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megabite

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I'm reminded in my program that I'm powerless over people, places,
things, and events. However, one of my biggest pet peeves is the
refferal to "Thanksgiving" as "Turkey Day" Jeeeeesh! I hate that. What
ever happened to the once gratefull attitude most Americans usually
expressed during this wonderful holiday? Do we let this can of worms
infect our culture to the point that the upcoming Christmas holiday will
soon be reffered to as "Tree Day" or "Gift Day"????????....... Lets See:
"Election Day" will now be called "Chad day" or....."Veterans Day" to be
called "Get over it day"............."New Years" could be called "Party
day"....... "Halloween" could be called "Candy Day" so forth and so on.
It's just that I've really got so much to be gratefull for, and I
dislike the absence of any semblence of gratitude that the term "Turkey
Day" connotes. Is it just me? :(

Craig S.

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megabite <Mega...@tir.com> wrote in message
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> one of my biggest pet peeves is the
> refferal to "Thanksgiving" as "Turkey Day" Jeeeeesh! I hate that.

> Is it just me?

Yes, it's just you, Ron.

Craig (Keeping the X in X-mas)

Edward May

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in article 7JDS5.10414$rs4.7...@nntp2.onemain.com, megabite at
Mega...@tir.com wrote on 11/21/00 9:37 PM:

You're not alone, Ron. We need a "bitch about holiday nickname's"
day.

(Easter) Egg Day Ed


megabite

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Now I know why I refuse to acknowledge my English heritage. Thanksgiving Ole
boy! is a day to give thanks for the bountiful harvest. That Harvest having
different meanings to different people. A time of contemplatitve gratitude
and reflection for what we have been blessed with. Got the bloddy idea
now.....eh?
Ted F. wrote in message <3a1e2df9...@news.zip.com.au>...
>On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:37:13 -0800, "megabite" <Mega...@tir.com>
>wrote:

>
>>I'm reminded in my program that I'm powerless over people, places,
>>things, and events. However, one of my biggest pet peeves is the
>>refferal to "Thanksgiving" as "Turkey Day" Jeeeeesh! I hate that. What
>>ever happened to the once gratefull attitude most Americans usually
>>expressed during this wonderful holiday?
>
>OK, educate us non-Americans. Why is it called Thanksgiving Day, what
>date is it celebrated on and why on that particular day/date?
>
>In the UK where I am from originally, at the Sunday School that I
>attended, we used to have something called a harvest festival. The
>congregation used to take in some produce and it was sold off to raise
>money for the church. Presumably the harvest festival was to give
>thanks for the produce having grown. It was always held on a Sunday,
>as far as I remember, 40-50 years ago now, so it wasn't on the same
>day/date each year.
>
>Ted F.

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Bette C. wrote in message ...
snip
>http://www.plimoth.org/Library/Thanksgiving/firstT.htm
>
>Apart from Thanksgiving dinner, harvest festivals are
held in various
>New England towns throughout October.
>


I think these are quite common all through the rural
area of the north east. Donna & I always try to get
around to a few. It helps bring some closure to the
wonderful warmth of summer so as to get us ready for the
white hell that is falling out there right now.

One of these days we're going to get to some up your
way.

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Slid out of my dreams like a
baby out of the nurse's hands
onto the hard floor of day.

Bruce Cockburn


Jim B.

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Ted F. wrote >

> OK, educate us non-Americans. Why is it called Thanksgiving Day, what date
is it celebrated on and why on that particular day/date?

It's called that b/c the great bulk of American men can sit in front of the
boob tube and watch NFL games with out the old lady carping at them. So they
are thankful.
Jimb


megabite

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Aussie Renegade wrote in message <8FF3DF78...@216.166.61.11>...
>
>Mega...@tir.com (megabite) wrote in
><7JDS5.10414$rs4.7...@nntp2.onemain.com>:
(Snip)
>No body cares what you hate you self-centered idioto. And why
>would you be so moronic as to inflict
>what you hate as a subject title to the entire newsgroup?
>
>We thought we had finished driving out the flamers and spammers.
Indeed,
>just as we are getting our beautiful garden of recovery pared down to
>a glowing loving cup to the steps, you come along with your negative
>postings, flapping on and on whatever might irritate your wimpy
>grey matter.

