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Andrew

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Jul 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/8/96
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If I were to broadcast normal radio stuff, I mean stuff that COULD be
played on a regular radio station, how likely is it that the FCC would get
mad at me?

--

John Lentz

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Jul 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/8/96
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Good Question! I know of a unlicensed broadcaster who is currently
operating on the air to this day and he's been doing it for quite a few
years. An article written by the TV-Radio critic of the local paper
talked about this guy's unlicensed broadcast station...and to this day
he's still on the air. I recall reading from the article that the FM
transmitter being used was an old on from a licensed college FM station.
So apparently this guy is using a FCC certified type transmitter. In fact
on the 4th of July he did a live remote broadcast from a park. This guy
sounds very professional and you can be fooled into thinking he is a
licensed operated station. But I know from all sources he isn't, he's not
even listed in the FCC database.

John L.

David Fiedler

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Jul 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/9/96
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In article <4rqbks$6...@peabody.colorado.edu>, pan...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Andrew) wrote:
-->If I were to broadcast normal radio stuff, I mean stuff that COULD be
-->played on a regular radio station, how likely is it that the FCC would get
-->mad at me?
-->

Never mind the FCC, wait till ASCAP and BMI get hold of you...


--
David (Dragon) Fiedler, Infobahn Warrior
Find me at http://www.innercite.com/~dragon/ or da...@infopro.com
A diplomat is a man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never
remembers her age.

Corona

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Jul 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/9/96
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In article <4rsorn$m...@harry.lloyd.com>, da...@infopro.com says...

>
>In article <4rqbks$6...@peabody.colorado.edu>, pan...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Andrew) wrote:
>-->If I were to broadcast normal radio stuff, I mean stuff that COULD be
>-->played on a regular radio station, how likely is it that the FCC would get
>-->mad at me?
>-->
>
>Never mind the FCC, wait till ASCAP and BMI get hold of you...
>
>
>--
>David (Dragon) Fiedler, Infobahn Warrior

Ya Ha Ha, He He He, Ho Ho Ho, Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off
-Corona

Phil Kane

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96
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In a message to All dated 07-10-96 14:29, Andrew wrote:

An> n> Message-ID: <4rqbks$6...@peabody.colorado.edu>
An> Newsgroups: alt.radio.pirate
An> Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder

An> If I were to broadcast normal radio stuff, I mean stuff that COULD be
An> played on a regular radio station, how likely is it that the FCC would
An> get mad at me?

If you are licensed as a broadcast station or are in compliance
with Part 15, no problem as far as the FCC is concerned.

If you are not licensed as a broadcast station or in compliance
with Part 15, you are in a heap of legal trouble with the FCC.

If you are talking about whether you can use copyrighted
material (music, etc), the issue of copyright payments does not
come under FCC jurisdiction.

It's that simple.


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Internet: phil...@toadhall.com (Phil Kane)
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Corona

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96
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In article <73.928...@toadhall.com>, phil...@toadhall.com says...

>
>In a message to All dated 07-10-96 14:29, Andrew wrote:
>
> An> n> Message-ID: <4rqbks$6...@peabody.colorado.edu>
> An> Newsgroups: alt.radio.pirate
> An> Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
>
> An> If I were to broadcast normal radio stuff, I mean stuff that COULD be
> An> played on a regular radio station, how likely is it that the FCC would
> An> get mad at me?
>
> If you are licensed as a broadcast station or are in compliance
> with Part 15, no problem as far as the FCC is concerned.
>
> If you are not licensed as a broadcast station or in compliance
> with Part 15, you are in a heap of legal trouble with the FCC.


In your WET DREAMS homeboy. You sound like a Communications Lawyer who
makes his money torting with the FCC or something.

The SIMPLE fact of the matter is that the airwaves belong to the American
Citizens. And if thousands of people across this great country want to
put 10watts 20watts 40watts 100watts, however many watts, on the air on
unused space on the FM dial, the FCC ain't a gonna do one damn thing about it.

So quit trying to scare people and go do something useful.
-Corona

ploni

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96
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Corona,

You are exactly right about Mr. Phil Kane, if that's his real name. He
used an assumed ID and hung out on the FIDONET FCC Echo for awhile. He
has been in bed with the FCC and is not to be trusted as a source for
any type of advice. He's straight FCC party line.

Get lost, Phil. You're a worthless piece of sub-human, FCC debris,
trying to discourage Americans from exercising their rights as granted
by the US Constitution. Why don't you go auction off some more of the
"public" radio spectrum, or something similar like deface the Statue of
Liberty.

Steve Quest

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Jul 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/14/96
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Corona wrote:
: In article <73.928...@toadhall.com>, phil...@toadhall.com says...
: > If you are not licensed as a broadcast station or in compliance

: > with Part 15, you are in a heap of legal trouble with the FCC.


: In your WET DREAMS homeboy. You sound like a Communications Lawyer who
: makes his money torting with the FCC or something.

: The SIMPLE fact of the matter is that the airwaves belong to the American
: Citizens. And if thousands of people across this great country want to
: put 10watts 20watts 40watts 100watts, however many watts, on the air on
: unused space on the FM dial, the FCC ain't a gonna do one damn thing about it.

