I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
And are they worth it?
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I believe Pamela Walin is no longer an employee of CBC (or Newsworld).
After her unfortunate (IMO) dismissal from the National she formed her own
independent Canadian company which Newsworld purchases. Therefore it is
unlikely you will be able to find out her salary. This was the reason for
the strike. The employee's did not want CBC to be able to contract out
shows to reduce costs and still maintain Canadian content.
: I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
: and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
: Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
: there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
: Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
I can't remember where (Frank?) but I have the impression Gzowski makes
about $300,000 a year. Mansbridge probably makes a lot, but it would be
peanuts compared to U.S. news anchors.
: And are they worth it?
Most of them, yeah.
Bill
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>I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
>and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
>Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
>there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
>Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
>And are they worth it?
i'm a TV tech and i make about $27,000 a year...
and yes, i'm worth it ;-)
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>I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
>and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
>Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
>there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
>Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
>
>And are they worth it?
I have no idea what they make. I am sure it is much less what the
tee vee people in the Excited States of America make and we have a
much superior product. For the most part, these people are far
better than those in the U.S. but they get paid much less.
Certainly, when the Ontario government revealed Steve Paiken's (TVO)
salary, I was shocked at how little it was compared with those in the
U.S.
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> Everything should be as simple as possible, but not simpler.
> - Albert Einstein
Mel Pelt (The PAEDAGOG) mp...@pelt.com
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>>I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
>>and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
>>Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
>>there, seven days a week?),
If you hear Shelagh on weekends, it's probably thanks to the magic of
audio tape
>>Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
>>Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc
The average CBC weekly radio host probably makes around $50,000,
depending on factors like seniority and experience, bargaining
ability, management's perceptions of his or her worth (on-air skills,
audience response - and size, ability to contribute positively to a
production team etc.)
(People who only host a weekly program are contracted for less than a
week's work and less than a week's pay.)
There's no set formula to get beyond the union minimum's, but
obviously, with even most local radio hosts now being contract, rather
than staff emplyees (i.e. no pension, hired for one to three years at
a time, usually), bargaining based on perceptions of individual worth
is usually the way hosts salaries go beyond the minimum.
In radio, my guess, and it is only that, is a few network "stars" can
make two or three times the average for a weekly host. But, given the
cutbacks, I would be surprised if any made more than that.
>>And are they worth it?
Well, each CBC manager and CBC listener has to decide that for her or
himself.
[By way of comparison, such U.S. radio "stars" as Howard Stern, Don
Imus and Rush Limbaugh make millions of dollars a year.
In Canada, Tony Parsons, long-time BCTV newscaster, is reputedly one
of the highest-paid hosts. I recall a story over a decade ago that
put his salary then at over 200 thousand a year. Presumably it would
be much higher now. As such, it would be in line with the average for
local tv hosts in large American cities, but still quite extravagent
for Canada.]
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Doris Johnston (ao...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
> and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
> Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
> there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
> Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
What is YOUR annual salary, Doris?
> And are they worth it?
Are YOU worth it?
Why should the salaries of CBC personalities be public knowledge
if you wish to maintain your own personal privacy on such issues?
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Colin R. Leech (ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Doris Johnston (ao...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
>> and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
>> Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
>> there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
>> Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
> What is YOUR annual salary, Doris?
>> And are they worth it?
>
> Are YOU worth it?
Don't be so silly ...
> Why should the salaries of CBC personalities be public knowledge
> if you wish to maintain your own personal privacy on such issues?
Personal privacy has nothing to do with the subject, for heaven's sake.
Government salaries has everything to do with the taxpayers' pocket book.
Salaries in private broadcasting is something else.
Doris Johnston (ao...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Colin R. Leech (ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>
>> Doris Johnston (ao...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>> I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
>>> and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
>>> Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
>>> there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
>>> Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
>
>> What is YOUR annual salary, Doris?
>
>>> And are they worth it?
>>
>> Are YOU worth it?
>
> Don't be so silly ...
>
>> Why should the salaries of CBC personalities be public knowledge
>> if you wish to maintain your own personal privacy on such issues?
>
> Personal privacy has nothing to do with the subject, for heaven's sake.
>
> Government salaries has everything to do with the taxpayers' pocket book.
> Salaries in private broadcasting is something else.
I'm not being silly. If CBC were a private corporation you would have no
access to such information at all. Since it is partially funded by
taxpayers, there should be _some_ right to know, but not unlimited.
I believe that for "normal" civil service jobs, there is a right for a
member of the public to know the salary _range_ available for a particular
position. Privacy of the individual dictates that the exact salary is
confidential information. Perhaps this is the best approach to take with
the CBC.
> ao...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Doris Johnston) wrote:
>
> >I, for one, would like to know the salaries the Canadian government (you
> >and I) pay out to certain CBC staff, i.e., Michael Enright, Shelagh
> >Rogers (does it change when she fills in for Peter Gzowski? ... why is she
> >there, seven days a week?), Pamela Wallin, Wendy Mesley, Hana Gartner, Peter
> >Mansbridge, Joe Schlesinger (ret.) and Knowlton Nash (ret.) etc.
> >
> >And are they worth it?
>
> I have no idea what they make. I am sure it is much less what the
> tee vee people in the Excited States of America make and we have a
> much superior product. For the most part, these people are far
> better than those in the U.S. but they get paid much less.
There is nothing in the US that could even come close to the quality of
the CBC radio. Period. CBC radio is witty, funny, weird, bent,
educating, interesting, stupid, brilliant and culturally real.
You can give me that over commercial %^$ any day.
The CBC radio network is a totally different entity from the CBC
television network. So I guess would mean that for a fraction of the
cost, we, in Canada get a much superior product and value.
BTW, I think Gzowski makes some such six digit figure (120k or so).
Jason
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>Government salaries has everything to do with the taxpayers' pocket book.
>Salaries in private broadcasting is something else.
Why? If I were a shareholder in a private broadcasting company or a
_perspective_ shareholder, would it not, if I follow your logic, to
public salaries of all the emloyees. For example, Peter Kent's salary
on Global or Valerie Pringle on CTV? Surely, then their salaries, and
for that matter, the executives of the private networks, should be
published.
Mel Pelt (The PAEDAGOG) mp...@pelt.com
"Sooner or later, Canadians are going to become Americans. Too
bad."--The Economist.