NAS Escobar Movin' On Your Weak Production
Shavar Dakel Jeffries
artform. He's like
Moses. He's delivered the hip-hop game to the Promised Land. A land
filled with milk like Biggie and Buckshot, and honey like Mic Geronimo
and Mobb Deep.
There is no doubt, no question, Nas is the greatest rapper of all-time,
probably the greatest there ever will be. Like all three Michaels
(Jordan, Tyson, and Jackson) rolled into one.
Can anyone come up with some flow like this:
"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
Leaves my body now freshin'
My physical frame is celebrated, cuz I made it
One quarter through life some Godly light then created
Got rhymz 365 days, annual, plus some
Load up the mic and bust one,
Cuss where I puss from; my skull
cuz its pain, in my brain vein
Money maintain, don't go against the grain, simple and plain."
Butter.
frederick gordon brandyburg
Shu,
I bet you were listening to that piece while were you posting that article :>
Nas's verse is phat in "Your beef is Mine" but in comparison to some of the
shit on his album, its just average in my opinion. No doubt it was butter, as
all his shit is, but to me it wasn't mind blowin like...........Q-Tip's shit !
He came off rhyming about all those clothing designers running a caper. That
shit was unreal.
- lil' G -
aaron stigberg
Shavar Dakel Jeffries <sd...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>Pumpin corruption....Nas is the greatest rapper in the history of the
>artform. He's like
>Moses. He's delivered the hip-hop game to the Promised Land. A land
>filled with milk like Biggie and Buckshot, and honey like Mic Geronimo
>and Mobb Deep.
>
>There is no doubt, no question, Nas is the greatest rapper of all-time,
>probably the greatest there ever will be. Like all three Michaels
>(Jordan, Tyson, and Jackson) rolled into one.
>
>Can anyone come up with some flow like this:
>
>"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
>It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
I'm not going to argue with you about his dopeness, but since when was 20
years old being an adolescent? I thought adolescence ended at like 17 for
most people.
>Leaves my body now freshin'
>My physical frame is celebrated, cuz I made it
>One quarter through life some Godly light then created
>Got rhymz 365 days, annual, plus some
>Load up the mic and bust one,
>Cuss where I puss from; my skull
>cuz its pain, in my brain vein
>Money maintain, don't go against the grain, simple and plain."
>
--
. . . 'Lo Lifes and Decepticons rolling through the night . . .
Aaron
st...@midway.uchicago.edu
Shavar Dakel Jeffries
> Date: 2 MAY 1995 16:59:59 GMT
> From: frederick gordon brandyburg <f...@wildflower.dorm.duke.edu>
> Newgroups: rec.music.hip-hop, alt.rap
> Subject: Re: NAS Escobar Movin' On Your Weak Production
I gotta agree with you, Gordy. Nas didn't represent like he really can,
but even at 70%, his flow is still the butter.
Easy.
Shavar Dakel Jeffries
> Date: Tue, 2 MAY 1995 16:53:05 GMT
> From: aaron stigberg <st...@ellis.uchicago.edu>
> Newgroups: rec.music.hip-hop, alt.rap
> Subject: Re: NAS Escobar Movin' On Your Weak Production
>
See, Nas is so nice that people misperceive his flow. He didn't say he
was tenty and now an adolescent; he said the "essence of adolescence
LEAVES" his body, now at twenty, refreshed. Butter.
Easy
David Chung
>>"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
>>It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
>
>I'm not going to argue with you about his dopeness, but since when was 20
>years old being an adolescent? I thought adolescence ended at like 17 for
>most people.
He says that "the essence of adolesence" left his body...in other
words he's now twenty and more mature.
-DC
Antonio Fortin
: In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950502...@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>,
: Shavar Dakel Jeffries <sd...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
: >Pumpin corruption....Nas is the greatest rapper in the history of the
: >artform. He's like
: >Moses. He's delivered the hip-hop game to the Promised Land. A land
: >filled with milk like Biggie and Buckshot, and honey like Mic Geronimo
: >and Mobb Deep.
: >
: >There is no doubt, no question, Nas is the greatest rapper of all-time,
: >probably the greatest there ever will be. Like all three Michaels
: >(Jordan, Tyson, and Jackson) rolled into one.
