America: Sold Out
n9...@my-dejanews.com
America: Sold Out.
Let's face it boys and girls America has been sold out. The Senate
Subcommittee on Telecommunication nor the FCC gives a crap about you
or your "little cause" The fact is they will pass this "LPFM" purposal.
but this how it will be; only those of a educational, community
organization, or governmental will be able to apply for a license. (like
they can't do that now!) The FCC don't care about the real
Microbroadcasting group because the real microbroadcasting are Pirates
and the FCC has even stated they don't listen to pirates or radicals.
yes boys and girls the People of the United States has been sold out by
the All mightly dollar and it's people in the senate subcommittee and
the FCC which has been bought off by Lobbying groups like the NAB, CTIA,
and others. No longer do the people have a right not only to listen but
to use the radio Spectrum. The Spectrum is suppose to be accessable to
everyone who wishes to apply for a license. but the FCC has with the
help of the Senate Subcommittee has made it hard for people to obtain a
license. People like Billy Tauzin should be kicked out of there. I
really wonder if the people of louisanna knows that that piece of monkey
crap sold not only them down the river but America as whole down the
river, All for some money from his main supports the NAB. Here is a
little fact off the Subject. The courts has ruled that Section 301 is
constitutional.....but perhaps it is and prehaps it isn't. Section 301
states that radio signal must be licensed by the FCC. The courts has
ruled that "all radio signals cross the state lines". The FCC was
created in 1934 to regulate Interstate and foreign Commerce in
communication (47 USC 151) I asked Billy Kennard where it stated in the
United States Code and Code of the Federal Register where it states the
FCC has juridiction over Intrastate communication. The FCC wrote back
stating " There is none because the FCC does not regulate Intrastate
communication" The FCC has the power to regulate and license radio
(47 USC 301) and has been up held by the courts Red Lion Broadcasting Vs
FCC (1969) National Broadcastiong Company Vs. FCC (1943. but here's the
deal One, Thoses cases were based on the old version of section 301 long
before Section 301(a) was created (Section 301(a) states "from one place
in a state, territory or the District of Columbia to the same place in
the same state, territory or the District of Columbia" Therefore those
two cases would be invaild because they predate the change to section
301 which was in 1982. Therefore those cases in court should be invaild.
if the court agrees on those cases being vaild then here is something
else that need to be brought up Part 15 devices should be licensed then
according to Section 301 anyone wishing to use a apperatus fro emitting
a radio signal must be licensed. Since the FCC has the couts believe
that all radio signal cross they state line (which in reality don't)
then Part 15 device should be licensed. Now you will probably say that
there is a exemption but no because the FCC allows Part 15 devices is
because they according to the FCC don't cross the state line. On the FM
band the signal must be 250 mV per meter up to 3 meter which would cover
a house a yard. Bottom line is simply that all radio signals don't cross
the state line the factors for determining a radio signal should be
based on this formula. 1. Power output which is the Power of the
transmitter x power of the Antenna (DB) minus the loss in the coax. 2.
Height based on marconi's law "the higher the antenna the farther you
signal travel. 3. Frequency not all frequency operate the same some skip
like on the HF band and others are pure line of sight like in the
microwave band. So, a radio signal with 5 watts on 6 MHz. will talk over
all over the world while 5 watts on 6 Ghz you will be lucky to cross to
the other side of town. A antenna at 100 ft will travel farther then one
at 20 ft and that factor can get messed up if there is terrain in you
way. Power: your transmitter is running 10 watts and you coax loss is
2.5 per 100 ft and you have 100 ft of coax. thus by the time you signal
gets to your antenna you signal will be down to 7.5 watts or something
like that. This then is caculated with the DB gain of the antenna and
the height of the antenna giving you factor of your contour. The bottom
Line this belief that all radio signal cross the state line is a bunch
of crap.....the FCC has three things to regulate 1. interstate and
foreign commerce in communication. 2. interfernce with "interstate and
foreign commerce in communication" and i not talking here say either.
and 3. intrastate communication which is connected to interstate and
foreign commerce in communication and that is it...
that's it from me
Todd O'Dochartaigh N9OGL
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M Weiss
n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Spoken like a gentleman!
There is only one LAW, and that's for each man to live at his own expense.
If there's a frequency available in your neighborhood, and the goons down in
Washington won't grant you a license, then screw 'em. Lock, load, and
broadcast. I'm sick of the American people being pushed around by a group of
mutant feds. Why don't they go find a war overseas?
Mark
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>
>
>
>America: Sold Out.
>
>
> Let's face it boys and girls America has been sold out.
<snip>
The courts has ruled that Section 301 is
>constitutional.....
