22 ways Judge Judy differs from "Dr. Laura"
Martha Hughes
>
> From the new issue of People magazine:
>
> 1. Judge Judy calls her job "some lark. Effortless. My stress level
> is way down. I open my eyes every day a happy person." And you
> believe her.
>
> 2. She's only 9 years younger than her husband...
>
> 3. ...who is also vigorously employed. "I had some trepidation with
> Jerry retiring," she admits, before he also got a TV show. "I didn't
> want him in my hair all the time."
>
> 4. She's a healthy-looking, mature woman who doesn't refer to herself
> as "cute" or "a babe." About her careeer, she says "I'm realistic.
> I'm not becoming Farrah Fawcett here."
>
> 5. She's a "bicoastal bubelah." Her fifth grandchild is on the way.
> She doesn't bother to note whether it's her biological grandchild or
> step-grandchild.
>
> 6. Her life "reveals a humble 'creature of habit' practicality that
> grounds [her] against prima donna power surges," according to People.
>
> 7. She does a 20-minute workout in 10 minutes and leaves it at that.
>
> 8. She hasn't changed her beliefs or her style for television.
> "That's no overnight metamorphosis," says Frank Argano, a co-worker at
> New York's family court and pal of 27 years. "It's exactly how she
> conducted herself here."
>
> 9. She has neither a business manager nor a talent agent.
>
> 10. She "grew up deeply attached to her parents and her Brooklyn
> roots," according to the story. She loved dancing with her dad and
> shopping with her mom. She "remains a markdown maven, 'laughing all
> the way to the outlet malls. I'm still not real big on retail,' says
> Judy. 'That doesn't change.'"
>
> 11. Her father, Murry, was a "fun-loving dentist whose office was at
> home," and her mom, Ethel, "ran his office, their lives, ran
> everything for the betterment of everyone" says Judge Judy's lifelong
> best friend Elaine Schwartz.
>
> 12. Judge Judy HAS lifelong best friends and workplace pals.
>
> 13. She was working full-time by the time her daughter and son were 5
> and 3, and she doesn't lie about it.
>
> 14. She left her first husband after 12 years of marriage when her
> kids were 9 and 7.
>
> 15. She met her present husband, Judge Jerry, 3 weeks after the
> divorce. Of him she fondly says, "Sometimes it just comes over you,
> an initial physical attraction, and that's what it was."
>
> 16. Judge Jerry was separated (for 4 years), but not divorced, at the
> time, and she doesn't lie about that either.
>
> 17. She helped raise his kids, too. The blended family "just clicked"
> says her stepdaughter, Nicole.
>
> 18. Judy and Jerry lived together, with the kids, for a year before
> they married. She says she proposed to him.
>
> 19. She fed her kids salami and milk. Together. When the principal
> of their religious school objected, she says she "found a kosher
> pizzeria and gave Adam [her son] a slice with thumb tacks and said
> 'Stick this above the radiator. By noon you'll have a hot lunch.' I
> didn't like my oven. Look, you won't get tall from McDonald's, but
> you won't die."
>
> 20. She was heartbroken when her father died, and her "grief tore into
> the marriage." She and Jerry divorced and remarried after a year
> apart. Neither marriage was a religious ceremony.
>
> 21. She is close to her adult kids AND her stepkids *AND* all their
> mates and all are benefiting from her new wealth. "Her greatest joy
> is seeing the kids and grandkids thriving--and 'giving with a warm
> hand, while I'm alive to see them enjoy it,'" says Judy.
>
> 22. People don't hate her.
I do like Judge Judy. I think she has a passion and love for what she
does. She has patience, considering that some of the people on the show
are extremely dim.
M is for Malapert
Truble2301
>
You had me going until this one. I do hate Judge Judy. She's a vicious,
nasty, pre-judgmental shrew. Bad qualities for a judge . . . and as a lawyer
for the past fifteen years, I do have some basis for comparing judges. She's a
bad one.
Tammy
Mark Probert
Have you ever appeared in her courtroom???
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M Treborp
>>22. People don't hate her.
>>
>
>You had me going until this one. I do hate Judge Judy. She's a vicious,
>nasty, pre-judgmental shrew. Bad qualities for a judge . . . and as a lawyer
>for the past fifteen years, I do have some basis for comparing judges. She's
>a
>bad one.
Judge Judy's, Judge Jerry, is a friend of mine.
You seem to have a proglem diffrentiating between good judging and good
theatre.
I suggest you spend a few months in the bowels of Manhattan Family COurt and
ask the regulars what they think.
Truble2301
>Have you ever appeared in her courtroom???
>
No, I don't practice in New York . . .but I'm not sure what appearing in her
courtroom has to do with being able to observe that her behavior in the tv
courtroom is histrionic and entirely inappropriate. I know it's all about
ratings, but she's still a bad judge.
