Uk Mods
pb
might not know that two UK mods have resigned over "differences" of
opinion. Why only two out of the three? What happened to one out all
out, a bit of solidarity? The last time we had a similar situation all
the mods resigned together. Why have I written here instead of the uk
forum? Because there it would be deleted by the remaining mod, who is
quite happy to obey orders apparently.
nemo
Any idea what the issue is concerning the "differences"?
When I started placing caches and interacting with the moderators, I
was very surprised to learn how contentious they were willing to be.
Usually this sort of "culture" derives from the top. In this case I
would say the CEO and founder. I don't know him, but I have seen him
act in a very confrontational manner. I can see where he would be
happy to resolve issues with solutions like resignations.
pb
says...
> pb <pe...@nochance.com> wrote:
> > I don't know how many UK cacher view this ng, but for those others you
> > might not know that two UK mods have resigned over "differences" of
> > opinion.
>
> geocaching Web sites.) What were the differences of opinion?
>
>
Don't know, nobody is saying but it seems to be about a heavy handed
interference from a "higher authority". It may have been about a
charity, but caches and later, comments in the forum were chopped off
without explanation. Any posts asking for the whys or reasons were cut.
The attitude seems to be "It's my game and I'll do what I want"
nemo
> The attitude seems to be "It's my game and I'll do what I want"
That is geocaching.com. They didn't invent the game. They don't own
it. But if you are going to use their web site, you are going to do
exactly what they say.
That is one of the reasons why I won't pay for a premium membership.
I don't feel like I want to support an organization that is so
controlling.
Incognito
There is a very strong feeling in the US that the GC.COM website must not
get highjacked for anything which remotely could be construed as commercial
or political. What is viewed as commercial or political in one sphere is
viewed, lets say, over in the UK as perfectly normal.
So, for instance, the UK Forums regularly had regularly thought it
reasonable to have charity sponsorship discussions and caches. TPTB in the
US and many others in the US perceive the word 'charity' as having the
meaning means 'tax dodge' - ie a commercial get around.
A 'senior' Moderator cuts a UK posting which he believes contravenes
guidelines: well it does under one interpretation and the UK rises in
revolt. For two of the reviewers who have been here before (the tsunammi
appeals), this was one chop too much and the put their pencils away for
ever.
The reverse is also true: for a long time the GC.COM powers in the US
allowed GoogleAds to place adverts for 'The Referendum Campaign' completely
unaware that this was a political grouping organising the UK exit from the
EU. They considered, until the details were pointed out, that this was not
political advertising but democratic advertising and thus fine.
As I say - its a culture thing.
In the end the two reviewers who stepped away have done it for many years,
and they really did need a break. I feel for them. GC.COM may well be a
little chastened by things but the reins will slacken again and everything
will return to normal.
nemo
> nemo wrote:
> entrenched. You can read about the early history of geocaching athttp://geocaching.gpsgames.org/history
Yes, I have read about that. Clearly the web site can't operate
without rules and means of protecting itself. But I don't think that
GC.com always acts in the best interests of the sport, but rather in
the best interests of the owners of GC.com.
No point in ranting about it. Just like any large, anonymous company,
GC.com does what it wants mostly without regard to what the users
think. At this point they have a virtual monopoly.
I have placed one cache with Terracaching.com, one of my better caches
if I say so myself. In the two years it has been up, only one person
has sought it. Terracaching is not big in this area. But I may put
up others and see if I can get geocachers interested.
Cheers!
Rick
P&T
"pb" <pe...@nochance.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.227a4e7b4...@news.ntlworld.com...
The Groundspeak Lackey that appeared and locked the threads in the UK forum
(M*** J***) and created all the bad feeling in the process, is the same
person who was contacted by the remaining Reviewer a week or two back to put
a cacher's picture on the main banner page of the GC website.
It could well be that these two folks know each other quite well and also I
guess that's how come that a Lackey from the USA has taken a bit more
interest in the UK forums of late and had noticed that the UK Reviewers take
a more "balanced" approach to forum posts, etc.
It's going to leave a big hole, but I understand that the post(s) will soon
be filled. As to whom that could be, I Simply can't tell you!
nemo
> "pb" <p...@nochance.com> wrote in message
I have gotten pretty turned off by the whole reviewer thing to the
point where I just don't care about gc.com or much of the caching
community. There are just too many different agendas and opinions.
Around here it seems to be a good ol' boys club in many ways.
Sometimes the rules are interpreted to the letter, but when it suits
someone with authority, the rules can be readily ignored.
I occasionally cache and maintain the caches I own, but I no longer
bother to get involved with other cachers around here. It is nice
when I bump into someone while caching, but it is not at all the nice
little community that people would like you to think it is.