The Com Act of '82 supposedly gave the FCC intrastate jurisdiction. That act
has never been challenged and apparently, it never will be - at least not by an
attorney. My attorney, Larry Becraft, got thousands of FRNs to make the
challenge of intrastate jurisdiction. When it came time to make it in the
Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals late last year, Becraft suddenly refused to do
it. All attorneys are officers to the court. Corpus Juris Secundum Vol. 7, Sec.
4, says: When there is a conflict between serving the interests of his client
or serving the court, an attorney must serve the interests of the court.
From the Declaration of Independence: "He has erected a multitude of New
Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out
their substance."
>The FCC has the power to regulate and license radio
>(47 USC 301) and has been up held by the courts Red Lion Broadcasting Vs
>FCC (1969) National Broadcastiong Company Vs. FCC (1943.
Corporations are [artificial] creations of the government. It is not possible
for a corporation to claim Constitutional rights:
THE BELLIGERENT CLAIMANT
The privilege against self-incrimination is neither accorded to the
passive resistant, nor the person who is ignorant of his rights, nor
to one indifferent thereto. It is a fighting clause. Its benefits
can be retained only by sustained combat. IT CAN NOT BE RETAINED
BY ATTORNEY OR SOLICITOR. IT IS VALID ONLY WHEN INSISTED UPON BY A
BELLIGERANT CLAIMANT IN PERSON. The one who is persuaded by honey
words or moral suasion to testify or produce documents rather than
make a last ditch stand, simply loses the protection. Once he
testifies to part, he has waived his right and must on cross
examination or otherwise, testify as to the whole transaction. He
must refuse to answer or produce, and testify the matter in contempt
proceedings, or by habeas corpus.
District Judge James Alger Fee
United States v. Johnson 76 F. Supp. 538 (at page 540)
District Court, M.D. Pennsylvania Feb. 26, 1947
Moral: Never hire an attorney for anything important!
Note: USC 47 has never been enacted into positive law: Law actually and
specifically enacted or adopted by proper authority for the government of an
organized jural society. Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, page 1162.
If the FCC and its co-conspirators in the U.S. Just-us Department really gave a
damn about the REAL law, they would cite the Com Act of '34 when bring charges
(positive law). They can't afford to do that because Sec. 301 in the Act is
Constitutional - no intrastate jurisdiction.
http://www.kobres.com/documents/61StatL101/index.html
M Weiss
Lonnie Kobres wrote in message <7hiu4j$15...@drn.newsguy.com>...
Oh c'mon Lonnie, this is all meaningless when you're facing "dynamic entry"
by fed stormtroopers. It's nice legalese verbiage, and it might make a fed
hesitate on the first visit, but eventually they'll send their hit squads
out anyway.
Mark my words: every "constitutional" or "sovereign" unlicenced broadcaster
that is currently on the air and has resisted the FCC, WILL BE SMASHED,
WACO-STYLE, sometime in the next 2 years. The FCC is waiting for two
landmark cases to be decided in their favor, after which, they will go in
and do busts with impugnity.
It's a losing proposition to be on the air, if you have anything left in
life to lose. But if you don't have anything to lose, you have the
opportunity to send a strong message to the feds--a message as strong as the
bombing in Oklahoma--but without killing any innocent bystanders, kids in
daycare, etc., because the feds come to YOU. And on your property, you can
decide their fate. You can decide how much pain they suffer before they die,
or you can be so overkill that they won't know what hit them (somehow I
think that would be too merciful). Better that you become notorious, so that
they send in hundreds of storm troopers. More to die, and the mass killing
will get international media attention. Blow them all straight to hell,
where they belong. The tools are readily available. Imagine what 2000lbs of
propane gas can do when it explodes all at once. Such a blast knocks
helocopters out of the sky at hundreds of feet altitude, and can instantly
incinerate hundreds of men on the ground nearby the center of the blast. For
those with nothing left to lose, this is probably the simplest means of
providing "Mutually Assured Destruction". The feds have to be real stupid to
go in and try to take down a station that's set to explode when the owner's
life ends.
Anyone willing to point a gun at someone operating a radio transmitter
deserves to be terminated swiftly. What this nation has stooped to, using
SWAT teams to silence free radio, peanut-powered stations, is so absurd even
the industry pros are saying "enough already". This situation, as of Nov 19,
1997, has reached rediculous proportions. The trend began when that nutcase
entered the White House. One cannot help but to notice parallelism after
parallelism between the current president and events of war perpetrated
against average citizens. The madness has got to end, before America becomes
a war zone.
Lonnie Kobres
Oh c'mon yourself Mark, are you ASSuming that because I have stated the law for
the record that I think traitors in gov't have respect for that law? We Tampa
Three, of all people, can say with first-hand authority that the FCC is a rogue,
criminal enterprise of fantastic proportions. Where do you find anywhere that I
disagree with your below conclusions? Just pipe down bro!
