2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
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In article <354E2E...@intergate.bc.ca>,
*INTERSCOPE AUTOGRAPHS <sa...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
>I just want everyone who feels like being a part of this pole, to leave
>there opinion on who's got better music: 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G.
personally i like 2pac better, but you just can't compare someone with
7 official albums (including thug life) including countless bootlegs,
unreleased songs, etc. with someone who only has 2 albums.
laterz,
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*INTERSCOPE AUTOGRAPHS
I just want everyone who feels like being a part of this pole, to leave
there opinion on who's got better music: 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G.
I say 2Pac, because his cd All eyes on me, had better tracks than
Biggie's Life after Death. And Makaveli was da bomb!
Let me know if you agree with me or what.
AJ
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>From: tip <t...@f.f.f.f>
>Date: Mon, May 4, 1998 17:18 EDT
>Message-id: <6ilbav$md1$1...@eve.enteract.com>
>>there opinion on who's got better music: 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G.
>
>7 official albums (including thug life) including countless bootlegs,
>unreleased songs, etc. with someone who only has 2 albums.
>
>laterz,
>- tip
Yes you can....Pac made Biggie. I doubt Biggie would have gotten better with
time....he's with Puff. His music would have gotten more commericial and water
downed. Pac lost some innocence as he got deeper in. In the early days he
could really make you feel him, but in the end he juss dissed anyone who fucked
with hiim, and those songs made me feel differently too. I would still prefer
now him to talk bout the issues in society or some of his deep songs again.
Biggie probably would continue his raps bout Frank Wright and Benjamins.
R.I.P. Pac till 2003
Tru Figga
Pac over Bigge ANYDAY and ANY ALBUM
Black Flame
Tupac, no question... why bother asking?
Not saying that Biggie didn' t have skills, but --- i mean really!
--
~`~ Black Flame ~`~
*INTERSCOPE AUTOGRAPHS wrote in message <354E2E...@intergate.bc.ca>...
:I just want everyone who feels like being a part of this pole, to leave
:there opinion on who's got better music: 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G.
:
:I say 2Pac, because his cd All eyes on me, had better tracks than
B0O0N7D
Tupac's music was way better, no doubt. The only shit worth mentioning about
Biggie was Ready to Die, great album track by track, but two albums...and Life
After Death was a double CD joke with only a couple hot tracks on both
discs....tupac had 7 albums, all of them hot as hell....tupac was by far the
better artist
peace
Omega XL
Biggie had the better music if you ask me. I can't wait for the nasty e-mails
I get from this bold statement of my opinion but far beyond the Cristal and
Benjamins that Biggie talked about he had a message in his music (and it wasn't
just about sellin D). If you are a rapper that is looking for a deal in any
form......at all......you have to be able to feel "Juicy". Biggie encapsulated
the life of an unsigned artist and weaved tales of how his life was before he
got on in the game. His collaboration with Bone on "Notorious Thugs" was much
better than "Thug Luv" anyday if you ask me. Yes I do like 2Pac too and I have
his CDs but when he turned to dissing people he lost all respect from me.
STRICTLY 4 MY N.I.G.G.A.Z. and 2Pacalypse Now were the albums I really enjoyed
from 2Pac. Buf in a head to head.....I give my vote to Biggie.
Dave
Khk811
It's true that many people were turned away from Pac after his diss songs, but
U did not go through what he went through the people involved, so it is not
fair to judge him in that manner. Moreover he did no just go out and randomly
attack people, when he did something, he did it for a reason... if Pac is
guilty of anything, it is simply being blatant, and not hiding your disses like
Mobb Deep, Biggie, etc... (I know that people may argue that the East Coast
style of dissing is never mentioning a rappers name, but take Canibus vs. LL
for expample~U can tell clearly who the music's about, for the "accused" they
continue to diss Pac all the more subtle and hidden so that the more hard core
fans will notice, but on a commercial level, they can still continue to pretend
to be more noble and show love to Pac). I admit that Pacs diss music was kind
of on a tangent, especially in regards to all his untapped talent, but trust
me, he has A LOT of positive, good unreleased music yet to be heard (this
unreleased music is NOT on the widespread Tupac bootlegs) where he is on point
and not caught up in his feuding. Juicy does emulate some emotions, but Big
has really fallen off in his more recent work, in almost all of Pacs songs on
the other hand, U can really feel what he is feeling, from pleasure to pain, to
straight rage to songs pleading for change in society and more... As U can
see... Unconditional Love for Pac.
