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KRS-One Rants and Raves About Nelly On Hot 97

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Augi

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Jul 10, 2002, 3:07:35 AM7/10/02
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On a sweltering NYC summer day the South Bronx's self-proclaimed
"teacher," KRS-One, was spewing some of his own heat in the
Hammerstein Ballroom. He berated rapper Nelly, Hip-Hop's magazines
such as The Source, XXL and VIBE, as well as Universal Records;
entities which, according to the blastmaster, have all contributed to
the continual deterioration of this culture.

"He [Nelly] needs street credibility bad," KRS said, who wore a yellow
shirt and khaki pants. "He knows it, Universal knows it and his
management knows it. Battle KRS for street credibility. You know how
much heart it takes to battle KRS? I respect Nelly's heart for that
because I'm going to smash him against the wall like a mosquito."

The KRS/Nelly beef is one of a number of verbal quarrels that Hip-Hop
has recently endured. Most of them (Jay-Z versus Nas, Nas versus
Cormega) have been commonly viewed as equal competitors going
head-to-head, but in this case, the public has often been found
scratching their noggins. KRS continued to tarnish the St. Louis
native's image, but with only the "facts."

"You selling 10 million records to a large white audience. But all you
going to say on this record [Nellyville] is 'f*ck 40 acres and a mule
give me 40 acres and a pool,'" KRS said in disgust. "Disrespect
Malcolm X, disrespect Martin Luther King . . . the lifetime work of
Marcus Garvey (reparations) wiped out on a 10 million-selling album."

KRS proceeded in ridiculing Missouri's discarded son and his antics.
From calling him a "f*cking idiot" to saying Funkmaster Flex and Hot
97 played themselves by letting him on air to rant. KRS was at his
"arrogant" best.

SOHH.com
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KRS-One is a hypocrite. The majority of the people who buy his records
are also white. So how does he slam Nelly for this?

Augi

A to the L

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Jul 10, 2002, 3:39:38 AM7/10/02
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On 10 Jul 2002 00:07:35 -0700, au...@losangeles.usa.com (Augi) said:


>KRS-One is a hypocrite. The majority of the people who buy his records
>are also white. So how does he slam Nelly for this?


because if Nelly truly does say "'f*ck 40 acres and a mule
give me 40 acres and a pool" then he needs to be slammed repeatedly...

sickim Kris sickim...

PEACH

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Dave Paget

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Jul 10, 2002, 6:58:42 AM7/10/02
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Why were they concerned about what colour clothes he was wearing?

Augi wrote:

> On a sweltering NYC summer day the South Bronx's self-proclaimed
> "teacher," KRS-One, was spewing some of his own heat in the
> Hammerstein Ballroom. He berated rapper Nelly, Hip-Hop's magazines
> such as The Source, XXL and VIBE, as well as Universal Records;
> entities which, according to the blastmaster, have all contributed to
> the continual deterioration of this culture.
>
> "He [Nelly] needs street credibility bad," KRS said, who wore a yellow

> shirt and khaki pants. "He knows it,.........................

bozak

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Jul 10, 2002, 1:13:37 PM7/10/02
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"A to the L" <al...@CHINESESPAMEATSTHEFATONEbtinternet.com> wrote in message
news:u2pniu82ojbep1g7o...@4ax.com...

> On 10 Jul 2002 00:07:35 -0700, au...@losangeles.usa.com (Augi) said:
>
>
> >KRS-One is a hypocrite. The majority of the people who buy his records
> >are also white. So how does he slam Nelly for this?
>
>
> because if Nelly truly does say "'f*ck 40 acres and a mule
> give me 40 acres and a pool" then he needs to be slammed repeatedly...
>
> sickim Kris sickim...

shit im wit nelly, what the hell am i going to do with a mule???
now on the aspects of his rappin, i aint down...


Timid

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Jul 10, 2002, 1:45:33 PM7/10/02
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hey man a mule is a good pet. you can play fetch, he can catch a frisbee in
the air, get your paper and slippers. he will keep your grass cut and fuck
your pet Sir.

shit i'll take it...gimme that shit. besides most of that 40 acre property
they were supposed to give was beachfront because they were all farmers and
thought it would be shit land.

Timid - i'd chill on the beach with my mule

A to the L

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Jul 10, 2002, 3:36:05 PM7/10/02
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:45:33 -0400, Timid <Timi...@hotmail.com> said:


>Timid - i'd chill on the beach with my mule

for you, my man, I'm thinking more horse's ass...

lick it bitch...

