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Choco Bliss

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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I saw the kid Chino on rap city a while back. I don't really get off on
alternative rap but he had some crazy lyrics. his style is like Ras Kaas
on speed. I saw him on VIBE too. I just wanted to know what the group
thought of him. haven't heard much from peeps about him.

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Loklass

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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In article <01bb3562.11fed0c0$b621...@choco.vt.edu>, Choco Bliss
<ch...@vt.edu> writes:

>I saw the kid Chino on rap city a while back. I don't really get off on
>alternative rap but he had some crazy lyrics. his style is like Ras Kaas
>on speed. I saw him on VIBE too. I just wanted to know what the group
>thought of him. haven't heard much from peeps about him.

What are you talking about, "alternative rap"?!? In no way, shape or form
is Chino XL "alternative rap". His music is straight up, raw hip hop in
the purest form. What makes you think he is "alternative"? Because he
doesn't talk about bustin' caps, drinkin' 40's and shit like that?

Anyway, you want an opinion on him? I like Chino XL a lot. I've been a fan
of his ever since I heard him in the group, Art of Origin, not too long
ago when someone put me in tune to their joints. I was also able to peep
the LP before it was released. His lyrics are exceptionally tight and the
beats on the album are definitely nice. You won't find any recycled
samples or rhymes on that joint. As far as Chino being "the king of
metaphors", I would have to disagree somewhat. True, he's about the only
one out now that is almost completely on the simile/metaphor tip that
takes out the others (i.e. Mad Skillz, Lord Finesse, Big L, etc.), but he
pushes it too far. The use of the words "like", "as", "more", and "than"
in his rhymes are way over their quota. If you want to do METAPHORS and
not SIMILES and be on that tip, you can almost completely eliminate "like"
or "as" if you have the writing skill. I just get tired of hearing the
words, especially from a lot of mediocre MC's that are out there now who
think they're coming off clever - whatever.

So, if you're a fan of true hip hop, you shouldn't be disappointed with
Chino XL's "Here to Save You All" LP. But, please, don't throw Chino in
the "alternative rap" category.

Peace

Loklass
El Papichulo Cubano

Ra6668

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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I understand what Choco was trying to say about Chino being alternative
rap. Just look at the No Complex video. I think however once you listen
to the rest of the tape you understand that Chino represents hiphop to the
fullest with the exception of that song I also thought that Shabba Doo
Conspiracy can in a way be considered alternative rap.

Tewbular

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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>>if you're a fan of true hip hop<<

u suck for saying "true hip hop"
never post again

Tewbular

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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>>I don't really get off on
alternative rap but he had some crazy lyrics<<

u suck for saying "alternative rap"..
never post again

Loklass

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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In article <4m3hmo$s...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ra6...@aol.com (Ra6668)
writes:

What is so "alternative" about the "No Complex" video? I can't count all
the videos I've seen with the same theme. Chino plays the part of the
chump with 'a complex' getting played because he thinks he's the man. How
many videos have that plot? In the other scenes, it's dark and Chino is
just flippin' his hands and mean mugging while flowing. It's the same
thing D.O.C. did in his video for "Return of the Living Dead" with all the
darkness and motions, so are you going to call that "alternative"?

I don't know. I just don't see how you people can label hip hop music like
that. I can see where it may be labeled by a cut's topic (i.e. gangsta,
political, braggadocio), but will someone please explain to me what
alternative rap is. "The Shabba-Doo Conspiracy" - an alternative rap
song?!?

Choco Bliss

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May 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/1/96
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straight up, that's how Chino came off at first to me. but if you read
my original post, i gave Chino his props. actually, I'm listening to him
now. did anyone see the interview on Rap City? he himself admitted not
that he creates "alternative rap" but his rock record label gives him that
image.
out.


PhatMan

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May 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/4/96
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Chino is phat. Word to death, Chino rocks the mic righteously enough to be "Here to save you all." He
kinda reminds me of Smoothe Da Hustler to be honest. They both have raw styles, but CHino is more
lyrically potent, Smoothe is just more serious and a "reality rapper." One great thing about Chino is the
fact that he didn't wait until later to tell everyone who he doesn't like.