DJ Assassin
You know I'm into my east so originally I would have picked Biggie but
seeing how much Pac contributed to the scene in terms of albums and other
artistic works (ie:poetry) I'd have to give it up for him. Pac all the
way. Sorry Biggie.
Rob sierakowski
2pac's definately. 2pac could actually make you feel something. Biggie
didn't make you feel anything.
Rob
*INTERSCOPE AUTOGRAPHS wrote:
>
> I just want everyone who feels like being a part of this pole, to leave
> there opinion on who's got better music: 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G.
>
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Tue, May 5, 1998 01:54 EDT
>Message-id: <199805050554...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
No, its alright its your view, but Pac is better. Pac again made the man BIG.
Beej X
> Pac again made the man BIG.<BR>
I don't know why people say this. Is it becuase pac put biggie on??? If so
would you say Digital Underground made pac. Some people have said "biggie
copied pacs style". Anyone who says this has not heard both of them, besides
wasnt pac on the Me Against the world, im gettin ready to go to prison
phase(which i feel was when he put out his best work). Ive heard "bggie took
the idea for his album ready to die from pac", i never felt like responding
because pac was not the first person in the world to talk about death so that
reason just seemed like bullshit. So maybe you can give me your reasons why
pac made big.
beej
B0O0N7D
No doubt, Biggie didn't make me feel shit on Life After Death. On Ready to Die
you could feel what he was saying and you could understand why he called
himself worthless...Life After Death was just something to bob your head too.
And as far as Thug Luv better a worse song than Notorious Thugs, I don't agree.
Notorious Thugs was a commercial rap song...tupac even states in Thug
Luv.."Heard the last jam niggah, this one's worse." I think he was saying, you
heard Notorious Thugs, well fuck that, this jam is tighter and straight up
gangsta rap. Thug Luv gets my vote, and I still hold strong saying that Tupac
was by far the better artist.
Peace
Good Opinions by all though
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Tue, May 5, 1998 09:48 EDT
>Message-id: <199805051348...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>
>> Pac again made the man BIG.
>
>
Again let pac speak:
"I possess Biggie's soul. His and Puffy's. They know I was the truest nigga
involved in Biggie's success. I don't write his rhymes but he knows how much he
borrowed from me. He knows how I used to stop my shows and let him blow up.
How i used to share my experience, my lessons, my rules and my knowledge on the
game with him. He owed me more than to turn his head and act like he didn't
know niggas was about to blow my fucking head off. He knew, and that's cool if
he disappeared and be a fucking mouse. But for me to know that three weeks
later your album's coming out, and you're a fucking don in your album, but you
don't know who shot me in your hometown, these niggas from your neighbourhood.
And I gotta find out for myself and I don't even call myself a don, I'm a just
a capo from the west side and I'm on the east side in jail and I know who
touched me, and I know everything that happened, and he didn't know so he was
faking. I was mad about that. And then I'm outta jail and I couldn't believe
that everybody was treating Biggie like the biggest fucking star in the world.
I couldn't believe that people were buying into the playa image, and I just
wanted to bring back that reality. Well, Biggie is not a playa, he's never
been, he's never had bitches until he had some fucking money. That's a trick,
that's not a playa, that's not a poppa. So my point was to prove him wrong, and
I took everything
that he glamorised it and I personified "
The funniest shit is the playa part, it dont matter if you fat or whatever it's
the fact that if you aint got NO GAME you juss dont have it and try to pretend
to have it by talkin bout it and having ho's around u to try to prove it.
Tupac 1 Biggie 0
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Tue, May 5, 1998 15:03 EDT
>Message-id: <199805051903...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Keep representing B0o0n7d......Peace kidd
B0O0N7D
Once again, a good point from tupac shakur, Biggie was no playa, he was a fake
ass playa who betrayed the man who helped him out the most. As for DU making
Pac, I would say yea they did, they put him out and BELIEVED IN HIM....pac
believed in biggie, and look what the fuck happened...
peace
Media Maniac
*INTERSCOPE AUTOGRAPHS wrote in message <354E2E...@intergate.bc.ca>...
>I just want everyone who feels like being a part of this pole, to leave
>there opinion on who's got better music: 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G.
>
>I say 2Pac, because his cd All eyes on me, had better tracks than
>Biggie's Life after Death. And Makaveli was da bomb!
