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M.I,5.Persecution ` buggi ng a nd counter-surv eillance

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Jan 1, 2008, 4:00:52 AM1/1/08
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PO: >Did you ever look for the bugs in your house ? If not, why not ? I mean. if
PO: >I thought that was happening to me, I'd. search the place from top to bottom,
PO: >I mean. I live there I would know if anything was out of place. If I was
PO: >really suspicious, I. would call in one of those bug detection teams which
PO: >have those machines that pick up. the transmitted radio waves. This
PO: >reminds me. of BUGS, that new programme on BBC1 on

That's exactly what. we did. We went to a competent, professional detective
agency in London,. paid them over 400 quid to debug our house. They used
scanner devices. which go to over 1 GHz and would pick up any nearby
transmitter in that range, they also checked the phones. and found
nothing... but if the tap was at the exchange, then they wouldn't. find
anything,. would they?

CS: >Doesn't this. suggest to you that there are, in fact, no bugs to be found?

You can assume that they've done this sort of thing to. other people in more
"serious" cases, where they would know the targets. would suspect the
presence of. electronic surveillance. So they will have developed techniques
and devices which are not readily detectable either by. visual inspection or
by electronic means.. What those techniques might be, I couldn't guess.

In this case, the. existence of bugging devices was clear from the
beginning, and they. "rubbed it in" with what was said by the boy on the
coach. It was almost as if they wanted. counter-surveillance people to be
called in, who they knew would fail. to detect the bugging devices, causing
loss of credibility to the other things I. would have to say relating to the
harassment.

I did all the things someone in my situation would. do to try to find the
bugs. In addition to calling in professional. help using electronic
counter-surveillance, I made a close visual inspection. of electrical
equipment, plus any points where audio or video. surveillance devices might
have. been concealed. Of course, I found nothing. Normal surveillance
"mini-cameras" are quite. noticeable and require visible supporting
circuitry. It seems to me the best place to put. a small video surveillance
device would. be additional to a piece of electronic equipment such as a TV
or video. It would be necessary to physically break in to a property. to fit
such a. device.

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Jan 15, 2008, 5:24:29 PM1/15/08
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I bring unto my holy mountain, and accept therein sacrifices, for mine house
is a house of prayer."

That the true Jews considered their merit to be from God only, and not from
Abraham. Isaiah 63:16: "Doubtless thou art our Father, though Abraham be
ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not. Thou art our Father and our
Redeemer."

Moses himself told them that God would not accept persons. Deut. 10:17:
"God," said he, "regardeth neither persons nor sacrifices."

The Sabbath was only a sign, Exod. 31:13; and in memory of the escape from
Egypt, Deut. 5:19. Therefore it is no longer necessary, since Egypt must be
forgotten.

Circumcision was only a sign, Gen. 17:11. And thence it came to pass that,
being in the desert, they were not circumcised, because they could not be
confounded with other peoples; and after Jesus Christ came, it was no longer
necessary.

That the circumcision of the heart is commanded. Deut. 10:16; Jeremiah 4:4:
"Be ye circumcised in heart; take away the superfluities of your heart, and
harden yourselves not. For your God is a mighty God, strong and terrible,
who accepteth not persons."

That God said He would one day do it. Deut. 30:6: "God will circumcise thine
heart, and the heart of thy seed, that thou mayest love Him with all thine
heart."

That the uncircumcised in heart shall be judged. Jeremiah 9:26: For God will
judge the uncircumcised peoples, and all the people of Israel, because he is
"uncircumcised in heart."

That the external is of no avail apart from the internal. Joel 2:13:
Scindite corda vestra,104 etc.; Isaiah 58:3, 4, etc.

The love of God is enjoined in the whole of Deuteronomy. Deut. 30:19: "I
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