Peace
PhatMan


SDogg506

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May 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/5/96
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Chino XL is definitely a breath of fresh air from the lyrical standpoint.
Also the album's production has a definite flava of its own. However, he
does tend to say Like and As too much. But, that seems to be his style.
And his similes are quite dope and original:"I'm so def I need closed
captions..."

David White

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May 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/10/96
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bl...@primenet.com (Tyler Blohm) wrote:

>sdog...@aol.com (SDogg506) wrote:

>Yeah...he's aiight but like you said he uses too many metaphors and
>similes. The ones he does use are top notch, tho...

You can never use too many metaphors.


G. Smith

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May 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/14/96
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Yo..I thought the shit was alright, I mean it kept me listenin' to catch all
the metaphors but I would just like to know one thing.....Why is he so
hostile?? I know he's upset about being half black half white and shit but
yo it seems like he hates everybody.....


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De Balzak

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May 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/18/96
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I give him much respect. I'll usually fast forward through YO (because it
all sounds the same), but when I see his video, I always watch. I love how
he disses so many people.

Peace, represent the real hip-hop

Desmond Ansell Thomas

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May 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/20/96
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True!!! Chino's vidoes single, "Complex" was alldat I thought. is his
whole shit phat? He seems kind of weird though. Not, black, not
spanish, not chinese? What the fuck is he with his long ass braids? His
flow is tight however and this is all that really matters for all yall
racial thinkers that want to target racism. What's the final word on
Chino's album? Oh yeah, and the name Chino XL is mad corny, I knid of
judge him by it and labeled his ass corny, but then I started hearing the
lyrics to complex and thought it was phat. Now I guess I have to give
him a chance. What do yall think about his shit? Peace,
Dez

Loklass

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May 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/21/96
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In article
<Pine.SOL.3.91.96052...@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu>,

Desmond Ansell Thomas <da...@acpub.duke.edu> writes:

>He seems kind of weird though. Not, black, not
>spanish, not chinese? What the fuck is he with his long ass braids? His

>flow is tight however and this is all that really matters for all yall
>racial thinkers that want to target racism.

Chino is half Black, half Puerto Rican. Does it really matter what he
looks like?

PhatMan

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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>>He seems kind of weird though. Not, black, not
>>spanish, not chinese? What the fuck is he with his long ass braids? His
>
>>flow is tight however and this is all that really matters for all yall
>>racial thinkers that want to target racism.
>
>Chino is half Black, half Puerto Rican. Does it really matter what he
>looks like?
>
>Peace
>
>Loklass
>El Papichulo Cubano

Loklass:

Actually it does to most kids...I myself sometimes catch myself calling kids goofy white kids, and then
realize that my moms is white and my dad is black...So when Chino did that song "Who am I" I was
touched for real. I could relate, to say the fucking least. I've heard all that shit...

But the real thing remains, we really need to be honest with ourselves. When we see a white kid trying
to get up and rip a mic, he has to be at least 10 times better than just a regular minority kid. But then
again...The world isn't perfect...Bring back the Crews, breaking, and the original b-bwoys!

PhatMan
http://www.jaxnet.com/~damon


Loklass

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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In article <4ocm1l$l...@jaxnet.jaxnet.com>, da...@jax.jaxnet.com (PhatMan)
writes:

>But the real thing remains, we really need to be honest with ourselves.
>When we see a white kid trying to get up and rip a mic, he has to be at
least
>10 times better than just a regular minority kid. But then again...The
world
>isn't perfect...Bring back the Crews, breaking, and the original b-bwoys!

Actually, I don't judge white kids like that. If a white kid starts
flowing, I'm going to close my eyes and hear what he has to say and judge
him strictly on skills. It's going to be the same way with any MC,
regardless of ethnicity. We've got to realize that we LISTEN to hip hop
music the majority of the time (the other half would be videos and shows).
Maybe it's true that a white kid should have to pay extra dues to enter
the game, but what about the other opressed minorities besides Blacks and
Latinos that didn't take part in the roots of hip hop, i.e. Asians and
Indians? I think that's something to think about if you want to get
technical.