>Let me know if you agree with me or what.
>
>AJ
I love Tupac like the next rap fan, but to compare him to Biggie? Come on
know, lets not be silly
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Tue, May 5, 1998 13:34 EDT
>Message-id: <6io469$n...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
HAHA! That was funny and whoever said that bout comparing him to Biggie must
be high as fuck. Peace Media Maniac
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's.....No doubt
>From: b0o...@aol.com (B0O0N7D)
>Date: Tue, May 5, 1998 18:00 EDT
>Message-id: <199805052200...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
So tru B.....DU made pac, but you didnt see Pac set them up for a hit! Ohhh
nice shot....Peace B.
I Giants l
I am from the Eastside, but I gotta say that 2pac is the better Rapper, sorry 2
Betray my side, but I speak thE truth. I really wish that Pac never started
with biggie though, because when they rapped together, it was off the hook,
anyone ever hear the freestyle with biggie smalls and 2pac, what about "runnin"
(Which I must say Trapp REALLY Fucked up by adding his lesbian-ass voice in and
tryin to make a dolla on that bullshit which I wish I never bought)? I mean,
you can't deny that, when 2pac and Biggie smalls rap together, they can't be
seen, touched, or challenged, they are above the rest. Now I am not taking
anything away from either of them, 2pacs dis songs(even though you guys feel
they weren't good) I think were 2pacs best material, and Who shot ya, well,
phat song, but Had no dis to it, in my mind, "Brooklyn's Finest" with Jay z in
it was a bigger dis that "WHO shot Ya".
"If Faith had twins she'd probably have 2 pacs(ha ha ha ha ha ha)" Unquote.
Now that one line there is a bigger dis the who shot ya, the entire song. Now
back to tupac, in his dis songs which I will not name, you really feel him, and
to be honest, rap is more entertaining with harsh remarks to other rappers,
instead of hering about the usual shit, money, hoes and clothers. Now I also
must add that 2pac got the outlawz on his side, but biggie got puffy and Lil
Kim on his side. In the Bootleg "big momma thang" she says in the end "oooh
yeah who shot ya? Who knows what they got-ya, Fed up? wet up? maybe next time
yo punk ass will keep ya head up" Now that was tight. I like dis songs more
than the usual, but back to the question, 2pac is over biggie, superior to
biggie, a better disser than biggie, better than biggie.,
P.S. if anyone has the bootleg song to little kim's "big Momma thang" I could
use it in mp3 or real audio, PLEASE email me if you a web page with that song
on it, thanks. Peace(sorry this message was so long, but I gotta express how I
feel"
B0O0N7D
I agree Big Momma Thang was a good diss song, as was Brooklyn's Finest, but
when it came to comebacks...no was better than tupac. I am glad the fued
started...Tupac just exposed Biggie as the fake playa that he is and Biggie
never opened his mouth to tell pac what was up. All Biggie said was that he
was bigger than all this shit talking that was going on, but he never denied
anything, except for the setup, and he didn't even like talking about that...
Tupac Shakur exposed Lil Kim in Hit Em Up, the whole Junior Mafia Crew, Puffy,
i mean come on, Makaveli just ripped Puff a new whole on that album.....Tupac
was on a whole other level
peace
Tariq Zeidan
I don't know man, Biggie ripped 2pac up on 'Long Kiss Goodnight' without
even saying his name
"..heard through the grapevine, you got f##ked four times..."
"...when my men bust, you just move with such stamina
sluggs missed ya,I ain't mad atcha (we ain't mad atch'ya),blood rushin'
concusions ain't nuthin', catch cases come out frontin'
smokin' somethin'..."
"I'm flaming gatts,
aiming at
these f##king maniacs
put my names in raps,
what part the game is that
like they hustle backwards..."
etc....
It seemed like Big could have made a song at least as good (and explicit)
as Hit 'Em Up but he decide not to. Anyway, we'll never know.
B0O0N7D
I forgot about that song Tariq, thanks for bringin that to my attention. I
think Biggie didn't want to reply to pac because he fucken knew pac was pissed
and would have lyrically served his fatass up.
peace kid
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Wed, May 6, 1998 14:57 EDT
>Message-id: <6iqbqh$i93$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I doubt it.....Biggie was a coward and that song Long Kiss Goodnight proves it.
Why are you hiding behind verbal shit? Come out and say the guy's name. Peace
Mickificki
I wipe my ass with both their cd liners!