At least one FCC commissioner himself realizes
the FCC operates oiutside the law:
http://www.kobres.com/documents/powell.html
n9...@my-dejanews.com
"M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
>
> n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> >
> >
> >America: Sold Out.
>
> Spoken like a gentleman!
> There is only one LAW, and that's for each man to live at his own
expense.
> If there's a frequency available in your neighborhood, and the goons
down in
> Washington won't grant you a license, then screw 'em. Lock, load, and
> broadcast. I'm sick of the American people being pushed around by a
group of
> mutant feds. Why don't they go find a war overseas?
>
> Mark
> The "Peg-legged" Bass Pig
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Well mark I tell you what, I applied twice for a licnese and both
time it was returned so your right SCREW THEM!!! I'm going on the air
without a License.
Todd N9OGL
n9...@my-dejanews.com
Hi Lonnie,
I asked Bill Kennard Chairman of the FCC where in the codes
federal registry and the United States Code where it stated the FCC had
juridiction over intrastate communication. The FCC Chairman responded
"there is none because the FCC has no juridiction over Intrastate
communication." So I wrote another letter asking the FCC to explain
section 301 they of course never replied. The Courts has always ruled
Section 301 is legal because according to the courts dating all the way
back to the 20's that all radio signal cross are interstate by natural.
Since the 20's the courts have up held it because they were told it was
a vaild case. In reality however this isn't true because radio signal
distance is based on the four elements 1. Power 2. Antenna Height 3.
Frequency 4. Propagation. Back in the 20's when the aguement that all
radio signal cross the state line was made The Understanding of how a
radio work was very small while today how radio works is a lot more
knowledge. The courts have not yet execpt the concept that not all radio
cross the state line. Section 301 is also legal on the grounds of the
first part which states the FCC has the athority to license all radio
emission within the comfinds of this act. Section 1 of the communication
act states "....for the purpose of regulating Interstate and Foreign
Commerce in communication by wire or radio...." So section 301 allows
the FCC to regulate Interstate and Foreign communication by wire or
radio and license it. but again section 301(a) states "from one place in
any state, territory, or the District of Columbia to another place in
the same state, territory, or the District of Columbia" again your
dealing with a idea that all radio signal cross the state line which is
traced back to the 20's. The Communcation Act of 1982 was errected by
the support of the Ham radio community as a legal way of getting out of
some problems they were having with the states like Antenna laws,
transmitters/recievers in their cars, and the worst of it TVI and CATVI
thats what got the thing passed to begin with. The Law passed say that
any TVI or CATVI was the sole juridiction of the FCC and that the states
nor the communities could pass laws to enforce FINES or stop amateurs
from transmitting. Before the law, Taylorville (where I live, here in
Illinois) passed a law making all radio transmissions of the Amateur or
Citizen Band had to remain on the outskirts of the community. The Law
was thrown out thanks to Comm Act of 1982. So the question that should
be brought up in court and proven in court is that all radio signal DO
NOT cross the state line.
Todd N9OGL
In article <7hiu4j$15...@drn.newsguy.com>,
Iczer One
Die With Your Boots On.
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Lonnie Kobres
Correct - and it is also true that "original intent" must be taken into
consideration when analyzing law. If you look at the Federalist/Anti-Federalist
papers it is clear that U.S. Const., Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 3 was written in order
for a third party (Federal Gov't) to arbitrate *substantive commercial disputes*
between entities located in two or more states. Just crossing a state line
doesn't get it. There must be a significant problem that arises from interstate
commercial activity. Speaking for myself, I guarantee you my station has
created no such substantive problem. Again, the corporate elite do not have any
respect for the law, nor of the original intent of the law.
Lonnie Kobres
>
>n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>> In article <7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
>> "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >America: Sold Out.
>> >
>> > Spoken like a gentleman!
>> > There is only one LAW, and that's for each man to live at his own
>> expense.
>> > If there's a frequency available in your neighborhood, and the goons
>> down in
>> > Washington won't grant you a license, then screw 'em. Lock, load, and
>> > broadcast. I'm sick of the American people being pushed around by a
>> group of
>> > mutant feds. Why don't they go find a war overseas?
>> >
>> > Mark
>> > The "Peg-legged" Bass Pig
>> >
>> > ^ ^
>> > _o^O-/ \
>> > (oo)_ ?)
>> > _/ )
>> > \_
>> >
>> > Build your own FM radio station! Details at:
>> > http://members.tripod.com/~AMN92
>> > To reply, remove XSPAM from address.
>> >
>>
>> time it was returned so your right SCREW THEM!!! I'm going on the air
>> without a License.
