ICE-T vs Cool J
Masud Khan
This feud has been goin' on for quite a while and there is always
an ICE-T track dissin' Cool J and vice versa.
I never did find out why all of this started. Funny thing is ICE-T is
down with PE and so is Cool J so what's the deal?
Any 411 will be appreciated.
Peace,
Mas
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Robert Krajewski
What's the 411 on ICE-T dissin' Cool J and Cool J Dissin' ICE-T?
This feud has been goin' on for quite a while and there is always
an ICE-T track dissin' Cool J and vice versa.
Didn't LL dis Ice-T for being a petty hood ?
But I think that's all over with, according to Ice-T on the "Ricochet"
single.
Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette
>This feud has been goin' on for quite a while and there is always
>an ICE-T track dissin' Cool J and vice versa.
It just me or is just everybody except PE dissin Uncle L these days, can't
forget about the long standing Kool Moe Dee / LL feud
>I never did find out why all of this started. Funny thing is ICE-T is
>down with PE and so is Cool J so what's the deal?
Just cause you're down with someone and they in turn are down with someone
else doesn't mean the two of you are necessarily down. I mean look at who
Ice T lists on MVP's Cube and Da Lench Mob and NWA both, Griff and PE and
lots of others that aren't on the best terms with one another.
But back to the LL feud, one reason so many rappers are against LL is that
he tries to come off hard but if you look at his upbringing compared to
other rappers he had it rather easy. Even 'In Living Color' did a skit on
LL Cool J making fun of his boasting and trying to act hard.
-Lee
The black guy.
except that he brags about himself an awful lot. like Ra said,
"It ain't where ya from, it's where ya at".
(from you know what, a cut from one of the best debut albums ever)
>
> -Lee
the hood of good
The black guy.
>In article <1992Nov24.1...@Cadence.COM> m...@Cadence.COM (Masud Khan) writes:
>
> What's the 411 on ICE-T dissin' Cool J and Cool J Dissin' ICE-T?
> This feud has been goin' on for quite a while and there is always
> an ICE-T track dissin' Cool J and vice versa.
>
>Didn't LL dis Ice-T for being a petty hood ?
marley marl mix). also dissed mo dee & hammer, for no apparent reason
on the hammer stuff, except for everyone's got a beef against my man.
(what do you want from him? he never asked to be the dopest m.c. james
brown can't sing, but he could get a party jumpin' like hammer does. he
also definitely gives back 2 the community.)
>
>But I think that's all over with, according to Ice-T on the "Ricochet"
>single.
played out, & rappers need 2 be concentratin' on their skilz & teachin'
and music makin'. (ATCQ never disses, & they're the best out right now,
handz down, IMHO. (all right, SFC getz props))
jon, the anointed nubian
Robert Krajewski
>I never did find out why all of this started. Funny thing is ICE-T is
>down with PE and so is Cool J so what's the deal?
Just cause you're down with someone and they in turn are down with someone
else doesn't mean the two of you are necessarily down. I mean look at who
Ice T lists on MVP's Cube and Da Lench Mob and NWA both, Griff and PE and
lots of others that aren't on the best terms with one another.
Exactly. "Down"ness is not transitive.
But back to the LL feud, one reason so many rappers are against LL is that
he tries to come off hard but if you look at his upbringing compared to
other rappers he had it rather easy.
In rock & roll, there have been a lot of people with born with silver
spoons in their mouths that like to project a "bad" image -- the
Rolling Stones, for example. The Beatles and Squeeze are very working
class, but they came off as nice boys. In the Clash, Joe Strummer, son
of an ambassador, tried to come off as some kind of revolutionary,
while his working-class partner Mick Jones wanted to be a rock & roll
hero and pop songwriter.
While Strong Island isn't Beverly Hills, it's not a war-zone either.
And yet from it we get the political PE and lots of braggadocio from
Eric B. & Rakim, EPMD, &c. In fact, if you're a confident surburban
kid, that might just feed your ego. And as far as being "hard" goes --
not all of it, but a lot is just more material for one-upmanship. If
you're lucky, you'll see a lot more nastiness on TV and movies than
you'll ever experience in reality. And if that's not the case, you'll
mostly likely end up in jail, or dead. And those aren't exactly good
career moves.
Paul Harvey
>yeah, i hope this dissin' on records stops anyway. it's definitely
>played out, & rappers need 2 be concentratin' on their skilz & teachin'
>and music makin'. (ATCQ never disses, & they're the best out right now,
>handz down, IMHO. (all right, SFC getz props))
>jon, the anointed nubian
Check the Rhyme: (Qtip)
Proper, whatcha say Hammer?
Rap ain't pop, if you call it that then STOP!
Who cares about dissing anyway. It's just an extension of the dozens. It
comes with the territory.