Omega XL
<<Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
Date: 5/7/98 9:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <35526388...@mailexcite.com>
I wipe my ass with both their cd liners!>>
I hope you wash your hands well when you're done and don't loan CDs to friends
if that's the case!
Dave
Bradley Garry Cranford
I tottally Disagree....
May have been a bit better because Tupac was around to promote it a
better. But production and all..
Anyways Ready to die.. Biggies first album was ten times better then any
of these tupac albums or any of his unreleased shit that they keep sending
out.. What the fuck
?????????????????????????????????????????????
? "Check Yo-Self, Before Yo Wreck Yo-Self" ?
? ++++++++Ice Cube+++++++++ ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????
Much Luv
Shabby
On Mon, 4 May 1998, Black Flame wrote:
> Tupac, no question... why bother asking?
> Not saying that Biggie didn' t have skills, but --- i mean really!
> --
> ~`~ Black Flame ~`~
>
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>From: Bradley Garry Cranford <b55...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
>Date: Sat, May 9, 1998 17:50 EDT
>Message-id: <Pine.OSF.3.95.980509...@plato.ucs.mun.ca>
>
>I tottally Disagree....
>May have been a bit better because Tupac was around to promote it a
>better. But production and all..
>Anyways Ready to die.. Biggies first album was ten times better then any
>of these tupac albums or any of his unreleased shit that they keep sending
>out.. What the fuck
Another Bigige jocker haha. Promotion? Damn you Biggie fans are gettin
desperate. Whats next.....SALES?! Shit. Peace out fool
*INTERSCOPE AUTOGRAPHS
> Another Bigige jocker haha. Promotion? Damn you Biggie fans are gettin
> desperate. Whats next.....SALES?! Shit. Peace out fool
I agree! This comment was directed at 2Pac's best cd. NOT BIGGIE'S!
So all you people saying Biggie's shit is better, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT, SO LEARN HOW TO FUCKIN READ!!!!
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Sun, May 10, 1998 03:30 EDT
>Message-id: <355557...@intergate.bc.ca>
>I agree! This comment was directed at 2Pac's best cd. NOT BIGGIE'S!
>So all you people saying Biggie's shit is better, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE
>TALKING ABOUT, SO LEARN HOW TO FUCKIN READ!!!!
True muthafucking that
Leon Mills
2pack was the greatest rapper of all time. Hands down, no one could touch
the #1 OUTLAW IMMORTAL
Anirban Haldar
So you've heard all of the unreleased shit! Please don't even
compare Pac to Biggie! Biggie was a lazy ass fat fuc that recorded an
album once every 3 years! Pac was in the studio every day and every night
makin music redefining and improving his sound. 2PAc's style changed but
his music has gotten much better. You're telling me that R U Still Down
isn't tight! You're crazy!
On Sat, 9 May 1998, Bradley Garry Cranford wrote:
> I tottally Disagree....
> May have been a bit better because Tupac was around to promote it a
> better. But production and all..
> Anyways Ready to die.. Biggies first album was ten times better then any
> of these tupac albums or any of his unreleased shit that they keep sending
> out.. What the fuck
>
>
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????
> ? "Check Yo-Self, Before Yo Wreck Yo-Self" ?
> ? ++++++++Ice Cube+++++++++ ?
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> Much Luv
> Shabby
>
>
> On Mon, 4 May 1998, Black Flame wrote:
>
> > Tupac, no question... why bother asking?
> > Not saying that Biggie didn' t have skills, but --- i mean really!
> > --
> > ~`~ Black Flame ~`~
> >
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Fri, May 22, 1998 12:42 EDT
>Message-id: <Pine.OSF.3.95.980522...@plato.ucs.mun.ca>
>
>
> So you've heard all of the unreleased shit! Please don't even
>compare Pac to Biggie! Biggie was a lazy ass fat fuc that recorded an
>album once every 3 years! Pac was in the studio every day and every night
>makin music redefining and improving his sound. 2PAc's style changed but
>his music has gotten much better. You're telling me that R U Still Down
>isn't tight! You're crazy!
True that kidd
migu...@webtv.net
biggie is just a no talent fat fuck
Omega XL
To all the Pac jock riders, please get off the man's organ already. Just
because someone likes Biggie more doesn't mean that they are inferior people or
don't know what "real hip hop is". And calling Biggie fat and other
unglamorizing names does nothing but prove you to be an immature individual.
