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m...@privacy.net

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Aug 4, 2008, 11:31:42 PM8/4/08
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This place on eBay has some great prices on Keen shoes
and other outdoor apparel

http://stores.ebay.com/Adrimar-Trading-Company

Anyone ever buy clothes from them? Or clothes off eBay
period?

The reviews look good but I'm leery

What you think?

ShadowTek

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Aug 5, 2008, 2:12:13 PM8/5/08
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m...@privacy.net wrote in news:7cif949rs8um2g6te...@4ax.com:

The general lesson that I have learned about buying things off of eBay is
that you should only buy brands that you have heard of. Never buy a no-name
brand that you can't find any decent reviews for with a Google search.

I feel slightly better about buying things on eBay now that they have dealt
with the retaliatory feedback problem.

drunkpoet

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Aug 6, 2008, 10:47:47 PM8/6/08
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I have purchased a lot of clothes via ebay. Underwear (12-pack Lee's
for $20), business socks, office shirts (known brands), even a pair of
shoes that I first tried on at Macy's and found for 2/3 price on
ebay. Ebay rocks for buyers...unfortunately they've been screwing
over their smaller sellers ever since the merger with Paypal.

Just be sure to check for positive feedback for sellers.

m...@privacy.net

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Aug 6, 2008, 10:55:59 PM8/6/08
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drunkpoet <slut...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I have purchased a lot of clothes via ebay. Underwear (12-pack Lee's
>for $20), business socks, office shirts (known brands), even a pair of
>shoes that I first tried on at Macy's and found for 2/3 price on
>ebay. Ebay rocks for buyers...unfortunately they've been screwing
>over their smaller sellers ever since the merger with Paypal.
>
>Just be sure to check for positive feedback for sellers.

OK thanks

I will have to setup a paypal acct to use ebay as I
don't have one


Like I said I've never used ebay period

I guess the price diff on the Keen shoes I found on
ebay is so much cheaper that from a traditional
retailer that I'm a bit wary of trying it

None4You

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Aug 28, 2008, 12:15:22 AM8/28/08
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<m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I use Flea bay alot. In spurts. Usually to get seasonal things I cant
find elsewhere. Or to clean house. Look at the feedback. And amount of
sales. I've bought boots, longjohns, fleece , socks, used appliances,
camping gear, books , ect. Flea bay is having a tough time right now. They
have lost their way. They usually have bad policy changes. Right now. If
you buy something use Paypal. As you can get your money back. If you sell
something accept , cash and postal or western union money orders only. Wait
for funds to clear before shipping .Ship using a receipt that it was
delivered. Because the buyer can get the item and make a claim on paypal
that he didnt get it.Up to about two months later. And he will get his
money back if you don't have a receipt that he received the item. Also a
seller isn't allowed to leave negative feedback against a buyer anymore.
Even if he ripped you off. Like I said flea bay has lost the way. But
deals are there. Its not about honesty anymore. Its just a regional Flea
market . Don't buy or sell to or from Asian countries, Germany, Mexico.
Stick to the English speaking countries. Australia only uses paypal now. So
if you send something you can lose your money. Don't sell to anyone with no
or negative feedback. Me personally I wont sell to under five positive
transactions. People screw up the packing too, I've got broken items that
pisses me off due to negligence. Something really old. And you cant do much
about it. If you really want it . There's a lot of fake stuff too . Like
designer purses and such.


ShadowTek

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:03:52 AM8/28/08
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"None4You" <None...@nospam.cya> wrote in
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> Also a
> seller isn't allowed to leave negative feedback against a buyer anymore.
> Even if he ripped you off.

They had to do something about the retaliatory feedback, where a seller
would leave negative feedback for any buyer that ever left negative
feedback for them. This was a way of blackmailing buyers into doing "mutal
withdrawals", and the seller would end up with a clear record, even if they
screwed the buyer over.

Personally, I think that a better way would have been to have allowed the
seller x number of days to leave feedback about the buyers payment, and
then give the buyer x+y number of days to leave feedback for the buyer.
That way, everybody gets a chance to speak, by the buyer can safely wait
until x number of days has passed, so that they can avoid retalliatory
feedback.

But I'm glad they finnaly did do something about it.