Mr Bravo

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Jul 10, 2002, 10:56:28 PM7/10/02
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Timid <Timi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<B951EAFD.80F6%

> Timid - i'd chill on the beach with my mule
> >
> > "A to the L" <al...@CHINESESPAMEATSTHEFATONEbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:u2pniu82ojbep1g7o...@4ax.com...
> >> On 10 Jul 2002 00:07:35 -0700, au...@losangeles.usa.com (Augi) said:

> >>> KRS-One is a hypocrite. The majority of the people who buy his records
> >>> are also white. So how does he slam Nelly for this?
> >>
> >>
> >> because if Nelly truly does say "'f*ck 40 acres and a mule
> >> give me 40 acres and a pool" then he needs to be slammed repeatedly...


Isnt 40 acres and a mule just a mere phrase, meaning it has no
actual background to it. granted, many have now carried the call for
reparations, but perhaps someone can enlighten me as to the actual
passage where this appears... just quoting my history teacher

mr bravo

Augi

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Jul 11, 2002, 12:30:56 AM7/11/02
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Dave Paget <dave....@sunderland.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<3D2C1362...@sunderland.ac.uk>...

> Why were they concerned about what colour clothes he was wearing?

Good point. E-mail je...@sohh.com and ask his dumb ass.

Augi

Timid

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Jul 11, 2002, 1:41:14 AM7/11/02
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> Isnt 40 acres and a mule just a mere phrase, meaning it has no
> actual background to it. granted, many have now carried the call for
> reparations, but perhaps someone can enlighten me as to the actual
> passage where this appears... just quoting my history teacher
>
> mr bravo
naw 40 acres and a mule was promised to the freed slaves by General Shermans
Special Field Order No. 15 after the civil war but they never gave it out.

fucked 'em again

Timid

Augi

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Jul 11, 2002, 1:43:52 AM7/11/02
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mrbra...@hotmail.com (Mr Bravo) wrote in message news:<7705a79a.02071...@posting.google.com>...

Here, this might help:

The derivation of the promise of 40 acres and a mule to ex-slaves is
not altogether clear. It has been speculated that the origin might
have derived from either of two sources: 1) the First Freedmen's
Bureau Act; or 2) efforts of the War Department to provide for the
freedmen who marched across Georgia with Sherman in late 1864-early
1865.

On March 3, 1865, just weeks before the end of the Civil War and
almost a year prior to the ratification of the 13th Amendment the
Freedmen's Bureau was created by Congress. Originally the Bureau of
Refugees, Freedmen and Abandoned Lands, the Freedmen's Bureau was
responsible for, among other things, "the supervision and management
of all abandoned lands . . . ..the control of all subjects relating to
refugees and freedmen from rebel States."4 Also according to Section 4
of the First Freedmen's Bureau Act, this agency "shall have authority
to set apart for use of loyal refugees and freedmen such tracts of
land within the insurrectionary states as shall have been abandoned or
to which the United States shall have acquired title by confiscation
or sale, or otherwise; and to every male citizen, whether refugee or
freedman, as aforesaid there shall be assigned not more than 40 acres
of such land."5

Introduced into Congress by Thaddeus Stevens this portion of the
Freedmen's Bureau Act was defeated by Congress on February 5, 1866 "by
a vote of 126 to 36."6 Lands which had been distributed to freedmen
were reclaimed and returned to the previous owners. It should be noted
that there is no mention of providing the freedmen with a mule (or any
other type of animal) in any portion of this legislature. So the
question remains in part unanswered. What is the origin of the
promised 40 acres and a mule?

The second possibility for the basis of the 叢romise' has to do with
the efforts of the War Department to furnish accoutrements for the
thousands of freedmen who assisted General Sherman in his triumphant
march across Georgia. According to Claude F. Oubre in his book Forty
Acres and a Mule, General Tecumseh Sherman, acting under an edict from
the War Department, issued Special Field Order No. 15. Promulgated on
January 16, 1865, after Sherman had conferred with 20 black ministers
and obtained the approval of the War Department, Special Order No. 15
provided that:

"The islands of Charleston south, the abandoned rice fields along the
rivers for thirty miles back from the sea, and the country bordering
St. Johns River, Florida, are reserved and set apart for the
settlement of [N]egroes now made free by the acts of war and the
proclamation of the President of the United States."