BOTH 2Pac and Biggie left behind legends that will never die and I think that
it's time we respect both artists instead of mocking Biggie, jocking Pac, vice
versa or all of the above.
Dave
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><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Fri, May 22, 1998 20:19 EDT
>Message-id: <199805230019...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
>
>To all the Pac jock riders, please get off the man's organ already. Just
>because someone likes Biggie more doesn't mean that they are inferior people
>or
>don't know what "real hip hop is". And calling Biggie fat and other
>unglamorizing names does nothing but prove you to be an immature individual.
>BOTH 2Pac and Biggie left behind legends that will never die and I think that
>it's time we respect both artists instead of mocking Biggie, jocking Pac,
>vice
>versa or all of the above.
Whose jockin Pac??? No one said those who like Biggie dont know what real hip
hop is. Alot are hip hop fans but some, more than most, are commericial fools.
Peace
Barcs1
>biggie is just a no talent fat fuck
he had talent, but he could of been so much better without puff.
---===BARCS===---
Omega XL
{{{{{{Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
From: migu...@webtv.net
Date: 5/22/98 10:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <6k5d6u$4da$1...@newsd-122.bryant.webtv.net>
biggie is just a no talent fat f%%%}}}}}}}
Thank you for such an intelligent post. How enlightened I was when I was done
reading your lack of wisdom. I especially loved the way you resorted to old,
tasteless insults. That really showed off your immaturity in a new light.
Bradley Garry Cranford
Their is a reason that stuff wasn't released when he was alive.
And it is because it is just not as good as the stuff they had released on
the albums prior. Now.. Any album I have heard from 2pac does not
compare.. O.K. me against the world was a good album but none came close
to ready to die.. You gotz to be trippin if you don't think so.
Peace to Biggy and 2Pac
?????????????????????????????????????????????
? "Check Yo-Self, Before Yo Wreck Yo-Self" ?
? ++++++++Ice Cube+++++++++ ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????
Much Luv
Shabby
On Fri, 22 May 1998, Anirban Haldar wrote:
>
> So you've heard all of the unreleased shit! Please don't even
> compare Pac to Biggie! Biggie was a lazy ass fat fuc that recorded an
> album once every 3 years! Pac was in the studio every day and every night
> makin music redefining and improving his sound. 2PAc's style changed but
> his music has gotten much better. You're telling me that R U Still Down
> isn't tight! You're crazy!
>
>
>
>
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>From: Bradley Garry Cranford <b55...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
>Message-id: <Pine.OSF.3.95.980523...@plato.ucs.mun.ca>
>
>Their is a reason that stuff wasn't released when he was alive.
>And it is because it is just not as good as the stuff they had released on
>the albums prior. Now.. Any album I have heard from 2pac does not
>compare.. O.K. me against the world was a good album but none came close
>to ready to die.. You gotz to be trippin if you don't think so.
>Peace to Biggy and 2Pac
u funny kidd.....Ready 2 Die better than any of Pac's shit. Thts ok...one of a
million thinks so. Dont say it out in public buddy.
Omega XL
I think that Ready To Die was better than any of Pac's music.
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
>Date: Sun, May 24, 1998 01:18 EDT
>Message-id: <199805240518...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
>
>I think that Ready To Die was better than any of Pac's music.
>
>Dave
>Dave representing Cleveland, OH 216
My fault 2 out of a billion. Who would have imagined that....besides people
odd enuff to think Biggie's "music" is better than Pac's. Aint that a bitch.
{like Biggie}
Nikil Deo
R u still down is tight???
u gotta be joking....it has good lyrics but the beats are a load of shit
compare r u still down to the songs he's made on Death Row and then u see
why r u still down is a shit album
Anirban Haldar <s7...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> wrote in article
<Pine.OSF.3.95.980522...@plato.ucs.mun.ca>...
Siavash Ashrafinia
You guys r crazy...I cant belive what Im hearing!!!2pac didnt even compare to
biggie's lyrical gift...I got one thing to say....for those who think BIG cant
flow...just peep the tracks "THE 10 CRACK COMMANDMENTS"...
P.S. none of 2 pacs albums ever got 5 mics!!remember that shit you shook
individuals...
