neither. Look around you and talk to people who don't agree with
> you. Anger and disgust with current federal government is rampant.
> The 2010 congressional elections are the last chance to restore
> order and reverse the unsustainable path bozama is leading America
> to.
Ah, the nazi version. Dream on. No one will bother to wake you.
` Roll out. . the barrel . . .
yawn.
a whole 222,222 seconds. Wow. What a bunch of losers. And you
probably just released a steamy pile of dog agent mosquito at a
newcomers motel room. Burrowing out of its coat.You are sitting around
playing the joy stick photographing citizens at their barbeque. While
dog shit agents are holding hands and singing on national television.
Encore
Pot. Kettle. Black.
roll out the barrel
I doubt it. His father was surprised at the
depth of his conviction, and really didn't
even seem all that intense about it.
We *have* religious liberty. Giving
consenting adults the right to marry isn't
even close to being the same thing as
stripping away the right to practice
religion. That's absurd.
There's a difference between not stroking
someone's religion versus preventing its
practice. Givin gays the right to marry
simply doesn't stroke the religious right.
They get to believe whatever they want, they
just don't have the right to infringe on
another adults civil rights.
The only "other" side of that coin is folks
who have no ability to keep their noses in
their own consenting adult business. Whether
a gay person can legally marry another
consenting adult of the same gender doesn't
change even the most fanatical religious
zealot's personal life or marriage one bit.
And frankly, what a religious zealot obsesses
over is none of anyone else's concern either.
That "two sides of the coin" thing makes no
reasonable sense at all. The ONLY side of the
coin there should be is the side that is
actually, depply effected on a daily basis.
Anything else falls into the "Go deal with
your own household" category.
Probably nothing long term. But he has a
stronger sense of consistency of
convictions....which I like.
I have a friend who lives that kind of
consistancy. I'd say about 75% of the time I
dont even agree with him, but I truly respect
that he *lives* his beliefs, rather than just
states them while expecting others to do the
grunt work. I also respect that his means of
expression, much like this kid, involves only
himself. He takes full responsibility for his
beliefs and actions (yes, this is the Randian
:-) and limits the expressions and
manifestations of his beliefs to what impacts
*his* life and he keeps his focus in that
direction. I have nothing but respect for
that, even when his beliefs are diametrically
opposed to my own.
Now *there's* a huge leap towards an
assumption with no basis.
If this kid was doing it for God and Country,
or doing it in support of fully funding and
supporting our troops heath and well being,
somehow I doubt you'd assume this was a
manipulation.
This wasn't a balloon boy situation. This kid
was way smarter than the adult involved. I
strongly felt that he came up with this. He
actually reminded me of a friend of mine who
is an Aspie. The way his mind followed a very
specific sort of local progression and the
way he refused to veer from the conclusions
he drew from that progression was very much
like my Aspie friend. I have no idea if this
kid is or isn't, but it lent credibility to
me that he came to this on his own.
Funny. I actually agreed with you until
*this* statement.
But that was just ridiculous.
I could give less than a shit what the fags & religious nutjobs
do....Its called fairness in the issues, something people seem to not
have the ability for anymore, its my way or the highway.
This is a fight between the fags & the religious nuts. The fags scream
that their rights are being infringed on yet they are just as guilty as
the religious nutjobs of *shoving* this down everyone else's throat.
That's the bottom line of this issue, yes the religious sect is what's
dictating this crap not the normal average non-religious person like
myself & it annoys me how the fags are handling this as well as the
religious nuts.
If a particular group does NOT WANT to accept fags marrying than that is
their right, not the FAGS shoving & forcing it down their throats & vice
versa, that's one of the bottom lines of this that FAGS just can't
accept it, people voted, DON'T want it and the fags in turn make it out
to be like they are victims........BULLSHIT. Both the fags & the
religious nutjobs should just move on & get over it.
No go ahead & say something creative, I'm not listening.
Funny, I remember YOU screaming about
derogatory and sterotyping language when I
called NYC bus drivers "stupid" one time.
