Best/Worst CBC Hosts
shawnews
and see what a range there is in quality and competence.
For example, there are guys like Bob McDonald, of Quirks and Quarks, who is
highly articulate and intelligent. Or Michael Enright who converses easily
with a wide range of guests. Both are top quality.
And then, on one of its formerly top public affairs programs, Cross Country
Checkup, CBC allows Rex Murphy to cough and hack in our ears, and to
punctuate his questions with throat clearing. Rex is an intelligent guy, but
his on-air mannerisms hide it well. On CCC quality takes a nose dive. It
wouldn't be so bad if the guy was articulate, or could resist the temptation
to explain to us why he is asking a particular question.
I am sure there are other examples of this high quality/low quality range.
Why is it so hard for CBC to maintain quality? Is Canada that short of
talent?
Leach
> It's interesting to compare the various on-air personalities at CBC radio
> and see what a range there is in quality and competence.
>
> For example, there are guys like Bob McDonald, of Quirks and Quarks, who is
> highly articulate and intelligent. Or Michael Enright who converses easily
> with a wide range of guests. Both are top quality.
In your opinion! Enright enjoys the sound of his own voice too much,
in my own opinion.
He has a very annoying habit of interrupting live coverage of events
with his own interpretation -- he needs to wait until the people who
are giving out the material first-hand are done speaking. Example is
the Columbia disaster coverage; Enright would speak over the NASA press
conferences at some of the worst possible times. Bits and pieces
of broken radios would litter my house if he was on any more than
he is.
> I am sure there are other examples of this high quality/low quality range.
> Why is it so hard for CBC to maintain quality? Is Canada that short of
> talent?
Because no single set of presenters will be acceptable to everyone.
You see that as high/low quality. Others do too, but for different
reasons.
Others might hate The Current, for example. I think it is the best
show they have going right now. Ms Tremonti can kick ass unmercifully,
and usually does it exactly when I would like to see it happen.
I can forgive a lot of on-air habits if the interviewer is paying
attention, and asks good questions. That is what matters more.
The few times I have listened to CCC, Rex Murphy did seem to be
on the ball, even though he needs to work on getting to the point.
--
Leach
Kathleen Ann Roczkowskyj
(I stopped listening to AIH when Enright was the host), but quality
control does appear to have gone out the window. For example, the host of
the local afternoon show here actually started to cry on air while
reading a shmaltzy reply to one of their MANY shmaltzy contests. It was
embarrassing. The guy who does the sports makes an allegedly witty comment
about every item on the sports news, teases the host about her sports
opinions, and says "ciao" when he finishes. It's amateur hour here in the
hinterland. My worry: these people will get the national shows when
Tremonti, etc. retire. Then we'll really have something to complain about.
Kathy Roczkowskyj
Vancouver
Leach
You're right, forgivable only up to a certain point.
--
Leach
AEB
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This my opinion almost to a tee. Catherine Gretsinger, host of the afternoon show, is saccharine, Chris Robinson,
director (I think, some such thing anyway) and sports guy, too annoying for words. It all we've got. At least we have
Rick Cluff (sp) and Mark Forsythe. Try living in the north, we are so unlucky as to have our own morning show, gag!
Annette
pete
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[about Vancouver Afternoon Show]
The Golden Age of the Afternoon Show was between about '76 -'82, when
Patrick Munroe and Anne Petrie co-hosted. It was absolutely first
class radio, intelligent, articulate, witty, whimsical, engaged and
engaging. Two intelligent and knowledgeable people spinning off
each other, backed by a formidable research staff and an admirable
stable of regular commentators. But of course, in those days, there
was a budget.
--
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vincent@triumf[munge].ca Pete Vincent
Disclaimer: all I know I learned from reading Usenet.
Psycho Psycho
dumbest woman on radio and certainly the most annoying.