I see that your still here!

>We are most weary of you. Get out, or you will be moderated out. Go to
the
>arfers,where you belong, cur!

According to my private E-mail just the apposite is indeed the case.
Glad to see that you have so much serenity and are a positive role model
for others.


>Don R.
>Jan 2, 1989

megabite

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That's a "REAL MAN" Secure in his masculinity so as, not to be
threatened by helping out in the kitchen. Confident in his abilties to
help his spouse and that help being welcomed. My kinda guy! :)
MizKimba wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:35:17 -0500, "Jim B." <jbl...@videotron.ca>
>wrote:

>
>>It's called that b/c the great bulk of American men can sit in front
of the
>>boob tube and watch NFL games with out the old lady carping at them.
So they
>>are thankful.
>
>My American man doesn't like football. In fact, he'll be busy in the
>kitchen getting dinner ready.
>
>Kimba
>
>"You did then what you knew how to do, and when you knew better, you
did better."
> ---Maya Angelou
>
>remove golightly and invalid to reply

JoeRaisin

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You are not alone...

--
JoeRaisin


megabite <Mega...@tir.com> wrote in message
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> I'm reminded in my program that I'm powerless over people, places,
> things, and events. However, one of my biggest pet peeves is the
> refferal to "Thanksgiving" as "Turkey Day" Jeeeeesh! I hate that. What
> ever happened to the once gratefull attitude most Americans usually

> expressed during this wonderful holiday? Do we let this can of worms

Bette C.

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Ted F. <ted.fl...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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>
> OK, educate us non-Americans. Why is it called Thanksgiving Day, what
> date is it celebrated on and why on that particular day/date?
>
> In the UK where I am from originally, at the Sunday School that I
> attended, we used to have something called a harvest festival. The
> congregation used to take in some produce and it was sold off to raise
> money for the church. Presumably the harvest festival was to give
> thanks for the produce having grown. It was always held on a Sunday,
> as far as I remember, 40-50 years ago now, so it wasn't on the same
> day/date each year.
>
> Ted F.
>

Ted, it seems that it is very much related to the English tradition of
harvest festivals.

This is an excerpt from the URL for "Plimoth Plantation" which is just
down the road a piece from where I live....

"The "First Thanksgiving": Facts and Fancies

The event we now know as "the First Thanksgiving" was in fact neither
the first occurrence of our modern American holiday, nor was it even a
'Thanksgiving" in the eyes of the Pilgrims who celebrated it. It was
instead a traditional English harvest celebration to which the colonists
invited Massasoit, the most important sachem among the Wamapanoag. It
was only in the nineteenth century that this event became identified
with the American Thanksgiving holiday.

For more information:
http://www.plimoth.org/Library/Thanksgiving/firstT.htm

Apart from Thanksgiving dinner, harvest festivals are held in various
New England towns throughout October.

Bette C.


Aussie Renegade

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Mega...@tir.com (megabite) wrote in
<7JDS5.10414$rs4.7...@nntp2.onemain.com>:

>I'm reminded in my program that I'm powerless over people, places,


>things, and events. However, one of my biggest pet peeves is the
>refferal to "Thanksgiving" as "Turkey Day" Jeeeeesh! I hate that.

No body cares what you hate you self-centered idioto. And why
would you be so moronic as to inflict
what you hate as a subject title to the entire newsgroup?

We thought we had finished driving out the flamers and spammers. Indeed,
just as we are getting our beautiful garden of recovery pared down to
a glowing loving cup to the steps, you come along with your negative
postings, flapping on and on whatever might irritate your wimpy
grey matter.

