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Bijan

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hey all,
i was just wondering. how many guys out here use glitter (when raving?).
whenever i do, the first reaction i get is, "are you gay?"...this coming from
fellow ravers! anyone else get this?? most ravers out here are the
mafia-looking type instead of candy ravers, etc. then again, i live out in
southern cal (right around los angeles)

-bijan

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Athrow

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bijan... they were right to ask if you were gay... any male wearing glitter to a
party must be. my suggestion to you is this: throw all of your glitter out and
never look back upon it. raves are not about glitter, they are about dancing...
glitter is for beautiful raving females.. it enhances their skin and their facial
features... it shouldn't enhance male features... what happens if some guy who's
not gay sees you and gets turned on by it? huh? HUH?!?! THEN WHAT!!! it's just
not fair... i say let go of your glitter and prepare to enter a better world.. a
new world... a world where women dance with glitter in provocative ways... an
anti male glitter wearing world... my perfect world.

Athrow

Maelstrome

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I differ one this... I'm what most would call a gothy.. I'm male and I
occassionally wear glitter... it depends on what outfit I am wearing... just
because I wear glitter and make up doesn't mean that I'm gay... it means
that you now are a bigot because in one of your last posts you were talking
about another person making stereotypes... by this post it shows me several
things... 1) you are a bigot 2) your are also stereotypical and 3) you are
homophobic.....


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IiI Dreame

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I personally see nothing wrong with a guy wearing glitter. Hell more power to
him. It's whatever you wanna do. If I saw a guy at a rave wearing glitter...I
would walk up to him give him a BIG hug and ask him if he had anymore to
share..... ::huggles to da glitter boys::

**Nikki**

Sati 00

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yup, i'm all for it too.. glitter is sweet

i'm in FL, and i never see guys wearing glitter... well, unless they're gay..
and yeah, i can say i'd probably assume someone was if they were wearing it,
but that doesn't matter... i've been wrong about people's sexual orientation
many times!! ...especially in the rave scene, u never know. so if it bothers
you that people ask, ya know..don't wear it... but it doesn't seem to bother
you, and that's cool...
i love glitter :D
peace
-miss sati

Maelstrome

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forgot to tell ya I wear skirts also guess that makes me gay huh?

Bijan ignore the idiot... do what YOU want to and don't be bothered by what
people think

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tib...@home.com

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LOL...mafia type?? I'm sorry, but I live in SO. Cali as well and I have
to ask, who's ass did you pull that out of?? If there is ANY prevalent
"rave group" it's the candy ravers and/or club kidds...go figure...

Bijan wrote:
>
> hey all,
> i was just wondering. how many guys out here use glitter (when raving?).
> whenever i do, the first reaction i get is, "are you gay?"...this coming from
> fellow ravers! anyone else get this?? most ravers out here are the
> mafia-looking type instead of candy ravers, etc. then again, i live out in
> southern cal (right around los angeles)
>
> -bijan
>

> ^Å^******************** † ^v^ † ********************^Å^

Bijan

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Athrow <ath...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>bijan... they were right to ask if you were gay...

they may have a right to ~ask~ but not in a demeaning way...

> any male wearing glitter to a
>party must be.

*Ahem* I beg to differ....

>my suggestion to you is this: throw all of your glitter out and
> never look back upon it.

fat chance....don't think there would be a garbage can large enough =)

>raves are not about glitter, they are about dancing...

and about having fun! weather it be with or without glitter. most of my raver
friends agree with me that most ravers don't really have to 'prove' anything
to anyone, and having to prove their masculinity and 'machoness' towards other
guys, instead of the mentality of others.

> glitter is for beautiful raving females.. it enhances their skin and their facial
>features...

people also glue it on paper, but that doesn't mean guys can't use it..

> what happens if some guy who's

>gay sees you and gets turned on by it? huh? HUH?!?! THEN WHAT!!! it's

i tell him i'm not gay, and walk away?

-Bijan
Glitter Boi

IiI Dreame

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GLITTER IS DA BESTEST!! ::huggles da glitter boiz::

**Nikki**

Bijan

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tib...@home.com wrote:
>LOL...mafia type??

Yeah! I can't beleive you haven't seen them! They're dressed in big suits,
complete with dress shoes and ties, and big 'ol trench coats! There was a grip
at the New Yars one I went to...

I'm sorry, but I live in SO. Cali as well and I have
>to ask, who's ass did you pull that out of?? If there is ANY prevalent
>"rave group" it's the candy ravers and/or club kidds...go figure...

actually, i don't know many candy ravers. most are hispani ravers (going back
to the mafia ravers...)