Tammy
Truble2301
>Judge Judy's, Judge Jerry, is a friend of mine.
I assume you meant to say Judge Judy's husband, Judge Jerry? If so, nothing
like an unbiased opinion.
>You seem to have a proglem diffrentiating between good judging and good
>theatre.
You seem to have a problem spelling, as well.
>I suggest you spend a few months in the >bowels of Manhattan Family COurt and
>ask the regulars what they think.
If she was doing such a wonderful job in the "bowels," perhaps she should have
stayed there. I understand many viewers think she's terrific, but then many
people look up to Dr. Laura as well. She seems to entertain a lot of people and
certainly goes a long way towards reinforcing the negative view most people
have of the legal profession. As if we don't get enough help from Johnny
Cochran, Hillary & Bill Clinton, and Gerry Spence . . .
Tammy
Patrick of Las Vegas
> >Have you ever appeared in her courtroom???
> >
>
> No, I don't practice in New York . . .but I'm not sure what appearing in
her
> courtroom has to do with being able to observe that her behavior in the tv
> courtroom is histrionic and entirely inappropriate.
Having moved to Las Vegas from NYC (Brooklyn, to be specific) just about six
months ago, I can attest that the courtrooms in the Big Apple are just as
frightening and aggressive as the streets of the Bronx. If the judges of
that jurisdiction were not as equally aggressive as the people who come into
them (including the attorneys), there would be total and complete chaos.
Her show is a complete carryover from that venue.
You say her behavior is inappropriate. Which part? I think she her cutting
comments are often nothing short of brilliant. I particularly loved the one
case where the defendant, a female, showed up in a pair of Daisy Duke shorts
and a bikini top and Judge Judy asked, "Madam, this is a courtroom. Did you
not see the sign on the door or do you often mistake courts of law for the
local beach?" Or do you think it is inappropriate for judges to say, "If
you say one more word, I will throw you and your case out"?
> I know it's all about
> ratings, but she's still a bad judge.
Based on what? Because you do not like her attitude? If you take issue
with her ruling, please provide some examples of where she is abusing the
law.
Patrick of Las Vegas
Jim
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mtre...@aol.com (M Treborp) wrote:
> In article <19990919081810...@ng-fm1.aol.com>,
trubl...@aol.com
> (Truble2301) writes:
>
> >>22. People don't hate her.
> >>
> >
> >You had me going until this one. I do hate Judge Judy. She's a
vicious,
> >nasty, pre-judgmental shrew. Bad qualities for a judge . . . and as
a lawyer
> >for the past fifteen years, I do have some basis for comparing
judges. She's
> >a
> >bad one.
>
>
good
> theatre.
>
COurt and
> ask the regulars what they think.
>
hour, either professional or personal with Judy.
Victoria
Every way.
M Treborp
(Truble2301) writes:
>
>>From: Mark Probert
>
>>Have you ever appeared in her courtroom???
>>
>
>No, I don't practice in New York . . .but I'm not sure what appearing in her
>courtroom has to do with being able to observe that her behavior in the tv
>courtroom is histrionic and entirely inappropriate. I know it's all about
>ratings, but she's still a bad judge.
I see, so you have no idea how she is as a judge...but you do not like her TV
persona.
Children advocates cried the day she retired. She was a kids best friend.
Victoria
wrote:
>Having moved to Las Vegas from NYC (Brooklyn, to be specific) just about six
>months ago, I can attest that the courtrooms in the Big Apple are just as
>frightening and aggressive as the streets of the Bronx. If the judges of
>that jurisdiction were not as equally aggressive as the people who come into
>them (including the attorneys), there would be total and complete chaos.
>Her show is a complete carryover from that venue.
-snip-
Patrick, having moved from Brooklyn (went to Madison) out to Long Island, then
to Texas 6 years ago, NO PLACE in America is like our great city of New York.
It all pales to NYC and surrounding areas. I currently live in the bible belt
of Dallas where they actually do full Jesus hands raised praise before the City
Council meeting. I will never get used to it here, and if I move back to NY it
would be right back to Brooklyn, but welcome to the "rest of the country." It
is quite different than our NYC. Unfortunately.
Victoria
Truble2301
>I see, so you have no idea how she is as a judge...but you do not like her TV
>persona.
I'm evaluating her as a tv judge and she's lousy! As an example of what a
judge should be, she's pathetic. If she behaved on the bench as she does in
her "tv persona," as you put it, then she was a shitty judge. If you want me
to comment on how she actually behaved in family court from personal experience
(which wasn't even the topic), then you're right, I can't do that. Oooh, you
got me. Feel better?