AC Morphy
(pete) wrote:
> on Thu, 17 Apr 2003 23:22:35 GMT, AEB <****@yahoo.com> sez:
> `
> ` "Kathleen Ann Roczkowskyj" <roc...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote
> in message news:b7lrgv$42k$1...@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
>
> [about Vancouver Afternoon Show]
>
> The Golden Age of the Afternoon Show was between about '76 -'82, when
> Patrick Munroe and Anne Petrie co-hosted. It was absolutely first
> class radio, intelligent, articulate, witty, whimsical, engaged and
> engaging. Two intelligent and knowledgeable people spinning off
> each other, backed by a formidable research staff and an admirable
> stable of regular commentators. But of course, in those days, there
> was a budget.
Was about to post the same thoughts! Anne Petrie did some feature stories
that have not come close in quality to recent offerings.
Another thought has come to me as I type this. Radio hosts now seem to be
giving listeners more of their personal information than in the past.
Sometimes it gets a bit much and I wonder if it's better not to know as it
could reveal a bias in their questions of a guest.
Ann
AEB
"shawnews" <daly_d...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:9zjna.141835$vs.15...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> It's interesting to compare the various on-air personalities at CBC radio
> and see what a range there is in quality and competence.
>
> For example, there are guys like Bob McDonald, of Quirks and Quarks, who is
> highly articulate and intelligent. Or Michael Enright who converses easily
> with a wide range of guests. Both are top quality.
>
Bob McDonald, in my opinion, is one of the worst hosts on the radio. He reads from a script and tries to act really,
really cool. Yawn! Sort of like that new DNTO hostess without the mostess. Saturday radio is like listening to
fingernails on a chalk board (exception: The House of course) Annette
Bobcat
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> ...Byng also did all the major "remote" broadcasts
> (royal visits, etc.), a nightly disc show, "Byng's Choice", and a
noon-hour
> kids' show, "The Small Types Show"...
Correction: it was called "The Small Types Club". BTW when Byng and June
left the show, they were replaced by two lesser (but good) hosts, Carr
Pecknold and Lorraine Thompson (who later married Knowlton Nash!)
Bobcat
remember one called "Audio", circa mid-50's to early 60's, on CJBC Toronto
back when it was the flagship English-language flagship station of the
Dominion Network? Its hosts were Byng Whittaker and June Dennis, two real
pros with excellent voices. Byng also did all the major "remote" broadcasts
(royal visits, etc.), a nightly disc show, "Byng's Choice", and a noon-hour
music, and drop-in paid guests every few minutes, including Morley
Callaghan, actor John Drainie who read Leacock, Dr. Leslie Bell (of the
all-female Leslie Bell Singers") etc. It ran weekdays from 9:20 am to noon.
Don't want to sound the plaint, "Those were the good old days", but dammit,
they were. This was a benchmark local CBC show.
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Bob Habercost said:
> Other people have posted names of hosts of local shows of the past. Anyone
> remember one called "Audio", circa mid-50's to early 60's, on CJBC Toronto
> back when it was the flagship English-language flagship station of the
> Dominion Network? Its hosts were Byng Whittaker and June Dennis, two real
> pros with excellent voices. Byng also did all the major "remote" broadcasts
> (royal visits, etc.), a nightly disc show, "Byng's Choice", and a noon-hour
> kids' show, "The Small Types Show". June was his able sidekick. Audio had
> music, and drop-in paid guests every few minutes, including Morley
> Callaghan, actor John Drainie who read Leacock, Dr. Leslie Bell (of the
>
and not the Dominion service.
The best and most loyal audience here was for Almanac with
Bill Bellman (later to CBC TV public affairs for years, and
founding CHQM radio system/network) and Alan Miller.
(The triumvirate of Bellman, Miller and weatherman Bob Fortune
ruled early Vancouver TV.)
The Happy Gang would end and Bellman would come on and everyone
at home or near a radio for lunch would tune in.
CJOR was part of the Trans-Canada Network and would host dramas
in its basement studios with Lister Sinclair, and John Drainie
for a while.
