RICHH: WILDSIDE ERRATUM
RICHH
But you knew that already.
RICHH
Kent L Shephard
Yea, we knew it. You also got a couple of others wrong. But I'm not
counting.
Marky Mark my not be the best rhyme master but it works for his style.
I don't like the New Kids (bleck! 8-( ) but I like Marky Mark and the
Funky Bunch. He is not another Vanilla Ice (bleck!), so far that is.
WILDSIDE does have a message.
If you are wondering, yes I am a true rap fan. PE, Cube, BDP, EPMD,
Paris, Ice T, CMW, are all favorites of mine.
As long as Marky Mark stays true to the game he'll have black fans.
If he pulls a some wack stuff he'll have no black fans. IMHO he's a
lot better than mc mallet.
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RICHH
|In article <61...@netnews.upenn.edu> ste...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (RICHH) writes:
|>"Battle Victorian" should read "valedictorian".
|>But you knew that already.
|>
|>RICHH
|
|Yea, we knew it. You also got a couple of others wrong. But I'm not
|counting.
|
Marky Mark my not be the best rhyme master but it works for his style.
|
|I don't like the New Kids (bleck! 8-( ) but I like Marky Mark and the
|Funky Bunch. He is not another Vanilla Ice (bleck!), so far that is.
|WILDSIDE does have a message.
I actually am a fan of his also. Despite all his poses, all the
excruciating rhymes, etc. I do believe he's sincere; his heart's in
the right place.
As for Battle Victorian, I actually *prefer* that. Don't know why.
Just do.
|
|If you are wondering, yes I am a true rap fan. PE, Cube, BDP, EPMD,
|Paris, Ice T, CMW, are all favorites of mine.
Naughty By Nature's tops over this way. Treach kills me.
|
|As long as Marky Mark stays true to the game he'll have black fans.
|If he pulls a some wack stuff he'll have no black fans. IMHO he's a
|lot better than mc mallet.
Agreed.
Rich
Kevin Womack
of somebody else's song. I heard the orginal version (exact same shit, different Bostonian rapper) here in Boston a couple of months ago.
Robert Krajewski
Upon It" that deals with the Stuart fiasco. But the words are quite
different.
Kevin Womack
Mark had remade this song. I hadn't yet heard Marky Mark's version; but, when
I did, the music AND lyrics were the EXACT SAME. Evidently, the dude sold the
song to Marky Mark or something. But I'm 100% sure that this was a COMPLETE
copy. I can't remember the rapper's name, but he is some local Boston unknown.
RICHH
|Well, there is a song by Ed O.G. and the da Bulldogs called "SpeakUpon It"
|different.
Any good?
Rich
Jason Giddens
> Marky Mark is not as true to the game as you think. Wild Side is a remake
> of somebody else's song. I heard the orginal version (exact same shit, diffe
The original version was by Lou Reed and was released sometime in the
early 70's..
bbs.Ja...@jwt.uucp
Kevin Womack
I'm sure that little melody in the background is probably sampled from
Lou Reed's version; but I don't believe Lou Reed ever tried to flow to it.
ShadowKing
Well, if it is a 100% copy, I am sure he would have credited
that rapper in the lyrics. As far as I can remember, the song
is credited to Donnie and Mark Wahlberg, and perhaps someone else.
By the way, I just Marky last night in Fairfax, VA.
Thought he was pretty good actually. Quite an
experience, since I have only gone to heavy metal concerts
before...(I got dragged into this one.....glad I went though)
seeya
Chris
gi...@wam.umd.edu
Kevin Womack
know is that somebody else recorded that corny piece of shit before him.
End of story.
Kent L Shephard
>kw...@harvey.GTE.COM (Kevin Womack) writes:
>
>> Marky Mark is not as true to the game as you think. Wild Side is a remake
>> of somebody else's song. I heard the orginal version (exact same shit, diffe
>
>The original version was by Lou Reed and was released sometime in the
>early 70's..
> bbs.Ja...@jwt.uucp
Couldn't be exactly the same since the Boston stuff didn't happen until a
couple of years ago.