>>
>> Todd N9OGL
>
'nother ASSumption,
DE K4FWJ (Extra Class), P1-7T-4875 (1st Phone) --> Lonnie Kobres
JJ
>
> Hi Lonnie,
>
> I asked Bill Kennard Chairman of the FCC where in the codes
> federal registry and the United States Code where it stated the FCC had
> juridiction over intrastate communication. The FCC Chairman responded
> "there is none because the FCC has no juridiction over Intrastate
> communication."
<rest of stuff deleted>
Your are correct, the have no 'juridiction' over anything, I doubt they,
or anyone else, even knows what that is, do you? Now 'jurisdiction',
maybe so.
JJ
>
> In article <7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
> >
> <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > >
> > >
> > >America: Sold Out.
> >
> > Spoken like a gentleman!
> > There is only one LAW, and that's for each man to live at his own
> expense.
> > If there's a frequency available in your neighborhood, and the goons
> down in
> > Washington won't grant you a license, then screw 'em. Lock, load, and
> > broadcast. I'm sick of the American people being pushed around by a
> group of
> > mutant feds. Why don't they go find a war overseas?
> >
> > Mark
> > The "Peg-legged" Bass Pig
> >
> > ^ ^
> > _o^O-/ \
> > (oo)_ ?)
> > _/ )
> > \_
> >
> > Build your own FM radio station! Details at:
> > http://members.tripod.com/~AMN92
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> >
>
M Weiss
>Correct - and it is also true that "original intent" must be taken into
>consideration when analyzing law. If you look at the
Federalist/Anti-Federalist
>papers it is clear that U.S. Const., Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 3 was written in
order
>for a third party (Federal Gov't) to arbitrate *substantive commercial
disputes*
>between entities located in two or more states. Just crossing a state line
>doesn't get it. There must be a significant problem that arises from
interstate
>commercial activity. Speaking for myself, I guarantee you my station has
>created no such substantive problem. Again, the corporate elite do not
have any
>respect for the law, nor of the original intent of the law.
Ditto here too. And good point!
I proposed a standard for determining whether a signal is strong enough to
constitute interstate commerce. It's on my web page.
John Lentz
>
> In article <7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
> >
> <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > >
> > >
> > >America: Sold Out.
> >
> > Spoken like a gentleman!
> > There is only one LAW, and that's for each man to live at his own
> expense.
> > If there's a frequency available in your neighborhood, and the goons
> down in
> > Washington won't grant you a license, then screw 'em. Lock, load, and
> > broadcast. I'm sick of the American people being pushed around by a
> group of
> > mutant feds. Why don't they go find a war overseas?
> >
> > Mark
> > The "Peg-legged" Bass Pig
> >
> > ^ ^
> > _o^O-/ \
> > (oo)_ ?)
> > _/ )
> > \_
> >
> > Build your own FM radio station! Details at:
> > http://members.tripod.com/~AMN92
> > To reply, remove XSPAM from address.
> >
>
> time it was returned so your right SCREW THEM!!! I'm going on the air
> without a License.
>
> Todd N9OGL
>
> ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
I had this feeling that the same will probably apply to me also. I will
go thru the attempt of getting a license. If they refuse, then I'll go
ahead and sign on... at least I will have something for the courts if
they try to take me there, and show the court I applied for a license
and was refuse. Then the judge will rule in my favor and continue
broadcasting. At least that is what I hope will happen if I'm caught.
I'll need a good lawyer for this thou.... my intentions are GOOD and in
a civil manner.
-John L.
Ben
> n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > You know I'm sick of your crap of trying to correct my spelling and
> > grammar[,] but you know you and your little buddy David Gleason on
> > alt.radio.broadcasting can KISS MY ASS!! Sure I can't spell some words
> > and sure I have bad grammar. But I have something you two don't....the
> > Balls [balls] to voice my opinion in whatever mattter {matter] I feel. So you can keep
> > correcting my spelling and grammar all you want you piece of scum i'll [I'll]
> > continue to voice my view[,] so there!
> >
> > Todd
> >
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If you wanted to be really picky, you could also get rid of one exclamation
and and reduce the "...." down to "..." or "…".
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[snip]
<<For it is those people who sit back and "go with the flow" that has
allowed those out of control agencies to get away with screwing the people.>>
TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN!!!
And having such discernment is much more important
than having good spelling/grammer any day.
n9...@my-dejanews.com
simply the system is SCREWED UP! For it is those people who sit back and
"go with the flow" that has allowed those out of control agencies to get
away with screwing the people.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!
Todd N9OGL
>
> And there goes your ham license too.