None4You

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Aug 29, 2008, 8:19:36 PM8/29/08
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"ShadowTek" <FA...@EMAIL.ADDRESS> wrote in message
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The feedback system was better when everyone had the chance to leave
feedback equally. If a rip-off buyer didn't respond to a complaint .The
buyer wins the case after 90 days. EBay assumed the buyer was a fake and
shut him off. For not responding. Unfortunately what has happened now. Is
the creation of the paypal rip-off. The buyer gets the item , checks it
for a delivery receipt. If there's not one. He makes a claim that he didn't
get it. Paypal refunds his money after an investigation. When the seller
cant prove it was delivered. And after tying up the sellers account for 90
days. If the seller just sent the item regular mail, UPS,or FedEx. In
otherwords what everyone uses. He's screwed. The seller cant state the
buyer is a scammer or do anything about it. For the next sellers . Because
he cant leave feedback. Even though he just got scammed for an item and the
payment. Ebay lets the buyer continue to do so for ever. Because he keeps
winning his complaints . Ebay keeps getting there cut. From the selling item
percentage and Paypal. And is happy to do so. The buyer gets the item and
his money back. And Ebay is attempting to end cash , or money order
payments. And continue the process. And has done so already in Australia.
Which protects the seller. What's more unscrupulous then that. They
wouldn't do this before. Its about getting new unscrupulous buyers to buy.
And sellers to have to let them do so. And sellers to pay for the complaint
. And the item. New buyers are the problem causers. And Ebay gave them a
free hand to be rip-off artist at buyers expense. And of course Ebay to keep
getting their cut . And stockholders are happy too.


ShadowTek

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Aug 29, 2008, 8:57:43 PM8/29/08
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"None4You" <None...@nospam.cya> wrote in
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> The feedback system was better when everyone had the chance to leave
> feedback equally.

I don't see anything "good" about the old system, as far a leaving
feedback, for the reasons that I related before.

So what do you think of my x+y idea?


> If a rip-off buyer didn't respond to a complaint
> .The buyer wins the case after 90 days. EBay assumed the buyer was a
> fake and shut him off. For not responding. Unfortunately what has
> happened now. Is the creation of the paypal rip-off. The buyer
> gets the item , checks it for a delivery receipt. If there's not one.
> He makes a claim that he didn't get it. Paypal refunds his money
> after an investigation. When the seller cant prove it was delivered.
> And after tying up the sellers account for 90 days. If the seller just
> sent the item regular mail, UPS,or FedEx.

Yes, I have heard such things from other people, and the sounds like
there is a serious problem here. My point about the retaliatory feedback
issue is that when you remove all that negative feedbacks through
bullying, you are removing all warnings to new sellers about problems
with buyers.

Yes, I think that a better way can be found to deal with the problem
that you are describing, and retaliatory feedback, and that eBay has
missed the mark of doing both.


So, is the confirmed tracking aspects of UPS and FedEx not cosidered
"proof"? I should think so.

Of course, I would prefer to see a better policy about requiring sellers
to offer signature delivery. I hate it when I have no other delivery
options other than to allow a package of expensive goods to sit alone on
my front porch for all the passersby to see.

ShadowTek

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Aug 29, 2008, 8:59:25 PM8/29/08
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ShadowTek <FA...@EMAIL.ADDRESS> wrote in
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> . My point about the retaliatory feedback
> issue is that when you remove all that negative feedbacks through
> bullying, you are removing all warnings to new sellers about problems
> with buyers.

I meant SELLERS to be used at the end of that sentence, not buyers. lol

None4You

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Sep 1, 2008, 12:10:37 AM9/1/08
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"ShadowTek" <FA...@EMAIL.ADDRESS> wrote in message
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So, is the confirmed tracking aspects of UPS and FedEx not considered


"proof"? I should think so.

It is not. The delivery is confirmed. To the right address is not. All it
means is it was delivered. And the buyer claims it was not delivered to
him. UPS and FEDEX and the Post office then will state. No we cant prove it
was delivered to the right address. We don't write that down. Because they
just drop off the package. If you want that . You have to geta signature
from the buyer. Or make a lost package claim. The argument is null and
void if the seller used shipping that requires a signature . The problem is
people aren't home. And cost double or triple or more. The buyer may have to
go pick it up. And may refuse to do so. And then will leave negative
feedback about poor delivery. After an amount of time the package is sent
back to the seller. Where he can pay to have it delivered again. Feedback
stopped this problem. A buyer who gets multiple complaints about theft.
Won't be sold to anymore. EBay wants unscrupulous people to be sold too.
Period.


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