Oops, my mistake I didn't know you went wit her, should I run down the
line of all the kids that done hit her? (Phife)
No time to pick it with showing the four leaf clover, strictly
underground funk keep the crossover. (EPMD)
The black guy.
>In article <By90x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
>sl31...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.) writes:
>>yeah, i hope this dissin' on records stops anyway. it's definitely
>>played out, & rappers need 2 be concentratin' on their skilz & teachin'
>>and music makin'. (ATCQ never disses, & they're the best out right now,
>>handz down, IMHO. (all right, SFC getz props))
>>jon, the anointed nubian
>
>Check the Rhyme: (Qtip)
>Proper, whatcha say Hammer?
>Rap ain't pop, if you call it that then STOP!
remember hammer callin rap pop before (although i ain't heard much since
his first album)
>
>Who cares about dissing anyway. It's just an extension of the dozens. It
>comes with the territory.
but then again, i thought... "but when they did dis, they were right on
stage with each other." i just don't like the idea of tryin' to put out
a record just to dis someone, or just try to take a shot at someone
without them bein there to say somethin back. (A la old school, live stylee)
>Oops, my mistake I didn't know you went wit her, should I run down the
>line of all the kids that done hit her? (Phife)
>
>No time to pick it with showing the four leaf clover, strictly
>underground funk keep the crossover. (EPMD)
Fedde Engler
The thing between Ice-T and LL was nothing, IMO, compared to the thing LL
and Moe Dee had a time. Single after single that came out was an answer to
something they had said before. THAT was fun :) More battles! :)
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Fedde (fe...@bern.docs.uu.se)
David Sumpter
>
> In rock & roll, there have been a lot of people with born with silver
> spoons in their mouths that like to project a "bad" image -- the
> Rolling Stones, for example. The Beatles and Squeeze are very working
> class
The Beatles lived in a suburbain middle class area of Liverpool. I have seen
John Lennon's first house and I don't think he was exactly poor.
Just thought I'd say.
jdv...@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
idea from Michael Jackson. When Mike was working on the title track Bad, he
worked with several rappers (including Run-D.M.C) on versions of the song.
This was no real secret, so when LL came out a couple of months before Jackson
with an album titled Bad, LL was labeled not just a sell-out as before, but as
a rip-off artist too.
jdv
The black guy.
the name of that album.
>
>jdv
a.n.
Fedde Engler
The name of the album is _Bigger and Deffer_, but most album covers I saw over
here, had a red label on top saying "Including I'm BAD" with letters bigger
than those in the name of the album. As "I'm BAD" also is one of the dopest
tracks in that album, it doesn't surprise me that some people by misstake
would call the album "I'm BAD". That is if the albums over there also had this
confusing label :)
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Fedde (fe...@bern.docs.uu.se)
The black guy.
corner BAD...for a while, this is what i thought the album was called
until i looked at the back cover (I assume it's the back, it's where the
songs are listed) and it has "Bigger and Deffer" running in a banner
near the bottom of the cover (over top two pictures of L boxing or some
stuff like that). I'm thinkin' maybe he should have done B.A.D.
instead. hey, after a while, i started likin' "Go Cut Creator". Try
mixing it with "Extended Beat" by Eric B. & Rakim (Instrumental of "Move
the Crowd"). it's quite funky that way.
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>Fedde (fe...@bern.docs.uu.se)
the anointed nubian
Dah Man
>jdv
I believe LL's Bad came out more than just a couple months sooner than MJ.
And for the record, I always liked LL and will continue to like LL (expect for
that "I'm that type of guy" BS).
Dah Man
T-Dub - SGP '92
Hi All,
Back from a WONDERFUL Thanksgiving break. Seems like I missed a lot, but
anyway.....
I thought the Ice-T/LL battle was cool. LL finally responded to Moe Dee's,
"Let's Go," a classic dis by the way, in, "To Da Break Of Dawn," but it was
nothing compared to his third verse thrashing of Ice-T. Bambatta basically
stepped in to break this feud up (ala KRS-One/X-Clan), but it was too late to
stop the release of this song. I kind of thought Ice-T was directing, "You
Played Yourself," towards LL, but he really dissed LL on, "I'm Your Pusher."
That s**t was funny! "...How 'Bout Some LL Cool J? Naw! You can keep that..."
I would have loved to hear a Ice-T response to, "...Break Of Dawn." As for Moe
Dee's, "Deathblow," that was crap. He should have left it at, "Let's Go,"
because LL could never come back from that, though his long awaited response
was funny. I always thought that was one of the reasons people didn't give him
any kind of props for _Walking With A Panther_, since Moe Dee had just dissed
him HARD. Let's see what Kool Moe is really made of though; Ultramagnetic
dissed him of their latest album, so will there be a response?
T-Dub
SHYGUY Productions '92