Apparently you reserve the right to use
bigoted, insulting and steroetyping language
when it suits you, but scream like a girl
when someone else does it.
Oh wait....for a moment there I forgot how
big a hypocrite you've *always* been. Nevermind.
> that their rights are being infringed on yet they are just as guilty as
> the religious nutjobs of *shoving* this down everyone else's throat.
Ah, no. Total fabrication.
Shoving something (like a right or an ideal)
down someone's throat, by definition,
involves forcing someone else to participate.
No one is forcing anyone to marry, same
gender or otherwise, therefore gays are *not*
shovin anything down anyone else's throat.
So, no....the two groups are not even
remotely doin the same thing.
> That's the bottom line of this issue, yes the religious sect is what's
> dictating this crap not the normal average non-religious person like
> myself & it annoys me how the fags are handling this as well as the
> religious nuts.
>
What? By trying to have rights applied equally?
HOW DARE THEY!?!?
[eye roll]
> If a particular group does NOT WANT to accept fags marrying than that is
> their right,
Um, that is not a right. Go read the
constitution, then come back and play.
I can accept or not accept anything I
want....but making my acceptance (or lack
thereof) actual LAW is a totally different thing.
Why religious nuts even spend an inordinate
amount of time thinking about what consenting
adults do or who they choose to marry is
nothing more than their inability to stop
obsessing about the object of their
resentment (kind of like you have trouble
doing from time to time). Gays being allowed
to marry does not actually impact the lives
of anyone else *one bit*. There is no
"shoving" of any ideas or acceptance down
anyone else's throat outside of what is a
constitutionally given right.
> not the FAGS shoving & forcing it down their throats & vice
> versa, that's one of the bottom lines of this that FAGS just can't
> accept it, people voted, DON'T want it and the fags in turn make it out
> to be like they are victims........BULLSHIT.
So you think that if we decided to vote
slavery back in that we have the right to do
that? Seeing as how you believe that mob rule
is the same thing as democracy and all....
(constitution? What's that???)
> Both the fags & the
> religious nutjobs should just move on & get over it.
>
One of those groups you mentioned actually
*has* all the rights in question. The other
one does not. It only makes sense that the
groups who *does not* have the rights would
continue to fight for them. I bet they don't
even care that you find that process annoying.
> No go ahead & say something creative, I'm not listening.
You never have. Why change now?
Big difference idiot.
> Apparently you reserve the right to use
> bigoted, insulting and steroetyping language
> when it suits you, but scream like a girl
> when someone else does it.
Big difference idiot.
> Oh wait....for a moment there I forgot how
> big a hypocrite you've *always* been. Nevermind.
Different *issue* idiot. You're comparing what seems to be a civil
rights issue to you calling bus drivers stupid? BIG difference in issues
idiot!
> > that their rights are being infringed on yet they are just as guilty as
> > the religious nutjobs of *shoving* this down everyone else's throat.
>
> Ah, no. Total fabrication.
>
> Shoving something (like a right or an ideal)
> down someone's throat, by definition,
> involves forcing someone else to participate.
>
> No one is forcing anyone to marry, same
> gender or otherwise, therefore gays are *not*
> shovin anything down anyone else's throat.
> So, no....the two groups are not even
> remotely doin the same thing.
Really? I mean you seriously believe that......(LMAO)
> > That's the bottom line of this issue, yes the religious sect is what's
> > dictating this crap not the normal average non-religious person like
> > myself & it annoys me how the fags are handling this as well as the
> > religious nuts.
> >
>
> What? By trying to have rights applied equally?
>
> HOW DARE THEY!?!?
>
> [eye roll]
Let them roll away.
> > If a particular group does NOT WANT to accept fags marrying than that is
> > their right,
>
>
> Um, that is not a right. Go read the
> constitution, then come back and play.
>
> I can accept or not accept anything I
> want....but making my acceptance (or lack
> thereof) actual LAW is a totally different thing.
