Putting Flyers in peoples mailboxes around town.
Thomas
and putting a carefully designed half page flyer into peoples
mailboxes as a means to generate some listings or visibility..
Was wondering if this is legal for me to do this? For example if I
wanted to put these flyers into 100,000 mailboxes around town?
Guess I am not sure if it is legal for me to be a mailman like this.
anyone else done this?
tom
ps. I sure hope my hp deskjet is up to the job!
MrSpiffy
Hi Tom,
I believe that putting things in a mailbox is not legal.
However I think the newspaper tube is fair game.
Check with the post office.
Jeremy Thurber
> and putting a carefully designed half page flyer into peoples
> mailboxes as a means to generate some listings or visibility..
>
> Was wondering if this is legal for me to do this? For example if I
> wanted to put these flyers into 100,000 mailboxes around town?
>
> Guess I am not sure if it is legal for me to be a mailman like this.
>
> anyone else done this?
Why not just drop a flaming bag of pooh and run away too? If you are going
to the house why not actually ring the doorbell and have a conversation with
the owner. Mailboxes are illegal but door hangers are not.
Truelly though...you won't make enough money doing this to even pay for your
overpriced deskjet ink.
LFR
the mailbox. I agree with Jeremy...why not take the time to have a
face-to-face conversation with the homeowner????
Lynn
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William Prien
mailbox.
You can put the flyers anywhere they will fit except the mailbox.
Of course you should try to talk to as many homeowners as possible.
Make up a flyer offering a free market analysis, or a flyer
advertising homes for sale in their neighborhood. Ask them if they
have any friends or relatives that are looking to move to the area.
The point is to talk to people and get you name out there. This is
probably the very best way of prospecting.
True, some people simply will say they are not interested, but others
will gladly talk to you, and some will be very intrerested in what
their houses are worth. Just make sure your flyers look professional,
and that they include your name and phone number,etc.
William
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Mitch Dickson
postage on it and go through the post office.
Here's a thought............Since leaving a flyer in the mailbox is a way
not to have to face the homeowner and deal with all that rejection, why not
just buck up and knock on the door? Guarantee you many more listings if you
knock on just 15 doors a day than mailing that 100,000 mailers. 15 a day
would take less than 2 hours and generate at least 4 listings a month
amounting to at least 50 grand a year. Not bad for hearing "NO" for just a
mere 2 hours a day.
C YA
Mitch
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D Smith
> NO! It is not legal to you a person's mailbox in that manner. It must have
> postage on it and go through the post office.
>
> Here's a thought............Since leaving a flyer in the mailbox is a way
> not to have to face the homeowner and deal with all that rejection, why not
> just buck up and knock on the door? Guarantee you many more listings if you
> knock on just 15 doors a day than mailing that 100,000 mailers. 15 a day
> would take less than 2 hours and generate at least 4 listings a month
> amounting to at least 50 grand a year. Not bad for hearing "NO" for just a
> mere 2 hours a day.
>
> C YA
>
> Mitch
All,
As a newbie this sounds like a great way to start generating some
revenue. However, most of the communities in my area are "planned
developments" with strong HOAs, and there clearly posted "No
Solicting" signs at every entrance.
How does one effectively negotiate this obstacle and still be
perceived positively by the residents when cold calling?
TIA,
--David
LFR
"D Smith" <dsmit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Let's look at this a little differently...If you knock on someone's door and
introduce yourself and have a conversation, you are not attempting to sell
anything but you are attempting to establish a relationship of sorts. Hand
them your business card or something of value (a pen with your name on it)
and don't be pushy. I know there's a fine line here, but just be friendly
and non-agressive and I bet you get some results.
As far as those no solicitation signs...I bet those people buy girl scout
cookies!!!
Lynn
Mitch Dickson
First off until they actually called the police or my broker, I would ignore
the "edict"!!! Second, if I had to, my reason for being there would be to
do a survey or get information for a "comparable market analysis" or if my
office had a listing close to there, I would be about seeing if someone
there was interested for a relative or friend that wanted to be in the area.
HOA's be damned, people who live there still have to sell their homes and
have the right to have a real estate professional represent them.
On the other hand David, I stand 6 feet 8 inches tall and weigh just a tad
over 300 :) I do NOT intimidate easily. Also, are there any other places
you can work with less hassle? Have you just got to work there? Poor man's
got to buy and sell same as a rich man. Most of the time the blue collar
folks are much more pleasurable to do business with, I have found.
There is an old book on this subject written back in 83 called "How to
Master The Art of Listing Real Estate" You can pick one up off the internet
for about 10 bucks. Make you a lot more than that David! Save you from
learning the hard way! (the expensive way to)
I don't work in the "regular" real estate market anymore David. I am an
Auctioneer! I prospect in bunches of 200 to 500 at a time! I merely call a
local school and set up a charity auction with the principal and the PTA or
PTO and I get 300 to 500 names and addresses freely given to me at sign in
and get a chance to make my spiel to a captive audience and raise 3 or 4
thousand dollars for the community. In 3 or 4 hours I can create good will
and drill my name indelibly into lots of homes with almost no effort or
expense. Remember a real estate agent has little or no defense against an
Auctioneer, that is why they avoid us :) For instance, can you guarantee a
customer the exact day his home will sell and when he will receive the
proceeds from the sale of his home? I can :)
Less than a month ago the team I work with sold a 343 acre farm. It took 46
minutes :) Final price $1,987,250.00. With the equipment and fixtures it
cleared just a bit over 2 mil. Not a bad Saturday morning. Just think of
all the people who work work work and struggle to sell a million dollars a
year in real estate. Now think about going twice that in a mere 46 minutes!