And as always at 10 o'clock the Dominion Observatory Official
Time Signal, the beginning of the long dash....
Several kids shows, with Ross Mortimer's Kiddies Karnival being
a general favourite on CJOR.
dani...@yahoo.com
Bing Whittaker.
And ...
Listenable radio really has a short history in Canada. It required
electricity, not a common thing in households thus the success of the
elder Ted Rogers Batteryless Radio (**see below on CFRB) at time when
running a radio on the battery meant taking it down every week to an
ironmongers or hardware store to get the glass bottle of lead and acid
recharged.
Radio's weren't that cheap at first, being several months money for
the poorer people. Ampflication was uneven so radios were put in corners
or in echoing washtubs.
It was the transistor and the new prosperity after the Second World War
that made radio more universal and ubiquitious, also the time when a
separate teen-age music culture evolved. [In the early fifties, many
stations had a set of youth hours (rock), usually late-night, while carrying on
with MOR (middle-of-the-road) programming during the day.
By this time the early 6 inch television were appearing and antennas were
sprouting to get far off "radio-with-pictures" in competion with radio and its
competitively filled wavelength bands.
For a lightweight listing of the Vancouver scene.
Linkname: Vancouver Broadcasters - Station History
URL: http://members.shaw.ca/vancouverbroadcasters/history.htm
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Much of the material on radio history would be in newspapers as some papers
had a radio columnist just as most have some tv columnist now. And all the
stations would be listed, with the programs and hours, sometimes in the next
town or across the U.S. border. Bill Gilmour was the Vancouver Sun's radio
columnist for a while and became the TV columnist as that became more popular.
But a good list of books for you to have your local library bring in for you via
Interlibrary Loan over the next couple of weeks is at:
Linkname: Canadian Radio History Books
URL: http://www.odxa.on.ca/archives/timelinebooks.html
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A selection of the early days from
Linkname: Canadian Broadcast Stations Timeline
URL: http://www.odxa.on.ca/archives/timelinebc.html
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Canadian Broadcast Stations Timeline (p3 of 12)
1936 The CRBC opened a station in Vancouver, which was taken over by
the CBC as CBR, subsequently CBU
Apr 12 J Frank Willis gave regular reports on the Moose River disaster
from Nova Scotia
Nov 2 Canadian Broadcasting Corp. (CBC) was founded to replace CRBC,
with Leonard Brockington KC as Chairman of the Board of Governors. It
became responsible for regulating all broadcasting and for
recommending to the Cabinet applicants which it felt qualified for a
licence
Dec 11 The first CBC station of 50 kW opened, CBF at Verchhres near
Montreal. The first women's series, Fimina
Dec 25 CBC opened CBL at Hornby, near Toronto
1938 Farm broadcasts started on the CBC French network - CBC
provincial school broadcasts started in British Columbia
Jul 29 CBC opened CBK at Watrous, SK
1939 Royal visit to Canada. Full French and English coverage over a
period of six weeks - Farm broadcasts started in English. Also
regional farm family series beginning with The Craigs in Ontario - CBC
Publications Branch was formed
Apr 8 CBC opened CBA at Sackville NB, the studios and transmitter
later relocating to Moncton
Sep Declaration of war
Dec 5 A CBC broadcasting unit consisting of R T (Bob) Bowman and
engineer Art Holmes, sailed for Britain with the First Canadian
Division
1940 Reni Morin was appointed Chairman of the Board of Governors of
CBC - CBC school broadcasts started in British Columbia and Nova
Scotia air
Oct 22 The first CBC low power relay transmitter (LPRT) CBRA at
Revelstoke BC went on the air
1941 The CBC network consisted of 9 stations, including 4 of 50 kW -
CBC national network broadcast of Churchill's address to the Canadian
Parliament. - Farm Forum programs were started on CBC English radio
and Radio-College in the French service.