>
> Why religious nuts even spend an inordinate
> amount of time thinking about what consenting
> adults do or who they choose to marry is
> nothing more than their inability to stop
> obsessing about the object of their
> resentment (kind of like you have trouble
> doing from time to time). Gays being allowed
> to marry does not actually impact the lives
> of anyone else *one bit*. There is no
> "shoving" of any ideas or acceptance down
> anyone else's throat outside of what is a
> constitutionally given right.
Yeah right, stepped back into your fantasy zone again eh.
> > not the FAGS shoving & forcing it down their throats & vice
> > versa, that's one of the bottom lines of this that FAGS just can't
> > accept it, people voted, DON'T want it and the fags in turn make it out
> > to be like they are victims........BULLSHIT.
>
> So you think that if we decided to vote
> slavery back in that we have the right to do
> that? Seeing as how you believe that mob rule
> is the same thing as democracy and all....
> (constitution? What's that???)
You're comparing slavery to FAGS wanting to marry??? (LMAO) Stretch a
little more why don't ya.
> > Both the fags & the
> > religious nutjobs should just move on & get over it.
> >
>
> One of those groups you mentioned actually
> *has* all the rights in question. The other
> one does not. It only makes sense that the
> groups who *does not* have the rights would
> continue to fight for them. I bet they don't
> even care that you find that process annoying.
>
> > No go ahead & say something creative, I'm not listening.
>
> You never have. Why change now?
Do you have a life besides being a bleeding heart liberal & having
something to say about everything, I mean seriously? (LMAO)
Fags are fags & religious nutjobs are nutjobs, liberals on the other
hand I leave to ones imagination.
I could give less than a shit about the fags & the christian aspect of
all of this, all I merely pointed out, especially with LIBERALS, that
the opposing sides issues don't seem to mean squat, and you just proved
to me how one sided you are as opposed to just seeing a *simple* think I
pointed out.........I'm not on either side of this & don't give a shit,
you're the one making a big deal out of it........Now please, get laid,
walk a dog, restart a beating heart or something and get a life for your
own sanity.............;(LMAO)
Strictly guesswork with regard to long term whether by professional or
not. Its a lot of notoriety for a child. Parenting will have a big
influence. Not much to go on there but my reaction to the father
(surprisingly) was positive.
> I have a friend who lives that kind of consistancy. I'd say about 75% of
> the time I dont even agree with him, but I truly respect that he *lives*
> his beliefs, rather than just states them while expecting others to do
> the grunt work. I also respect that his means of expression, much like
> this kid, involves only himself. He takes full responsibility for his
> beliefs and actions (yes, this is the Randian :-) and limits the
> expressions and manifestations of his beliefs to what impacts *his* life
> and he keeps his focus in that direction. I have nothing but respect for
> that, even when his beliefs are diametrically opposed to my own.
Very interesting paragraph.
One person's leap........
See the kid video about hockey. He was driven to that too. Except is
was cute and funny and not political.
That kid isn't, as you put it..
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JimB
The Ubuntu Counter Project - User# 28648
When in Rome, as they say ;-)
I can see that by your repeated use of very derrogatory words that:
A. you are trying to get a bit of attention here and
B. you are trying to stir up the pot.
--
- Sandy
"Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of
the light." - Dylan Thomas
Nothing prevents gays from LIVING together. Nothing they do and no laws that
they get passed will convince NORMAL people that what the gays do is
acceptable or right.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Bingo! You win a kewpie doll!
Bingo!
You win a Vintage kewpie brass hood ornament car mascot!
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Ahhhhhhh, the proverbial blacks can call each other niggers but how dare
anyone else.
> A. you are trying to get a bit of attention here and
Trust me, I don't need attention.
> B. you are trying to stir up the pot.
Nope, was just trying to be fair by posting the opinion of the *other*
side of the coin......And what happened as usual, railroaded by the
bleeding liberals because how dare someone present their case as well.
As I said I could give a shit about the FAGS & religious nuts.