: >
: >Can anyone come up with some flow like this:
: >"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
: >It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
: I'm not going to argue with you about his dopeness, but since when was 20
: years old being an adolescent? I thought adolescence ended at like 17 for
: most people.
: >Leaves my body now freshin'
GONZO
<Pine.SOL.3.91.950502...@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>,
sd...@acpub.duke.edu says...
>
>Pumpin corruption....Nas is the greatest rapper in the history of the
>artform. He's like
>Moses. He's delivered the hip-hop game to the Promised Land. A land
>filled with milk like Biggie and Buckshot, and honey like Mic Geronimo
>and Mobb Deep.
>
>There is no doubt, no question, Nas is the greatest rapper of all-time,
>probably the greatest there ever will be. Like all three Michaels
>(Jordan, Tyson, and Jackson) rolled into one.
>
>Can anyone come up with some flow like this:
>
>"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
>It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
>My physical frame is celebrated, cuz I made it
>One quarter through life some Godly light then created
>Got rhymz 365 days, annual, plus some
>Load up the mic and bust one,
>Cuss where I puss from; my skull
>cuz its pain, in my brain vein
>Money maintain, don't go against the grain, simple and plain."
>
>
No question, I must agree that flow is butter baby, but I don't know
about him being the best ever. You gotta specify what you considering
when you say shit like that. Are you saying that he's the best ever
based on just that one flow? Of course not, you saying that because you
have his album and have been exposed to another level of hip hop. It's
cool that you think he's the best ever, but next time just say why.
PEACE.
GONZO
larry myrick
>In article <D7yMw...@midway.uchicago.edu>, st...@ellis.uchicago.edu (aaron stigberg) says:
>>>"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
>>>It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
Leaves my body, now fresh and
My physical frame is celebrated cause i made it..."
>>
>>I'm not going to argue with you about his dopeness, but since when was 20
>>years old being an adolescent? I thought adolescence ended at like 17 for
>>most people.
>He says that "the essence of adolesence" left his body...in other
Shavar Dakel Jeffries
> Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 11:28:27 -0700
> From: GONZO <insc...@rohan.sdsu.edu>
> To: sd...@acpub.duke.edu
> Newgroups: rec.music.hip-hop, alt.rap
> Subject: Re: NAS Escobar Movin' On Your Weak Production
>
> In article
> <Pine.SOL.3.91.950502...@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>,
> sd...@acpub.duke.edu says...
> >
> >Pumpin corruption....Nas is the greatest rapper in the history of the
> >artform. He's like
> >Moses. He's delivered the hip-hop game to the Promised Land. A land
> >filled with milk like Biggie and Buckshot, and honey like Mic Geronimo
> >and Mobb Deep.
> >
> >There is no doubt, no question, Nas is the greatest rapper of all-time,
> >probably the greatest there ever will be. Like all three Michaels > >(Jordan, Tyson, and Jackson) rolled into one.
> >
> >Can anyone come up with some flow like this:
> >
> >"I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
> >It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
> >Leaves my body now freshin'
> >My physical frame is celebrated, cuz I made it
> >One quarter through life some Godly light then created
> >Got rhymz 365 days, annual, plus some
> >Load up the mic and bust one,
> >Cuss where I puss from; my skull
> >cuz its pain, in my brain vein
> >Money maintain, don't go against the grain, simple and plain."
> >
> >Butter.
> >
> No question, I must agree that flow is butter baby, but I don't know
> about him being the best ever. You gotta specify what you considering
> when you say shit like that. Are you saying that he's the best ever
> based on just that one flow? Of course not, you saying that because you
> have his album and have been exposed to another level of hip hop. It's
> cool that you think he's the best ever, but next time just say why.
> PEACE.
> GONZO
>
I'm saying that everything that Nas has been on has been butter; most
especially "Live at the BBQ," "Life's A Bitch," and "The World is Yours"
remix. Nas is the Godfather; his lyrical genius is unparalleled.
Pernell Scott Brice
who do you think is the best rapper?
Simon Bacsich
probably the greatest there ever will be".
>
>
> "I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty,
> It's a blessin', the essence of adolescence
> Leaves my body now freshin'
> My physical frame is celebrated, cuz I made it
> One quarter through life some Godly light then created
> Got rhymz 365 days, annual, plus some
> Load up the mic and bust one,
> Cuss where I puss from; my skull
> cuz its pain, in my brain vein
> Money maintain, don't go against the grain, simple and plain."