The land was then divided into 40-acre tracts. Sherman then issued
orders to General Saxton to distribute the plots and processory titles
to the head of each family of the freedmen. Sherman also ordered
General Saxon to lend to the freedmen animals that were no longer
useful to the military. "By June, 1865 approximately 40,000 freedmen
had been allocated 400,000 acres of land."
However, by September, 1865 former owners of the land reserved by
Sherman "demanded the same rights afforded returning rebels in other
states. Exempted from the general amnesty, they secured special
pardons from President Johnson." who broke the promise made to the
freedmen. When he ordered the processory titles rescinded and the land
returned to the white plantation owners Johnson gave little or no
regard to the fate of the former slaves. Dismayed, like many, Saxton
wrote Oliver O. Howard (Commissioner of the Freedmen's Bureau)
stating:

"The lands which have been taken possession of by this bureau have
been solemnly pledged to the freedmen. The law of Congress has been
published to them, and all agents of the bureau acting under your
order have provided lands to these freedmen . . . . I sincerely trust
that the government will never break its faith with a single one of
these colonists by driving him from the home which he was provided. It
is of vital importance that our promises made to freedmen should be
faithfully kept . . . . The freedmen were promised the protection of
the government in their possession. This order was issued under great
military necessity with the approval of the War Department . . . .
More than 40,000 freedmen have been provided with homes under its
promises. I cannot break faith with them now by recommending the
restoration of any of these lands. In my opinion this order of General
Sherman is as binding as a statute."

Saxton's pleas were to no avail. The freedmen were ultimately
summarily removed from the land. There were however, numerous
individuals and organizations which believed the freedmen were
entitled to land. Their conviction in this belief was not easily
thwarted. Between 1865-9 countless alternatives for solving this
matter were proposed and presented to Congress as well as President
Johnson. The motivations for these proposals were as varied as the
propositions themselves. They ranged from a sincere belief that the
freedmen were entitled to land, to fear of violence, resistance to
social, economic and political equality, concern about miscegeny,
attempts to purge the country of the burden of freedmen on the doles,
economic gain and to eliminate any competition they might present for
employment. For instance, quartermaster M.C. Megis devised a plan
which would enable the freedmen to secure land in the South. Simply
put he suggested that:

1) As a condition of receiving pardons, southerners, whose net worth
exceeded $20,000 and were not recipients of an automatic pardon as a
result of Johnson's amnesty proclamation, give to each head of family
of their former slaves from 5 to 10 acres of land.
2) The freedmen would receive full title to the land with the
stipulation that the land could not be alienated during the life time
of the grantee."

President Johnson chose not to adopt this recommendation. However,
according to Oubre, Megis' proposal may have been the inspiration for
Thaddeus Stevens' confiscation plan (one of the many he proposed for
black reparations). Just and well thought out I feel had it been
approved Stevens' proposal may have provided a more equal distribution
of wealth. The primary points of Stevens' 祖onfiscation plan'
according to Oubre are as follows:

1) The government would confiscate the property of all former
slaveholders who owned more than 200 acres of land.

2) The property seized would have been allocated to the freedmen in
lots of 40 acres.

3) The remaining land would be sold and the monies would be used to
remunerate loyalists whose property had been seized destroyed or
damaged as a result of the war.

4) Any remaining funds would be utilized to augment the pensions of
Union soldiers and to pay the national debt.

Yet another proposal suggested that the government transport the
freedmen west and colonize them along the route of the Union Pacific
Railroad. It was argued that to do so would prove beneficial for the
railroad as well as the freedmen. The freedmen would have their land.
The railroad would have both an accessible labor force and someone to
protect the trains from Indian attack Additionally, adopting this
particular proposal would also bode well for the government.
permitting it to keep its promise to provide land for the freedmen.
Simultaneously, according to Carl Schurz sand John Sprage, "this plan
would serve to remove some of the "surplus" black [people] from the
South."12
The American Missionary Association requested, to no avail, that
President Johnson reserve the land promised to the freedmen. If that
was not a suitable option they further petitioned that the freedmen be
provided with transportation to homestead lands in the west and
provided with rations enough to sustain them until crops could be
yielded. Concerned with the burgeoning African American population in
Virginia, Orlando Brown proposed, that some 10,000 African American
soldiers stationed in Texas, might be provided with a land bounty in
Texas if they remained there and sent for their families. A similar
proposal was made by "Sergeant S.H. Smothers, an African American
soldier from Indiana serving with the 25th Army Corps in Texas."

But President Johnson seemed to be determined to make sure that
freedmen received no land. He mercilessly vetoed any proposal having
to do with providing land to the freedmen that reached his desk.
Finally, Congress overrode his veto and passed a bill to extend the
life of the Freedmen's Bureau. However, it contained no provision for
granting land to the freedmen, other than to provide them access to
the Southern Homestead Act at the standard rates of purchase.

Augi
"Owe me back like 40 acres to blacks" -- Nas

Augi

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Jul 11, 2002, 10:23:15 PM7/11/02
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Dave Paget <dave....@sunderland.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<3D2C1362...@sunderland.ac.uk>...
> Why were they concerned about what colour clothes he was wearing?

I asked the author and here's what he said:

"It's adds more color to the article. It lets the reader visualize KRS
at that moment.

Thanks for reading the article and SOHH.

Peace,

Jesus"

Augi

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