Topic: Rap Beef and the dethroning of Jay- Z
Sinful The Rap Assassin
alot of beef going on in the mainstream arena, and in the center of that ring
is Jay Z. There has been beef in the air for about a year now between everybody
and the Roc, main contenders being the entire Queensbridge rap comittee. Nas
was dropping hint bars at Bleek. JayZ was quiet during this while his main
front man Beanie Sigel was going to war verbally with MobbDeep. Evrybody was
getting in there little freestyles on mixtapes dropping hints at who they're
beefing with but it seems the main even is yet to start. After what happened at
SummerJam ( a big concert held by a raido staion in NY ), the beef wars have
crossed the line. If you didnt know, Jay-Z performed at SummerJam and disgraced
Prodigy of MobbDeep by showing pictures on big screen projectors of Prodigy at
age 11 wearing a Michael Jackson studded jacket with leotards, and another one
with P in a pink Tutu. Some may say "so what, he was eleven" or " people werent
born thugs" but most cats now that he was highly disrespected. You dont dig
into someone's personal life, bring out some embarassing ass photos at a
concert being seen by thousands, and expect everything to be all good in the
spirit of battling. Many people might question P's image of being thorough, and
stop copping anything he makes, hence that man cant eat. It's ok to battle, but
people take pride and money seriously. Queens and Roc-A-Fella have been beefing
back and forth, but that stunt crossed the line. Enter the Jada and Beanie
beef. Jada ran his mouth about people stealing his flow and saying "since
everyone in philly started sounding like him, they've been getting signed". Now
I feel thats half true. Jada threw a jab at the Roc on that quote becuase if
you inspect Rocafella's latest signed artists, all of them are from Philly.
Notice, when you used to hear Philly in rap, who you thought of? Fucking Will
Smith (and to some extent The Roots). Now it's like Philly is blowing up in the
past 2 years since Beans got put on. When The Souce asked Beanie about the
comments Jada said, Sigel said " I am Philly". Beginning of personal beef 2. In
the past months, you could've heard a couple of freestyles by the 2 on mixtapes
ripping each other. The song on Jada's album featuring DMX was a
straightforward call out to Rocafella. Styles of the LOX has just came out with
a song throwing jabs at Rocafella and Damon Dash. Very personal, becuase in the
end of the song he makes it clear. " I'll still litsen to your music, but there
wont be any more songs. Let's do it like gangstas". Shit is escalating now on
the fact that Nas's new song ( untitled still but heads are calling it
Stillmatic) call's each person out from the Roc and former friend Cormega.
Cormega had beef with Nas and Nature after being booted out of The Firm for
Nas's cousin (Nature). Cormega has fucked Nature up in person, but that was
over 2 years ago. The beef was squashed and all seemed straight between the
long time friends, right? Doesnt seem so because on Cormega's new album, He
disses the shit outta Nas. Now the song is old being as Cormega's album has
been pushed back for years, but why did he still put it on the album if
everything is all good? Strange. Cormega and Stan Spit have been beefing also.
You might've heard Stan on some tracks on BigL's second album. Stan dissed
Camron for cutting him off a track on Cam's LP. Well Cam thought Stan sounded a
lil too much like him and decided to diss him. Now, they know each other
personally, so you know that some one had to cross the line. On a DJ Kay Slade
mix tape, Camron taped a phone conversation between him and Spit. Cam totally
punked the shit outta him on some real personal shit. Now alot of heads in NY
litsen to Kay Slade's mixtapes, and both Camron and Stan live in Harlem. Stan
gets bitched out on tape coppin pleas and shit. No one is gonna cop your shit
any more. Another nigga cant eat. That's deadly right there. All this beef
going on, why? Mostly because Jay is on top. the other side beefs are ignorant
but the really important ones are because of those facts. Before Kiss had beef
with Sigel, he was throwing hidden jabs at Jay. Jay Z threw some jabs " I dont
drink soda but I will Sun Kiss, but Jay hit him where it counts. His pocket.