Jan 1 CBC began its own English Network News Service, with Lorne
Greene as its first announcer - The North American Regional
Broadcasting Agreement (Havana Treaty) came into effect, and most CBC
frequencies were changed
1943 VOWN opened in Corner Brook, NF - CFGB opened in Goose Bay,
Labrador - Opening of Radio-Carabin, a French network variety series
1944 Howard B Chase was appointed Chairman of the Board of Governors
of CBC -
CBC Stage series started on CBC
Jan 1 CBC National Network was renamed the Trans Canada Network, with
6 CBC and 28 affiliated stations - The CBC Dominion Network was added,
with 1 CBC station CJBC (formerly CBY) in Toronto, and 34 affiliates.
It offered an alternative and usually lighter service, mainly in the
evening - The CBC French Network consisted of 3 CBC and 10 affiliated
stations
Sep 14 CBC opened CBH in Halifax
1945 A. Davidson-Dunton was appointed Chairman of the Board of
Governors of CBC
Feb 25 CBC inaugurated its External Service Radio Canada, using three
50 kW RCA short wave transmitters at the 316 acre Sackville site. The
station was completely and separately financed by Parliamentary grants
- Radio Canada inaugurated Czech, Portuguese and Spanish Services
Nov 9 Canada joined UN
1946 The comedy team of Wayne and Shuster joined CBC radio - The
first fishermen's broadcasts were broadcast in the Maritimes
Feb 8 CKPG opened in Prince George BC
May 27 CKSB opened in St. Boniface MB, adjacent to Winnipeg, in French
Oct 8 CBC opened VE9EV in Toronto, its first FM station, relaying CBL.
A second station opened in Montreal
1947
Feb The CBC conducted a demonstration of stereophonic sound, with the
Toronto Symphony Orchestra from Massey Hall, before an invited group
of radio engineers
Feb 18 CBO-FM opened in Ottawa
May 3 CFRA Ottawa was established by Frank Ryan
1948 The first publication of the weekly program guide CBC Times -
CBC opened CBX in Edmonton - CFRN-FM opened in Edmonton Mar CJOB-FM
opened in Winnipeg
Jul 1 CBC opened CBW in Winnipeg
1949 The Massey Commission was appointed (Royal Commission on
National Development in the Arts, Letters and Sciences). Reported
1951. - CJCA-FM opened in Edmonton
Mar 31 Newfoundland became a Canadian province
Apr 1 Stations and staff of the Broadcasting Corporation of
Newfoundland became part of CBC. VONF became CBN in St. John's, VORG
became CBG in Gander, and VOWN became CBY (jokingly called Canada's
Back Yard) in Corner Brook
Jun 1 CKOY opened in Ottawa
Nov 20 CHFA opened in Edmonton, in French Alberta
1950 The first publication of the weekly program guide La Semaine `
Radio-Canada
Jan 1 CKY opened in Winnipeg, unrelated to the original station
Jul 1 CBC opened CBE in Windsor ON (the E signifying Essex County)
Oct 25 CJON opened in St. John's NF
1951 CBC opened CFWH in Whitehorse, Yukon -
The Massey Commission endorsed a regulatory role of CBC
1952 The CBC Symphony Orchestra was formed. (Disbanded 1964-5).
etc. etc.
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**E.S Rogers Sr.
Edward S. Rogers Sr. can be counted as one of the worlds most
important radio experimenters. His patented improvement to the
McCullough AC tube that eliminated AC hum was the break through that
launched the Rogers Batteryless radios.
Quickly realizing that to sell radios he required local broadcast
content was this decision that saw E.S. Rogers convert his 500 watt
Ham Station 3BP to the worlds first batteryless broadcasting station
9RB. Station 9RB remains on the air as radio station CFRB in Toronto,
short for
Canada's First Rogers Batteryless.
The new 1000 watt 9RB went on the air from Aurora in January of 1927 on a
frequency of 1030 kHz.