>Children advocates cried the day she retired. She was a kids best friend.
Yeah, her and Dr. Laura, I guess.
Patrick of Las Vegas
> I'm evaluating her as a tv judge and she's lousy!
Based on what?
> As an example of what a
> judge should be, she's pathetic.
You mean depending on how you want a judge to be, right?
> If she behaved on the bench as she does in
> her "tv persona," as you put it, then she was a shitty judge.
From the people in the legal community in NYC that I know and who were
attorneys in the courtroom, she was pretty much the same way you see her.
The only people I know that really disliked her were the people she slapped
down in the courtroom.
> If you want me
> to comment on how she actually behaved in family court from personal
experience
> (which wasn't even the topic), then you're right, I can't do that. Oooh,
you
> got me. Feel better?
Actually, I do not feel better as I am still waiting for you to tell me
exactly what the problem is you have with her.
> >Children advocates cried the day she retired. She was a kids best friend.
>
> Yeah, her and Dr. Laura, I guess.
You guess wrong.
Patrick of Las Vegas
TJ
Patrick of Las Vegas wrote:
>
> Truble2301 <trubl...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm evaluating her as a tv judge and she's lousy!
>
> Based on what?
>
> > As an example of what a
> > judge should be, she's pathetic.
>
> You mean depending on how you want a judge to be, right?
I've had the good fortune to be in courtrooms presided over by some very
fine judges, universally acknowledged as such; not one of them carried
on like Judge Judy. JJ reminds me of a remark made about Tom Synder
before his talk show host days when he was still doing news: "He acts
as though the purpose of the news is to bring you him."
> > If she behaved on the bench as she does in
> > her "tv persona," as you put it, then she was a shitty judge.
>
> From the people in the legal community in NYC that I know and who were
> attorneys in the courtroom, she was pretty much the same way you see her.
> The only people I know that really disliked her were the people she slapped
> down in the courtroom.
Gee, Patrick, how did you get to know so many people who got slapped
down in her courtroom?
> > If you want me
> > to comment on how she actually behaved in family court from personal
> experience
> > (which wasn't even the topic), then you're right, I can't do that. Oooh,
> you
> > got me. Feel better?
>
> Actually, I do not feel better as I am still waiting for you to tell me
> exactly what the problem is you have with her.
>
> > >Children advocates cried the day she retired. She was a kids best friend.
> >
> > Yeah, her and Dr. Laura, I guess.
>
> You guess wrong.
Few of us have your vast experience with the legal system. You might
cut us some slack. A noblesse oblige sort of thing.
--
TJ
Patrick of Las Vegas
> I've had the good fortune to be in courtrooms presided over by some very
> fine judges, universally acknowledged as such; not one of them carried
> on like Judge Judy. JJ reminds me of a remark made about Tom Synder
> before his talk show host days when he was still doing news: "He acts
> as though the purpose of the news is to bring you him."
I do not doubt this. However, I think that to assume that a NYC judge is
just like a judge in, say, Omaha or Atlanta or Boise is a bit short-sighted.
> > From the people in the legal community in NYC that I know and who were
> > attorneys in the courtroom, she was pretty much the same way you see
her.
> > The only people I know that really disliked her were the people she
slapped
> > down in the courtroom.
>
> Gee, Patrick, how did you get to know so many people who got slapped
> down in her courtroom?
Well, I do not. I should have said the "only people I know *of*.
My apologies for not being more clear.
> > > >Children advocates cried the day she retired. She was a kids best
friend.
> > >
> > > Yeah, her and Dr. Laura, I guess.
> >
> > You guess wrong.
>
> Few of us have your vast experience with the legal system. You might
> cut us some slack. A noblesse oblige sort of thing.
What I know is what I know. Judge Judy has a rather fine reputation in NYC.
And, as I said, having known several lawyers who have been in JJ's courtroom
when she served in the NY Family Courts and the NY Supreme Courts, her
reputation is that of a tough-as-nails judge who really does care about
children and does not tolerate a lot of nonsense in her courtroom. I do
not believe that one has to have a J.D. and some-odd number of bar cards in
order to relate the reputation of a judge.
Patrick of Las Vegas
Weltanscha
>And, as I said, having known several lawyers who have been in JJ's courtroom
>when she served in the NY Family Courts and the NY Supreme Courts, her
>reputation is that of a tough-as-nails judge who really does care about
>children and does not tolerate a lot of nonsense in her courtroom.
I wouldn't think that "tough as nails" is a quality one would want in a judge.
- Dr. Tom
For a great set of links about "Dr." Laura "I'm a priest and my mission is to
help God perfect the world" Schlessinger, please visit:
iamsam...@my-deja.com
It should also be noted that she has the actual legal qualifications to
do her job, unlike certain "doctors"...