Notice, Kiss did best of me with Mya and Fiesta with R.Kelly. Jay was on the
remix to both of those tracks. Coincidence? No. He stopped the mans airplay
right there. How many of yall rembered that Kiss was on Fiesta? or Best of Me?
As soon as Jay did the remix, they were mainstays in rotation. Fiesta remix
still gets bumped regular. Nas is trying to prove to cats that he's stillmatic
but he cant unless he bumps Hova out the top spot. Jay is the disputed King of
rap right now, and has been for the past few years. Argue if you want (I dont
like his commercial shit), but he can piss on records and go paltinum. He runs
the radio, and alot of people are not eating. The west coast doesnt care
because they are resurging hard. I think most of em are wack but compare now to
4 years ago, there is mad west caost videos on video shows now. Dre helped them
climb back up. The west is kinda all together but in the east, Hova is running
the show. Now I know this was long but it was on my mind for a minute. Beef is
beef, but all this gunplay rap, embarassing pictures, and the crab in the
barrell mentality is starting to look serious. Even though Jada and Beans
squashed the beef, that still leaves everyone else that was beefing. My rant
went on long, off topic in some places, but I felt we should talk about it. I
think only cats in NY and the east coast will care though. Any opinions?
Sin - "We aint Rocafella, we aint them crab ass niggas" Prodigy
A to the L
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A to the L
On 17 Aug 2001 13:41:03 GMT, mik...@aol.com (Sinful The Rap Assassin)
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"That said, A to the L owns all your stankin asses. Man can rap his ass off. The rest are scrubs." some Fat dude...
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Sinful The Rap Assassin wrote:
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Just what I was thinking.
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Timid
about her getting bumped from Dynasty when she was the one who was
there when the Dynasty idea was formed. Amil spot is where Foxy was
supposed to be.
I also heard that Amil has now kinda been bumped from Dynasty. You got
any of that info?
Timid
Ish
The rap world needs to listen to my words of wisdom...it's my time to shine!
Ish...bout to go vinyl...
Critique and platinumize my rhymes...or else.
Current alt.rap Battle Ranking: 22 points, tied for 13th
C'mon, challenge me.
Next Year Tournament Champion: [[Theoretic]]
GOD i'm good...wait, that's me.
I still put the "ill" in "skill". ...seriously.
Redeem
travelling CD's. Readin this makes me wanna hear some NY shit. All I got is
MCGruff though. I agree on being against 'public embarassment shit', showing
baby pics and shit is petty bullshit. I can understand when it was done to Dre,
but younger then that age is bull. But feck, I wanna hear some Jay/Mobb right
now. No one want's blood spilt, but past beef's have been the most interesting
parts of hiphop.
...Redeem....
" thinkin will I be the next nigga deceased,
over some bullshit beef, I pack heat " - Prodigy -
Sinful The Rap Assassin says...
Adrunk
commercial product after commercial product and heave in the money from each
one. Jay-Z churns out commercial rap record after commercial rap record and
heaves in money from each one. Microsoft force the other companies, by way
of profit, to adapt to their products. Jay-Z forces other MCs, by way of
profit, to collab on each other's records. Microsoft puts in just the bare
minimum of effort to just ease above being totally below average quality.
Jay-Z puts in the bare minimum of effort to just ease above being totally
wack. You get the idea. Jay-Z was dope, he was one of the best Brooklynite
MCs at the time of Reasonable Doubt. But he's progressed into rap
superstardom, and seen that it's now very easy, and his effort has been
focused on money rather than artistic expression. And as for the beef, it's
blatantly obvious that both RR and Roca have seized this opportunity to
boost record sales of both Beanie's new album, Jay's new album and
predominantly Jadakiss' new album. Beef, as long as it's restricted to
vinyl, is good for hip hop, whoever it is. As long as it's on
vinyl..............
Ad.......
Sinful The Rap Assassin
>Cormega and Stan Spit have been beefing also>
The Cormega in this sentence should read Camron.
Sin - Rants make you fuck up
Sinful The Rap Assassin
Go right ahead. Just change the line I put in the email.