>
n9...@my-dejanews.com
j...@no.net wrote:
> n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi Lonnie,
> >
> > I asked Bill Kennard Chairman of the FCC where in the codes
> > federal registry and the United States Code where it stated the FCC
had
> > juridiction over intrastate communication. The FCC Chairman
responded
> > "there is none because the FCC has no juridiction over Intrastate
> > communication."
>
>
> Your are correct, the have no 'juridiction' over anything, I doubt
they,
> or anyone else, even knows what that is, do you? Now 'jurisdiction',
> maybe so.
>
You know I'm sick of your crap of trying to correct my spelling and
grammar but you know you and your little buddy David Gleason on
alt.radio.broadcasting can KISS MY ASS!! Sure I can't spell some words
and sure I have bad grammar. But I have something you two don't....the
Balls to voice my opinion in whatever mattter I feel. So you can keep
correcting my spelling and grammar all you want you piece of scum i'll
continue to voice my view so there!
Todd
JJ
> >
>
> You know I'm sick of your crap of trying to correct my spelling and
> grammar[,] but you know you and your little buddy David Gleason on
> alt.radio.broadcasting can KISS MY ASS!! Sure I can't spell some words
> and sure I have bad grammar. But I have something you two don't....the
> Balls [balls] to voice my opinion in whatever mattter {matter] I feel. So you can keep
> correcting my spelling and grammar all you want you piece of scum i'll [I'll]
> continue to voice my view[,] so there!
>
> Todd
>
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Your actually getting better.
Buster
knowledge of technical needs in broadcasting. Seems like a good fit, eh?
B5
M Weiss wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Well mark I tell you what, I applied twice for a licnese and both
> >> time it was returned so your right SCREW THEM!!! I'm going on the air
> >> without a License.
> >>
> >> Todd N9OGL
> >>
> >> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> >> ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
> >
> >I had this feeling that the same will probably apply to me also. I will
> >go thru the attempt of getting a license. If they refuse, then I'll go
> >ahead and sign on... at least I will have something for the courts if
> >they try to take me there, and show the court I applied for a license
> >and was refuse. Then the judge will rule in my favor and continue
> >broadcasting. At least that is what I hope will happen if I'm caught.
> >I'll need a good lawyer for this thou.... my intentions are GOOD and in
> >a civil manner.
> >
> >-John L.
>
> You aren't going to win in court. The system is "biased" against the little
> guy without funds. You're ONLY hope of broadcasting without trouble from
> feds is to be in possession of a wide array of concealed weapons, which
> could be detonated during a raid or attempted raid, causing total
> incineration of the area, including all personnel on the scene. (You should
> not try this in a populated area, as such action will harm innocent
> neighbors who deserve to live in peace, free from tragedy like this).
> Governments rule by force and only listen to force. Anything less and all
> flags are white. Feds are people too. Many of them have families to go home
> to and they would prefer an easy bust, so they can be home in time for
> dinner. If they come to realize they may NOT come out of a confrontation
> alive, they may wisely choose a weaker target elsewhere.
>
> We all will apply for LPFM licenses, but I have the feeling that we will all
> be meeting in Hell one day, for the LPFM licenses are a fanciful dream that
> will never fly in the face of an industry so biased against it that will be
> promptly scrapped.
>
> Mark
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Jle...@toast.net wrote:
> n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > In article <7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> > "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >America: Sold Out.
> > >
> > > Spoken like a gentleman!
> > > There is only one LAW, and that's for each man to live at his own
> > expense.
> > > If there's a frequency available in your neighborhood, and the
goons
> > down in
> > > Washington won't grant you a license, then screw 'em. Lock, load,
and
> > > broadcast. I'm sick of the American people being pushed around by
a
> > group of
> > > mutant feds. Why don't they go find a war overseas?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > The "Peg-legged" Bass Pig
> > >
> > > ^ ^
> > > _o^O-/ \
> > > (oo)_ ?)
> > > _/ )
> > > \_
> > >
> > > Build your own FM radio station! Details at:
> > > http://members.tripod.com/~AMN92
> > > To reply, remove XSPAM from address.
> > >
> >
both
> > time it was returned so your right SCREW THEM!!! I'm going on the
air
> > without a License.
> >
> > Todd N9OGL
> >
> > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> > ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
>
> I had this feeling that the same will probably apply to me also. I
will
> go thru the attempt of getting a license. If they refuse, then I'll go
> ahead and sign on... at least I will have something for the courts if
> they try to take me there, and show the court I applied for a license
> and was refuse. Then the judge will rule in my favor and continue
> broadcasting. At least that is what I hope will happen if I'm caught.
> I'll need a good lawyer for this thou.... my intentions are GOOD and
in
> a civil manner.
>
> -John L.