Tru Figga wrote:
> ><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's
> >From: Anirban Haldar <s7...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
> >Date: Fri, May 22, 1998 12:42 EDT
> >Message-id: <Pine.OSF.3.95.980522...@plato.ucs.mun.ca>
> >
> >
> > So you've heard all of the unreleased shit! Please don't even
> >compare Pac to Biggie! Biggie was a lazy ass fat fuc that recorded an
> >album once every 3 years! Pac was in the studio every day and every night
> >makin music redefining and improving his sound. 2PAc's style changed but
> >his music has gotten much better. You're telling me that R U Still Down
> >isn't tight! You're crazy!
>
> True that kidd
Markus Seppälä
I agree with you, Anirban, partially at least. To me,
comparing Pac with Biggie seems very far away, as Pac made rap
and Biggie made pop intended for the mass market. Vast
difference there. Biggie would definitely not be considered a
legend if he had not been killed.
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Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's??
>From: Siavash Ashrafinia <sbro...@lynx.bc.ca>
>Date: Sun, May 24, 1998 07:53 EDT
>Message-id: <35680A2F...@lynx.bc.ca>
>
>You guys r crazy...I cant belive what Im hearing!!!2pac didnt even compare to
>biggie's lyrical gift...I got one thing to say....for those who think BIG
>cant
>flow...just peep the tracks "THE 10 CRACK COMMANDMENTS"...
>P.S. none of 2 pacs albums ever got 5 mics!!remember that shit you shook
>individuals...
So much jealousy in the air...5 mics of the Source? Wow. Didnt they give some
shitty album {Life After Death} 5 mics and alot of better albums like 2 mics?
Bullshit. U comparin what a bunch of East Coast biased bitches think. Yea all
u keep on mentionin how Biggie can flow and has better lyrical "skill" than Pac
but who fuckin told him bout the game? Game, Set, match bitches
Omega XL
So because 2Pac told him about the game we're supposed to rush to 2Pac's side?
Biggie's the one that was born with the talent, 2Pac couldn't instill that in
him. Eazy E told Bone about the rap game so are we supposed to say that Eazy
is better than Bone? And because Bone wanted to leave Ruthless do we then say
that they're some bitches because of that? Bone told all the people on their
label about the game so are they less talented than Bone? Proteges in the rap
game have a long history. Biggie has the talent, not 2Pac. 2Pac may have told
him about the game but he didn't make the man.
Dave
Tru Figga
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: 2Pac's music is better than Biggie's??
>Date: Mon, May 25, 1998 02:44 EDT
>Message-id: <199805250644...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Talent? Talent is nothing without experience and Pac had that. What there are
like many MC's with talent but they dont make it? Why? Biggie wouldnt have
been shit without Pac. Peace
*INTERSCOPE AUTOGRAPHS
Omega XL wrote:
>
So because 2Pac told him about the game we're supposed to rush to 2Pac's
instill that in him. Biggie has the talent, not 2Pac. 2Pac may have
told him about the game but he didn't make the man.
Buddy, you don't got a fuckin clue what your talkin about. 2pac's shit
was better than Biggie's. All that Pig did was sit on his ass all day,
and make a record every 3 years. AJ
Tru Figga
>Buddy, you don't got a fuckin clue what your talkin about. 2pac's shit
>was better than Biggie's. All that Pig did was sit on his ass all day,
>and make a record every 3 years. AJ
Nice one, but dont give OmegaXL shit to talk about. I can imagine what he will
say next... "Juss cuz Pac made more doesn't mean he's better." It means Pac
could write what he felt off the top of his head at anytime and I doubt Biggie
could do that. Peace
Omega XL
{{{{{Buddy, you don't got a fuckin clue what your talkin about. 2pac's shit
was better than Biggie's. All that Pig did was sit on his ass all day,
and make a record every 3 years. AJ}}}}}}}}
Yeah of course, I don't know what I'm talking about. Right....I forgot, you're
the one with the knowledge that everyone wishes could be bestowed upon them
right? So because I like Biggie I'm the bad guy right? Because I like him
better than 2Pac that makes me an ignorant individual that can't recognize
rapping ability? All Pig did was sit on his a--......right, of course! I
don't have a clue? Like you do!? So why don't you bless us with your wisdome
and knowledge?