Sin - On my way to magazines
Sinful The Rap Assassin
>about her getting bumped from Dynasty when she was the one who was
>there when the Dynasty idea was formed. Amil spot is where Foxy was
>supposed to be.
>
>I also heard that Amil has now kinda been bumped from Dynasty. You got
>any of that info?
Man Timid, I was thinking that but it never escalated to wax for it to be
considered "beef". Jay and Fox fell off but they never shitted on each other on
songs. Now when Cormega got bumped from the Firm, all hell broke loose. When
that happened, Cormega was making Nas diss tracks like every week. Thats rap
beef. Jay and Fox' stuff was business, nothing personal. Battling is hiphop,
beef in battling is not. I should've put the beef between Noreaga and Tragedy
but that was old. Around the same time of the Nas and Cormega beef (about 4
years ago) but Cormega's album made the beef fresh again. Also, Amil has been
oficially dumped from the Roc. Come on, it was bound to happen. She doesnt have
enough skills to make a diss track. Her LP moved barely any units (no
platinum). They said something about her being pregnant but thats not the case.
Jay has a way of jerking artists on the low. Look what happened to Da Ranjahz
and Diamonds in Da Rough. They were singed to Rocafella for years and they
havent dropped anything except for featurings. It so bad, that Jay made a
seperate sub label to Rocafella called Carter Faculty. Those are the artist
that are signed to Roc but arent quite gonna make big sales. To kinda not
associate it to Rocafella, the label was made. Now picture this, your signed to
a label under contract, and they're not putting you in the studio. You can't
just up and leave cause of them pushing you back, because you're under
contract. Either for certain years or for a number of albums (5 years or 5
albums, which ever come first). Since you're not making albums, you're stuck
there for 5 years not eating. Which is the case for most people LP's getting
pushed back for obscene years, especially when the album is finished. Cases in
point Nature, Cormega, Tragedy, and Black Rob (he was lucky, a year away from
being dropped, till they felt he was ready when he made "Whoa"). Anymore
questions?
Sin - Makes me feel like i'm in High School again.
Sinful The Rap Assassin
Hell yeah. And what I dont get is, why is he still talking about AK's and macs?
Funny how fast we forget. P was young in those pictures. It's funny but he was
a youngin. Dre on the other hand, was fucking 18 wearing makeup and tight ass
glittery suits singing his ass off. Dre's image changes with what you like. If
weed and guns went out of style, and you liked opera and ballets, that nigga
would be rappin in Swan Lake looking like Brum Hilda. He can make a beat
though.
Sin - Cause he aint foolin nobody
Sinful The Rap Assassin
>travelling CD's. Readin this makes me wanna hear some NY shit. All I got is
>MCGruff though.
Thanks, but damn 'Deem. McGruff? You're hurting. You got the net, start burning
some shit. I wish I had a burner and Napster was still on point. I'd dl all the
hype Eminem and Canibus shit I can get my hands on. Speaking on that note.
Anyone can hook me up with 2 cdr's of old (post Infinite and pre MM LP) Eminem
freestyles, songs and featurings. His old shit is sick. None of that D12,
Britney Spears diss BS. That's why MM LP to me was trash. D12 LP is trash also.
Peace
Sin - All over the place
Sinful The Rap Assassin
>heaves in money from each one.
Thats true to an extent. I'm a Jay Z hater but I give the man credit. I thought
the Dynasty LP was gonna be shit based off the first 2 singles but damn I was
wrong. Those were like the only singles on there. He can make a thought
provoking song when he wants to. But yeah, he is a sack of commercial piece of
shit.
>Microsoft force the other companies, by way
>of profit, to adapt to their products.
Ha. Jay makes what people likes. He runs the radio and the clubs. He doesnt buy
his shit, people do. His mentality has fucked up the game though. Ice and
benzes are a young mans priorities nowadays.
>Jay-Z forces other MCs, by way of
>profit, to collab on each other's records.
Can't blame Hova on that one. Labels been doing that before him. Labelmates and
such are most of the time forced to jump on each others albums.
>Jay-Z puts in the bare minimum of effort to just ease above being totally
>wack.