Daniel Say
throwing spam off to DanielSay@yahoo
Mack Furlong
Anyway, not only has your Vancouver show suffered, but all radio has. The
people that are left in the building, some of whom are intelligent,
knowledgeable, & etc., are doing three and four jobs each. They're baffed,
they haven't the energy to do what they once did. There is no depth to the
research now, just memory work. The regular commentators are cheaper,
younger, desperate, worse. Budgets are a thing of the past. Record spins,
phone-ins, phone-outs. Woe-is-uh-me-bop.
--
More later ...
Mack
pete <vin...@triumfunspam.ca> wrote in message
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shawnews
Our information programming in Winnipeg pinches pennies by having an
insufferable number of contexts. Contests can be fun, and a good way to
lighten the pace -- but...if I have to listen to another non-singer
attempting to sing a song, or worse most often, a jingle of their own
composition, so they can win some trinket with the CBC logo on it I'll
screamm....
It's almost as bad as having to listen to Rex Murphy cough his way through
Cross Country Checkup.
Or, when there's some big news story, they'll kill large chunks of the
program with people calling in to tell us what they think when, with a
little effort, they could get guests with some knowledge to comment.
It's clear that it's cheaper to fill time with phone-ins than with putting a
real public affairs show together.
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articulate when he's interviewing people.
At least he doesn't hack and clear his throat all the time like Rex
"Mumbles" Murphy.
I don't like the new DNTO hostess as much as the former one.
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I think Anne Petrie was ebtter on the radio than she has been on tv -- I
find she's too screechie at times. a problem that some of the women
announcers have in being able to modulate their voices. Trina Slobotniak
(not sure of spelling) is not bad on tv in the sense she's personable, but
unfortunately she screeches at times.
Then there's Barbara Budd and Rosemary (last name slips my mind) from As It
Happens, who both sound like they're life-long chain smokers. At least they
are usually articulate, although I suspect Budd's role calls primarily for
reading scripts -- and neither one of them clears their throats in our ears
like Rex "Maybe I've Got a Respiratory Problem" Murphy.
I wonder if there's anyone knowledgable about broadcast technique who
listens to this high paid talent, and who has the authority to coach them so
they can sound better?
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one wonder about objectivity when it comes to doing interviews, especially
on the news and public affairs shows.
"AC Morphy" <acmorphy@sh*wneighbourhood.ca> wrote in message
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[about Vancouver Afternoon Show]
Pete Vincent says:
> The Golden Age of the Afternoon Show was between about '76 -'82, when
> Patrick Munroe and Anne Petrie co-hosted. It was absolutely first
> class radio, intelligent, articulate, witty, whimsical, engaged and
> engaging. Two intelligent and knowledgeable people spinning off
> each other, backed by a formidable research staff and an admirable
> stable of regular commentators. But of course, in those days, there
> was a budget.
>
They were the first of the dreadful "lite show" now
incorporated by the shallow high-pitched twit
Katherine [of little brain]Gretzinger.
Intelligence died when Stan Peters left the afternoon beat
in Vancouver. That's when Bob Sharples was taken off
the morning pitbull show.
Maybe the "golden age" depends on how aged you were in
1976 and found CBC.
Daniel Say
who grew up with a radio on
intelligent stations in Vancouver
from birth.
dani...@yahoo.com
Perfect! Give up on local AM, and get your shortwave
antennas up and out. You'll get far more variety of
programming that can replace the Alex Framed CBC radio.
Daniel Say
who wonders why anyone could
complain about being in Winnipeg
William Denton
: It's interesting to compare the various on-air personalities at CBC radio
: and see what a range there is in quality and competence.
The shows might benefit if the listeners were never sure if perhaps the
host was a bit drunk. Alan McFee had his jellied gin, and everyone liked
him. I don't know about Gzowski, but he was puffing up a storm. There's
the Enright, not that he's a boozer: every time the Catholics are
mentioned, all ears perk up waiting for him to go on a tear. Uptight
clean-living people just aren't as much fun to listen too. Would Bernie
St. Laurent ever do anything exciting? I don't think so.