One Name Like Prince Productionz

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Shit, momz wasn't white, but she might as well had been. I phukkin
grew up with Chino, we both went to skool in Montclair, N.J., and
both of us used to rock with Kaoz, his boy from Art of Origin (who
was a phukkin genius), but not at the same time...I must've been
rockin with Scratchmaster K, his name before Kaoz, from like 85-87,
we were both DJz, now I rip mikes and do beats...but goin to skool
in Montclair was phukked up. Sistaz wanted mofoz who looked like
Chino. I remember that nigga being a pretty boy mofo who all the
girlz thought was so cute BE-cause of his light skin and straight
hair. Plus he was a popper back then, tho he later rocked the
mike. I was like mad confused when I heard "Who/What am I?" I was
like fool, YOU had all the P...I guess that brother had it ruffer
than I knew...Anyway, I had the same shit that I'm sure plenty
brotherz can relate to. You one of a few brotherz in a skool full
of mad white folks. Social life sucks...Whites always was aking
you to break for'em, most white chicks won't given it up to you
cause they thought they would turn black or something, only a
couple a sistaz, and they ain't the finest things on earth, the
fine ones know they fine and either got a man, or is playin the
brothaz against each other...(shit three years ago I wrote this
joint called "OREO" when every body was claimin they was down with
Dancehall/reggae, when them same foolz was dissin the Haitians back
in the early Eighties...a lil PE in'em and foolz was speakin patoi
and the whole nine...I remember one of my homies took me home with
him to Jersey and started speakin in this accent to his grand ma, I
was in shock, homie was Trini like a mofo...i knew the fool for
four years, all I ever heard out of him was Ghetto slang, all of a
sudden he was back in the ol' country. That shit was poppin off
all across the nation thanx to Shabba and the like)...Anyway, I
know some of y'all broz know what I'm sayin, so that Chino shit is
quite common, but nobody talk about it...So I ended up dating this
Italian chick, cause she was fine...I had to tell my moms, "Yo, I
ain't dating no chick just cause she black, she betta be fine too!"
I guess the spotz I was in, you got a million white chicks and
three sistaz, I'ma end up with a white chick...but phuk, I like'em
all. You could be purple, if you fine and I'm single I'ma be like
Guy talkin bout "I wanna git wit UUUUUU!" So anyway, just to piss
mofoz off I named my band The Devilz Advokitt for a myriad of
reasons. Like Chino I grew up listening to rock with them
whiteboyz, and I was really into Iron Maiden, YES, Zep, The Doors,
whoever had some evil, dark sounding creepy shit...like that "Play
This Only At Night," from Doug E. Fresh, that was the type of
hip-hop I wanted to make. Apparently, AOO had the same influences,
Kaoz had beats from far away, his uncle was a DJ and had a wall
covered w/crates. We had 45s taped to 12", all the old breaks with
the octopus on'em, all types of shit, we used to make beats on my
synsonics, K had a casio and a Commodore computer, he used to play
that shit by ear and he was awwwesssomme on it. I remember one
time he played some shit that Chino had did, it turned out homes
was playing the theme to Halloween by ear to a drum trak...oh, shit
was real, it was insane....anyway, now that every body is using up
my vibes and acid sounds I'ma go in another direction and do some
crazy shit foolz ain't never heard before, I might also phukk with
some obscure classical, I got these 78s I'ma about to dust
off...Peace, and peep the realness from Tha'Truf Tella...
THE TE...@gnn.com


kt...@silver.sdsmt.edu

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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In article <4ogo8n$8...@news-e2b.gnn.com> One Name Like Prince Productionz <TheT...@gnn.com> writes:
>From: One Name Like Prince Productionz <TheT...@gnn.com>
>Subject: Re: Chino
>Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 01:52:16


Similar shit here, as far as environments, growing up and the type of shit you
wanna do now.

"It's all pink in the middle, and if it ain't don't touch it." -Ahmad Ford

Maybe when I get shit situated, we could hook up on some shit...
-T'Da

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