Presumption from the cove like Shavar . . .
Undoubtedly there could be far greater rappers than Nas - what about if a
street rapper with the equivalent lyrical skills of Bob Dylan stepped up
to the mike one day? He woud be an irresistible hip-hop force for those
that would dare listen.
The rhymes that so-called poetically minded rappers write today are
nothing godly. They contain too many platitudes and feeble metaphors; they
are always devalued by banal anachronisms like 'Got rhymz 365 days a
year'(how many times has this been said?) and an obsession with lame
similes [like this, like that and so on]. A lot of people seem to have
appreciation for the poetic side of hip-hop (and it should be said that
MCs like Nas and Jeru do respectably on this front). But a new way forward
is for the old and rotting floorboards to be ripped up, and for the true
hip-hop poets to come forth; rappers need to move on, and become true
microphone laureates not half-cut rhymers. I am reminded of the words of
Grand Puba. 'Move on black man move on'. Well, I am thinking to myself,
Move on rap man move on, move on rap man move on...".
Peace
Simon B (reactionary but revolutionary, thoughts are many and spirit is merry)
Shavar Dakel Jeffries
> Date: 5 MAY 1995 13:10:37 GMT
> From: Simon Bacsich <s.j.b...@open.ac.uk>
> Newgroups: rec.music.hip-hop, alt.rap
> Subject: Re: NAS Escobar Movin' On Your Weak Production
>
Buy a clue, kid.
TERRENCE ADAMS
>Presumption from the cove like Shavar . . .
>
>Undoubtedly there could be far greater rappers than Nas - what about if a
>street rapper with the equivalent lyrical skills of Bob Dylan stepped up
>to the mike one day? He woud be an irresistible hip-hop force for those
>that would dare listen.
bob who? I can't imagine a better poet than nas, but i know there has
to be one out there. but rap is far more than poetry. Good poetry is
like ursula rucker of the roots. She is not an MC, but her poetry is
quite moving. I find most of the MC's that i like have great lyrics,
but when you put them down on paper, the poetry is missing. When the
source had craig mack's flava in ya ear as the verse of the month,
i couldn't figure out why that got verse of the month. Then i heard
the song. His delivery made those lyrics make sense. Basically a poet
will be different than an mc. Lyrics, no matter how good, do not have
the same impact unless they are delivered.
>The rhymes that so-called poetically minded rappers write today are
>nothing godly. They contain too many platitudes and feeble metaphors; they
>are always devalued by banal anachronisms like 'Got rhymz 365 days a
>year'(how many times has this been said?) and an obsession with lame
>similes [like this, like that and so on].
I can't remember a time when similies, metaphors and allusions were not
apart of hip hop. The so called great poets of any nation usually rely
heavily on these devices. But there are still lots of instances of
onomatpoeia, assonance, consonance, slant rhyme, and the other elements
of poetry that make up hip hop. these are usually harder to point out.
take boots from the coup and his use of imagism in fat cats bigga fish
the street lights reflect off the piss on the ground
which reflects off the hamburger sign turning round
which reflects off the chrome of the BMW
which reflects off the fact that i'm broke
so what the fuck is new
A lot of people seem to have
>appreciation for the poetic side of hip-hop (and it should be said that
>MCs like Nas and Jeru do respectably on this front). But a new way forward
>is for the old and rotting floorboards to be ripped up, and for the true
>hip-hop poets to come forth; rappers need to move on, and become true
>microphone laureates not half-cut rhymers. I am reminded of the words of
>Grand Puba. 'Move on black man move on'. Well, I am thinking to myself,
>Move on rap man move on, move on rap man move on...".
>
>
>Peace
>
>Simon B (reactionary but revolutionary, thoughts are many and spirit is merry)
i understand where you are going, but poetry in it's written sense won't
won't be present in delivered hip hop lyrics. I've heard Common
recite some poetry on the level of ursula rucker, but the emotion
and the movement of the poetry can never be done justice on the mic.
the two should remain different and distinct
kari orr
lyrical gun with an itchy rhyme finger - nastee of trendz