My prescription is more liquor and occasional drunken ramblings.
Bill
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William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector.
shawnews
half bad tolisten to.
I wouldn't mind more liquor and occasional drunken ramblings from Rex
"Mumbles" Murphy if he was articulate.
"William Denton" <buff-...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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Bobcat
>
> : It's interesting to compare the various on-air personalities at CBC
radio
> : and see what a range there is in quality and competence.
>
> The shows might benefit if the listeners were never sure if perhaps the
> host was a bit drunk. Alan McFee had his jellied gin, and everyone liked
> My prescription is more liquor and occasional drunken ramblings.
> Bill
I agree with your prescription, Bill, but I beg to differ with you on who
used to get into the jellied gin. It wasn't Alan, it was Mom Nifkins, one of
the characters he invented for his wildly imaginative CBC-FM disc show
Eclectic Circus. And we peasants out in vacuum-land just ate it up, (the
show, not the gin). :>)
escapego...@please.gmx.net
>Radio hosts now seem to be
>giving listeners more of their personal information than in the past.
Maybe it's the host rather than style: Andy Barrie was talking about his
family's pet skunk Palmolive back in the CJAD days.
-Tim
--
Laid summarily to burnination, along with the rest of her
'people' and the 'countryside' she loved so dearly.
escapego...@please.gmx.net
>I don't like the new DNTO hostess as much as the former one.
Speaking of "hip" ex-MM vjs...
http://www.ericaehm.com/welcome.asp
"The voice of her generation."
Ugh.
-Tim
--
Cross Country Roundup - with Rex Richarson. Call 1-800-Bereaved-Oryx
escapego...@please.gmx.net
>Jul 29 CBC opened CBK at Watrous, SK
If someone decides to change this station over FM, they need to be given a
shake. I don't know about recently, but when I was out there ten years ago,
you could pick up 540 in the daytime from at least 500km away!
http://watrous-sask.com/cbk.htm
Stephen LaRose
nights as far south as Tulsa, Oklahoma.
However, coverage in Regina's been a problem. About four years ago, the CBC
put up a new transmitter for the city, and 540 also broadcasts on 102.5 FM.
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"Stephen LaRose" <sbla...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> The signal has been picked up as far north as Flin Flon, and on some
clear
> nights as far south as Tulsa, Oklahoma.
>
> However, coverage in Regina's been a problem. About four years ago,
the CBC
> put up a new transmitter for the city, and 540 also broadcasts on
102.5 FM.
Oddly, there is only one spot in Saskatoon where I've ever had trouble
picking up 540. It's a one block stretch of 25th Street between 2nd
and 3rd Avenue. In the north of the province they have to use a
string of low power FM rebroadcasters to reach a lot of the northern
communities and they have a small studio based out of La Ronge.
Back in 1939 -- when 50,000 Watts clear channel meant that no one else
could push anywhere close to that much power on a frequency assigned
to a particular station or governments on both sides of the border
were going to come down heavy on you -- CBK had two major jobs.
First, it was meant to be _the_ CBC station for the Prairies, and
secondly it was going to ba a major propaganda voice for Canada and
the Empire to our reluctant friends to the south. Apparently it
didn't hurt.
--
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constraining, more blinding to innovation, more destructive of
openness to novelty. "
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escapego...@please.gmx.net
>The signal has been picked up as far north as Flin Flon, and on some clear
>nights as far south as Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Might have been 400 instead of 500 km actually (just checked on a map). I was
working up near La Ronge one summer, and it came in clear as a bell. I don't
remember the exact distance but it was one hell of a drive from Saskatoon! :)
Andrew Sullivan
<DrUoa.4703$945....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>), William Denton
<buff-...@pobox.com> wrote:
> My prescription is more liquor and occasional drunken ramblings.