{{{{{{{Nice one, but dont give OmegaXL shit to talk about. I can imagine what
he will
say next... "Juss cuz Pac made more doesn't mean he's better." It means Pac
could write what he felt off the top of his head at anytime and I doubt Biggie
could do that. Peace}}}}}}
You know what TruFigga you used to have a lot to say and not all of it was shit
that came out of your mouth but now I'm starting to think otherwise. You're the
worst person in this newsgroup about the 2Pac/Biggie thing. Look man, both of
them are dead.....dead!!! let them rest, let your ignorant little problems
with Biggie rest. And then you go so far to put words in my mouth. You know
what? You define a total dick-rider. Look at your screenname TruFigga. Pac
related. All you talk about is Pac I never see you talk about anything else in
this newsgroup. This must be what you live and breathe and all you
know.........2Pac this, 2Pac that..... You have never had anything nice to say
about ANYONE that says they like Biggie. Why is that such a bad thing to you?
WHY? I mean the man is dead, do you have to be that upset with him now? Do you
have to belittle the fans of his music? Does that make you a better person or
make you feel superior in some way? And then you say " dont give OmegaXL shit
to talk about. I can imagine what he will say next" I pay my $21 a month like
you do for AOL and I'll say what I want to whom I want at anytime I want to. I
don't care if you don't like me, Biggie or anyone in the world.....you're the
one acting like Biggie is the most heinous man in the world and that 2Pac was
the second coming of Christ himself or something! I know you've never said
that but it's the feeling and message that comes across. Say what you want
about Biggie, 2Pac, me, anyone and everyone in the world.....but trust me I
will not be silenced and um....you are about the biggest obsessed individual I
have come across on or offline.
Dave
Dave representing Cleveland, OH 216
The Wasteland Souljahs Bone Thugs n Harmony page:
Barcs1
>Their is a reason that stuff wasn't released when he was alive. <BR>
>And it is because it is just not as good as the stuff they had released
>the albums prior. Now.. Any album I have heard from 2pac does not<BR>
>compare.. O.K. me against the world was a good album but none came close<BR>
>to ready to die.. You gotz to be trippin if you don't think so.<BR>
>Peace to Biggy and 2Pac
I must be trippin then. First of all I thought Life After Death was 10 times
better than ready to die. Makaveli, all eyez on me, and me against the world
top ready to die.
---===BARCS===---
Barcs1
<<R u still down is tight???
u gotta be joking....it has good lyrics but the beats are a load of shit
compare r u still down to the songs he's made on Death Row and then u see
why r u still down is a shit album>>
First of all, that shit was put together after 2pac died. of course the songs
aren't as good as the old ones. they were all the unrealeased stuff from the
early 90s. Makaveli 2 is a double cd that's gonna be his more recent stuff
unreleased. Even though r u still down isn't as good as the other it's still
pretty phat. R U Still Down, Open Fire, Fuck All Ya'll, and I wonder if heaven
got a ghetto are all tight joints. Shit I liked this album better than
strickly 4 my niggaz.
---===BARCS===---
KIDM Tha Lost Outlaw
Let me get this straight. So are you saying that Biggie has talent
and 2Pac doesn't. That's some funny shit , cause if Biggie had so
much talent then how come he only put out 2 CD's while 2Pac released 5
himself including Thug Life, 8 altogether including those released
after his death and a whole lot more songs yet to be released. I'll
tell you why. Cuse Pac was a workaholic who knew what he wanted to
achieve in his carrer when Biggie was as lazy as fuck. I mean the
CD's that Biggie released were exactly like 2Pac's. Ready 2 Die sound
so much like Pac's style and then he went and copied more by releasing
a double album just like 2Pac's All Eyez On Me. As a matter of fact
ever since 2Pac came out with that album everyone started releasing
double albums. It seems that in the recent years anything that 2Pac
dfid everyone wanted to do. Anywayz back to the subject. I can see
your point of view but I don't agree what so ever with you saying that
Biggie has the talent not 2Pac.
KIDM Tha Lost Outlaw
From One Thug & Outlaw 2 Another
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~kidm
On 25 May 1998 06:44:45 GMT, ome...@aol.com (Omega XL) wrote:
>So because 2Pac told him about the game we're supposed to rush to 2Pac's side?
>Biggie's the one that was born with the talent, 2Pac couldn't instill that in
>him. Eazy E told Bone about the rap game so are we supposed to say that Eazy
>is better than Bone? And because Bone wanted to leave Ruthless do we then say
>that they're some bitches because of that? Bone told all the people on their
>label about the game so are they less talented than Bone? Proteges in the rap
>game have a long history. Biggie has the talent, not 2Pac. 2Pac may have told
Str8...@webtv.net
Actulally, rap's first double CD was Down South Hustlers from No Limit
Records. You can't really say anyone stole an idea for a double CD
though. Other music was doing 30 years ago.