Yeah. Reasonable Doubt was fire, Vol 1 was ok, Vol 2 was featuring heaven but
it was good, Vol 3 was trash, and Dynasty was good. Not consistent but he will
always go triple plat and more cause his singles get drilled on the radio.
Girls love Jay. His money mentality gets em open.
>Jay-Z was dope, he was one of the best Brooklynite
>MCs at the time of Reasonable Doubt. But he's progressed into rap
>superstardom, and seen that it's now very easy, and his effort has been
>focused on money rather than artistic expression.
Couldn't put it better myself. He's at the point where less effort gets him the
same amount of money as over exherted dopeness. Hunger will do that to you.
> And as for the beef, it's
>blatantly obvious that both RR and Roca have seized this opportunity to
>boost record sales of both Beanie's new album, Jay's new album and
>predominantly Jadakiss' new album. Beef,
Yeah. People don't see that but a few wise cats do. Given the fact that
Beanie's new album The Reason is SHIT. The Truth blows it away. Litsen to him,
his rhyming words most of the time is rock, gloc, shop, brick, clip. He has the
3 word, same syllable rhyme scheme that most of rap has adopted now but he does
it stupidly. Jada's new LP is also shit. Way below the hype that was expected.
This beef should move them couple more thousand units.
Sin - Beef is profitable......... in rap
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A to the L
On 18 Aug 2001 06:37:38 GMT, mik...@aol.com (Sinful The Rap Assassin)
wrote:
>>Nice post man. Since I been in OZ, only hiphop I been exposed to is my
"That said, A to the L owns all your stankin asses. Man can rap his ass off. The rest are scrubs." some Fat dude...
Rane of Terror
>Britney Spears diss BS. That's why MM LP to me was trash. D12 LP is trash
>also.
yo dog, i feel the same way. i got this bootleg double cd of all eminem
freestyles and guest appearances and shit. that old shit with scam is off the
fucking hook. im getting sick of eminem though, i think the mm lp was okay to
an extent...but him and the rest of them d-12 fools came wack as hell on that
devils night peice of shit...
i dont got a burner, but i got 2 hour maxell cassette tapes incase you want a
dub, get at me...
Timid
on wax against Jay-z but then again I haven't heard her New album that
she just released. From what I hear it's cool, she dumped that prissy
lil kim coochie on your mustache style and hit with a better rhyme
style. Maybe she dropped some hints on there. I heard about Foxy
having ill feelings for Jigga from BET.
Yea Amil was trash. There is no way I would be able to listen to a
whole album of that chick. Somebody was getting some apparently. Never
really felt Beanie either..."i'm the reason why Jay feels comfortable
retiring" <---delusions of granduer.
Timid - Loving this intelectual shit for once btw Fuck Sir
Parksss
beefs.
to those who havent progressed into the Underground rap world yet,here
is one rule for "the game" ANY, and i mean ANYONE will fuck you over
if given the chance. For one thing. If you have something they want,
they will use you to get it. Bottom line. Its a bitch. Ive had some
homies from other local rap groups come to my house and drink with me,
and come to find the next day their talkin bad about me on some
personal shit. Ive dropped tracks for other peoples albums and been
told fuck off when i ask em to drop on mine(i got a real goodsolution
for that problem though). All i nall mainstream beefs are about money,
underground beefs are ALWAYS personal.
oh yeah ya gotta talk about the new beef which may or may not end up
with some of D12 dead. I dunno if many of you are familiar with Esham
and Natas two of MI's/the countrys most well recognized Horrorcore
MCs. D12(i heard eminem wasnt there) along with their tour bus Jumped
esham and natas over some Beef theyve had on tour. Natas was just
bruised up, but esham had a ruptured eyeball and is rumored to have
lost hearing in one ear(talk about fuckin with someones means of makin
money)Now if Esham is even half as sick as the shit he says on
records....D12 could be in trouble. Its a damn shame too. Why people
gotta take shit so serious? i mean talkin shit is talkin shit...but it
aint worth dying for. ya heard? im out.
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