-bijan

Bijan

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In article <76n4ph$4dr$1...@nw001t.infi.net>, "Maelstrome" <now...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>forgot to tell ya I wear skirts also guess that makes me gay huh?

ooh, i have a kilt (no it's not plaid...black with pvc straps *yummy*), and a
dress coat of my own (both made for men, thank you very much)....

Pagis Delmeth

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Bijan wrote in message <76mmo3$56b$2...@camel19.mindspring.com>...

>hey all,
> i was just wondering. how many guys out here use glitter (when raving?).
>whenever i do, the first reaction i get is, "are you gay?"...this coming
from
>fellow ravers! anyone else get this?? most ravers out here are the
>mafia-looking type instead of candy ravers, etc. then again, i live out in
>southern cal (right around los angeles)


I often wear sparkles -- got this stuff that's like dust (very VERY fine)..
a little dab'll do ya. I know lots of guys who wear sparkles. Some of them
are gay. Some of them aren't. I've been asked if I am gay. I'm not. I
usually change the subject and make them wonder rather than take all the fun
out of it. Call me a closet hetero.

plur


tib...@home.com

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LOL...big suits? Never seen 'em! The only group I can fathom that is
closely related to what you are trying to describe are rebels, but they
are fools anyway, and I don't consider them ravers in the least amount
possible...all they're interested in is the hoochie ass girlies and
dressing like James Dean...heheh...makes me laugh...saw a shitload of
them at Metropolis, but never seen any at any parties...except at Bigger
in Mission Viejo, where I thought it was the voices in my head,
whispering, "E" and "Acid" as I walked past them. LOL And most of them
are of Spanish decent. LOL makes me laugh. By the way, glitter is
cool, doesn't make a man gay.

3am eternal...
Christy

Bijan wrote:
>
> tib...@home.com wrote:
> >LOL...mafia type??
>
> Yeah! I can't beleive you haven't seen them! They're dressed in big suits,
> complete with dress shoes and ties, and big 'ol trench coats! There was a grip
> at the New Yars one I went to...
>
> I'm sorry, but I live in SO. Cali as well and I have
> >to ask, who's ass did you pull that out of?? If there is ANY prevalent
> >"rave group" it's the candy ravers and/or club kidds...go figure...
>
> actually, i don't know many candy ravers. most are hispani ravers (going back
> to the mafia ravers...)
>

Maelstrome

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a kilt alright but if you have ever seen the garb that pinhead wears from
hellraiser then you'll notice that his skirt flares out a bit... usually I
go for that look with my skirts... :)


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>In article <76n4ph$4dr$1...@nw001t.infi.net>, "Maelstrome"
<now...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>forgot to tell ya I wear skirts also guess that makes me gay huh?
>
>ooh, i have a kilt (no it's not plaid...black with pvc straps *yummy*), and
a
>dress coat of my own (both made for men, thank you very much)....
>
>-bijan
>

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bre...@home.com

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I live around L.A. to. I've worn glitter on a whim and I'm not gay.
Althogh I was going to put some on a few weeks ago and my girlfriend
told me not to - she's wierd like that. Exactly where around L.A. do you
live? I'm in Mission Viejo. (South Orange County)

Bijan wrote:
>
> hey all,
> i was just wondering. how many guys out here use glitter (when raving?).
> whenever i do, the first reaction i get is, "are you gay?"...this coming from
> fellow ravers! anyone else get this?? most ravers out here are the
> mafia-looking type instead of candy ravers, etc. then again, i live out in
> southern cal (right around los angeles)
>

> -bijan
>
> ^Å^******************** † ^v^ † ********************^Å^

bre...@home.com

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It's fun athrow. It's like wearing baggy pants.

Athrow wrote:
>
> bijan... they were right to ask if you were gay... any male wearing glitter to a
> party must be. my suggestion to you is this: throw all of your glitter out and
> never look back upon it. raves are not about glitter, they are about dancing...


> glitter is for beautiful raving females.. it enhances their skin and their facial

> features... it shouldn't enhance male features... what happens if some guy who's
> not gay sees you and gets turned on by it? huh? HUH?!?! THEN WHAT!!! it's just


> not fair... i say let go of your glitter and prepare to enter a better world.. a
> new world... a world where women dance with glitter in provocative ways... an
> anti male glitter wearing world... my perfect world.
>
> Athrow
>

bre...@home.com

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-"By the way, glitter is cool, doesn't make a man gay."
Then why did you tell me not to wear it that night we went to Monster
Massive sweetie?

