When should you stop raving?
Michael Swearingen
figured this out So I thought I'd toss out this question which was, Is
there an age that you should just give up raving? Seems kinda stupid to
ask, but everyone has started looking a lot younger than me. Thing is that
I love the music and the vibe. Just curious what other folks would have to
say about it.
Peace
gremlin
used to be well into hard-house (and can still bounce about with the best of
'em), but the crowds were getting younger and (dare I say it?) not as open
and happy. Then I discovered psy-trance through Tribe of Frog and the
average age of the people who attend the events seems higher. Out of all my
friends who attend these events I am the youngest (at 32!!!). I'm going to
Ibiza in a couple of weeks with my best friends who are 40 and 48!!! The 48
year-old has had one heart-attack and the 40 year-old had COPD (Chronic
Olifactory and Pulmonary Disease) a couple of years ago. We'll keep going
until we can't carry on anymore I guess!
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"Michael Swearingen" <shadow...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Nailvarnish
> haven't
> > figured this out So I thought I'd toss out this question which was, Is
> > there an age that you should just give up raving? Seems kinda stupid to
> > ask, but everyone has started looking a lot younger than me. Thing is
> that
> > I love the music and the vibe. Just curious what other folks would have
> to
> > say about it.
> >
> > Peace
> >
A funny question that I had been contemplating myself. In fact it took
me 14 years to finally call it quits, even if I said I retired as many
times as Frank Sinatra, but this time I know I am done for sure -which
was about three weeks ago.
I mean since about 1998 I had slowly cut down the whole thing, mainly
sticking to smaller clubs but I still had this nostagia where I
thought I would have a big night every so often. So when a Brazilian
dnb DJ and MC came into town I decided to go with my friends. I just
absolutely hated the whole thing. I was bored, I didn't really enjoy
the music, I felt very uncomfortable that within our group was a
pregnant woman. She had every right to do what she needed or wanted
to, I have no say, but I personally found it disconcerting, especially
when she was smoking what I would deem and unreasonable amount of pot.
I just throught, well you know at some point in your life you have to
grow up and decide that responsibilites that are piling up should
overtake your love of the music, and whatever else you might like and
at 38, nine months of taking a break would seem possible. Of course,
until I am pregnant I can't say that I might not be so bored out of my
mind staying home that I would be tempted to do that, but at this
point of my life when I haven't been yet, I would say that it's
probably not something I would do.
I just watched how F-uped everyone was, how it was impossible to talk,
and just how dirty the place got. Also when I was faced with a choice
of remaining sober or taking a pill, I realized I just no longer
interested in getting high at all. I just didn't want to deal with the
consequences of the next few days, and I wasn't sure if it was even
going to be fun. By four am I decided to call it quits and went home.
I looked in the mirror and was horrified by how I looked, hair a bird
nest, my silver eye make up had slide onto my cheek bones, my off the
shoulder top had slipped down and my bra was showing. I just throught
"This is no way to be at 30" and fell straight into bed. The next day
I didn't make it to something that I had planned for months ahead, and
was extremely unhappy with myself. It really was the death knell to my
interest in the whole scene. And I am pretty sure I won't be tempted
to do it again. It was like I had to do it ONCE LAST TIME to be
REMINDED how much I had grown up since the early days of the whole
scene.
I think the time to quit is when you suddenly realize that you are no
longer the person you once were and there is no point in trying to
capture that moment again. You're obviously still enjoying it, so I
say go ahead, have fun. The day that you think "No more" will come on
its own.
Yan
The Shadow
have been going to parties for 5 years now. ( I am 26 now.) The number
has gone down dramatically, but the music I still listen to all the time
while driving, cleaning the apartment or whatever. I have become
disgusted with the scene to an extent, but I still make it out about 2x
a year. I go for the music and the dancing, that is all. Been sober
for 4 of the 5 years I have been doing this. Dont let other people take
something away from you.
Allan
superficial. When everyone at the event is more interested in snubbing than
partying. I've been to a few events where this has happened to me, so I just
don't come out. Toronto is suppose to be a rave capital but in recent years,
how you dress is more important than partying.
Allan
The additude has never changed. People in Toronto that go to raves are truly
clubbers that listen to a different type of dance music. They walk an urban
walk. They talk an urban talk. They dress like they own everything. When they
take E, the personality changes but the additude is still there. Their friends
form a clique. They begin to act like teen-agers that worry about popularity more
so than survival. (Off-Topic) I was listening to the radio(Z103.5F.M) last
summer and the host says to me, "this is in style and you don't even care." At
the time they were spinning music like "Miss Independance" and "Your Eyes" as house
music should be. At the same time this radio host is in his thirties and still
clubs. He never grew up, nor does he show any sign of maturity. Shure I can
see your point of going to a different location to party but it's all the same.
Toronto is cursed. Life is ment to evolve. I personally love a guy who doesn't
give a shit. He goes to the event just to listen to music.
>
> You shouldn't stop raving when that happens, just move to a different
> party.
>
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Allan
I started partying in 94 which was approximately 2 years after Energy Radio started
to promote events. Was I too late? The truth of the matter is that a club radio
station promoted rave and got the ball rolling before anybody knew what a rave was.
Sure there was raves in the eighties but only a small fraction of the people came out.
Is that the scene? Well when I first came out, additude crawled all over the place
like a highly contagious disease. People were not friendly but only to the "club" were
they friendly. It's like we never came out. When a kid falls in love with the music,
he learns to appreciate other things besides just music. He learns to let go of the
music and decides to take the breath of life as his favorite present. Life is about
letting go and making things new. People forget about how appealing a hit of E is
just by letting go.