You have struck upon the key, if _thousands_ of people... Right
now, MicroPower is so minority, the FCC can run rough shod over us and
nobody cares. Until the average Joe can walk into Radio Shack and
purchase an FM band transmitter, this movement will remain MINORITY....sq

--
-<squ...@cris.com>---------\ ( ( | ) ) Amendment1 Congress shall make
============================> /_\ no law abridging the freedom
MicroPower FM Broadcasting-/ /\_/\ of speech, or of the press.

Damon Z Cassell

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Jul 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/14/96
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Steve Quest (Squ...@cris.com) wrote:

: You have struck upon the key, if _thousands_ of people... Right


: now, MicroPower is so minority, the FCC can run rough shod over us and
: nobody cares. Until the average Joe can walk into Radio Shack and
: purchase an FM band transmitter, this movement will remain MINORITY....sq

Actually, the average Joe _can_ walk into a Radio Shack and buy an FM
band transmitter. I walked in and ordered my FM-25 through the
Unlimited catalog and had it in my hands in 4 days. I know what you
mean though; it would be nice if you could actually walk in and buy
a prefabricated FM transmitter at a halfway decent price.

Microbroadcasting has gained a lot of visibility over the past few years
and I think it will continue to do so until the general public is aware
of it's existance and the FCC and the NAB can no longer deny that it's
just a small "problem".

--
- Damon Cassell ----------
Northeastern University.

Shelter44

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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I'd eat the FCC for lunch...they are all intimidation and no action!

Phil Kane

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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Someone who though that he was so clever posted:


> In your WET DREAMS homeboy. You sound like a Communications Lawyer who
> makes his money torting with the FCC or something.

I am a communications lawyer who has a successful track record
of keeping his clients out of trouble with the FCC BEFORE bad
things happen to them - a lot easier than getting them out of
the quagmire after they fall into it and get covered with
"stuff".

> You are exactly right about Mr. Phil Kane, if that's his real name.

It certainly is - at least my name after it was "Anglicized".
We went through this all before in FIDO, didn't we?

> He used an assumed ID and hung out on the FIDONET FCC Echo for awhile.

I used ny ETHNIC or BIRTH or FAMILY name - take your choice -
which is not an assumed name because Ploni Almoni Kanafi is the
name I was born with --- and talk about using a no-brainer "assumed"
name...... look at YOUR origin line:

> as if you knew what
the name means....)

And I still am a full-time participant in the FIDO FCC Echo.

> He has been in bed with the FCC and is not to be trusted as a source
> for any type of advice. He's straight FCC party line.

Oh ... well, if moving back to the private sector after a long
stretch on the FCC staff is "in bed", than you have some strange
views.

My advice is still 1000% more accurate than any wannabee's who
has not spent one day dealing with the agency in any other role
but "violator", because I can interpret how they think and what
they are going to do and how to get one's goals using the system
rather than fighting it.

My "thing" is to help clients get what they want from a system
that I know very well. The times that I agree with the FCC on
their latest policy decisions are far less than those with which
I disagree, but that's another story, right??? Let's not
confuse the folks with facts......

Want an example of how I operate -- check the message that I
left for Jeremy Landsman ("Fireweed").



> Get lost, Phil. You're a worthless piece of sub-human, FCC debris,

When the message is unpleasant or the issues are against you,
it appears that all that's left is to resort to ad hominum
attacks (i.e. attacking the messenger). Why does it hurt so much
to confront the facts?

If I had your garbage mouth I'd call you a few names too but I
don't have to do those sort of things to make my points.

> trying to discourage Americans from exercising their rights as granted
> by the US Constitution.

In YOUR dreams this time .....

The Supreme Court has ruled in EVERY case on the point that
there is no "right" to run a radio transmitter without a
license. How much clearer can that be? The current attempt
to get them to change it will crash and burn like all the rest
have for the past sixty years. My gut feeling is that when the
Court of Appeals upholds the FCC again the Supreme Court won't
take it for hearing.

There is no more "right" to operate a radio transmitter in
violation of the law than to drive the wrong direction on the
freeway..... or are you advocating that as "a right granted by
the Constitution" as well??

> Why don't you go auction off some more of the
> "public" radio spectrum, or something similar like deface the Statue
> of Liberty.

What makes you think that I agreed with auctioning off the
spectrum in the first place? I was and still am one of the more
vocal opponents of that. But it's a done deed and we move on.

May you live in good health ......

Steve Quest

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Jul 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/20/96
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Damon Z Cassell (dcas...@lynx.dac.neu.edu) wrote:
: Steve Quest (Squ...@cris.com) wrote:
: : nobody cares. Until the average Joe can walk into Radio Shack and

: : purchase an FM band transmitter, this movement will remain MINORITY....sq

: Actually, the average Joe _can_ walk into a Radio Shack and buy an FM
: band transmitter. I walked in and ordered my FM-25 through the
: Unlimited catalog and had it in my hands in 4 days. I know what you
: mean though; it would be nice if you could actually walk in and buy
: a prefabricated FM transmitter at a halfway decent price.

The average Joe can purchase a _toy_, in a kit form. Most average
Joe's can't assemble the kit, and those that can, end up with a toy
transmitter, no more power than a Mr. Microphone. Cover about your house
and yard with an FM-25. ;) The unit needs modified, and amplified to be
useful as a MicroPower broadcasting transmitter, and THAT is what I was
saying, the average person can't purchase a plug-n-play rig...........sq

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