Want to see how the other half lives? Just attend the next multi-par real
estate auction in your area!!! It's MAGIC!
Point is David, people need your service! Prospecting is pure canned
aggravation but when you realize that if you knock on 10 doors you can get a
listing appointment and when you get to where you can close 1 out of 5 for a
listing at market value, (not an overpriced turkey), you will know that any
day, any time, any where, 4 to 5 hours of door knocking will put a real
live commission check in your pocket!!!! It is that simple, and that hard!
C YA
Mitch
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Steve Horrillo
Thanks Mitch! You're truly an inspiration. For the past year I've been
computer training Realtors. So I've seen all different types and since I'm
mostly tutoring them one on one I get to know them rather intimately. It's
amazing how many different ways there are to use a real estate license. One
thing I've found is that the classic Realtor who shows and lists homes and
has relied on referrals is starving to death these days. Many who haven't
had to market for 20 years are facing the prospect of prospecting. In their
desperation they're throwing away their last dollars sending out slick
postcards and bench advertising. And with the advent of CAN-SPAM and the
DO-NOT-CALL list they're petrified to even pick up the phone or even send
out an e-mail.
To the OP: IMO there's always going to be a percentage of people out there
opposed to free speech/trade/thought etc. Unless of course it's them that
are doing the speaking. That's why devices like the 1st Amendment were
drafted. Sometimes the negative minority prevails and we enter the Dark Ages
for a while. You need to make a choice. Are you going to let those sort of
thinkers be your master or are you going to live to help the good people?
Just because someone lives in a closed community doesn't mean they're as
closed minded as the people who thought up the rules. In fact ironically
most residents resent the restrictive covenants they live under.
Please don't let the occasional grump, condo commando, or some corporation
(publisher's lobbyist) instigated unconstitutional laws give you the excuse
to hide your light. If what you're offering is good you have an obligation
to share it with the world. If you in your heart believe a law is unjust or
unconstitutional you have obligation not to obey it if you value your
freedom. Those who don't follow their convictions usually find themselves
poor and enslaved. Whether it be 1776 or 2004. And let's not forget George
Orwell's 1984. :)
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All the best,
Steve Horrillo
EXIT Realty "think residuals"
WEBSITES: www.healtor.com and www.EXITremax.com
D Smith
> "Mitch Dickson" <mi...@volstate.net> wrote in message news:<10g5a7g...@corp.supernews.com>...
> > NO! It is not legal to you a person's mailbox in that manner. It must have
> > postage on it and go through the post office.
> >
> > Here's a thought............Since leaving a flyer in the mailbox is a way
> > not to have to face the homeowner and deal with all that rejection, why not
> > just buck up and knock on the door? Guarantee you many more listings if you
> > knock on just 15 doors a day than mailing that 100,000 mailers. 15 a day
> > would take less than 2 hours and generate at least 4 listings a month
> > amounting to at least 50 grand a year. Not bad for hearing "NO" for just a
> > mere 2 hours a day.
> >
> > C YA
> >
> > Mitch
>
All,
Thanks for the good info! I think the best way for me to keep out of
trouble (as some of the residents most surely do not want
solicitations) is to visit homeowners in the course of "market
research."
Does anyone have any thoughts on the best times/days to conduct
door-to-door (or telephone) research?
TIA,
--David
PS., Mitch, where would I learn more about out about multi-par real
estate auctions in my area (VA)? It is not clear to me what you are
selling that raises 3 - 4K for the community when you call the local
school/PTA ...
Jeremy Thurber
> Thanks for the good info! I think the best way for me to keep out of
> trouble (as some of the residents most surely do not want
> solicitations) is to visit homeowners in the course of "market
> research."
If you spend time worrying about the residents who don't want to be
solicited you may never find the ones that do. If you are afraid of hearing
"no" and "get lost" responses then you should find the closest emergency
exit and get the hell out of sales. Even a great salesman with a 30% - 40%
close ratio has to be tough-skinned enough to deal with rejecttion 60%-70%
of the time
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the best times/days to conduct
> door-to-door (or telephone) research?
How about when people are home?
Daniel Yim
solicitations.
Daniel
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Tyrone
Why ask that question here? Simply call the post office to find out
that what you contemplate IS illegal.
wilsdad
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Joe
> I was thinking of running around to as many neighborhoods as possible
> and putting a carefully designed half page flyer into peoples
> mailboxes as a means to generate some listings or visibility..
> Was wondering if this is legal for me to do this? For example if I
> wanted to put these flyers into 100,000 mailboxes around town?
> Guess I am not sure if it is legal for me to be a mailman like this.
> anyone else done this?
> tom
> ps. I sure hope my hp deskjet is up to the job!
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Reply: Although the homeowner bought and placed the mailbox, it is considered to be US Postal Service property and
inserting anything except bonafide mail that was placed in the box by the US Postal Service is not permitted by law.
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