>
To tell you the truth John, I applied for a license twice and both time
they were returned. the last time they sent it back they claim I didn't
file during the "file window" Which is a bunch of crap because they were
handing out low Power television station licenses and low power
television translator licenses. The FCC are a bunch of liars who do not
serve the public's intrest. I'm going on the air with my low Power
Television station if they want me they can come and get me. It is a
waste of time to apply for a license.
Todd
kt...@my-deja.com
n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <7host7$1...@newsops.execpc.com>,
> Jle...@toast.net wrote:
> > n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In article
<7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> > > "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >America: Sold Out.
Todd & John,
I own and operate a low power television station.
I worked hard and played by the rules to get a
license and build it. It wasn't easy and it
didn't happen overnight. I'm far from being rich.
I don't know anyone in Washington.
Reading your comments makes me sick. Do you guys
rob the bank if you get turned down for a loan.
Yes, using RF spectrum is a loan. Everybody has
to share it. The way you two are talking
indicates you need a CB radio, not a television
station. If I discovered your pirate operations I
wouldn't hesitate to turn you in. If anyone
reading this knows of any pirate broadcasters call
the Federal Communications Commission at
202-418-1630.
When you guys pirate you're saying that all of the
work I've put into this is just a joke. I'm not
laughing!
Kevin McKinnon
General Manager
KTSS-LP
870-722-5588
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
kt...@my-deja.com
n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <7host7$1...@newsops.execpc.com>,
> Jle...@toast.net wrote:
> > n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In article
<7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> > > "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >America: Sold Out.
kt...@my-deja.com
n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <7host7$1...@newsops.execpc.com>,
> Jle...@toast.net wrote:
> > n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In article
<7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> > > "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >America: Sold Out.
M Weiss
kt...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7ipvg7$rhg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <7i4oq0$ihd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> In article <7host7$1...@newsops.execpc.com>,
>> Jle...@toast.net wrote:
>> > n9...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article
><7hijs1$nsj$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
>> > > "M Weiss" <mwe...@XSPAMjavanet.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > <7hg43e$bn0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >America: Sold Out.
Hey pardner,
You have it all wrong. The airwaves belong to no one but those who exert the
brain power to make use of them.
Federal prohibition and "doctrine of prior restraint" are unconstitutional,
and fundamentally and morally wrong.
Imagine if a driver's license cost $60 million. That would be unfair
prohibition--yet driver's license are cheap and the freeways are so
overcrowded that cars keep crashing into eachother. The government allows it
because drivers earn more taxable income than those on foot.
At least with the airwaves, no PHYSICAL harm can ever be done to anyone
(provided REASONABLE care and precautions are exercised to prevent blockage
of emergency and aviation frequencies. However, the fiscal benefits to the
government are not obvious, hence they don't let the People use the airwaves
for a reasonable license fee.
It is NOT like armed robbery to exercise freedom of speech on your own
airwaves, because you are stealing NOTHING from anyone. YOU, through the use
of your mind and talent, are creating that carrier wave. You are not
hitching a ride on someone's satellite, stealing their bandwidth--you are
creating and using your OWN. That is NOT piracy.
What the FCC and their federal goons are doing is piracy. They have
absconded with the entire spectrum and use the threat of force and armed
robbery (yes, THEY are the robbers) to "confiscate" broadcasting equipment
they do not approve of.
You may not consider yourself rich, but if you make more than $7800
annually, you are "rich" in my book. The most basic broadcasting facility
costs more money than I have probably earned since 1926 over my entire
working careers.
YOU are the sucker here, a miserable, whining, whimp who won't do a damned
thing to stop this country from sliding into Communism and the New World
Order, run by greedy power mongering corporations who bought the politicians
out and use them as their strongarms to manipulate and coerce the people
into doing their bidding. If you had any American morals, you would write
the FCC and tell them and the congress to abolish this nonesense, and then
as a protest, don't renew your license.
With your attitude, if you turn in a "pirate", I wouldn't feel the least
sorrow for you if some "pirates" cut the guy wires to your tower the next
day. You deserve it, pal.
Mark
The "Peg-legged" Bass Pig
^ ^
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(oo)_ ?)
_/ )
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Subject: What I Have Learned From The Twentieth Century
Date: Thu, 27 May
6 good lessons... (the two most applicable listed here)
by: MIKE VANDERBOEGH
jdt...@juno.com
The John Doe Times
"Sic Semper Rodentia"
"A Letter From Hagood's Crossroads, Alabama"
"What I Have Learned From The Twentieth Century" (With
Thanks to Schoolmasters Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Benito
Mussolini, Mao Tse-Tung and Pol Pot for the Teaching.)
As an amateur historian of this sad century whose time
is almost up, I would like to reflect upon six lessons I
have learned in my studies. Folks who wish to live free and
prosperous in the next century would do well to understand
the failures of the last.