>
> I don't just mean venue, I mean music too. All scenes start off great,
> get too popular, the wannabes take over and the people really into the
> scene for the right reasons go elsewhere.
>
> OK, the music will never always be to taste but if you want real
> people you have to stay ahead of the game. It is possible to go back
> to older style of music but only really when the next generation
> rediscover it.
>
> There's just no way an established DJ can play the same style to the
> same people year in year out without losing the vibe.
>
> I simply can't see how an older established DJ can create the same
> vibe and freshness unless he himself is pushing himself in new and
> interesting directions or he's managed to discover a fresh generation
> to listen to the music he plays. Sure, you might like these DJ's
> because of some kind of nostalgia but nostalgia is warm and fuzzy
> niceness whereas a proper vibe is like electricity, sharp and intense.
Michael Swearingen
surprised. Hey Gremlin...I got ya beat for age. ;)
"gremlin" <pboo5...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Michael Swearingen
just about anyone at parties out here in Cali.
I haven't been to one in a couple of years, with the exception of a party
that was held at a rotten location. Think that was
part of it. I prefer to have room to move around. Just me though. Wierd
thing was that no one really said anything (with the
exception of some dude trying to sell me E) to or my friends. Kinda wound
up feeling like an outsider at that one.
I honestly remember people being a LOT more open before.
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Allan
isn't for everyone. I have no regrets. I'm kind of glad that the all-star
snubbery happened cause you learn to look out for number one. I still love the
music mind you. I've only been to about 25 parties and most of them sucked.
There was this guy who use to ask me who I went to the party with. I'd reply
"nobody." He knew I had no clique of my own. I don't care, I don't let
stupid stuff bother me anyways. It's been such a long time since I've raved
that I have no concern for them. I'm more concerned about where my next
ciggarete is comming from. I smoke crack too. It's alot of fun. Better
than a hit of E and I've done good quality of both in the past. Crack. It's
like the funnest feeling. Peace.
Silverthrone
shoes, a pair of old cargos that started as pants, and whatever t-shirt I
can find.
When I first came into the scene I got caught in the consumtion cycle but
quickly realized that destryoing expensive clothes etc just to rave was
bullshit. I pointed this out to a Vancouver Sun editor that wrote a piece on
rave fashion, in which all the clothes were uber expensive, and told her
that most of my friends and I went to second hand stores to get our raving
clothes. She had the freakin audacity to call it the "low rent" look.
peace
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Marcus Goldade
ravers. The best part is my wife goes with me! We have been married
for almost 4 years, and have a blast when we go to a party and drop a
few caps.
Marcus
Rico
out together all the time. My wife to be, well we met at an afterhours house
party. I guess the rest is now history. We go out all the time together, I
think it shows how strong your relationship is. How you can find common
interests. I feel it makes for a sound marriage. Yet some times it takes a
couple of times till you find the right one. =) !
I got plans for us to go the another weekender coming up. Two days, friday
and saturday night. With a sunday brunch @ another location. Going to see
Tiesto, Cris Liebing and dj Rush. Peace.Rico.
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I can't agree more! But I'm really jealous! Tiesto?! We never have
any big names come to the island here. And we never have any raves to
speak of. All there is is a club called Liquid Ice. And all they play
is house. No D&B, no jungle, no garage, no hardcore!!! It sucks!
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so i guess 25 and 30 are your 'imaginary' limits, is that it?
25 for the US and 30 for the UK. Gee, I guess that means
i'm old...
10% over 40 ? maybe 50% of the under 40 are actually over 40
and just look younger...ever thought of that, or do they
actually have statistics on this shit...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 00:50:16 +0100, Dale Walker <da...@sorted.org> wrote:
>I'm well, well past 32 and I'm still out partying. The biggest worry
>for me is... Why are you worrying about it?
>
>Just do what feels natural. In London it's no problem for those 40+
>ravers providing they have the right attitude. Sure, an older couple
>doing the 'mum & dad at a wedding' dance ain't gonna be cool but if
>you've been at it for a while, are still enjoying it and can still
>connect with everyone around you they why stop!
>
>OK, it may have been weird 10-20 years ago to have people older than
>30 doing 'young persons' things but this is the 21st century where
>Senior Citizens go sky diving for crissakes. 'Being young' is getting
>older by the year.
>
>I go clubbing in London a hell of a lot and I reckon a good 30% of the
>crowd at most parties a are 30+ and it possible that up to 10% maybe
>40+. However, 'raving' in the UK is generally a 20-30 year old thing
>rather than a 15-25 year old thnig like it seems to be in the US.
>Anyway, whatever. Cool people are still cool when they get older. It's
>all about getting on with enjoying yourself and not worrying what
>other people think.
>
>On Thu, 12 May 2005 07:07:53 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd
>coming of christ) wrote:
>
>>i guess you should stop when you both agree to do so.
>>
>>On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 01:45:25 -0330, "Marcus Goldade" <mar...@goldade.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I'm 32 - born in 72 - and I still party like the little candy
>>>ravers. The best part is my wife goes with me! We have been married
>>>for almost 4 years, and have a blast when we go to a party and drop a
>>>few caps.
>>>
>>>Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Michael Swearingen [mailto:shadow...@earthlink.net]
>>>Posted At: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:56 AM
>>>Posted To: alt.rave
>>>Conversation: When should you stop raving?
>>>Subject: When should you stop raving?
>>>
>>>
>>> Had this discussion not too long ago with some friends and I still
>>>haven't figured this out So I thought I'd toss out this question which
>>>was, Is there an age that you should just give up raving? Seems kinda
>>>stupid to ask, but everyone has started looking a lot younger than me.
>>>Thing is that I love the music and the vibe. Just curious what other
>>>folks would have to say about it.
>>>
>>>Peace
>>>
>>>
>
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