tib...@home.com wrote:
>
> LOL...big suits? Never seen 'em! The only group I can fathom that is
> closely related to what you are trying to describe are rebels, but they
> are fools anyway, and I don't consider them ravers in the least amount
> possible...all they're interested in is the hoochie ass girlies and
> dressing like James Dean...heheh...makes me laugh...saw a shitload of
> them at Metropolis, but never seen any at any parties...except at Bigger
> in Mission Viejo, where I thought it was the voices in my head,
> whispering, "E" and "Acid" as I walked past them. LOL And most of them
> are of Spanish decent. LOL makes me laugh. By the way, glitter is
> cool, doesn't make a man gay.
>
> 3am eternal...
> Christy
>
> Bijan wrote:
> >
> > tib...@home.com wrote:
> > >LOL...mafia type??
> >
> > Yeah! I can't beleive you haven't seen them! They're dressed in big suits,
> > complete with dress shoes and ties, and big 'ol trench coats! There was a grip
> > at the New Yars one I went to...
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I live in SO. Cali as well and I have
> > >to ask, who's ass did you pull that out of?? If there is ANY prevalent
> > >"rave group" it's the candy ravers and/or club kidds...go figure...
> >
> > actually, i don't know many candy ravers. most are hispani ravers (going back
> > to the mafia ravers...)
> >

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hey
*hugs* to all you glitter guys out there!
glitter is thee best...
tis magic faerie dust.
keep it up!
those who associate that with being gay should take a course in creative
expression and examine their OWN outlook on THEMSELVES if they care so
much about some guy wearing glitter.
it's cool.
so there.
peace

sara:*
thee glitter goddess

CyberToast

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True that$@%#@%^ Glitter is for females.... And it looks quite nice on them I must
say =) Guys wearing glitter (in my mind) are most likely gay.. thats just my $0.02
tho..
pe@ce

-Ryan

Bijan

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In article <368F490C...@home.com>, bre...@home.com wrote:
>I live around L.A. to. I've worn glitter on a whim and I'm not gay.
>Althogh I was going to put some on a few weeks ago and my girlfriend
>told me not to - she's wierd like that. Exactly where around L.A. do you
>live? I'm in Mission Viejo. (South Orange County)

I live around Santa Monica near Pacific Palisades, but I'm known to travel far
and wide if I hear of a really good rave =)...

-Bijan

THE ONE

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In <76n8nk$t1a$2...@camel29.mindspring.com> bi...@NOSPAM.com (Bijan)
writes:
>
>tib...@home.com wrote:
>>LOL...mafia type??
>
>Yeah! I can't beleive you haven't seen them! They're dressed in big
suits,
>complete with dress shoes and ties, and big 'ol trench coats! There
was a grip
>at the New Yars one I went to...
>

These tyeps would be part of the "guido" stereotype that candy ravers
have for Latin/Italian club types who dont dress the rave part. There
are not as numerous at most raves since they usually are more into
chicks than raving so they get turned off to raves very easily. Those
that do get into raving then start dressing down since it gets pretty
damn hot dancing for hours in a suit. I should know since I'm a guido.
I wasnt aware however that guidos were showing up in great numbers to
some rave events. Wow! Would you say that these particular raves are
a little more sexual than the asexual atmosphere that rave events
usually have (girls in baggy pants, underaged GIRLS running around, sex
drive killer ecstacy abound, trance msuic with no physical sexual
overtones). Now you got me curious.

Or maybe people were dressed up when they normally wouldve have been
beacuse it was New Years Eve.

Jay

Bijan

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ja...@ix.netcom.com(THE ONE) wrote:

>Or maybe people were dressed up when they normally wouldve have been
>beacuse it was New Years Eve.

Nope, there are tons (at least to (practically) all the raves I've been too).
It's true, I don't think thy're interested in the rave itself...more like the
hoochie's there =)....The last one I was to (that wasn't raided =\) was in
very late December. It was FREEZING - yet almost 90% of the girls were wearing
skirts so short, they didn't even have to bend over till you could see their
panties, and there must have been at least 3lbs of flesh per person hanging
out of their shirt!

.oOo.groovinkim.oOo.

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when i go to a party, i don't care if the person next
to me is wearing glitter, an afro, tight pants, big pants,
no pants, a dress, body paint, suits and ties, khaki pants,
a uniform, whatever. i don't care if they are gay, straight,
bi, transsexual, hemaphrodite. i don't care if they are
young, old, black, white, hispanic, native american, asian,
etc.

anyone who gives a shit about things like that needs
to open their ears and listen to the *music*. that is what
brings us together. it is not a fashion show. it is not a
status contest. it is not a place to be judging others on
superficial things that have no bearing on who they are
as a person.

dance, dammit.

:)

kim

"you see, we didn't care about the social scene. it
didn't matter what you were wearing or who you were
friends with or what you knew or what you didn't know.
i don't really understand what's going on now, but in
those days, we used to dance." - dubtribe

p.s. glitter doesn't have anything to do with your
sexual preference. whoever said that has got
some mental hang-ups and probably some sexuality
issues of their own.