Is this a general one, or for use exclusively by the CBC? I'm sorta
hoping the former.
Andrew "Bottoms up" Sullivan
Tranna
shawnews
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I was thinking of CBC -- but would be interested in hearing about other
substandard announcers.
RMS
Gary Weber
>
> I agree with your prescription, Bill, but I beg to differ with you on who
> used to get into the jellied gin. It wasn't Alan, it was Mom Nifkins, one of
> the characters he invented for his wildly imaginative CBC-FM disc show
> Eclectic Circus. And we peasants out in vacuum-land just ate it up, (the
> show, not the gin). :>)
Mah Nifkins was not invented. It was a nickname given to a woman who
worked with the CBC in Prince Rupert. If I recall correctly, she met
Allan at social gathering of CBC staff in Prince Rupert. She brought
her popular jellied gin which was sampled and enjoyed by Allan. She
provided him her recipe for and he always gave her correct credit when
making reference to it on air. She subsequently moved on in the world
and no longer works in radio. I new the real Mah Nifkins after she
changed careers. I also have her original recipe for the now famous
jellied gin. And yes, it is delightlful.
Gary Weber
Andrew Sullivan
<aadfe63b.03052...@posting.google.com>), Gary Weber
<gwe...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
> changed careers. I also have her original recipe for the now famous
> jellied gin. And yes, it is delightlful.
So, are you going to share it? Or is there a potential copyright
violation there which precludes the rest of us being so delighted?
Andrew "in a jam" Sullivan
Tranna
Gary Weber
> > changed careers. I also have her original recipe for the now famous
> > jellied gin. And yes, it is delightlful.
>
> So, are you going to share it? Or is there a potential copyright
> violation there which precludes the rest of us being so delighted?
>
> Andrew "in a jam" Sullivan
> Tranna
It was passed on in good faith and I don't think there is any
copyright. The recipe I have ends with the words "Enjoy a spoonful of
cheer and toast a great Canadian tradition", so I guess she meant it
to be shared.
Ma Nifkins Famous Jellied Gin
In a large bowl, mix well
2 packets unflavoured gelatin
3 Tablespoons sugar
Add and stir until the above mix is thoroughly dissolved
1 1/2 cups boiling water
Add
2-3 Tablesppons freshly squeezed lime juice
Cool to warm
Add and stir
1 1/4 - 1 1/2 cups gin
Place in mold
Decorate with lime slices
Chill at least 3 hours, depending on the fridge temperature.
Unmold. Serve. Stand back.
This does not keep well more than about 12 hours from when it is made.
The Gin pickles the lime slices and the jelly becomes bitter. If you
want to keep it overhight, try leaving out the lime slices and use
them to decorate the outside when you serve it.
When consuming Jellied Gin, you should pause, think about Alan McFee
and wonder if we will ever again be blessed with a radio show as
wonderful as Eclectic Circus.
Gary Weber
Bobcat
position to be in after generously sampling the jellied gin recipe you
thoughtfully provide us in a later post. I knew Alan, and I'm sure wherever
he is, he's very pleased that we're sharing this cybertoast to him! Gawd,
CBC Radio could use his kind today!
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> It's interesting to compare the various on-air personalities at CBC radio
> and see what a range there is in quality and competence.
>
> highly articulate and intelligent. Or Michael Enright who converses easily
>
> And then, on one of its formerly top public affairs programs, Cross Country
> Checkup, CBC allows Rex Murphy to cough and hack in our ears, and to
> punctuate his questions with throat clearing. Rex is an intelligent guy, but
> his on-air mannerisms hide it well. On CCC quality takes a nose dive. It
> wouldn't be so bad if the guy was articulate, or could resist the temptation
> to explain to us why he is asking a particular question.
>
> I am sure there are other examples of this high quality/low quality range.
> Why is it so hard for CBC to maintain quality? Is Canada that short of
> talent?