We are most weary of you. Get out, or you will be moderated out. Go to the
arfers,where you belong, cur!

Don R.
Jan 2, 1989

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Nov 22, 2000, 12:06:36 AM11/22/00
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GigaNews?????
Naaaaahhhhhhh...

Come on you guys... you can do better than this.

post or lose an 'n' to reply

Slid out of my dreams like a
baby out of the nurse's hands
onto the hard floor of day.

Bruce Cockburn

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Erwin

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"Now An Extra 62 Cookies In Every Sack!" <ral...@usaor.net> wrote in
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>
> One of these days we're going to get to some up your
> way.
>

How were the Leonid showers? Did you get a chance to see them?

I set my alarm, but rolled back over and slept.

--
Erwin


Lance Dannan Bresee

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"megabite" <Mega...@tir.com> wrote:
> I'm reminded in my program that I'm powerless over people, places,
> things, and events. However, one of my biggest pet peeves is the
> refferal to "Thanksgiving" as "Turkey Day"

I'm a direct decendant of John and Priscilla,
and my grandmother used to have all sorts of reprints of Mayflower
documents.
It's not clear that they even HAD turkey at the original thanksgiving
feast.
They had chicken and vennison.
And corn.
Lots of corn.

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MizKimba

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Erwin wrote in message
<8vfrre$sdo$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>...

>How were the Leonid showers? Did you get a chance to
see them?
>
>I set my alarm, but rolled back over and slept.
>


No we didn't. Too cloudy. We tried looking a night on
either side of it and still had too many clouds.

Too bad... the boy really enjoys that stuff.


ralph

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Traitor.


MizKimba wrote in message ...

Craig S.

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Ted F. <ted.fl...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> OK, educate us non-Americans. Why is it called Thanksgiving Day, what
> date is it celebrated on and why on that particular day/date?

It is celebrated on the 4th Thursday in November each year. It commemorates
European settlers introducing devastating diseases to the native North
Americans and eventually robbing them of nearly every square inch of land on
the continent. Oh, yeah, this was *after* the natives kept the unprepared
Europeans from starving that first winter in Plymouth (MA).

MizKimba

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On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:53:24 -0500, "Now An Extra 62 Cookies In Every
Sack!" <ral...@usaor.net> wrote:

>Too bad... the boy really enjoys that stuff.

He's gonna be President and CEO of Spacely Sprocket, I just know it.

MizKimba

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On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:25:26 -0800, "megabite" <Mega...@tir.com>
wrote:

>That's a "REAL MAN" Secure in his masculinity so as, not to be
>threatened by helping out in the kitchen. Confident in his abilties to
>help his spouse and that help being welcomed. My kinda guy! :)

Well, he is. He can cook and clean and do laundry - and he does. I
don't know how this would work if he didn't. He's a pretty good cook,
too - must be the French in him :)

MizKimba

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On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:54:23 -0500, "Now An Extra 62 Cookies In Every
Sack!" <ral...@usaor.net> wrote:

>Traitor.

There'll be a little something extra in HIS cookie sack, too :)

Tommy kins

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I take it there is a TV in the kitchen,
Oops, let the cat outta the bag did I?
Sorry for my continued absence, be back full-time within a week - at
least.

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MizKimba <kimbagolightly775@.att..invalid.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:35:17 -0500, "Jim B." <jbl...@videotron.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >It's called that b/c the great bulk of American men can sit in
front of the
> >boob tube and watch NFL games with out the old lady carping at
them. So they
> >are thankful.
>
> My American man doesn't like football. In fact, he'll be busy in
the
> kitchen getting dinner ready.
>

MizKimba

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On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:20:24 -0000, "Tommy kins" <Tomm...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

>I take it there is a TV in the kitchen,
>Oops, let the cat outta the bag did I?

Nope :) No TV in the kitchen and no cats in any bags, either :)

>Sorry for my continued absence, be back full-time within a week - at
>least.