Lesson No. 1: If a bureaucrat, or a soldier sent by a bu-
reaucrat, comes to knock down your door and take you
someplace you don't want to go because of who you are
or what you think-- kill him. If you can, kill the
politician who sent them. You will likely die anyway,
and you will be saving someone else the same fate. For
it is a universal truth that the intended victims
always far outnumber the tyrant's executioners. Any
nation which practices this lesson will quickly run out
of executioners and tyrants, or they will run out of
liberty.
Lesson No. 2: If a bureaucrat, or a soldier sent by a bu-
reaucrat, comes to knock down your door and confiscate
your firearms-- kill him. The disarmament of law-abid-
ing citizens is the required precursor to genocide.
(Just replace "firearms" with "transmitters" and "genocide" with
"tyranny". )
John Lentz
Kevin,
I can see not being accepted a broadcast license for certain obvious
reasons like...
1. Frequency unavailable
2. Poor financial credits, or very low budget
But IF I were REFUSED a license because they don't care about what
type of programming I wish to carry, then so be it. I'll go on the air
regardless. The FCC has no right to refuse giving one a license if they
don't care what type pf programming I carry. It is a violation of free
speech.
I just had an argument a couple weeks ago with an FCC official
concerning this. Finding out what type of programming I would carry
(religion and patriotic programming) someone told me that because of my
programming content that "I don't deserve to have a station". I will
attempt to apply for a license and see what happens. They better NOT
rate it on programming content or they can be sued for violation of
Freedom of Speech.
-John L.
Boomerlake
>Reading your comments makes me sick. Do you guys
>rob the bank if you get turned down for a loan.
>Yes, using RF spectrum is a loan. Everybody has
>to share it. The way you two are talking
>indicates you need a CB radio, not a television
>station. If I discovered your pirate operations I
>wouldn't hesitate to turn you in. If anyone
>reading this knows of any pirate broadcasters call
>the Federal Communications Commission at
>202-418-1630.
Leave the unlicensed stations alone, if you don't know of any interfering
with the frequencies that you use. And if they are, why not first be neigborly
and civil enough to complain about interference trouble to the unlicensed
broadcaster? Why make a federal case out of a station that may be as low as
one watt?
kt...@my-deja.com
Jle...@toast.net wrote:
> kt...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Todd & John,
> >
> > I own and operate a low power television station.
> > I worked hard and played by the rules to get a
> > license and build it. It wasn't easy and it
> > didn't happen overnight. I'm far from being rich.
> > I don't know anyone in Washington.
> >
> > rob the bank if you get turned down for a loan.
> > Yes, using RF spectrum is a loan. Everybody has
> > to share it. The way you two are talking
> > indicates you need a CB radio, not a television
> > station. If I discovered your pirate operations I
> > wouldn't hesitate to turn you in. If anyone
> > reading this knows of any pirate broadcasters call
> > the Federal Communications Commission at
> > 202-418-1630.
> >
John,
If you are really serious about broadcasting I would encourage you wait
for your chance to get a license just as we had to wait. And boy did we
have to wait. I would hope that your reason for getting a license would
be to serve the overall community you're in. This is the reason the
class of station was created, and I'm all for that.
LPTV stations can serve that purpose in an endless number of ways. The
FCC has no rules about what can or can't be aired. If you want to air a
program promoting communism, satanism or whatever, as a station operator
you may. I hope you wouldn't, but there are no rules to prevent it.
There are also no rules concerning freedom of speech that will prevent
you from getting a license. I know, I've been through the application
process 3 times, all successfully.
The only reason you can't apply for a station at this time is because of
a freeze on filing windows while TV channels are being rearranged for
digital transmissions. Technology is moving ahead and broadcasters are
fighting to keep up.
Now I realize that the FCC has issued some licenses during the freeze
via STA's(Special Temporary Authority). I know a station that got a
license by this method because it was able to show a great need for the
service in the community. This is the only thing I can imagine you are
referring to as a possible violation of your freedom of speech. Do a
number of people in your community want the kind of service you're
wanting to offer? This is what's important to the FCC. If you could
show that there is a need for your service they might expedite your
application. Otherwise, you'll just have to do like we did; wait for a
filing window. We are currently waiting for another window to modify
our station.
Don't blow it all by pirating. The FCC does have a policy of not
issuing licenses to anyone convicted of operating a pirate facility. Be
patient. Good things come to those who wait, and then work their buts
off.
Good luck,
Kevin McKinnon
KTSS TV-55
870-722-5588
ke...@ktss.com
John Lentz
Its the LAST thing I want to do is pirate. Just sitting back waiting
about the Low Power radio proposals for now as to see what will happen.