Tru Figga
>Message-id: <199805260231...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Hey Omega I have no quarrrel with you. That's wrong, I have said many times I
liked Biggie's music, but I didnt respect him. And you are wrong about me
dissin people when they say they like Biggie. I saw this man who liked Biggie
and me and him had a chat on here and I didnt even diss him. To tell you the
truth, I get angry when fools come on here saying stupid shit like "Puffy
rules, Westside sux." U know I aint from the West or nuttin or any side
choosing, but its stupid shit. And most of that shit is Biggie "nut-riders."
You have a valid point about me being a Pac dick rider. It doesn't really
bother me. Its just makes me a true fan, but hopefully not a blind fan. If I
said "Pac didnt shoot that man" and they have a video showing Pac shootin that
man then you got a good reason to diss me. I see what you are sayin and it
was my badd, I didnt mean to say you couldnt say shit or have a voice. No
Biggie aint the most heinous person on the earth, but does it mean he's an
angel? Hell nah. Peace
NICOLE TURNER
The sad thing is, both of them are dead.(?) I could never stop loving 2
pac or Biggie. I feel Pac had been able to do more than Big becouse he'd
been out longer.(publicly) Big had much talent. He was very gifted and
funny. I believe the beef with most people at this point is most people
don't like Puffy so the don't like BIG. But if I had to rate them I'd
have to say lyricly Pac #1, Biggie #2 but climbing. It's sad Pac died
early. He was headed for doom. His lifestyle attractced trouble(even if
it wasn't his personality). He maybe could have had a chance to clean
his image up.Big didn't really have an image poblem and probably could
have lived a long, time hope they Both R.I.P whereever they rest.
Come into my house!!!!!
http://www.suresite.com/mi/t/tub
ROCTOWN
The way I see it, they were both fresh, period. Production is nothing because
they both had banging production. Pac could tell better stories and seem to
have more of a range of knowledge about world situations, yet Biggie was the
lyrical wizard, he could flip anything and it was fresh. Why argue over them
when they were both equally as fresh?
Omega XL
Exactly, I agree that both 2Pac and Biggie are tremendous losses to the music!
I hate it when someone just continually brings down Biggie or says something
bad about 2Pac. I understand that that's that person's opinion but what do you
get out of insulting a dead person? That's like Chino XL talkin about Eazy-E's
blood sample on his album or calling 2Pac "one nut" or calling Biggie "Fat
Piggie" or whatever. I just wish that we could let the dead rest in peace,
admire their talents and legacies and enjoy the music they left behind.
Tru Figga....I feel you and I'm sorry if I upset you with that post. At least
you bring up opinions that are validated and have substance.
Barcs1
<< Big had much talent. He was very gifted and
funny. I believe the beef with most people at this point is most people
don't like Puffy so the don't like BIG>>
That's not true. Puffy didn't become popular (and hated) until after Biggie
died. Biggie was great, but puffy made a shitload of money off his death, and
I don't respect that, or the fact that he's a beat jacker.
---===BARCS===---
Barcs1
<<Actulally, rap's first double CD was Down South Hustlers from No Limit
Records. You can't really say anyone stole an idea for a double CD
though. Other music was doing 30 years ago.>>
What he meant was it the first really popular double CD.
---===BARCS===---
Tru Figga
>Tru Figga....I feel you and I'm sorry if I upset you with that post. At
>least
>you bring up opinions that are validated and have substance.
Its aiite, I didnt expect you to get really mad. HAHA. Peace
AgEnT CaGe
Biggie=wackest
"Rap is something you do Hip-Hop is something you live"-KRSone
"i'am the probable only one wild enough to shoot you with a knife and stabe you
with a gun"-Eminem
JayJay
i'm not gonna get into this debate... but what sorta statement is that
where is your evidence... with this do you honestly believe you have
adjusted anyones opinions... nah you just made yourself look like a fool,
someone who is trying to convert us all with how many words... 2!
elle
AgEnT CaGe <agen...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199805290356...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
devin...@gmail.com
> In article <354E2E...@intergate.bc.ca>,
> >I just want everyone who feels like being a part of this pole, to leave
> >there opinion on who's got better music: 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G.
>
> 7 official albums (including thug life) including countless bootlegs,
> unreleased songs, etc. with someone who only has 2 albums.
>
> laterz,
> - tip
>
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