Hope all is well.

Love,

Tommy kins

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MizKimba <kimbagolightly775@.att..invalid.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:20:24 -0000, "Tommy kins"
<Tomm...@indigo.ie>
> wrote:
)
>
> >Sorry for my continued absence, be back full-time within a week -
at
> >least.
>
> Hope all is well.
>
> Love,
> Kimba

Everything is fine and dandy thanks ver much, just so busy (making
moolah for the holidays), I figure I might get in a trip westward ho,
but Mrs K is talking about a front porch extension/extension, gotta
keep one step ahead of the neighbours!! dontcha know. Theres a lovely
new brick on the market, sort of a dull gold/yellow, with markings,
looks nice, I think she saw it in a homemakers magazine (prolly one of
mine). Beats covering everything once a year with the cheapest paint
in the bargain shop :-))
Tommy


Tommy kins

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Victoria <ani...@animaux.net0> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:02:02 -0800, "megabite" <Mega...@tir.com>
wrote:

>
>
>
> >Glad to see that you have so much serenity and are a positive role
model
> >for others.
>
> Mega, this is Usenet. Lots and lots of pretty, ahem, interesting
people here.
> Many of them propose to know you after two or three sentences. It
is a strange
> world we live in. I didn't really expect there would be any more
health in this
> newsgroup than any other, and I was not inaccurate.
>
> Oh well, Happy Thanksgiving. I will spend some time with my most
beautiful of a
> man husband, some friends we have much in common with and our day
will be most
> relaxing.
>
> Have a good one.
>
> Victoria
Now why Victoria - why would you only see ill-health in our ramblings
and musings. Beauty being in the eye of the beholder, I would've
figured I take the good stuff and slew on through what don't appeal to
me. If it were that ill, I reckon I'd be on my way, these people for
the most part are my friends, good staunch supportive friends,
particularly supportive when a persons in trouble.

Maybe if you backed on out - had a lurk - and came in with a clean
slate, as it were, you might view us through different coloured
spectacles. Of course I have no idea of your past experiences with
newsgroups, but my own tally so far has always been to stay away from
where I don't feel welcome or comfortable. But I don't have all the
answers - loadsa questions - very few and very vague answers, ymmv.

Cheerio and godbless

MizKimba

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:05:02 -0000, "Tommy kins" <Tomm...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

>Everything is fine and dandy thanks ver much, just so busy (making


>moolah for the holidays), I figure I might get in a trip westward ho,
>but Mrs K is talking about a front porch extension/extension, gotta
>keep one step ahead of the neighbours!! dontcha know. Theres a lovely
>new brick on the market, sort of a dull gold/yellow, with markings,
>looks nice, I think she saw it in a homemakers magazine (prolly one of
>mine). Beats covering everything once a year with the cheapest paint
>in the bargain shop :-))

Heh - happiness begins at home, you know :)

MizKimba

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:24:04 GMT, Victoria <ani...@animaux.net0>
wrote:

> I'm pretty up on who is and who is not quite all there.

Well that's a relief - at least someone around here knows.

MizKimba

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:59:20 GMT, Virtualoso <virtu...@innocent.com>
wrote:

>In article <4sat1tk51hvq2mqbq...@4ax.com>, MizKimba


><kimbagolightly775@.att..invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:24:04 GMT, Victoria <ani...@animaux.net0>
>> wrote:
>>

>> > I have been lurking around here for years. I'm


>> > pretty up on who is and who is not quite all there.
>
>> Well that's a relief - at least someone around here knows.
>

>Maybe she'll do us the service of putting it in the FAQ. That'd save
>others all those years of lurking research and maybe turn on the lights
>for the rest of us still puzzling such things out, too.

But what if some of 'em turn out to be the ones we thought had it all
together? I'm not sure my delicate emotional state could take such a
blow.

Where'd I put my araa blinders, anyway...