Kevin Womack
EXACT SAME SONG. I don't know WHEN it was done or the NAME
of the guy who did it (though I know it wasn't Lou Reed) , but SOMEBODY ELSE RECORDED IT BEFORE MARKY
MARK. The lyrics and music were the SAME! The song was a RAP. Now I
don't know much about Lou Reed, but I know damned well he wasn't no RAPPER.
Spanky
You're right, Lou Reed didn't rap, but his version of the song was about
teenage kids running away to NYC, becoming prostitutes, street kids and the like.
Emily
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Steve Elias
his style was rapping way back in the 60s.
check out his tune "the original (w)rapper" on Mistrial.
also, his album New York has a lyrical style that sure
sounds like rap.
/eli
In article <80...@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM! cav...@emptier.Corp.Sun.COM (Spanky) writes:
!In article <14...@bunny.GTE.COM! kw...@harvey.GTE.COM (Kevin Womack) writes:
!!Man, how many times do I have to say this??? IT WAS THE
!!EXACT SAME SONG. I don't know WHEN it was done or the NAME
!!of the guy who did it (though I know it wasn't Lou Reed) , but SOMEBODY ELSE RECORDED IT BEFORE MARKY
!!MARK. The lyrics and music were the SAME! The song was a RAP. Now I
!!don't know much about Lou Reed, but I know damned well he wasn't no RAPPER.
!
!
!You're right, Lou Reed didn't rap, but his version of the song was about
!teenage kids running away to NYC, becoming prostitutes, street kids and the like.
!
!
!Emily
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Kevin Womack
more like bad singing (ala Bob Dylan).
Lazlo Nibble
> Now I don't know much about Lou Reed, but I know damned well he
> wasn't no RAPPER.
You're right . . . you *don't* know much about Lou Reed. Take a hint,
pick up a copy of TRANSFORMER and listen to "Take A Walk On The Wild
Side." You can't tell me that that track doesn't flow pretty damn good
for something that was cut while the Beatles were still together.
As for finding the original cut of "Wildside", I think the only way you'll
find out for sure is to hit all the rap- and dance-music oriented shops in
Boston and keep asking until you find out what the score is. It's pretty
obvious by now that nobody on the net knows about it.
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FRANKIE SAY CHOOSE LIFE
Kevin Womack
Mark REMAKE, I'm quite sure not many people know about it because:
a) this is not the kind of thing that tends to get out, and
b) the song ain't all that anyway, so who cares?
Bottom line: I sat in my car and listened to a Boston DJ (station WILD) explicitly state that the song was recorded by another rapper prior to Marky Mark. He then said, "Now, here's the real deal" and played the exact
Wildside that most of America believes Marky Mark recorded first. PERIOD!
Now for those who cannot accept this as truth, you can contact WILD and
make your own inquiries. As for me, I'm through with Marky Mark, Lou Reed
and the Wildside...peace!
Gregory V. Battle
Wsup net people. You down with the Fushnickins or what? Never heard
of em yet? "Ring the Alarm" is a slamming example of the TRUE
reggae/dub/chat influence in modern hip hop. These brothers are
MAD good. They are the product of mixing a Kung-Fu flick with some
Brooklyn B-Boy and a whole lotta reggae flavor. Basically, if you
took Shabba Ranks and made him speak discernable English (not a diss
folks, I LOVE Shabba :), you'd have the Fushnickins. Get the
single because they have a whole slew of remixes including a very
nice dance-hall number. Peace for the 90's................
G-BAttle
Groovy Productions in '92
Speaking of Groovy Productions, my group is performing here, at
Princeton on the 9-12 for the dance production Body Hype, and at
Princeton High School on the 31st. If you're around here, check it
out, or at least listen to WPRB 103.3 on Thursday nights for the
RAW DEAL rap show. I'll be all over that shit, nicely.........:)
(WPRB can be heard all over New Jersey, Philadelphia, Northern Delaware,
and the outskirts of NYC, so check it out and request at will, PEACE)
Andrew Goodwin
Yo Gee,
Over here in England we are definatly down wid' the Fu-snickens
I Heard 2 Remix tracks of Ring The Alarm about a month ago..and
they both slam. They gets props...pure fire.
I'm out. Gumby.