Kinda irate about someone identified from the FCC telling me that "I
cannot broadcast patriotic or right wing political" programming when I
can't help hearing the sex and violence on TV today, and on the radio
rock music with sexually explicit taste in it, or EVEN Howard Stern!!!
It even gripes me that CBS won't ditch Howard Stern after the comments
he made on the air a day after the Colombine High School shootings. I
guess then that means that CBS-TV officials don't care about the victims
and people involved in the Colorado shootings since foul mouth Howard
Stern is a "value" to CBS-TV in raking in the profits.
Now I hear other DJs, like the one in Baton Rouge, LA in which a student
who got suspended in school and being at home on one of his suspended
days called into a morning program telling the DJ about his suspension,
the DJ replied to all this by jokingly suggesting, "When you go back to
school take a gun and go after those who suspended you!". Course I don't
go along with what this DJ said, but what bugs me about this scenario is
that he GOT FIRED, just like Howard Stern should have gotten FIRED and
silenced from radio forever!
Anyways.....I'm being patient on the Low Power proposals...and because
of the delay in filing comments whether they are to our advantage or
not...its hard to say...but I still haven't sent in my comments. I have
most of them completed, but since they tacked on another delay I can
still hold onto them and add a few more before I send them out in late
July.
-John L.
n9...@my-deja.com
Hello kevin,
First off I apply twice for a license and got the run around from the
FCC. The FCC is here to serve the public intrest and I my humble opinion
the FCC does not serve the public intrest. Secondly I really didn't have
to fill the form out to begin with because the form for low power
television (form 346 or something like that) does not have a proper OMB
number which violates the Paper Reduction Act. Next, My applications
were returned because there was no filing window. yet, at the same time
they were handing out low television translators, low power Television
Boosters, and low power television licenses out left and right so screw
the FCC. Bill Kennard also told me in a email letter that the FCC has
only juridiction over INTERSTATE AND FOREIGN COMMUNICATION so my signal,
being only 8 watts on UHF will not cross the state line and is therefore
not in the FCC juridiction and finally Go ahead and turn me in because
I'm going on the air without one...I'm going on the air to serve my
communites intrest. So go ahead and call the FCC...if they shut me down
it will show they don't serve the public intrest. Because shutting it
down will hurt this community which has no local television service.
Todd O'Dochartaigh N9OGL
624 East Main Cross
Taylorville, Illinois 62568
> Todd & John,
>
> I own and operate a low power television station.
> I worked hard and played by the rules to get a
> license and build it. It wasn't easy and it
> didn't happen overnight. I'm far from being rich.
> I don't know anyone in Washington.
>
> Reading your comments makes me sick. Do you guys
> rob the bank if you get turned down for a loan.
> Yes, using RF spectrum is a loan. Everybody has
> to share it. The way you two are talking
> indicates you need a CB radio, not a television
> station. If I discovered your pirate operations I
> wouldn't hesitate to turn you in. If anyone
> reading this knows of any pirate broadcasters call
> the Federal Communications Commission at
> 202-418-1630.
>
> When you guys pirate you're saying that all of the
> work I've put into this is just a joke. I'm not
> laughing!
>
> Kevin McKinnon
> General Manager
> KTSS-LP
> 870-722-5588
>
Mark Walsh
> I own and operate a low power television station.
> I worked hard and played by the rules to get a
> license and build it. It wasn't easy and it
> didn't happen overnight. I'm far from being rich.
I am glad that someone is able to make use of the LPTV rules.
Sadly, there does not exist a parity in FM radio broadcasting.
> Reading your comments makes me sick. Do you guys
> rob the bank if you get turned down for a loan.
> Yes, using RF spectrum is a loan. Everybody has
> to share it.
Close; the RF spectrum is actually a public trust, and if it is
going to be regulated, that should be done in a fair and
equitable manner. Sadly, no such "license" exists for LPFM
today; the FM broadcasting airwaves have by force become
the property of the rich and powerful. I sincerely hope that
Mr. Kennard doesn't get beat up in a back alley (speaking
metaphorically here) by some NAB cronies for his NPRM...
> If I discovered your pirate operations I
> wouldn't hesitate to turn you in. If anyone
> reading this knows of any pirate broadcasters call
> the Federal Communications Commission...
Government intervention is the worst possible way of
dealing with the problem. Wouldn't it be funny if LPTV
was illegal and LPFM was not? How would that feel?
> When you guys pirate you're saying that all of the
> work I've put into this is just a joke. I'm not laughing!
I disagree; I am very happy to see folks making use of the LPTV
licenses, but none exist for LPFM. Instead of whining, how
about taking a read of the NPRM?
Mark Walsh ***** ma...@km6xu.com ***** http://www.km6xu.com