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> GLITTER IS DA BESTEST!! ::huggles da glitter boiz::
>
> **Nikki**

/me breaks out all his glitter just so he can get a _HUGE_ _HUG_ from
nikki ... see yah on the NE scene someday ...
-Cloud

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<snip crap about rave attire and hoohcies and their flesh and all that garbage>

umm...to each his/her own. i'm sure they're saying some pretty mean stuff
about you too.

Rissablk

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TRUE DAT!::rounds of applause!::

tib...@home.com

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LOL..."Guido" type.......hehehehehehe, that's a funny term to use...I
used to date a real "Guido" actually from Italy when I lived in Atlanta,
he was a trip and horny as fuck.

> Or maybe people were dressed up when they normally wouldve have been
> beacuse it was New Years Eve.
>

> Jay

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riss...@aol.com (Rissablk) wrote:
> TRUE DAT!::rounds of applause!::
>
Agreed! :)
In fact, I think I'll wear glitter to the next rave I go to, just 'cos of this
thread :)

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Maelstrome

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another stereotypical homophob on the loose...


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Maelstrome

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oh come on babe ya know you want my nice large cock in that juicy mouth of
yours...

^SoJu^ <ta...@bconnex.net> wrote in message news:76pkm7$f6u$1...@remarQ.com...
>
>all of u are gay. go to hell drug freaks.
>
>

NfltblGdss

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>all of u are gay. go to hell drug freaks.

yeah yer momma!

Rissablk

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You know what I think? I think we should find SoJu, strap him/her down to a
vibrating table and force some E into his/her system and see what happens.. =D

~Shellz~

Daniel.

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The biological entity known as riss...@aol.com (Rissablk)
communicated via alt.rave that...:

>You know what I think? I think we should find SoJu, strap him/her down to a
>vibrating table and force some E into his/her system and see what happens.. =D

surely we should keep the E for someone who'd appreciate it... and
find something else to force into li'l' SoJu :-)

Daniel


DjSuave

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Well hey I sport glitter in my hair and nail polish too thick ass
Chucks and lip stick and I shadow . And if some one calls me fagot
fuck it I show`um my duck and say suck it . =]

Then my grrl will get mad at me
and I`ll give her a bean to calm down
lifes short you either get fucked or ya get fucked
either way be safe
plur
Rico


PS thats was on Christmas night that i was funked out.
at the paradome .

PSS i know that some of this is like whatever
just felt like typing =]

DjSuave

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yes i do


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:00:58 GMT, bi...@NOSPAM.com (Bijan) wrote:

>hey all,
> i was just wondering. how many guys out here use glitter (when raving?).
>whenever i do, the first reaction i get is, "are you gay?"...this coming from
>fellow ravers! anyone else get this?? most ravers out here are the
>mafia-looking type instead of candy ravers, etc. then again, i live out in
>southern cal (right around los angeles)
>
>-bijan
>

CyberToast

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PARDON ME? My comment might have been slightly stereotypical I am not denying
that. But, am I not entitled to my opinion? It seems to me like many people
agreed that one could assume a guy wearing glitter to be gay/bi.. And if you
read my post I said "most likely" This means that they don't HAVE to be gay/bi
just because they were wearing glitter! You don't need to lash out at me
because of the nature of Anthrow's post.. And I resent being called a
homophob.. I would like to think of myself as a pretty open-minded
individual.. Personally, I could give two shits if you want to wear glitter or
about you sexuality.. To each his own.. You just came off to me like a real
jerk!
pe@ce

-Ryan

Maelstrome

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I come off that way to all people that present themselves as close minded
individuals... because by that statement it shows that you have a
narrowminded way of thinking... never assume anything because what are the
first 3 letters of assume? yes my good boy ASS that's what you make of
yourself...


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CyberToast

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There is nothing wrong with assupmtion.. as long as you don't offend someone due
to something you assume. If I was bi/gay would it be wrong of me to assume that
someone else was bi/gay? It doesn't hurt to assume.. Just because you hold an
opinion (assumption.. I might even say guess) Doesn't mean you are an ASS! You
would be an ass not to assume things.. As a matter of fact, without assumption
I think I would get myself into some sticky situations.. And IF I assumed
someone wearing glitter to be bi/gay would it be a bad thing? It COULD be a bad
thing if I used that assumption in the wrong way.. Other than that it makes no
difference.. I wouldn't treat you differently if you were straight/bi/gay or
otherwise.. And I still think that glitter is for females.. but I wouldn't care
if I saw a male wearing it.. I just choose not to wear it myself.. But here is
one assumption for you.. I assume that you are a real asshole!
pe@ce

-Ryan

-Wilykat-

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