Kenneth R Crudup
>Basically, if you took Shabba Ranks and made him speak discernable English
>(not a diss folks, I LOVE Shabba :), you'd have the Fushnickins.
Hmph. I still don't know but maybe 1/4'th the words to "House Call"....I
have to get one of my W.I.'n friends to translate for me. As much as they
played it, still can't make it out.... :-)
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lou Reed's "Wild Side" in their track "Can I Kick It?" from
People's_Instinctive_Travels_and_the_Paths_of_Rhythm. Much more tastefully done
in the sampling dept. than MickeyMarkeyMo, IMHO.
Haven't seen anyone mention this one yet... I was kinda suprised.
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WERLING
Yes, thank you, we get the point.
Andrew Werling awer...@nmsu.edu
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>I've heard a couple of Lou Reed pieces, and IMHO, his "rapping" sounds
>more like bad singing (ala Bob Dylan).
The point is not singing. When they sing, the emotion is real, and I
therefore like it. Your branding of "bad" upon Lou Reed and Bob Dylan
is so uncalled-for it makes me want to giggle up buckets of vomit. If
you've only heard a couple of Lou Reed pieces, you really have no call
to use judgmental language.
Andrew Werling awer...@nmsu.edu
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WERLING
> In article <1992Jan7.2...@Princeton.EDU> gvba...@hue.Princeton.EDU (Gregory V. Battle) says:
> >Basically, if you took Shabba Ranks and made him speak discernable English
> >(not a diss folks, I LOVE Shabba :), you'd have the Fushnickins.
> Hmph. I still don't know but maybe 1/4'th the words to "House Call"....I
> have to get one of my W.I.'n friends to translate for me. As much as they
> played it, still can't make it out.... :-)
Ten times worse is "Mr. Tung Twista" by Tung Twista. This guy can
articulate words faster than anyone I've heard. Of course, it's more
fascinating than entertaining. I hope he's got talent beyond
rapid-fire articulation.
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rivers, lakes, and seas, and the farmer upon the land for his existence,
so does mankind in general depend upon the beauty of the world about him
for his spiritual and emotional existence." --Ansel Adams, 5-9-80
Kevin Womack
> In article <14...@bunny.GTE.COM> kw...@harvey.GTE.COM (Kevin Womack) writes:
>
>
> Yes, thank you, we get the point.
>
then SHUTTHEFUCKUP!!!
> Andrew Werling awer...@nmsu.edu
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Kevin Womack
to "giggle up buckets of vomit." I don't give a damn HOW much they feel it,
neither man can blow.
Anyway, I was not knocking Lou Reed and Bob Dylan as ARTISTS. I just
refuse to recognize this dude as a rapper.
WERLING
(Replying to my flame of his insulting the music of Lou Reed and Bob Dylan)
--Knock the wild flappings of rage you have out of your posting
method.
--You might consider using fewer capital letters in your posts and a
few more coherent remarks.
--I didn't miss the point. I know you do not think Lou Reed is a
rapper. I know you think they cannot sing. I think he can. I
thought you were being elitist and a bit immature in your "refusal."
I got your point. Trust me.
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Sexual possibility of the day: Getting group-sexed by a gang of dolphins?
Kevin Womack
it's obvious that we will never agree on the merits of lou reed as a singer
or rapper. however, if you want to contend my level of maturity, we can take
this up outside of alt.rap.
Sean 'Bandwidth' Ryan
>hey now. you're both wrong ;). Lou Reed is a rapper, alright.
>his style was rapping way back in the 60s.
>check out his tune "the original (w)rapper" on Mistrial.
A pathetic excuse for a song, to be sure...
Yeah, that "Sweet Jane" was sure a hot little rap, wasn't it? :-)
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Maybe you do need instructions on how to post...
As you can see, I have made use of the "Followup-To:" header and
inserted alt.flame in there, something you apparently felt was not
nearly as important a thing to do as was making me have to read your
piddling flame war.
Nuff said...
Sean 'Bandwidth' Ryan
>>
>> Yes, thank you, we get the point.
>
>then SHUTTHEFUCKUP!!!
Geez, what a real intelligent bunch of people...now I know why I tend to
avoid alt.rap for months at a time.