Tommy kins

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Victoria <ani...@animaux.net0> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:12:18 -0000, "Tommy kins"
<Tomm...@indigo.ie> >
> That's a projection on your part. I never said I felt
uncomfortable or
> unwelcome. You said that. I have been lurking around here for

years. I'm
> pretty up on who is and who is not quite all there.

Heh heh, well then stop yer whinging - If I'm not mistaken, you've
just done taking someone to task for not knowing 'you' - yet you
'know' all about 'us' being there or all there, quite a judgement
call, would you say.

However, whatever humps your camel, or takes your horse to water, just
don't try to make 'me' drink it - I have unusual tastes and some tasty
projections!!!

Anyway, now that you've introduced yourself, by your reckoning, I can
take your inventory, as I 'know' you, pleased to meetcha :-))

Tommy

~Fr. Thomas~ `

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Virtualoso wrote:

> After your admitted years of lurk research on everyone here, to be sure
> that you've guaged just who is what and all, I'm sure you realize that
> you, too, are being subject to the same scrutinies and ratings. Even
> now.
>
> Obviously, you appreciate the merit of that.
>
> So how about you sharing some of your findings?

Well, she wasn't sure if I was a priest so...............

Frank

Mark Warner

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"~Fr. Thomas~ `" <conn...@earthlink.net> wrote

You're NOT!!!!????

Damn. Now I'm *really* confused.

So what's the deal with that Rob guy? Don't tell me he's NOT an OTB
junkie.....


Mark Warner


~Fr. Thomas~ `

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Virtualoso wrote:
>
> In article <8vppg...@news2.newsguy.com>, Mark Warner

> <markw...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > "~Fr. Thomas~ `" <conn...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > > Virtualoso wrote:
> > >
> > > > After your admitted years of lurk research on everyone here, to
> > be sure
> > > > that you've guaged just who is what and all, I'm sure you
> > realize that
> > > > you, too, are being subject to the same scrutinies and ratings.
> > Even
> > > > now.
> > > >
> > > > Obviously, you appreciate the merit of that.
> > > >
> > > > So how about you sharing some of your findings?
> > >
> > > Well, she wasn't sure if I was a priest so...............
>
> > You're NOT!!!!????
> >
> > Damn. Now I'm *really* confused.
>
> Might also raise some interesting questions about just what he's doing
> with all our confessions, then, eh? ;-)

I took them to a murky area and read them to a bi-sexual friend of mine.
:) He thinks there's a new sitcom in the minutiae.

Fr. Thomas

~Fr. Thomas~ `

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Virtualoso wrote:
>
> In article <3A20803C...@earthlink.net>, ~Fr. Thomas~ `

> <conn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Virtualoso wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <8vppg...@news2.newsguy.com>, Mark Warner
> > > <markw...@att.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "~Fr. Thomas~ `" <conn...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > > > > Virtualoso wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > After your admitted years of lurk research on everyone here, to
> > > > be sure
> > > > > > that you've guaged just who is what and all, I'm sure you
> > > > realize that
> > > > > > you, too, are being subject to the same scrutinies and ratings.
> > > > Even
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Obviously, you appreciate the merit of that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So how about you sharing some of your findings?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, she wasn't sure if I was a priest so...............
> > >
> > > > You're NOT!!!!????
> > > >
> > > > Damn. Now I'm *really* confused.
> > >
> > > Might also raise some interesting questions about just what he's doing
> > > with all our confessions, then, eh? ;-)
> >
> > I took them to a murky area and read them to a bi-sexual friend of mine.
> > :) He thinks there's a new sitcom in the minutiae.
>
> Details, details. So how come you hyphenate bisexual? And do you also
> do that with heterosexual and homosexual? THEN we might check about
> Omni-Sexual.

I sorta drawl certain words, specialy since I been meditatin. Like
by-------cycle and bi---------sexual. Well seems spell check don't
preciate a drawl but has nothin agin a single hyphen.

Bubba

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